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ny seed! It is the Unbelief. Why else would you tell us your husband still allows the cult to access you? That certainly implied to me that you go with them willingly? Is there some portion of what they do that you like it? Why do you go with them? Unbelief
You need to educate yourself. What do you not understand about force?? I have scars from cattle prods and tasers. I don't control that. I am very careful about my surroundings, but a person can enter my space, even my home (with a key provided by someone - not me) and use a taser to subdue. I have witnesses to the marks on my body. Don't accuse me of compliance. You have no clue!!

I do many things to obtain some level of safety ...some if which I'd rather not state here. Actual physical accessing happens, but are much fewer and farther between the last few years. One thing I do is inside locks. My doors have inside locks, so that someone cannot simply use a key to enter while I sleep. I lock my home when I am inside, even during the day. I am watchful about my surroundings when outside or in my car, or in stores, etc ....I don't even go much at all to a doctor or hospital for the same reason. It makes me vulnerable. And yet, sometimes, even despite my efforts, things happen. I can't control them. Do you have the same accusations against Paul or any of the others who were apprehended and persecuted? Or are they different because they were men?

I'm pretty fed up with your high and mighty male ego.
 

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Tell me about the time the cult came for you and your husband said she's in there go get her...and you stood up and said, you have no power over me in the Name of Jesus whom I belong to...! DId that ever happen?
Give me a scripture where Paul did this and that stopped all his persecutions.

Honestly, when I started reading your words, I almost thought you knew about some instances that happened, because it happened that way, except I was still hurt. I tried to escape, but there was someone at the door preventing my escape.

And yet, there were specific times that I did rebuke someone in the name of Jesus who was threatening me ....and God didn't physically stop them, but a heavy conviction came over them and they didn't carry out their threats. (This was a relative, in my teens.) This was an aunt who threatened me, and she later apologized and said she couldn't sleep for 3 nights till she apologized. lol
And another time, this same person came to my home and went straight to my radio/cassette player to put a rock and roll cassette in. She and everyone knew that I wouldn't allow anything on my radio/cassette player but gospel music. So she pushed the play button and within about 2 seconds, my cassette player started chewing up her cassette! LOL! I had "JESUS" written with a black permanent marker across my speaker. They didn't mock my stance after that.

But ....did that mean I never suffered any punishments since then? No, it did not. God does say that if we will reign with Him, we will also suffer with Him. Suffering will come if you are His. It's a given.


There are times now, that God keeps me FROM harm ....and there are times when He keeps me THROUGH. It's not up to me. I am called to serve Him regardless of what happens to my body. I have asked the Lord that if I must suffer, that He will allow me to witness to my abusers/persecutors. I believe He will give that opportunity. That's the biggest slap in satan's face I can think of ....what he means for evil, God can turn for GOOD!!!!! :D
 

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There is a lot of victim blaming in your posts. I think you are not aware of that. I am a survivor too. And I have to say, that your posts dont show Christ's love or heart in any way. Please go to prayer with this. The world protects the evil. But it saddens me how other Christians are not supportive and loving to the worst of the broken and just accuse and reject them, blaming them, assuming bad things. Showing no compassion to the wounded. But we can know, that our Lord Jesus does. He has great compassion for the outcast, for the wounded, for the broken, for the hurt. We are supposed to share His love here on earth. Are we all doing that? Or are our hearts hardened. Love growing cold. I am a survivor too. I am not ashamed of that. Yes, we are a child of the most high God. We do have a testimony. And God wants us to speak up. People are uncomfortable with it, dont want to hear it, reject the ones who are brave enough, like some sisters here are, to share about what happened to them. And what God is able to redeem. It just glorifes God. To hold onto Him despite all this suffering and persecution. When we can't say something loving or supporting, then at least just silently pray for survivors. They really need a lot of prayer support. Thank you so much. God bless
My beautiful sister ....words of truth spoken in love. Bless you❤️
 

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You need to educate yourself. What do you not understand about force?? I have scars from cattle prods and tasers. I don't control that. I am very careful about my surroundings, but a person can enter my space, even my home (with a key provided by someone - not me) and use a taser to subdue. I have witnesses to the marks on my body. Don't accuse me of compliance. You have no clue!!

