T U L I P explained

[Ritajanice]

Jesus was telling Nicodemus that no matter what good he did on the outside, he needed changing on the inside. That can only happen through a supernatural act of God when His Holy Spirit convicts us of wrongdoing and brings new life to our very souls.

In other words we must receive the Living/ supernatural/spiritual birth....become Born Again by Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit who makes our spirit Born Again...he brings it from spiritual death into spiritual life.

The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children.....a Living/ supernatural/spiritual birth.

 

[Ritajanice]

f you don't believe the written Word taken into the mind is not that SAME word which is necessary to bring forth fruit pleasing to God; and it is not the source of life in Christ: then you don't have the ''power of God unto salvation' (Rom. 1:16)

You have another worldy spirit in you which leads to death.

I have the Spirit of Christ in my heart/spirit...I have been Born Again of imperishable seed that liveth and abideth forever....liveth and abideth forever in my heart/ spirit.

I rebuke your worldly remark that I have another worldly spirit in me that leads to death....worldly talk ..

The written word can not make you bear Jesus fruit, neither can it make you into the image of Jesus.

Only the power within us when we have been Born Of The Spirit..can produce Jesus fruit in us and only his power within us can make us into Jesus image...which can and does take years.

We are spiritual children of God...we aren’t worldly children.

 

[JBO]

No he wasn’t...that’s why he couldn’t understand being Born Again, His spirit was not Born Again.

He thought it meant he entered his mother’s womb a second time.

Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter his mother’s womb and be born a second time, can he?”

So your view here is that Jesus was unable to communicate effectively with Nicodemus. What absolute nonsense. I suspect that Nicodemus, after speaking with Jesus, had a lot better handle on what Jesus told him than you have even now.

The idea that Jesus could not effectively communicate with a sinner before being born again is absolute nonsense. Such a view is an affront to the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit.

 

[face2face]

No he wasn’t...that’s why he couldn’t understand being Born Again, His spirit was not Born Again.

He thought it meant he entered his mother’s womb a second time.

Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter his mother’s womb and be born a second time, can he?”

I sense you have need to forget everything you think you know and be taught again of the milk.
Nothing wrong with owning this by the way.
We all need to renew our minds with truth.
F2F

 

[face2face]

I have the Spirit of Christ in my heart/spirit.

The written word can not make you bear Jesus fruit, neither can it make you into the image of Jesus.

Only the power within us when we have been Born Of The Spirit..can produce Jesus fruit in us and only his power within us can make us into Jesus...which can and does take years.

We are spiritual children of God...we aren’t worldly children.

The desperation is starting to look bad for you Rita.

Go over the posts, read them again and learn of the Scriptural quotes presented.

Plenty there for you to grow and learn by.

F2F

 

[Ritajanice]

The desperation is starting to look bad for you Rita.

Go over the posts, read them again and learn of the Scriptural quotes presented.

Plenty there for you to grow and learn by.

F2F

Please post my errors using scripture please?

Still evading my questions?

 

[Ritajanice]

I sense you have need to forget everything you think you know and be taught again of the milk.
Nothing wrong with owning this by the way.
We all need to renew our minds with truth.
F2F

Thanks for your opinion.

Still waiting for my spiritual questions to be answered by you?

I don’t care to engage in your worldly talk thanks..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

So here is an example of where things go seriously wrong with your understanding.

even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ Eph 2:4–5.

As Paul states the wages of sin is death Romans 6:23 (physical mortal death!)

In fact if you look at the context in Ephesians 2 Paul has already told you...."among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind Eph 2:3.

Actually this is a flaw in your thinking. If mortal death was the penalty of sin, Once a person dies. they would have paid their debt and earned their right to heaven

So what is your problem Rita?

Well, you believe in the immortal soul - a divine essence which you believe you were born with however this is false teaching! You die physically and completely for two reason.

1. You inherited a condemned mortal nature - 1 Corith 15:22

2. You sin and the divine decree is death - Romans 6:23

You also have another issue which is even greater than both of these...you don't read the Bible in context - you project your false understanding on the Word of God, maybe because you have itching ears, or possibly you have a copy and paste faith? Maybe you have not been taught how to read the Bible with more care? Either way, when Paul states you were dead! It means without Christ and the One True Hope you are completely and utterly dead (think worms!) as is all mankind without their savior.

F2F

Before you try to corre3ct her on her mistakes (and she has quite a few) you should correct your own mistakes.

 

[Ritajanice]

The desperation is starting to look bad for you Rita.

What desperation?

I’ve quoted the written word...backed up by Gods Living witness His Living Holy Spirit?

You can’t understand scripture without the Holy Spirit my friend.

