Only a redeemed person believes. Believing is the effect of Christs death for one.
The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?
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Sorry this has nothing to do with physical healing, its Salvation being spoken of.
ChristisGod
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Only a redeemed person is regenerated and then believes Gal 4:4-6
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Causes to Live by Faith and why ? 2
Heb 10:10
10 By the which will[will of God] we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
The Sanctification here spoken of as a result of the offering of Christ or Death, same thing, its according to the will of God
It guarantees, makes certain or sure that the following happens unto each one Christ died for Heb 10:16-18
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
This happens for sure #1 God will put His Laws into their hearts ! These are Spiritual Laws, #2 He will put them in their Minds !
That reverses what is said here Rom 8:7
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
By this He gives them a True Saving Knowledge of God and Christ Jn 17:3
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
#3 It makes certain their remission of sins and Gods non remembrance of them no more !
They shall receive a Knowledge of the same Lk 1:77
77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins
Which was accomplished by the Offering of the Body of Christ or His Death Heb 10:10 !
The Covenant Death of Christ effects all these things, as to confirm what Paul writes here Rom 8:32
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
How can God have given us Christ without also giving us Faith to live by Him by ! As it is written, The Just shall live by Faith Rom 1:17 !
Heb 10:10
10 By the which will[will of God] we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
The Sanctification here spoken of as a result of the offering of Christ or Death, same thing, its according to the will of God
It guarantees, makes certain or sure that the following happens unto each one Christ died for Heb 10:16-18
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
This happens for sure #1 God will put His Laws into their hearts ! These are Spiritual Laws, #2 He will put them in their Minds !
That reverses what is said here Rom 8:7
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
By this He gives them a True Saving Knowledge of God and Christ Jn 17:3
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
#3 It makes certain their remission of sins and Gods non remembrance of them no more !
They shall receive a Knowledge of the same Lk 1:77
77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins
Which was accomplished by the Offering of the Body of Christ or His Death Heb 10:10 !
The Covenant Death of Christ effects all these things, as to confirm what Paul writes here Rom 8:32
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
How can God have given us Christ without also giving us Faith to live by Him by ! As it is written, The Just shall live by Faith Rom 1:17 !
rebuilder 454
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Not according to the bible.
Belief comes BEFORE salvation.
Satan believes and can not be saved.
Your entire "belief" argument is outta whack and not bible doctrine
rebuilder 454
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Jesus entire earthly ministry was spirit, soul and body.
Your hope and quest is that baptist emasculation of Jesus entire ministry, heart, and purpose is performed in the false assertions you promote.
You have absolutely no hope of success by removing from God's covenant the word "healing".
Peter irrefutably declared that healing is part of the New Covenant.
it is declared eternally, and eternally canonized in heaven and earth what Peter said "by his stripes you were healed."
You can't change that.
only in your mind .
only with your colleagues.
and I don't understand why you have this Quest to dilute God's word.
I don't know what could be in your heart and what could be in your mind that would move you to change God's word to actually come against the Covenant that cost his son his life.
I don't know why you would come against the Covenant.
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It makes us dead to the Law and sin !
All for whom Christ died, by that death alone , have been made dead to the Law and sin ! Rom 7:4
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Now some may say that Paul here is referring to believers, and that is absolutely correct, he is speaking to believers because the Truth of what he is stating can only be true of believers, however it was just as true of believers before they became believers, for the Truth of the matter[being dead to the law] had nothing to do with their believing, except it was the foundation upon why they do and must believe.
Unbelievers whom Christ died for are dead to the Law as to its condemning power, for it cannot condemn them, and neither can sin be charged to them. All this is True, not because they believed, or repented, but because Christ has died for their sins against God's Law and Justice, they are 100% acquitted, and so they are dead to the Law, by the Body of Christ, which is to say His Death for them !
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All for whom Christ died, by that death alone , have been made dead to the Law and sin ! Rom 7:4
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Now some may say that Paul here is referring to believers, and that is absolutely correct, he is speaking to believers because the Truth of what he is stating can only be true of believers, however it was just as true of believers before they became believers, for the Truth of the matter[being dead to the law] had nothing to do with their believing, except it was the foundation upon why they do and must believe.
Unbelievers whom Christ died for are dead to the Law as to its condemning power, for it cannot condemn them, and neither can sin be charged to them. All this is True, not because they believed, or repented, but because Christ has died for their sins against God's Law and Justice, they are 100% acquitted, and so they are dead to the Law, by the Body of Christ, which is to say His Death for them !
