Why Antiochus Epiphanes IV Is Not The Little Horn - Part 2: "exceeding great"

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Please read verse 23 carefully! The fourth kingdom at one point (it has been in existence since the first century BC) rules the whole earth! aND FROM THAT WORLD RULE KINGDOM TEN KINGS ARISE WHO WILL RULE TH EWORLD AS TEN KINGS AND "TEN ZONES" IF YOU WILL. Then during thier reign, the antichrist rises to power, conquers three of the ten and takes world rule!

YOu still have not named the supposed ten Muslim nations you said will attack.

I'm betting you got the second kingdom wrong like most everyone does.The second kingdom was inferior to the first ,yet Persia was four times larger,four times stronger and lasted far longer than Babylon.
So how is it inferior when it kicked Babylons butt in one night?
Common sense says Persia was not inferior to Babylon.Persia is not in the kingdom prophecied of.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

No,the fourth kingdom to rise in the middle east was not around in the first century.

And the roman empire was not even the fourth kingdom of the time.The Han dynasty in China came before the Roman empire.

All four beasts and four great kingdoms serve on e after the other. these kingdoms and the fourth in its four iterations are continuous and comprise the time of the Gentiles as Jesus spoke of.

The Han dynasty is irrelavent.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Let me ask you a question.
According to zech ,the nations attack Jerusalem on the day of the Lord and the lord goes to fight against those nations.They suffer a plague where they are consumed as they stand upon their feet.
If the ten nations were Catholic nations from Europe, then why does the word of God say the Muslim nation of Egypt suffers that plague?

Zech 14
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.


Not only are you lacking biblical knowledge,you lack common sense.Europeean nations don't want Jerusalem.The nations around Israel does because it is islams tthird holiest site.Europeams are just fine with Jerusalem being someone else's problem.

Iranians mark Jerusalem Day to support Palestinians, chant ‘death’ to America and Israel

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Well I will gladly answer your question as soon as you answer mine that I have asked four or five times now.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I'm betting you got the second kingdom wrong like most everyone does.The second kingdom was inferior to the first ,yet Persia was four times larger,four times stronger and lasted far longer than Babylon.
So how is it inferior when it kicked Babylons butt in one night?
Common sense says Persia was not inferior to Babylon.Persia is not in the kingdom prophecied of.

The second kingdom was the medeo persian empire. Each succeeding kingdom was stronger than the one prior but lesser in "glory.

Medeo-Persia was stronger than Babylon, Greeks were stronger than the Medeo-Persian, and Rome was stronger than Greece.

 

[tailgator]

All four beasts and four great kingdoms serve on e after the other. these kingdoms and the fourth in its four iterations are continuous and comprise the time of the Gentiles as Jesus spoke of.

The Han dynasty is irrelavent.

The Han dynasty came before the Roman empire.
The Roman empire is irrelevant.The Han dynasty is a kingdom of the gentiles .

 

[tailgator]

The second kingdom was the medeo persian empire. Each succeeding kingdom was stronger than the one prior but lesser in "glory.

Medeo-Persia was stronger than Babylon, Greeks were stronger than the Medeo-Persian, and Rome was stronger than Greece.

So you agree with me that the Babylonian empire was inferior to the Persian empire.

Thank you very much for agreeing .There's nothing better than common sense when it comes to prophecy.Everyone should know and understand the kingdom that would rise after Babylon is inferior to Babylon ,therefore Persia is not the second kingdom in the prophecy.

Daniel 2;39
After you, another kingdom will arise, inferior to yours. Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule over the whole earth.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The Han dynasty came before the Roman empire.
The Roman empire is irrelevant.The Han dynasty is a kingdom of the gentiles .

But they did not rule over Jerusalem.

The Egyptians were before Rome, the Hitties. Amelekites, Assyrians, Akkadians But they are not part of the statue nor th efour beasts spoken of in Daniel.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

So you agree with me that the Babylonian empire was inferior to the Persian empire.

Thank you very much for agreeing .There's nothing better than common sense when it comes to prophecy.Everyone should know and understand the kingdom that would rise after Babylon is inferior to Babylon ,therefore Persia is not the second kingdom in the prophecy.

Daniel 2;39
After you, another kingdom will arise, inferior to yours. Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule over the whole earth.

In military power the Persians were superior, but in majesty and glory they were inferior to Babylon. there are dozens of books out there that explain the differences.

Daniel was shown a descending order of metals
Gold= Babylon
Silver= the Medeo/Persian EMpire
Brass= Greece
Iron and then iron and clay= Rome.

God said the descending order was inferior to the one ahead of it, so it is!

The word inferior is "ara' which by definition is earth or world. But when used in cases like this, means inferior or less noble as each metal shown was less noble than the previous metal.

 

[tailgator]

But they did not rule over Jerusalem.

The Egyptians were before Rome, the Hitties. Amelekites, Assyrians, Akkadians But they are not part of the statue nor th efour beasts spoken of in Daniel.

The prophecy doesn't say anything about Jerusalem and is not about Jerusalem.

You must thing the Muslims are saints since they controlled Jerusalem so long.

As of Now Jerusalem is a prostitute that serves the beast.

 

[tailgator]

In military power the Persians were superior, but in majesty and glory they were inferior to Babylon. there are dozens of books out there that explain the differences.

Daniel was shown a descending order of metals
Gold= Babylon
Silver= the Medeo/Persian EMpire
Brass= Greece
Iron and then iron and clay= Rome.

God said the descending order was inferior to the one ahead of it, so it is!

The word inferior is "ara' which by definition is earth or world. But when used in cases like this, means inferior or less noble as each metal shown was less noble than the previous metal.

So now you change your word and say Persia was inferior to Babylon after correctly saying Babylon was inferior to Persia.
You are never going to understand prophecy that way.

Oh well,the little horn will be marking its subjects next year and you still won't understand it.You will still be looking at the wrong kingdom.