The Deity of Jesus under attack on this forum.

[L.A.M.B.]

I'm sure your human intellect gave you a grasp of your belief. However, you are contradicting Jesus words. The Holy Spirit would not, and could not lead you to do that

You are very vocal on what you think the word of God says but continue to dismiss WHAT THE WORD OF GOD SAYS that others post.

YOUR supreme thinking you are an intellect has clouded and almost blinded your soul.
A refresher course of the WOG might help you get back your sight. To walk in darkness is very very dangerous !

 

[Davy]

I love you as a brother in Christ, Davy. I don't see any point in arguing with you about what I've read, many times. We will just agree to disagree on what they prove, and move on. Peace.

We can be nice to each other as much as we want, but I'm not going to ever tell a brother/sister believer that they are correct by disregarding simple Bible Scripture, and the Scripture is... very simple to understand.

 

[stephen64]

You are very vocal on what you think the word of God says but continue to dismiss WHAT THE WORD OF GOD SAYS that others post.

YOUR supreme thinking you are an intellect has clouded and almost blinded your soul.
A refresher course of the WOG might help you get back your sight. To walk in darkness is very very dangerous !

I'm not an intellect. we can know, no spiritual truth unless our eyes are opened by the Holy Spirit. In and of oursleves we know no spiritual truth. As to your other point, why should I give voice to others reasoning against the plain words of the bible. I have spent far too much time in the past doing that, though I have indulged people concerning John20:28 &John8:58

 

[L.A.M.B.]

If anyone CHOOSES to NOT BELIEVE in the DIETY and divine nature of God, the Son,Jesus,
then I am glad we can leave them in the hands of a just God, the Father to decide their eternity.

To each his own in choosing what the word says or doesn't say BUT take note that is where Christ will judge his followers from.
God, the Father will also judge from the WOG and the Book of Life.

 

[stephen64]

If anyone CHOOSES to NOT BELIEVE in the DIETY and divine nature of God, the Son,Jesus,
then I am glad we can leave them in the hands of a just God, the Father to decide their eternity.

To each his own in choosing what the word says or doesn't say BUT take note that is where Christ will judge his followers from.
God, the Father will also judge from the WOG and the Book of Life.

Many come on the internet believing they know far more than they do. The really mature christians do not argue with people who solely believe Christ to be the Son of God. And when you tell people there is agreement with them concerning the essence of Christ, the only difference concerns the title of Christ, and they still want to argue, it is, I am afraid an example of gross immaturity in the faith

 

[L.A.M.B.]

DITTO

 

[GEN2REV]

OK, so you have no verse that plainly states Jesus is the one true God

I will give you Jesus words on the matter, very plain words:
Now this is eternal life: that they know you(the Father), the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. John17:3

You are mistranslating that verse.

Also, aren't you the one claiming that all your opposition is only standing on one single verse.

You have made an entire doctrine out of one single verse. Do you have a single other verse, from anywhere in Scripture, to back up what you are claiming that verse declares?

I know that you don't because that's not what the Bible teaches, but can you come up with anything from Scripture to support this end-all, be-all declaration that Jesus is NOT God?

 

[GEN2REV]

Many come on the internet believing they know far more than they do. The really mature christians do not argue with people who solely believe Christ to be the Son of God. And when you tell people there is agreement with them concerning the essence of Christ, the only difference concerns the title of Christ, and they still want to argue, it is, I am afraid an example of gross immaturity in the faith

You truly have been taught by men, Stephanie.

You have clearly been steeped in church after church of faulty doctrine and the attitude, the arrogance of those blind preachers, is apparent in the air that follows you; your speech reeks of Pharisaical Pride and Pomp and the only thing that makes it worse is that you're pathetically wrong about all that you are claiming.

When challenged to find Scripture to support your points of contention, you fold like a house of cards every time.

 

[stephen64]

You are mistranslating that verse.

Also, aren't you the one claiming that all your opposition is only standing on one single verse.

You have made an entire doctrine out of one single verse. Do you have a single other verse, from anywhere in Scripture, to back up what you are claiming that verse declares?

I know that you don't because that's not what the Bible teaches, but can you come up with anything from Scripture to support this end-all, be-all declaration that Jesus is NOT God?

Well you have not got one scripture that states Christ is the one true God have you
Try Paul, he agrees with Christ(unsuprisingly)
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. 1Cor8:6

Your not going to come back with John 8:24 or John 8:58 again are you?
I guess you'll just have to counter Paul's words now as you try to do with Jesus words

 

[stephen64]

You truly have been taught by men, Stephanie.