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Belief is the result of salvation, its after the Saving Sanctifying work of the Spirit 2 Thess 213
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
It makes us dead to the Law and sin ! 2
Because of the accomplishment of the Body of Christ, that is to say His Death, all for whom who died, before they believe, repent, or obey in any capacity, and even while they are born sinners, disobedient, children of wrath by nature as others Eph 2:3, alienated from the life of God, and enemies in their minds by wicked works Col 1:21,notwithstanding , they are born in this world Dead to the Law of God ! How ? BY THE BODY OF CHRIST ! This is not my opinion, but true biblical fact Rom 7:4
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Now, God had a purpose for that. It was, so that they who are now dead to the Law of God, by Christ's death, it was in order that, or that it may result to the purpose of being married to another, which is Christ ! See before one can be Married to Christ conjugally and Lawfully, their legal husband must be dead, which in this case is the Law of God.
That word married in the original ginomai means:
I come into being, am born, become, come about, happen.
This is the New Birth language, being born again, to come into being, and that's how we become Married to Christ experimentally, by the New Birth, and that's the end result of being dead to the Law by the Body of Christ. Christ's death destroyed the condemning relationship that God's People had under the Law, so that they can legally start a New Fresh Life with their Husband Christ, a Life of Love and Fellowship. Thats why Paul wrote to the Corinthians 1 Cor 1:9
9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.
Thats the intimacy of the Marriage Relationship, Fellowship ! Its the greek word koinónia:
(lit: partnership) (a) contributory help, participation, (b) sharing in, communion, (c) spiritual fellowship, a fellowship in the spirit.
Thats what Marriage is, a Partnership !
Now, with this in Mind, its a must that everyone Christ died for comes into this Partnership with Christ experimentally, if not, it overthrows the purpose of God and the designed end result for Christ having died for them and ending their relationship with the Law ! And this can never be ! 25
Because of the accomplishment of the Body of Christ, that is to say His Death, all for whom who died, before they believe, repent, or obey in any capacity, and even while they are born sinners, disobedient, children of wrath by nature as others Eph 2:3, alienated from the life of God, and enemies in their minds by wicked works Col 1:21,notwithstanding , they are born in this world Dead to the Law of God ! How ? BY THE BODY OF CHRIST ! This is not my opinion, but true biblical fact Rom 7:4
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Now, God had a purpose for that. It was, so that they who are now dead to the Law of God, by Christ's death, it was in order that, or that it may result to the purpose of being married to another, which is Christ ! See before one can be Married to Christ conjugally and Lawfully, their legal husband must be dead, which in this case is the Law of God.
That word married in the original ginomai means:
I come into being, am born, become, come about, happen.
This is the New Birth language, being born again, to come into being, and that's how we become Married to Christ experimentally, by the New Birth, and that's the end result of being dead to the Law by the Body of Christ. Christ's death destroyed the condemning relationship that God's People had under the Law, so that they can legally start a New Fresh Life with their Husband Christ, a Life of Love and Fellowship. Thats why Paul wrote to the Corinthians 1 Cor 1:9
9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.
Thats the intimacy of the Marriage Relationship, Fellowship ! Its the greek word koinónia:
(lit: partnership) (a) contributory help, participation, (b) sharing in, communion, (c) spiritual fellowship, a fellowship in the spirit.
Thats what Marriage is, a Partnership !
Now, with this in Mind, its a must that everyone Christ died for comes into this Partnership with Christ experimentally, if not, it overthrows the purpose of God and the designed end result for Christ having died for them and ending their relationship with the Law ! And this can never be ! 25
Ensures Spiritual Blessing to Seed of Abraham !
Understand this, Christ's death on the Cross was to ensure the Spiritual Blessings Eph 1:3-4 upon Abraham's Seed amongst the Gentiles Gal 3:13-15
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
Now notice, the Gentiles were to partake of the Blessings of Abraham, receive of the Spirit, according to God's Covenant to Abraham Gal 3:14,16,17 !