I do many things to obtain some level of safety ...some if which I'd rather not state here. Actual physical accessing happens, but are much fewer and farther between the last few years. One thing I do is inside locks. My doors have inside locks, so that someone cannot simply use a key to enter while I sleep. I lock my home when I am inside, even during the day. I am watchful about my surroundings when outside or in my car, or in stores, etc ....I don't even go much at all to a doctor or hospital for the same reason. It makes me vulnerable. And yet, sometimes, even despite my efforts, things happen. I can't control them. Do you have the same accusations against Paul or any of the others who were apprehended and persecuted? Or are they different because they were men?

I'm pretty fed up with your high and mighty male ego.
Sis, not sure what you have been through , sounds horrendous, I was emotionally abused and beaten by a ex husband, did you know there is now a ladies forum only, where you can post in safety ,debating not allowed plus no men allowed ,?

I know all about force, especially by my ex, even a deceased family member..and parents..terrible it was growing up,I actually grew up believing force was normal, can you believe the power your own family can have over you, a vulnerable child who are supposed to be lovingly taught by their parents..not abused, I think that’s why I get very defensive at times, protecting myself from predators I recognise one a mile of, “ NOW” Praise God.
 
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Sis, not sure what you have been through , sounds horrendous, I was emotionally abused and beaten by a ex husband, did you know there is now a ladies forum only, where you can post in safety ,debating not allowed plus no men allowed ,?

I know all about force, especially by my ex, even a deceased family member..and parents..terrible it was growing up,
Bless you ..yes, I just saw that. It's sad that it has to come to the necessity of creating a space where women are safe ....on a Christian forum.

I'm sorry for what you suffered ...brings tears to my eyes. God's heart is toward you, and all (male and female) who have suffered such things. God bless you. ❤️
 

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Bless you ..yes, I just saw that. It's sad that it has to come to the necessity of creating a space where women are safe ....on a Christian forum.

I'm sorry for what you suffered ...brings tears to my eyes. God's heart is toward you, and all (male and female) who have suffered such things. God bless you. ❤️
Those who have been terribly abused Sis, have deep understanding of those who have been down that same path, do we truly ever get over terrible abuse ,I think not, when I became Born Again, I had to face that abuse head on, after God had shown me my abuse, such a long story, my mind was a complete mess and my heart was broken, they broke my spirit, controlled me..I’ve had years of counselling...only those who have suffered abuse Sis, can truly relate to it, imo..God Bless and thank you for your kind words, we need more of them on this forum imo.
 

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Sis, I’m not a victim now, I’m a survivor! Praise God @TLHKAJ
Amen! And it doesn't have to be either, or, to be honest. No one should be shamed for being used against their will ...which is the same as being victimized. As survivors of SRA/MK, most (if not all) of us live under continual ongoing threat, and do suffer repeated persecution for breaking the mind control and especially for turning to Jesus, and leading other survivors to freedom in Christ. We can be overcomers ....more than conquerors, in Christ ...even amidst suffering. Remember this, because all who follow Christ will suffer persecution. And it is coming, worldwide. Those who think it's somehow a sin to suffer will be faced with reality.

Choose today who you will serve! (Speaking to any who read, not directed at my sister, @Ritajanice.) Choose today ...and settle it in your heart, because persecution is coming to all believers. Don't look down on or mock those among you who suffer. But settle it now ....

2 Timothy 2:8-13
[8]Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:
[9]Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound.
[10]Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
[11]It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:
[12]If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
[13]If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

2 Timothy 3:10-12
[10]But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
[11]Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
[12]Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
 

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In its perfection: Woman obediant to Man, whom is obediant to God. That is its proper fulfillment and hierarchical pillar.
Wrong.

In its perfection in the Garden of Eden, God gave to both the man and the woman joint dominion over the planet and its creatures. Read Genesis 1:28.

As believers, we are to be laboring to restore the perfection of that original joint dominion over this planet. It was sin that first wrecked that perfect joint dominion and caused all sorts of imbalances and abusive treatment of one another, with the physically stronger usually imposing their will over the other. Might does not make right. We are to fight against those effects which sin brought into this world, and try to eradicate them - not to perpetuate the abuse of power further as some sort of presumed God-given law which we must observe.

