22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

[covenantee]

Yup - now you have tens of thousands of disjointed and perpetually-splintering sects that ALL teach different doctrines - yet ALL claim to have been "led" to this confusion by the Holy Spirit.

What a fine mess . .

They're not complaining. Quite the opposite.

They're cherishing liberation from the dark ages spiritual tyranny of the church of antichrist.

 

[BreadOfLife]

What about gross perverted behavior by countless tens of thousands of leaders?

What "gross perverted behavior" by "tens of thousands" of leaders are you talking about?

 

[BreadOfLife]

The redeemed born again Church is one body. There are different attributes and characteristics to each body, yet all are connected. We are one people. The big difference is: we can think for ourselves. We can let the Holy Spirit lead us into all truth. We do not need a Pope.

This is thwe WHOPPER of the day . . .

Some Protestant denominations believe in baptismal regeneration, while others do not.
Some believe in soul-sleep, while others do not.
Some believe in the total depravity of man, while others do not.
Some believe in the Holy Trinity, while others do not.
Some believe in doctrine of “once saved, always saved”, while others do not.
Some believe in a pre-tribulation “Rapture”, while others do not.
Some believe that only those who were predestined will make it to heaven, while others do not.
Some believe that some were predestined for hell, while others do not.
Some believe in a woman’s right to choose abortion, while others do not.
Some believe that practicing homosexuality is a sin, while others do not.
Most believe in contraception, while others do not – and the list goes on . . .

That's "unity"??
Christ's Church is a visible Body - not an "invisible" one.
A city on a hill that cannot be hidden (Matt. 5:14).

 

[BreadOfLife]

Roman Catholicism has many false doctrines

Purgatory, papal infallibility, Mary as Co-redemptor and mediator, indulgences, transubstantiation, just to mention a few

ALL Biblical.
NNNNEXT . . .

 

[Truther]

Can you tell me WHEN the Catholic Church was founded?
Please cite the document and the year.

If you can't give me that information - then you'll have to admit to everyone that you're talking out of your backside again . . .

Council of Nicea, approx 325 AD. Worse thing that Christendom ever faced.

Constantine ruled over it.

 

[BreadOfLife]

They're not complaining. Quite the opposite.

They're cherishing liberation from the dark ages spiritual tyranny of the church of antichrist.

There is never a complaint among the prideful and arrogant.
It's only in submission to God and His Church where they have a problem . . .

 

[Truther]

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

The Apostles are seen reigning in heaven over the 12 tribes or was Jesus exaggerating?

 

[Timtofly]

It is the Word that is your greatest enemy. You seem unable to exegete Scripture. All we have is your fly-by insults. The New Testament clearly and repeatedly shows that we (the Church of Jesus Christ throughout the world) are the true Jews, the true circumcision (Romans 2:25-29; Philippians 3:3 and Colossians 2:11) and the true Israel (Romans 11:17; 11:24-25 and Ephesians 2:10-19) and the true children of Abraham (Romans 4:11; 4:13-15; 4:16-18; 9:6-8; Galatians 3:7-9; 3:12-14; 3:16 and 3:26-29) today. We have been grafted in! Scripture makes clear that upon salvation we become citizens of the heavenly Jerusalem (true Jerusalem), which is also called Mount Zion (or God’s Sion). We see this in Matthew 21:42-46; John 3:3; Romans 9:33; 11:26; Ephesians 1:3; Ephesians 2:4-6; Philippians 3:20; Hebrews 12:22 and 1 Peter 2:5-10. These unambiguous, explicit and repeated Scriptures make that abundantly clear.

Not literally, only metaphorically.

You have stolen what is literal and replaced it with a metaphor. Not to get back to literal, but to replace reality with a different reality.

That is replacement theology.

 

[covenantee]

There is never a complaint among the prideful and arrogant.
It's only in submission to God and His Church where they have a problem . . .

There is no pride and arrogance which can ever begin to match that of the Roman church of antichrist. Scripture and history confirm it.

Thank God for the Reformation.

 

[Truth7t7]

Council of Nicea, approx 325 AD. Worse thing that Christendom ever faced.

Constantine ruled over it.

That's correct, Roman Emperor Constatine is the father of Roman Catholicism, he built St Peter's Cathedral, and he was the civil authority carrying out banishment of Christians at the request of his created State Church

The 325AD Council of Nicaea saw 1800 invitations given to bishops throughout the Roman Empire all expenses paid for travel and lodging, only 318 showed up to Constatines invitation, some put the number at 250

The Church on earth wanted nothing to do with Constatine or his newly created (State Church) that is now Roman Catholicism in lineage, with Vatican City sitting on the very same place Constatine originated, Nero's Circus of torture and death

Jesus Is The Lord

Wikipedia: St Peter's Basilica

History: The area now covered by the Vatican City had been a cemetery for some years before the Circus of Nero was built. It was a burial ground for the numerous executions in the Circus and contained many Christian burials

 

[covenantee]

Not literally, only metaphorically.

