22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

[Spiritual Israelite]

"Little Season" is representative of when Satan a spirit being will be let free to perform God's will, it's relationship to "Thousand Years" isn't literal earthly time, it is one day is a thousand years time, (Not Literal)

Revelation 6:11KJV
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Below Is it one literal day or one thousand literal years?

(It's Neither) its symbolic speech communicating to the human mind that God doesn't have a clock at his throne, he is Alpha/Omega outside of time

Today the words would be one day is a Zillion Years (Not Literal Time)

You want to put this thousand years as having a literal beginning and end, "Wrong" it's symbolic figurative speech of one day is a thousand years

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

This is completely incomprehensible. You have a doctrine all your own.

 

[Truth7t7]

But Rev 20 describes real unfolding historic events. You are spiritualizing it all away like the Full Pretersist. One reality changes to another.

Scripture teaches "Satan a spirit being" is allowed by God to deceive the nations to gather to battle

Revelation 20:1-8 is in the spiritual realm, verse 9 sees the spiritual deception manifest itself in the literal earth realm, in gathering the earths kings to the camp of the saints

Revelation 20:7-9KJV
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The words (Thousand Years Expire) would be equivalent to the words (He who now letteth will let) is it speaking of a literal earthly thousand years "NO" its symbolic speech with the same meaning, a time when Satan is loosed in two different explanations

I have done my best to explain (Thousand Years) as being a figure of speech, one day is a thousand years (Not A Literal Thousand Years)

The Horse Is Dead

Revelation 20:7KJV
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

2 Thessalonians 2:6-8KJV
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

You have done a horrible job of explaining why it says Satan is loosed for a little season AFTER the thousand years expires if the thousand years represents eternity.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Scripture teaches "Satan a spirit being" is allowed by God to deceive the nations to gather to battle

Revelation 20:1-8 is in the spiritual realm, verse 9 sees the spiritual deception manifest itself in the literal earth realm, in gathering the earths kings to the camp of the saints

Revelation 20:7-9KJV
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

And that goes on for "a little season" of time, right? And it says this "little season" occurs AFTER the thousand years. But, you say the thousand years is eternity. So, you have the little season occurring after eternity? Your interpretation of Revelation 20 is completely messed up.

 

[Truth7t7]

This is completely incomprehensible. You have a doctrine all your own.

I would say the same of reformed preterist eschatology

(Thousand Years) = (Long Time In God's Spiritual)

 

[Truth7t7]

And that goes on for "a little season" of time, right? And it says this "little season" occurs AFTER the thousand years. But, you say the thousand years is eternity. So, you have the little season occurring after eternity? Your interpretation of Revelation 20 is completely messed up.

Stop bending and twisting

(Thousand Years) = (Long Time In God's Spiritual)

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I Disagree

The words (Thousand Years) does nothing more than represent God's spiritual realm of no literal time

This is just ridiculous.

Revelation 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

So, in your view, this is saying that Satan will be loosed AFTER no time goes by on earth. LOL. Total nonsense.

 

[Truth7t7]

This is just ridiculous.

Revelation 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

So, in your view, this is saying that Satan will be loosed AFTER no literal time. LOL. Total nonsense.

Satan will be loosed in God's timing, something you don't understand

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

 

[WPM]

Scripture teaches "Satan a spirit being" is allowed by God to deceive the nations to gather to battle

Revelation 20:1-8 is in the spiritual realm, verse 9 sees the spiritual deception manifest itself in the literal earth realm, in gathering the earths kings to the camp of the saints

Revelation 20:7-9KJV
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

When is Satan's little season?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Stop bending and twisting

(Thousand Years) = (Long Time In God's Spiritual)

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Stop ignoring the fact that it says a little season occurs AFTER the thousand years. Your view makes complete nonsense of that and everyone here knows it except you.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Satan will be loosed in God's timing, something you don't understand

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

It says that Satan will be loosed after the thousand years ends. This is undeniable.

Revelation 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Revelation 20:7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

How can an actual period of time on the earth, which Satan's little season undeniably is, occur after something that is outside of earthly time? Answer this question instead of just repeating your rhetoric again.