It is Christ alone who is the head over all things to the church, and every believer - both male and female - is another "living stone" being built up a holy temple unto the Lord. One "living stone" does not have hierarchy over the other "living stones". Christ forbad this abuse of authority in His followers by saying "It shall NOT be so among you", in Matthew 20:25-28.
 

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Wrong.

In its perfection in the Garden of Eden, God gave to both the man and the woman joint dominion over the planet and its creatures. Read Genesis 1:28.

As believers, we are to be laboring to restore the perfection of that original joint dominion over this planet. It was sin that first wrecked that perfect joint dominion and caused all sorts of imbalances and abusive treatment of one another, with the physically stronger usually imposing their will over the other. Might does not make right. We are to fight against those effects which sin brought into this world, and try to eradicate them - not to perpetuate the abuse of power further as some sort of presumed God-given law which we must observe.

It is Christ alone who is the head over all things to the church, and every believer - both male and female - is another "living stone" being built up a holy temple unto the Lord. One "living stone" does not have hierarchy over the other "living stones". Christ forbad this abuse of authority in His followers by saying "It shall NOT be so among you", in Matthew 20:25-28.
Thank you for expounding. I was thinking on this earlier ....before the fall and how God originally created us, as opposed to things that came about as a result of the fall. Interesting....
 
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You need to educate yourself. What do you not understand about force?? I have scars from cattle prods and tasers. I don't control that. I am very careful about my surroundings, but a person can enter my space, even my home (with a key provided by someone - not me) and use a taser to subdue. I have witnesses to the marks on my body. Don't accuse me of compliance. You have no clue!!

I understand a lot about use of force. I also know you said you choose to stay there?
Why is that? I don't have a clue! Clue me in.

I do many things to obtain some level of safety ...some if which I'd rather not state here. Actual physical accessing happens, but are much fewer and farther between the last few years. One thing I do is inside locks. My doors have inside locks, so that someone cannot simply use a key to enter while I sleep. I lock my home when I am inside, even during the day. I am watchful about my surroundings when outside or in my car, or in stores, etc ....I don't even go much at all to a doctor or hospital for the same reason. It makes me vulnerable. And yet, sometimes, even despite my efforts, things happen. I can't control them. Do you have the same accusations against Paul or any of the others who were apprehended and persecuted? Or are they different because they were men?

You choose to live in a situation like that and the best you got is inside locks? I don't live in a situation like that, I live alone and I wear a pistol all over my house. You can't be that worried about it if you dont. It's like, you want to have victim status or something.

So the I trust Jesus things you said arent really true? Are you only seeking sympathetic validation of your crutch or what is it? Tell me about the time you stopped the abduction in the name of Jesus! Don't tell me how victimized you are, it isn't a hopeless situation. But yes, you would have to stand on your spiritual feet and say the words. Then you can tell us about the victory!

But you want me to believe that no one can stop this and you knowingly choose to remain in that situation. You arent telling me everything!

I'm pretty fed up with your high and mighty male ego.

Then why did you post to me? What is it you want me to do? Have sympathy for you? I would but you spoke of the Lord and I know what He can do. So you see the paradox you have created? I responded to your expressed faith. Now you want victim status and sympathy instead? (TILT). All I did was offer to help you and all you do is get defensive and start calling names and accusing me of not being overly sympathetic.

After all, it isn't about the Lord, is it? It's about you wanting to play the victim.

You can stop posting to me if you don't like my male attitude. Just a thought. Just try not to get so angry so early in the day. You wont have any left for the rest of the day!
 

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Wrong.

In its perfection in the Garden of Eden, God gave to both the man and the woman joint dominion over the planet and its creatures. Read Genesis 1:28.
FINALLY!!! Someone GETS IT!!! At no time before the fall did God say to EITHER Adam or Eve to dominate over EACH OTHER.
As believers, we are to be laboring to restore the perfection of that original joint dominion over this planet. It was sin that first wrecked that perfect joint dominion and caused all sorts of imbalances and abusive treatment of one another, with the physically stronger usually imposing their will over the other. Might does not make right. We are to fight against those effects which sin brought into this world, and try to eradicate them - not to perpetuate the abuse of power further as some sort of presumed God-given law which we must observe.
Yup! Something else that so many don't seem to get is that God never gave Adam the command to rule over Eve. He predicted to Eve what was going to happen.