Scripturally.

That's all that matters.

 

[WPM]

This is thwe WHOPPER of the day . . .

Some Protestant denominations believe in baptismal regeneration, while others do not.
Some believe in soul-sleep, while others do not.
Some believe in the total depravity of man, while others do not.
Some believe in the Holy Trinity, while others do not.
Some believe in doctrine of “once saved, always saved”, while others do not.
Some believe in a pre-tribulation “Rapture”, while others do not.
Some believe that only those who were predestined will make it to heaven, while others do not.
Some believe that some were predestined for hell, while others do not.
Some believe in a woman’s right to choose abortion, while others do not.
Some believe that practicing homosexuality is a sin, while others do not.
Most believe in contraception, while others do not – and the list goes on . . .

That's "unity"??
Christ's Church is a visible Body - not an "invisible" one.
A city on a hill that cannot be hidden (Matt. 5:14).

You obviously have no concept what the Protestant born again Church is, but practicing and justifying homosexuality or murdering innocent babies is not part of the true Church. That relates to the dead duck liberal apostate churches and the Roman Church. It is they that practice that, cover up and promote that. Tens of thousands of pedophile priests are testimony to that.

 

[covenantee]

Roman Catholicism has many false doctrines

Purgatory, papal infallibility, Mary as Co-redemptor and mediator, indulgences, transubstantiation, just to mention a few

How could you have forgotten Jesuit futurism?

 

[WPM]

ALL Biblical.
NNNNEXT . . .

LOL. Really? Here we go again. More false claims but zero Scripture. Let's put it to the test and see if you run again:

Where in the Bible does it teach Purgatory occurs after death?
Where in the Bible does it teach papal infallibility?
Where in the Bible does it teach Mary as Co-redempter
Where in the Bible does it teach Mary as mediator?
Where in the Bible does it teach indulgences?
Where in the Bible does it teach transubstantiation?

 

[Truth7t7]

How could you have forgotten Jesuit futurism?

You mean Jesuit Preterism in (Luis De Alcasar)

 

[covenantee]

You mean Jesuit Preterism in (Luis De Alcasar)

Yes, you forgot that one too. You're really slipping.

 

[Christian Gedge]

This is thwe WHOPPER of the day . . .

Some Protestant denominations believe in baptismal regeneration, while others do not.
Some believe in soul-sleep, while others do not.
Some believe in the total depravity of man, while others do not.
Some believe in the Holy Trinity, while others do not.
Some believe in doctrine of “once saved, always saved”, while others do not.
Some believe in a pre-tribulation “Rapture”, while others do not.
Some believe that only those who were predestined will make it to heaven, while others do not.
Some believe that some were predestined for hell, while others do not.
Some believe in a woman’s right to choose abortion, while others do not.
Some believe that practicing homosexuality is a sin, while others do not.
Most believe in contraception, while others do not – and the list goes on . . .

That's "unity"??
Christ's Church is a visible Body - not an "invisible" one.
A city on a hill that cannot be hidden (Matt. 5:14).

Your list is unfair at best and dishonest at worst. The bulk of Protestant denominations adhere to the ‘Apostles Creed.’ Your list deliberately highlights minority views within mainstream Protestantism, and you toss in a few known false cults. Then you add things from unbelievers and use them to besmirch Protestants.

Not impressed.

 

[Truth7t7]

That's "unity"??
Christ's Church is a visible Body - not an "invisible" one.
A city on a hill that cannot be hidden (Matt. 5:14).

And that Church isn't Roman Catholicism

Vatican City Is Built Upon Graves Of Torture And Death, Where Nero's Circus Once Stood

Roman Emperor Constatine is the father of Roman Catholicism, he built St Peter's Cathedral, and he was the civil authority carrying out banishment of Christians at the request of his created State Church

The 325AD Council of Nicaea saw 1800 invitations given to bishops throughout the Roman Empire all expenses paid for travel and lodging, only 318 showed up to Constatines invitation, some put the number at 250

The Church on earth wanted nothing to do with Constatine or his newly created (State Church) that is now Roman Catholicism in lineage, with Vatican City sitting on the very same place Constatine originated, Nero's Circus of torture and death

Jesus Is The Lord

Wikipedia: St Peter's Basilica

History: The area now covered by the Vatican City had been a cemetery for some years before the Circus of Nero was built. It was a burial ground for the numerous executions in the Circus and contained many Christian burials

 

[WPM]

Your list is unfair at best and dishonest at worst. The bulk of Protestant denominations adhere to the ‘Apostles Creed.’ Your list deliberately highlights minority views within mainstream Protestantism, and you toss in a few known false cults. Then you add things from unbelievers and use them to besmirch Protestants.

Not impressed.

Totally true! Well put!

 

[WPM]

What "gross perverted behavior" by "tens of thousands" of leaders are you talking about?

Have you been living on another planet this past 30 years? Look how many Roman priests that have been exposed as pedophiles in recent years? This is gross institutional perversion. It is sick.