Limited atonement is a false gospel

[Ritajanice]

I would ask you, what is Spirit saying to you in this relationship?

Get out of it, which I did and pray that she comes to know me in her heart...God that is...that’s what I believe the Living Spirit was telling me to do.....there was no life in her spirit..she was dead in spirit imo.......just a load of religious talk...anyway, since leaving that friendship.i am at peace within my heart.

The great truth is that the Spirit doesn't have to inform you of what He is going to do in this situation. He will just go about God's business and get it done. This we can be sure of.

I pray for her that she comes to know the Living Spirit Of God in her heart...

 

[Rockerduck]

I would ask you, what is Spirit saying to you in this relationship?

The great truth is that the Spirit doesn't have to inform you of what He is going to do in this situation. He will just go about God's business and get it done. This we can be sure of.

I will answer for me, the Holy Spirit is with me all the time, if you hit my Jesus button (figuratively), watch out, I will start Praising the name of Jesus. When I start preaching, I'm in the Spirit, and the Holy Spirit puts words in my mouth, and scripture is recalled as I preach. Some preachers write sermons, not me. A lot of people are attracted to my energy and excitement.

 

[Ritajanice]

I've known churches full of people like that. They can read the bible and apply it, but talk about the Living Word of God, walk by faith, walking in the Spirit, I get questions, and I show them in the bible, but they still don't understand. As you have found out, it hard to describe the Power of the Holy Spirit that lives in you and makes you alive. I got out of my car once in a parking lot, and I saw a fish on a car that just pulled up. She got out and I said I saw the fish on the back. I started praising Jesus. She just looked at me.

We’re on fire for God and I too can’t understand those who aren’t...I’ve met many like that also in churches...

I hope she was thinking, I wish I was that excited.

To be honest...I think she is still in the natural man, that’s why she didn’t understand....I pray that she comes to know God in her heart...

 

[Ritajanice]

I will answer for me, the Holy Spirit is with me all the time, if you hit my Jesus button (figuratively), watch out, I will start Praising the name of Jesus. When I start preaching, I'm in the Spirit, and the Holy Spirit puts words in my mouth, and scripture is recalled as I preach. Some preachers write sermons, not me. A lot of people are attracted to my energy and excitement.

I’ve been praising God/ Jesus today at the hairdressers.......I couldn’t help it, I saw my opportunity and seized it...LOL......planting that seed...praying that it takes root and grows.......we had a good talk about JWS as well, my hairdresser used to work with one...

 

[Lizbeth]

I've never used those 2 words together that's all. And I'm guessing you are using it as a metaphor. But for what?

Yes, it's a metaphor. Childhood is typically a time of "ignorant bliss" and I sometimes do miss it, and wish I could visit it again. As we grow and mature we start to realize and also shoulder the harder truths and responsibilities of life. Which brings more "sorrow" because of seeing things more as they really are, as we discard the pleasant illusions and rosier coloured glasses of childhood.

Heb 5:11-14

Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.

For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

So how do you see this scripture? I see the milk as being all the positive things and wonderful promises of scripture....they are so easy to take, all sunshine and roses so to speak. But the meat of the word are the things in the word that are harder to take and digest, but they are necessary if we are to grow stronger and mature. In places the milk and the meat may seem contradictory but that is only if we aren't rightly dividing the word of truth.

Little babies and toddlers know nothing of the dangers and vulnerabilities of life, and they typically see their Dad as a jovial funny guy who is a lot of fun to be with. They know nothing yet of the dangers, toils and snares that lurk outside the playpen...and they have not yet experienced their Father's discipline, nor do they know that Dad runs a big business and has the power/authority to both hire as well as fire who He wishes. More than that of course, He is a Great King who has power of life and death.

The bible says to whom does He teach wisdom and understanding....to them who are weaned from the milk.....and Solomon wrote that with more wisdom comes more sorrow. Anyone who is an adult knows that adults are not as carefree and happy-go-lucky as we typically were when we were children. No, we are more serious and care-ful, and wiser to the under-belly of life in this world.

 

[Lizbeth]

Satan masquerades as an angel of light to those who are not saved and don't know better. The Born again from above know Jesus and knows His voice and cannot be fooled, by a fake. By the way, the devil has spoken to me. I know his voice too. I can't be fooled.

Oh dear. Doesn't the bible say to take heed who thinks he stands, lest he fall....? He is talking to the church, not to the unsaved.

We need to grow and learn and see and experience life in order to learn to discern and spot counterfeits.......each one has their own measure of grace and faith in the beginning but discernment typically doesn't come automatically. Those who are not matured in the faith are most vulnerable....they are most easily blown around by every wind of doctrine. It is a time of instability:

Eph 4:14

That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

 

[TLHKAJ]

I’ve been praising God/ Jesus today at the hairdressers.......I couldn’t help it, I saw my opportunity and seized it...LOL......planting that seed...praying that it takes root and grows.......we had a good talk about JWS as well, my hairdresser used to work with one...