And it HAS been happening ever since then.
It is Christ alone who is the head over all things to the church, and every believer - both male and female - is another "living stone" being built up a holy temple unto the Lord. One "living stone" does not have hierarchy over the other "living stones". Christ forbad this abuse of authority in His followers by saying "It shall NOT be so among you", in Matthew 20:25-28.
Perfect! :gd
 
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Thank you for expounding. I was thinking on this earlier ....before the fall and how God originally created us, as opposed to things that came about as a result of the fall. Interesting....
I get so weary of many believers presuming that God's words to Eve in Genesis 1 were a law He had approved and was instituting for them to follow, with men ruling over their wives by His design for marriage. God was only warning Eve of the sad results of what sin would cause for her gender from then onward. She herself in fear would tend to "turn to her husband" (epistrepho) to placate him instead of relying on God for her needs.

I myself was raised by parents who taught my brother and sisters that wives were to obey their husbands in EVERYTHING - including commands to sin. They fervently believed scripture taught that God would hold wives innocent of committing a sin performed in obedience to their husbands, and that he would get the blame for her act of sinfulness. It took many years, and a 16-year sojourn in a cult church environment before I finally understood the utter folly of this ridiculous doctrine my parents had concocted.
 
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Give me a scripture where Paul did this and that stopped all his persecutions.

Paul? Why Paul? Are you Paul?

Honestly, when I started reading your words, I almost thought you knew about some instances that happened, because it happened that way, except I was still hurt. I tried to escape, but there was someone at the door preventing my escape.

What way? Using the name of Jesus? And you escape was prevented? I'm not sure what your saying?

And yet, there were specific times that I did rebuke someone in the name of Jesus who was threatening me ....and God didn't physically stop them, but a heavy conviction came over them and they didn't carry out their threats.

Excuse me, but didn't you say right here that God did stop them? Oh he didn't do it like you expected Him to do it, lol! It didn't happen and did use the Lord's name and they did stop. Don't take away God's glory for that and explain it away!

One time when I was self employed and in my slow season I had a utility shut off notice. I started praying for help from the Lord a week or so before the date! Usually He would make my phone ring with some work. Not this time. The shut off date came and went and they didn't shut it off. I didn't get any work and kept praying. Finally it was 2 weeks after the shut off date and it was still on. I got nervous and called them up and said, hey my shut off notice was for 2 weeks ago. I havent paid. Why is is it still on? Are they on their way?!

She put me on hold and went to check. When she came back she said, well what we did was to look at your payment history and it's very easy to see that, if you have the money you will pay. So we figured you was slow at work and decided to give you a break!

Now I dont know where your from, but I've never seen a Utility company give anyone a break on a shut off notice! What am I to think? That the Utility company did me a favor? NO!! God answered my prayers. He just answered it the way He wanted to by softening their hearts rather than giving me work. I felt a lot better! That was the Lord! Praise God!!

So I dont buy it that God didn't stop them they just got convicted...Yes they did but from God.

And another time, this same person came to my home and went straight to my radio/cassette player to put a rock and roll cassette in. She and everyone knew that I wouldn't allow anything on my radio/cassette player but gospel music. So she pushed the play button and within about 2 seconds, my cassette player started chewing up her cassette! LOL! I had "JESUS" written with a black permanent marker across my speaker. They didn't mock my stance after that.

Now that's funny and it sounds just like God! Remember when God kept tipping over the staue of Dagon or whoever it was and they'd set it back up and it was fell over broken the next day! That's a great testimony!

There are times now, that God keeps me FROM harm ....and there are times when He keeps me THROUGH. It's not up to me. I am called to serve Him regardless of what happens to my body. I have asked the Lord that if I must suffer, that He will allow me to witness to my abusers/persecutors. I believe He will give that opportunity. That's the biggest slap in satan's face I can think of ....what he means for evil, God can turn for GOOD!!!!!

You don't think that God wants you to be abducted out of your home and abused do you? You don't want to be abducted? yes or no? I'm guessing no. So I would just remind you Sister, that, you have not when you ask not. You can stop it anytime you want to in Christ.
 