You have clearly been steeped in church after church of faulty doctrine and the attitude, the arrogance of those blind preachers, is apparent in the air that follows you; your speech reeks of Pharisaical Pride and Pomp and the only thing that makes it worse is that you're pathetically wrong about all that you are claiming.

When challenged to find Scripture to support your points of contention, you fold like a house of cards every time.

Thank goodness I've found the ignore icon.

 

[GEN2REV]

Well you have not got one scripture that states Christ is the one true God have you
Try Paul, he agrees with Christ(unsuprisingly)
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. 1Cor8:6

Your not going to come back with John 8:24 or John 8:58 again are you?
I guess you'll just have to counter Paul's words now as you try to do with Jesus words

It looks pretty clearly to me like you've made my case for me.

And yes, you've already been given John 8:24 as well as Romans 8:9-10, but you don't honestly assess what is presented to you. You just ignore sound Scripture and keep claiming the same thing like a broken record.

Jesus is God and the Bible doesn't even make it unclear. The trinity doctrine isn't even taught in Scripture anywhere, but the fact that Jesus is God is thoroughly established throughout the Bible.

 

[Pearl]

No, you certainly have not answered the question. I have the plain scripture, you have your theological mind that loves to study the word. Its no contest really

It's okay, I'm not rattled because i stand on the firm foundation of Christianity - that our God died for us. Maybe you serve a different god.

 

[GEN2REV]

Thank goodness I've found the ignore icon.

You've been ignoring and running away for this reason and that since this debate began and not once have you proven your ridiculous claim.

You can ignore me all you like, but my rebuttals to your nonsense will still be seen by all so your heresies won't go unchallenged/uncorrected.

 

[stephen64]

It looks pretty clearly to me like you've made my case for me.

And yes, you've already been given John 8:24 as well as Romans 8:9-10, but you don't honestly assess what is presented to you. You just ignore sound Scripture and keep claiming the same thing like a broken record.

Jesus is God and the Bible doesn't even make it unclear. The trinity doctrine isn't even taught in Scripture anywhere, but the fact that Jesus is God is thoroughly established throughout the Bible.

Before I put you on ignore. Your I AM quote has twice been addressed as you know. So I know you refer to God as an angel, for God spoke through an angel in the bush(Acts7:35)
Rom8:9&10
As you know i have already told you, the holy spirit fully resides in Christ. Doesn't matter how many times these are addressed you go on quoting them as if to try and prove you are correct

 

[stephen64]

It's okay, I'm not rattled because i stand on the firm foundation of Christianity - that our God died for us. Maybe you serve a different god.

You are free to believe as you wish. But to say I may serve a different God because I believe the words of Christ, is not in your best interests. I mean that kindly

 

[Pearl]

You are free to believe as you wish. But to say I may serve a different God because I believe the words of Christ, is not in your best interests. I mean that kindly

Of course I am free to believe as I do as are you but I'm not talking to you any more.

 

[stephen64]

Of course I am free to believe as I do as are you but I'm not talking to you any more.

As you wish

 

[GEN2REV]

Before I put you on ignore. Your I AM quote has twice been addressed as you know. So I know you refer to God as an angel, for God spoke through an angel in the bush(Acts7:35)
Rom8:9&10
As you know i have already told you, the holy spirit fully resides in Christ. Doesn't matter how many times these are addressed you go on quoting them as if to try and prove you are correct

You just literally can't SEE Truth (Jesus) for what (who) it (He) is.

That's why the Bible showed us actual scales falling from Paul's eyes when God converted Him and gave Him spiritual sight. Acts 9:18

You are 100% blind to the Truth (Jesus).

 

[APAK]

You are free to believe as you wish. But to say I may serve a different God because I believe the words of Christ, is not in your best interests. I mean that kindly

Have you noticed that the ones that write generally the 'loudest' and are void of presenting any scripture commentary, and with fruitless zeal, presenting only the same recycled and canned scripture, are the same ones who never want to to discuss you input, only theirs. They are desperate to be heard to convince you they are right without even an ounce of credibility, to defend their doctrine that they have been engrained with, absent of the spirit's approval or validation.

They want to get the last word in, to create for themselves an atmosphere of some sort of victory like they have won something over you. Whilst you on the other hand are perfectly happy to discuss their inputs along with your own in confidence and without too much fanfare.

 

[Johann]

This person you are chatting with is not a KJV, anything., as its the KJV that is the bible that states that "GOD, was manifested in the Flesh".
I would imagine that the bible that this person uses, says. "HE, was manifested in the Flesh".
So, its the KJV, above all other bibles, that determines and defends the Deity of Christ.

What bible is he using
J.