His death therefore in fact ensures us that He redeemed from the curse of the Law Vs 13 [both jew and gentile] by the Body of Christ or His Death, ensures that all should be Married to Another Rom 7:4, even to Him that was raised from the dead. Now all for whom by His death have been redeemed from the curse of the Law, do receive the Promise of the Spirit, which makes manifest that they are of Abraham's Seed, and the Spirit communicates in them all needed Spiritual Blessings to do the Will of God as Per Heb 13:20-21
20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ[by His Spirit]; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. 25
Understand this, Christ's death on the Cross was to ensure the Spiritual Blessings Eph 1:3-4 upon Abraham's Seed amongst the Gentiles Gal 3:13-15
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
Now notice, the Gentiles were to partake of the Blessings of Abraham, receive of the Spirit, according to God's Covenant to Abraham Gal 3:14,16,17 !
His death therefore in fact ensures us that He redeemed from the curse of the Law Vs 13 [both jew and gentile] by the Body of Christ or His Death, ensures that all should be Married to Another Rom 7:4, even to Him that was raised from the dead. Now all for whom by His death have been redeemed from the curse of the Law, do receive the Promise of the Spirit, which makes manifest that they are of Abraham's Seed, and the Spirit communicates in them all needed Spiritual Blessings to do the Will of God as Per Heb 13:20-21
20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ[by His Spirit]; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. 25
Delivered first, then serve !
Lk 1:74
74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.
This is yet an accomplishment of the death of Christ for all whom He died, jew and or Gentile, that by His death alone they are delivered from all their spiritual enemies, that they may serve God !
That word delivered in Vs 74 is the greek word rhyomai and means:
I.
to draw to one's self, to rescue, to deliver
II.
the deliverer
It also means to be saved "[that] without fear out of [the] hand of our enemies having been saved to serve him"
When Christ's says that He will draw all to Himself in Jn 12:32
32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
Then He is saying that because of His Death or being lifted up, He will rescue / deliver/ save all men to Himself. To serve Him !
So to be drawn by Christ is to be delivered , rescued, saved from all enemies, especially spiritual enemies, such as spiritual death and unbelief, and the devil, and the flesh, all the enemies of the soul that prevent one from serving God in Faith, in Holiness and Righteousness all the days of their lives !
Its the same word and the same thing Paul writes of here to the Colossian Church Col 1:13
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
You see, that's an spiritual enemy, the power of darkness ! We must be rescued from that Power before we can serve. The word serve in Lk 1:74
is the greek word latreuō:
I.
to serve for hire
II.
to serve, minister to, either to the gods or men and used alike of slaves and freemen
A.
in the NT, to render religious service or homage, to worship
B.
to perform sacred services, to offer gifts, to worship God in the observance of the rites instituted for his worship
i.
of priests, to officiate, to discharge the sacred office
We are by Christ's delivering death, enabled to serve and worship God as described here Jn 4:23-24
23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
After being delivered, then we offer up spiritual sacrifices unto God through Jesus Christ 1 Pet 2:5
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
By His death alone we are made Sovereignly Priests unto Our God, for that's how we offer spiritual sacrifices, again 1 Pet 2:5
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
We became this not by our will, but by the Blood of Christ, which says so here Rev 1:5-6
5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
But before we can serve as such, we must first be delivered/rescued from our enemies Lk 1:74
74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
False religion says their freewill delivered them to first serve God, then God saves them, they put duty before deliverance, whereas deliverance is before duty ! We do duty not to get delivered, but because we are delivered we do duty, such as Faith and Repentance !
Gal 1:4-5
4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver/rescue us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Another spiritual enemies, the world ! Paul says by Christ giving His Life for Our sins, it was for the Purpose of effecting deliverance, according tothe Will of God !
In fact, Paul here is saying the very same thing Zacharias stated here Lk 1:74
74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
The world is our enemie James 4:4
4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
And guess what ? We are all by nature, in friendship with the world, we cannot help but be Eph 2:2-3
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Thank God that through Jesus Christ, all for whom He died have been delivered from the world, to serve God in Holiness and Righteousness all the days of their Life !
Lk 1:74
74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.
This is yet an accomplishment of the death of Christ for all whom He died, jew and or Gentile, that by His death alone they are delivered from all their spiritual enemies, that they may serve God !
That word delivered in Vs 74 is the greek word rhyomai and means:
I.
to draw to one's self, to rescue, to deliver
II.
the deliverer
It also means to be saved "[that] without fear out of [the] hand of our enemies having been saved to serve him"
When Christ's says that He will draw all to Himself in Jn 12:32
32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
Then He is saying that because of His Death or being lifted up, He will rescue / deliver/ save all men to Himself. To serve Him !