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Paul? Why Paul? Are you Paul?



What way? Using the name of Jesus? And you escape was prevented? I'm not sure what your saying?



Excuse me, but didn't you say right here that God did stop them? Oh he didn't do it like you expected Him to do it, lol! It didn't happen and did use the Lord's name and they did stop. Don't take away God's glory for that and explain it away!

One time when I was self employed and in my slow season I had a utility shut off notice. I started praying for help from the Lord a week or so before the date! Usually He would make my phone ring with some work. Not this time. The shut off date came and went and they didn't shut it off. I didn't get any work and kept praying. Finally it was 2 weeks after the shut off date and it was still on. I got nervous and called them up and said, hey my shut off notice was for 2 weeks ago. I havent paid. Why is is it still on? Are they on their way?!

She put me on hold and went to check. When she came back she said, well what we did was to look at your payment history and it's very easy to see that, if you have the money you will pay. So we figured you was slow at work and decided to give you a break!

Now I dont know where your from, but I've never seen a Utility company give anyone a break on a shut off notice! What am I to think? That the Utility company did me a favor? NO!! God answered my prayers. He just answered it the way He wanted to by softening their hearts rather than giving me work. I felt a lot better! That was the Lord! Praise God!!

So I dont buy it that God didn't stop them they just got convicted...Yes they did but from God.



Now that's funny and it sounds just like God! Remember when God kept tipping over the staue of Dagon or whoever it was and they'd set it back up and it was fell over broken the next day! That's a great testimony!



You don't think that God wants you to be abducted out of your home and abused do you? You don't want to be abducted? yes or no? I'm guessing no. So I would just remind you Sister, that, you have not when you ask not. You can stop it anytime you want to in Christ.
This should be enough now. It is crossing boundaries on many levels. You are literally mocking a survivor of tremendous abuse. Stop it here. Look at Christ. The cross. Forgiveness. Love. The fruits of the Spirit. You are hurting not only this precious sister, but also other survivors. And that is not okay. Not Christlike. I ask you to stop this now. God bless you
 

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1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

1. Corinthians 13, 1-7:
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
 

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There is a lot of victim blaming in your posts. I think you are not aware of that. I am a survivor too. And I have to say, that your posts dont show Christ's love or heart in any way. Please go to prayer with this. The world protects the evil. But it saddens me how other Christians are not supportive and loving to the worst of the broken and just accuse and reject them, blaming them, assuming bad things. Showing no compassion to the wounded. But we can know, that our Lord Jesus does. He has great compassion for the outcast, for the wounded, for the broken, for the hurt. We are supposed to share His love here on earth. Are we all doing that? Or are our hearts hardened. Love growing cold. I am a survivor too. I am not ashamed of that. Yes, we are a child of the most high God. We do have a testimony. And God wants us to speak up. People are uncomfortable with it, dont want to hear it, reject the ones who are brave enough, like some sisters here are, to share about what happened to them. And what God is able to redeem. It just glorifes God. To hold onto Him despite all this suffering and persecution. When we can't say something loving or supporting, then at least just silently pray for survivors. They really need a lot of prayer support. Thank you so much. God bless

Wow those are such beautiful words Sister and praise God that you are a survivor! Those words are so eloquent and just stirs my heart to the point that, I am sympathetic for those suffering with those things that they are. Except for the fact that it would take me setting aside what I know about the Lord to be the sympathetic soul which will let her cry on my shoulder and just pat her on the back and say there there....But wake up my Sister. This isnt White Picket Fence Christianity. This is Spiritual Warfare Christianity.

We cant all stand around feeling sorry for each other when the biggest power in the Universe is within our hearts. Be Strong in the Lord and in the power of His might.. He did not give us a spirit of fear but of power, and love and a sound mind.