 

[Truth7t7]

When is Satan's little season?

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

 

[Truth7t7]

Stop ignoring the fact that it says a little season occurs AFTER the thousand years. Your view makes complete nonsense of that and everyone here knows it except you.

Both you and premillennialist want to make (Thousand Years) a literal time on this earth "Wrong"

Is it a literal day or a literal thousand years below, take your pick, smiles!

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Both you and premillennialist want to make (Thousand Years) a literal time on this earth "Wrong"

I don't believe it is a literal one thousand years and you know that. It figuratively represents the time period between the resurrection of Christ and the beginning of a little season just before Christ's return. Your view does not even allow for the possibility of Satan's little season to occur because it very specifically says he is loosed AFTER the thousand years ends. But, in your view, the thousand years never ends. Therefore, in your view, Satan's little season cannot happen.

Is it a literal day or a literal thousand years below, take your pick, smiles!

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

This verse has no direct relationship to Revelation 20.

 

[Truth7t7]

It says that Satan will be loosed after the thousand years ends. This is undeniable.

Revelation 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Revelation 20:7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

How can an actual period of time on the earth, which Satan's little season undeniably is, occur after something that is outside of earthly time? Answer this question instead of just repeating your rhetoric again.

Satan is bound for a (Thousand Years) by and Angel having a key to the bottomless pit?

Is that mentioned above in the spiritual or earthly realm?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12,

So, when you take that in combination with this:

Revelation 20:3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.

You acknowledge that Satan's little season is an actual period of time on earth and you say it starts when the sixth vial is poured out. Based on what it says in Revelation 20:3, this would mean that the thousand years ends when the sixth vial is poured out because it is AFTER the thousand years ends that Satan is loosed.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Satan is bound for a (Thousand Years) by and Angel having a key to the bottomless pit?

Is that mentioned above in the spiritual or earthly realm?

Don't answer questions with questions. Address my questions and then I'll address yours. That's how adult discussions work. Of course, I know you are very childish, so you may not understand this.

 

[Truth7t7]

I don't believe it is a literal one thousand years and you know that. It figuratively represents the time period between the resurrection of Christ and the beginning of a little season just before Christ's return. Your view does not even allow for the possibility of Satan's little season to occur because it very specifically says he is loosed AFTER the thousand years ends. But, in your view, the thousand years never ends. Therefore, in your view, Satan's little season cannot happen.


This verse has no direct relationship to Revelation 20.

No it doesn't represent a literal time between the resurrection and a little season,that is your private interpretation

(Thousand Years) is nothing more than an explanation of God's spiritual realm, where one day is a thousand years

Satan's (Thousand Years) of being locked up and expiring is in the (Spiritual Realm) where one day is a thousand years, "Be Not Ignorant"

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

No it doesn't represent a literal time between the resurrection and a little season,that is your private interpretation

LOL. My private interpretation that millions of other Amils agree with? You must have a strange definition of "private interpretation".

(Thousand Years) is nothing more than an explanation of God's spiritual realm, where one day is a thousand years

Satan's (Thousand Years) of being locked up and expiring is in the (Spiritual Realm) where one day is a thousand years, "Be Not Ignorant"

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

How does Satan's little season occur after the realm of timelessness?

Revelation 20:3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.

Revelation 20:7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison

These verses blow your nonsense out of the water and it's quite noticeable that you are unwilling to address what they say.

 

[Truth7t7]

So, when you take that in combination with this:

Revelation 20:3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.

You acknowledge that Satan's little season is an actual period of time on earth and you say it starts when the sixth vial is poured out. Based on what it says in Revelation 20:3, this would mean that the thousand years ends when the sixth vial is poured out because it is AFTER the thousand years ends that Satan is loosed.

There is a time in God's spiritual realm when Satan will be let loose to perform God's will in gathering the nations together, this is expressed in the words (Thousand Years Expire)

Yes Satan in the (Spiritual) through devils, will manifest his gathering the nation's together in this earthly realm (Little Season)