So to be drawn by Christ is to be delivered , rescued, saved from all enemies, especially spiritual enemies, such as spiritual death and unbelief, and the devil, and the flesh, all the enemies of the soul that prevent one from serving God in Faith, in Holiness and Righteousness all the days of their lives !
Its the same word and the same thing Paul writes of here to the Colossian Church Col 1:13
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
You see, that's an spiritual enemy, the power of darkness ! We must be rescued from that Power before we can serve. The word serve in Lk 1:74
is the greek word latreuō:
I.
to serve for hire
II.
to serve, minister to, either to the gods or men and used alike of slaves and freemen
A.
in the NT, to render religious service or homage, to worship
B.
to perform sacred services, to offer gifts, to worship God in the observance of the rites instituted for his worship
i.
of priests, to officiate, to discharge the sacred office
We are by Christ's delivering death, enabled to serve and worship God as described here Jn 4:23-24
23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
After being delivered, then we offer up spiritual sacrifices unto God through Jesus Christ 1 Pet 2:5
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
By His death alone we are made Sovereignly Priests unto Our God, for that's how we offer spiritual sacrifices, again 1 Pet 2:5
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
We became this not by our will, but by the Blood of Christ, which says so here Rev 1:5-6
5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
But before we can serve as such, we must first be delivered/rescued from our enemies Lk 1:74
74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
False religion says their freewill delivered them to first serve God, then God saves them, they put duty before deliverance, whereas deliverance is before duty ! We do duty not to get delivered, but because we are delivered we do duty, such as Faith and Repentance !
Gal 1:4-5
4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver/rescue us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Another spiritual enemies, the world ! Paul says by Christ giving His Life for Our sins, it was for the Purpose of effecting deliverance, according tothe Will of God !
In fact, Paul here is saying the very same thing Zacharias stated here Lk 1:74
74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
The world is our enemie James 4:4
4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
And guess what ? We are all by nature, in friendship with the world, we cannot help but be Eph 2:2-3
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Thank God that through Jesus Christ, all for whom He died have been delivered from the world, to serve God in Holiness and Righteousness all the days of their Life !
Raised because of our Justification !
If Christ's death alone did not fully Justify from all sin and guilt and penalty, all for whom He died, all for whom sins that had been laid to His charge, had they not been really and truly vindicated, then He himself could not have been risen from the dead, and He and they He died for would be still in their sins, the point of 1 Cor 15:17
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
Meaning their sins must still be charged against them against God's Law and Justice !
If Christ had not risen, not only us, but He also would have perished for our sins, again Paul's point of 1 Cor 15:12-18 !
But in that He was indeed raised, it means that that He and all those whose sins which had been charged to Him, have been Justified, Vindicated from all sin, and this fact is what is caused to be received from the Gospel revelation to them 1 Cor 15:3-4;Rom 1:16-17 !
Now if Christ Christ was freed from our sins imputed to Him, MUCH MORE, were all those freed from sin for whom He died Rom 6:7
7 For he that is dead[with Christ] is freed from sin.
The word freed here is the greek word dikaioō:
I.
to render righteous or such he ought to be
II.
to show, exhibit, evince, one to be righteous, such as he is and wishes himself to be considered
III.
to declare, pronounce, one to be just, righteous, or such as he ought to be
This is really saying, those who Christ died for, so they died in Him, when He died, consequently they are Justified from all sin, they are declared Righteous !
As Long as Christ raised from the dead, all for whom He died are declared Righteous before God, and freed from all sin believer or not, the condition is simply Christ having died for them ! 25
If Christ's death alone did not fully Justify from all sin and guilt and penalty, all for whom He died, all for whom sins that had been laid to His charge, had they not been really and truly vindicated, then He himself could not have been risen from the dead, and He and they He died for would be still in their sins, the point of 1 Cor 15:17
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
Meaning their sins must still be charged against them against God's Law and Justice !
If Christ had not risen, not only us, but He also would have perished for our sins, again Paul's point of 1 Cor 15:12-18 !
But in that He was indeed raised, it means that that He and all those whose sins which had been charged to Him, have been Justified, Vindicated from all sin, and this fact is what is caused to be received from the Gospel revelation to them 1 Cor 15:3-4;Rom 1:16-17 !
Now if Christ Christ was freed from our sins imputed to Him, MUCH MORE, were all those freed from sin for whom He died Rom 6:7
7 For he that is dead[with Christ] is freed from sin.
The word freed here is the greek word dikaioō:
I.
to render righteous or such he ought to be
II.
to show, exhibit, evince, one to be righteous, such as he is and wishes himself to be considered
III.
to declare, pronounce, one to be just, righteous, or such as he ought to be
This is really saying, those who Christ died for, so they died in Him, when He died, consequently they are Justified from all sin, they are declared Righteous !