This is not the same Christianity that it was when I was kid in Sunday school! We are in the last days now and things are getting deep. We are not spectators to observe. We have a job to do. I'm not beating up on the girls but they seem to not be taking any of it very seriously. We're all Brothers & Sisters in Christ and I am trying to help and they are taking offense and whining give me the princess treatment because I'm helpless thereby cancelling any expressed faith that they said they had. The one girl is smarter than the other and I can almost talk to her. But the other one has no disability, she's just mean towards men! And she invokes the whole battle of the sexes thing and I dont back down on that to a woman. Battle of the sexes can be fun at times. But having some back and forth isnt a fight but what it really amounts to is she wants the last word. (And I'm retired! Lol)

So I suggest to you to take some of this with a grain of salt. I'm not calling those girls names or anything. It's just their tactic to divert the conversation back from reality to their delusion that day. Divide and conquer. But I still have to try don't I? I think I could help the one girl at least some, the other one I'd leave at McDonalds, lol!

Jesus doenst want to return to a bunch of babes in Christ. He wants find strong mature Christians that are not afraid to walk in their faith and take a stand against evil and not just stay behind cover the whole fight. Spiritual warfare is real and no one has a clue hardly.
 

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Wrong.

In its perfection in the Garden of Eden, God gave to both the man and the woman joint dominion over the planet and its creatures. Read Genesis 1:28.

As believers, we are to be laboring to restore the perfection of that original joint dominion over this planet. It was sin that first wrecked that perfect joint dominion and caused all sorts of imbalances and abusive treatment of one another, with the physically stronger usually imposing their will over the other. Might does not make right. We are to fight against those effects which sin brought into this world, and try to eradicate them - not to perpetuate the abuse of power further as some sort of presumed God-given law which we must observe.

It is Christ alone who is the head over all things to the church, and every believer - both male and female - is another "living stone" being built up a holy temple unto the Lord. One "living stone" does not have hierarchy over the other "living stones". Christ forbad this abuse of authority in His followers by saying "It shall NOT be so among you", in Matthew 20:25-28.
Of course, but we don’t live in Eden, so my view is of what is required today.
 

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Wow those are such beautiful words Sister and praise God that you are a survivor! Those words are so eloquent and just stirs my heart to the point that, I am sympathetic for those suffering with those things that they are. Except for the fact that it would take me setting aside what I know about the Lord to be the sympathetic soul which will let her cry on my shoulder and just pat her on the back and say there there....But wake up my Sister. This isnt White Picket Fence Christianity. This is Spiritual Warfare Christianity.

We cant all stand around feeling sorry for each other when the biggest power in the Universe is within our hearts. Be Strong in the Lord and in the power of His might.. He did not give us a spirit of fear but of power, and love and a sound mind.

This is not the same Christianity that it was when I was kid in Sunday school! We are in the last days now and things are getting deep. We are not spectators to observe. We have a job to do. I'm not beating up on the girls but they seem to not be taking any of it very seriously. We're all Brothers & Sisters in Christ and I am trying to help and they are taking offense and whining give me the princess treatment because I'm helpless thereby cancelling any expressed faith that they said they had. The one girl is smarter than the other and I can almost talk to her. But the other one has no disability, she's just mean towards men! And she invokes the whole battle of the sexes thing and I dont back down on that to a woman. Battle of the sexes can be fun at times. But having some back and forth isnt a fight but what it really amounts to is she wants the last word. (And I'm retired! Lol)

So I suggest to you to take some of this with a grain of salt. I'm not calling those girls names or anything. It's just their tactic to divert the conversation back from reality to their delusion that day. Divide and conquer. But I still have to try don't I? I think I could help the one girl at least some, the other one I'd leave at McDonalds, lol!

Jesus doenst want to return to a bunch of babes in Christ. He wants find strong mature Christians that are not afraid to walk in their faith and take a stand against evil and not just stay behind cover the whole fight. Spiritual warfare is real and no one has a clue hardly.
This is not a battle between sexes...or fun and games as you state it is. We are supposed to carry each others burdens.

Galatians 6,2: Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

Galatians 5:22-23:
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Knowing God, is showing love. Not hardness and coldness. Please go to the Lord in prayer. Jesus was meek, its not weakness. Its powerful. Showing kindness is powerful.

What we see here in these messages is the enemy taking hold of. Its not of God to fight and battle and tear each other down to show who is strong spiritually. Exhibiting the Fruits of the Spirit, that is being spiritually mature.

And believe me, these sisters here know VERY WELL what spiritual warfare is.

God bless
 
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