Limited atonement !

[brightfame52]

The Book of Life was written before the foundation of the world; therefore, God foreknew whose names would be written in it.

Revations 13:8 - All who dwell on the earth will worship him (the dragon), whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

He foreknew them because He put them in the Book

 

[Runningman]

Mark 9:23 - Jesus said to him, “If" you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes.”

Yes, but Jesus' power is conditional on belief. So it's still possible a sheep can be lost and never recovered due to a lack of belief (apostasy)

Matthew 13
58And He did not do many miracles there, because of their unbelief.

 

[Runningman]

Aint no if as in there is a possibility He wont find it, that's blasphemous to even to suggest. Do you think God didn't know where Adam was when He asked him Gen 3:9

9 And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

You accuse Jesus of blasphemy because his teachings are not compatible with your religion?

 

[Runningman]

Limited atonement cant be proven to you right now because you are blinded to the truth

No you're blinded to the truth. You couldn't quote a single verse or passage about limited atonement if your life depended on it.

 

[Runningman]

@Runningman



Are you sure you not misquoting that verse ? Where does it say "if He finds it ?" Lk 15:4

4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?

Matthew 18
12What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep and one of them goes astray, will he not leave the ninety-nine on the hills and go out to search for the one that is lost? 13And if he finds it, truly I tell you, he rejoices more over that one sheep than over the ninety-nine that did not go astray. 14In the same way, your Father in heaven is not willing that any of these little ones should perish.

 

[Runningman]

...they do not say, "if he finds it."

It's right here:

Matthew 18
12What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep and one of them goes astray, will he not leave the ninety-nine on the hills and go out to search for the one that is lost? 13And if he finds it, truly I tell you, he rejoices more over that one sheep than over the ninety-nine that did not go astray. 14In the same way, your Father in heaven is not willing that any of these little ones should perish.

 

[Lizbeth]

Where they saved or ever saved when Jesus said He never knew them ? Yes or no

Many are taking certain things too literally and not understanding they are based on God's foreknowledge, and that though He foreknows all outcomes, He doesn't judge or declare what anyone is until the end, when they have "proven" to be what He foreknew they would be. Bible calls it the proving of our faith, if we indeed are in Him and remain in Him until the end. In the meantime everyone has the opportunity to prove themselves faithful or prove themselves otherwise. Even a false brethren or tare has the opportunity to be changed from what they are, and thankfully some are changed by the grace of God.. And vice versa, some start out well but become false. These are the reasons why Jesus gave us all those warnings, which when heeded, will either help keep us on the right path or get those onto it who aren't. We need to rightly divide the scriptures, by the Holy Spirit.

 

[amigo de christo]

Hello @brightframe52

If condemnation came upon ALL men because of Adam, how then can atonement be limited to "some men"?

Romans 5:18
“Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.”

Here is a real simple Truth about predestination .
GOD pre determined That JESUS the CHRIST WOULD BE THE SAVOIR OF THE WORLD
and that all who do beleive would not perish but have everlasting life .
All who deny HIM will be denied .
For GOD chose by PREACHING to save those WHO DO BELEIVE . that is very simple .
And its the TRUTH that must be sounded out .
TO the trenches one and to the trenches all .

 

[amigo de christo]

Many are taking certain things too literally and not understanding they are based on God's foreknowledge, and that though He foreknows all outcomes, He doesn't judge or declare what anyone is until the end, when they have "proven" to be what He foreknew they would be. Bible calls it the proving of our faith, if we indeed are in Him and remain in Him until the end. In the meantime everyone has the opportunity to prove themselves faithful or prove themselves otherwise. Even a false brethren or tare has the opportunity to be changed from what they are, and thankfully some are changed by the grace of God.. And vice versa, some start out well but become false. These are the reasons why Jesus gave us all those warnings, which when heeded, will either help keep us on the right path or get those onto it who aren't. We need to rightly divide the scriptures, by the Holy Spirit.

For it pleased the FATHER by preaching to SAVE Those WHO DO beleive .
NOW paul wrote that .
Yes indeed dear sister .
This brother has summed it up real easy for all to see .
WHAT GOD pre determined was
THAT JESUS WOULD BE THE SAVOIR of THE WORLD
and that all who do beleive in HIM would not PERISH but have everlasting life .
Those who reject HIM , WILL DIE IN THEIR SINS . for if one beleives NOT that JESUS IS THE CHRIST
oh they gonna DIE IN THEIR SINS . JUST like JESUS said they would . CONDEMNED , just like JESUS said they would .