As Long as Christ raised from the dead, all for whom He died are declared Righteous before God, and freed from all sin believer or not, the condition is simply Christ having died for them ! 25
As living stones !
1 Pet 2:5
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
All for whom Christ died, He as a Living Stone Vs 4
4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
He makes all for whom He died, and whom He is the Head of, He makes them Living stones, for He gives them [His Body] Life 1 Cor 15:45
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam[The Living Stone of 1 Pet 2:4] was made a quickening spirit.
That word quickening means to give life, so He becomes a Life giving Spirit. Now by this they become experimentally meet for building material to build His Church Matt 16:18
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Zech 6:12-13
And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The Branch; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord:
Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.
Building a Spiritual House 1 Pet 2:5
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
Christ building His Church/Temple also as seen fufills prophecy Zech 6:12-13, now to do this He must make them alive, make them Living stones, this He does by quickening them to Life 1 Cor 15:45.
Now notice, the Believer is coming to Christ 1 Pet 2:4 as in being drawn to Him the Living stone, so their coming to Him are as Living stones 1 Pet 2:4-5
4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
Their coming to Christ as Lively stones is to be built up into a Spiritual House ! The important point here is that they had to be first made Living stones to come to the Living Stone, for He does not use dead material !
The word for coming in Vs 4 is the greek word proserchomai and means:
I.
to come to, approach
II.
draw near to
III.
to assent to
It also means :
to attach oneself to Christ, to come to a participation in the benefits procured by him.
To assent means:
to agree or concur; subscribe to , acquiescence; compliance.
Thats actually what confessing is, to agree or to say the same thing ,I.to say the same thing as another, i.e. to agree with, assent
All this has been accomplished and effected by the Death of Christ !
1 Pet 2:5
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
All for whom Christ died, He as a Living Stone Vs 4
4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
He makes all for whom He died, and whom He is the Head of, He makes them Living stones, for He gives them [His Body] Life 1 Cor 15:45
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam[The Living Stone of 1 Pet 2:4] was made a quickening spirit.
That word quickening means to give life, so He becomes a Life giving Spirit. Now by this they become experimentally meet for building material to build His Church Matt 16:18
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Zech 6:12-13
And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The Branch; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord:
Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.
Building a Spiritual House 1 Pet 2:5
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
Christ building His Church/Temple also as seen fufills prophecy Zech 6:12-13, now to do this He must make them alive, make them Living stones, this He does by quickening them to Life 1 Cor 15:45.
Now notice, the Believer is coming to Christ 1 Pet 2:4 as in being drawn to Him the Living stone, so their coming to Him are as Living stones 1 Pet 2:4-5
4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
Their coming to Christ as Lively stones is to be built up into a Spiritual House ! The important point here is that they had to be first made Living stones to come to the Living Stone, for He does not use dead material !
The word for coming in Vs 4 is the greek word proserchomai and means:
I.
to come to, approach
II.
draw near to
III.
to assent to
It also means :
to attach oneself to Christ, to come to a participation in the benefits procured by him.
To assent means:
to agree or concur; subscribe to , acquiescence; compliance.
Thats actually what confessing is, to agree or to say the same thing ,I.to say the same thing as another, i.e. to agree with, assent
All this has been accomplished and effected by the Death of Christ !
That we should live unto Christ that died for Us !
2 Cor 5:15
15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
One of the unfailing Purposes of God in the Death of Christ, it is that all for whom He died [The Elect] shall henceforth not live unto themselves, but to Live unto Him which died for them, and rose again ! So the result of Christ's Death in the Purpose of God is to reverse the plight of God's People of what happened in adam here Isa 53:6
6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
The Elect of God, His sheep went astray in adam and turned to living unto ourselves, are own way, but Christ's death puts an end to that by bringing us back to God 1 Pet 3:18
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
Or that He might return us back to the Bishop of our souls 1 Pet 2:24-25
24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
25 For ye were as sheep going astray[went our own way, live unto ourselves]; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.
The word returned is the greek word epestraphēte :
(a) trans: I turn (back) to (towards), (b) intrans: I turn (back) (to [towards]); I come to myself.