Can you share what you mean by planting seed?

 

[Ritajanice]

Can you share what you mean by planting seed?

I meant sowing....I was talking to my hairdresser all about my Living faith in the Living God..he was all ears..they pricked up I noticed, when I started talking....so as I was talking I was sowing that Almighty God is Alive ,powerful and a Living Spirit..".it got him thinking...God could well be drawing him to Jesus...
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It started off with me bringing up Joe who used to colour my hair , she is a JW, my hairdresser Ian used to work with Joe and was telling me some stories of what she believed etc,etc....that’s when I seized my chance...to spread the word that Jesus is Alive...who knows what he will get from that....he’s very open minded...he’s a searcher of self..if you know what that means...I too used to do a lot of searching within myself, before I became Born Again...

I have tried to talk to Ian before about God, he wasn’t interested, so I didn’t force..this time he was open to it..,I’ve noticed him opening up more and more over the years...he’s been doing my hair for years..

 

[Rockerduck]

Can you share what you mean by planting seed?

I can share what it means. Anytime you say the name Jesus in a public place, it makes unsaved people think. They think kook, Jesus freak, or my mom was a Christian and talked like that, or just maybe, why did that bother me. That is planting a seed. Someone else waters, like reading an article about Jesus in a magazine, or preacher on TV. Then it is God that does the Harvesting, by drawing that person who received the seed, to Himself.

 

[TLHKAJ]

I meant sowing....I was talking to my hairdresser all about my Living faith in the Living God..he was all ears..they pricked up I noticed, when I started talking....so as I was talking I was sowing that Almighty God is Alive ,powerful and a Living Spirit..".it got him thinking...God could well be drawing him to Jesus...
..
It started off with me bringing up Joe who used to colour my hair , she is a JW, my hairdresser Ian used to work with Joe and was telling me some stories of what she believed etc,etc....that’s when I seized my chance...to spread the word that Jesus is Alive...who knows what he will get from that....he’s very open minded...he’s a searcher of self..if you know what that means...I too used to do a lot of searching within myself, before I became Born Again...

I have tried to talk to Ian before about God, he wasn’t interested, so I didn’t force..this time he was open to it..,I’ve noticed him opening up more and more over the years...he’s been doing my hair for years..

I see. Why do you plant seeds? What if they were predestined for hell? Wouldn't you just be wasting your time ...casting your pearls before swine?

 

[Ritajanice]

I see. Why do you plant seeds? What if they were predestined for hell? Wouldn't you just be wasting your time ...casting your pearls before swine?

Ah I see, there was a hidden agenda behind that question that you asked of me...you were waiting to pounce...I'm going to ignore your question.....I’ll let you think on that one....

We are chosen and predestined to become Born Again , spirit children of the most high...Praise His Holy Name....only God knows who are his chosen and predestined one’s...” we don’t”....may you know the Love Of God deep within your heart.....so that it shows...spread the Love.....in Jesus Name...Amen!

 

[TLHKAJ]

I can share what it means. Anytime you say the name Jesus in a public place, it makes unsaved people think. They think kook, Jesus freak, or my mom was a Christian and talked like that, or just maybe, why did that bother me. That is planting a seed. Someone else waters, like reading an article about Jesus in a magazine, or preacher on TV. Then it is God that does the Harvesting, by drawing that person who received the seed, to Himself.

Honestly, I know very well what it means to plant seeds. Jesus said that the Word of God is the seed. Someone shared one Scripture with me as a 5 year old. Actually, someone in the community took me, my older sister, younger brother, and our mother to church for maybe a few months. My sister had a memory verse. As she was memorizing it, I did too.

Revelation 3:20 KJV — Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

God's Word is a seed. He sent His Word to me ....literally. We moved away and from the time I was age 10, I heard the voice of the Living Word, the Lord Jesus Christ calling me, speaking to me like a friend and teaching my heart about who He is. He told me that He loved me and wanted me to serve Him. I pushed Him away for 3 years till I was 13. I'm so grateful He kept after me and was patient. But He knew I would finally say yes. He knows who will turn to Him and who will not heed His calling.

Yes, I understand about planting seeds. :) That's why it's so important to know the Living Word.

 

[Ritajanice]

I will answer for me, the Holy Spirit is with me all the time, if you hit my Jesus button (figuratively), watch out, I will start Praising the name of Jesus. When I start preaching, I'm in the Spirit, and the Holy Spirit puts words in my mouth,

He does exactly the same with me ...with Ian the words just flowed out, so who knows ,Ian could be given to Jesus by the Father...I saw an interest in him this time, that I’ve never seen before....God could well be drawing him to his Son...Praise God.

and scripture is recalled as I preach. Some preachers write sermons, not me. A lot of people are attracted to my energy and excitement.