To cause to return, to bring back. Its actually what we saw in the prodigal son when we read Lk 15:17-18
17 And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!
18 I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,
he is being returned passive and he is now active in it, conversion. The word epestraphēte also is in the aorist indicative passive, which means he is being returned, which can also be the middle voice because he is being made to cooperate actively, for man is active in his repentance once it is given by God !
Christ's death effects a conversion, return back to God, even God in Christ ! 26
2 Cor 5:15
15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
One of the unfailing Purposes of God in the Death of Christ, it is that all for whom He died [The Elect] shall henceforth not live unto themselves, but to Live unto Him which died for them, and rose again ! So the result of Christ's Death in the Purpose of God is to reverse the plight of God's People of what happened in adam here Isa 53:6
6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
The Elect of God, His sheep went astray in adam and turned to living unto ourselves, are own way, but Christ's death puts an end to that by bringing us back to God 1 Pet 3:18
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
Or that He might return us back to the Bishop of our souls 1 Pet 2:24-25
24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
25 For ye were as sheep going astray[went our own way, live unto ourselves]; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.
The word returned is the greek word epestraphēte :
(a) trans: I turn (back) to (towards), (b) intrans: I turn (back) (to [towards]); I come to myself.
To cause to return, to bring back. Its actually what we saw in the prodigal son when we read Lk 15:17-18
17 And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!
18 I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,
he is being returned passive and he is now active in it, conversion. The word epestraphēte also is in the aorist indicative passive, which means he is being returned, which can also be the middle voice because he is being made to cooperate actively, for man is active in his repentance once it is given by God !
Christ's death effects a conversion, return back to God, even God in Christ ! 26
rebuilder 454
Well-Known Member
The Jailer says .."what must I do to be saved".
Paul says ,"believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved."
You say ,"don't believe, it's impossible, just do something like an abstract born again and after that you will believe"
Changes nothing, Faith/Believing follows and is resultive of the Sanctifying work of the Spirit 2 Thess 2:13
But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth
That we should live unto Christ that died for Us ! 2
2 Cor 5:15
15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
Now exactly who are the "they which live " here ? Why its the all that He died for and rose again !
When Christ rose again from dying for those He died for, not only did He Live, but they Lived with Him, being in Union with Him as their Head !
Now this blessed Truth was indicated from the OT in this here word Isa 26:19
Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
Those Christ died for is His Body the Church, so when He Lived, His Dead Body Lived together with Him.
Paul says it here as well Eph 2:6
6 And hath raised us[His Dead Body] up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Peter states the same purpose to live as a result of Christ's death for us here 1 Pet 2:24
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
Just as in 2 Cor 5:15
15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
Peter also uses the conjunction hina which means for this purpose, God's intended result, So God's Purpose for the Death of Christ and what the results will be are here revealed !
Understand this, if you and i Preach that anyone for whom Christ died, does not end up as a result of it, Living unto God and Christ that died for him, Living a Life of Faith in Christ, then we are basically saying that Christ's Death failed God's intended Purpose ! Is that how you think today ? If so, woe unto you, you are against Christ ! 26
2 Cor 5:15
15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
Now exactly who are the "they which live " here ? Why its the all that He died for and rose again !
When Christ rose again from dying for those He died for, not only did He Live, but they Lived with Him, being in Union with Him as their Head !
Now this blessed Truth was indicated from the OT in this here word Isa 26:19
Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
Those Christ died for is His Body the Church, so when He Lived, His Dead Body Lived together with Him.
Paul says it here as well Eph 2:6
6 And hath raised us[His Dead Body] up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Peter states the same purpose to live as a result of Christ's death for us here 1 Pet 2:24
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
Just as in 2 Cor 5:15
15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
Peter also uses the conjunction hina which means for this purpose, God's intended result, So God's Purpose for the Death of Christ and what the results will be are here revealed !
Understand this, if you and i Preach that anyone for whom Christ died, does not end up as a result of it, Living unto God and Christ that died for him, Living a Life of Faith in Christ, then we are basically saying that Christ's Death failed God's intended Purpose ! Is that how you think today ? If so, woe unto you, you are against Christ ! 26
rebuilder 454
Well-Known Member
It should change your non biblical beliefs.
The bible says belief then salvation
You say no.
But don't let truth stop you.
Truth doesnt change. Faith/Belief of the Truth is resultive of the Sanctifying work of the Spirit 2 Thess 2:13
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
And the Spirit Sanctified all for whom the Father chose in Christ and Christ died and redeemed.
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