Who indwells our spirit..do you think it’s the written word?

I think you need some heart revelation my friend from God’s Living witness His Holy Spirit

 

[face2face]

I don't often come across someone who is anti-Scripture but I do believe its important to present the Written Word as the Apostle so keenly did.

The Word of God is absolutely essential to salvation. So much so, that Paul described it as "the word of this salvation"

“My brothers, children of the family of Abraham, and those others among you who are God-fearing, to us this word of salvation has been sent. Acts 13:26

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Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved, I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. 1 Cor. 15:1-2.

How thankful are we that Word has been recorded and found its way into our hearts!

The keen mind will see 1 Peter 1:23 and James 1:21 in those above accounts

This Word of Salvation

 

[Ritajanice]

Before you try to corre3ct her on her mistakes (and she has quite a few) you should correct your own mistakes.

I have asked you yesterday..please show me my errors, using Gods word...I await Gods correction through you?

Remember, I will rebuke your teachings and explain why they are not from the Spirit of God.

If they are from the Spirit of God, then I will stand corrected.

God loves a humble spirit and my aim is to please my Father in heaven.

Only him do I aim to please and Glorify?

 

[face2face]

Actually this is a flaw in your thinking. If mortal death was the penalty of sin, Once a person dies. they would have paid their debt and earned their right to heaven

Before you try to corre3ct her on her mistakes (and she has quite a few) you should correct your own mistakes.

Eternally, where is it taught you go to Heaven?

"The wages of sin is death" - Paul understood if sin you die!

This is basic Bible teaching.

F2F

 

[Ritajanice]

Eternally, where is it taught you go to Heaven?

"The wages of sin is death" - Paul understood if sin you die!

This is basic Bible teaching.

F2F

I thought you said you were Born Again of imperishable seed?

A Born Again doesn’t sin because they have been Born Of God’s seed?

I did ask you whose seed we were Born Again of to which you evaded my question every time.

It’s wonderful having Biblical knowledge...but my friend..we need heart revelation to understand that spiritual book the Bible.

We need to be Born Again in our spirit...that can only happen by Gods Witness His Living Holy Spirit.

That’s where the power is my friend...His Living Spirit backs up Gods written word?

Spirit gives birth to spirit? Born Of The Spirit...not Born Of The Bible....a mind Blowing supernatural/ spiritual / Living birth...which can only be delivered to our hearts/ spirit by the Living witness Gods Living Holy Spirit.

Do you understand this my friend?

You see God’s Living witness His Living Holy Spirit will always back up Gods written word.

Romans 8​

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King James Version​

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8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

How can the Bible conform you into Jesus image......?

Only Gods witness His Living Holy Spirit can do that sweetie, by His Power that indwells our spirit....we are Born Of The Spirit....that is whose Spirit conforms our spirit into the image of Jesus...he is also the fruit bearer my lovely....not us or the written word....he works in our hearts/ spirit to bear Jesus fruit and he works in our hearts/ spirit making us into Jesus image....takes years my lovely to understand all of this in our spirit.

As I say only being Born Of The Spirit can Witness Gods Written Word to our spirit....so we understand what is being said...we understand God’s written word in the spirit..not in our worldly intellect..




30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Not sure where you are getting this "spiritual death" from?

the word of God maybe?

This section in Romans 4:17 is talking about Abraham who is completely dead to this day, but lived in hope and faith of a future resurrection!

But before he was counted as righteous, He was dead. In adam all die.. even so in christ all will be made alive

Jesus said we must be born again (literally a second time) We are not born again from physical death..

in the presence of the God in whom he believed, who gives life to the dead and calls into existence the things that do not exist Ro 4:17.

Upon this principle of speaking of things which be not as though they were (because “known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world") Abraham believed in that promised life and acted in such as way as to show he actually had received the promises even though he had not! Such was the enormity of his faith!

The same is said of Christ, in his prayer, even speaks of his disciples as glorified already: “The glory which you gave me I have given them” (John. 17:22); although literally we are told in John 7:39 “that Jesus was not yet glorified!" (I know right!)

Can you see how your belief actually weakens your own faith through ignorance? Real faith doesn't believe they already have a divine essence in them; real faith seeks it in the hope of receiving it at a future time!

to those (enlightened!) who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; Romans 2:7

I could go on but I think you get the picture

F2F

do you get the picture though?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

How is it possible for someone to post so much error?

When Jesus said "let the dead (condemned) bury the dead (condemned)" he meant precisely that!

No, He said let the dead bury the dead. He did not say condemned.

Jesus was pointing out that for this man his earthly dead father was Supreme, and he worshipped death and not life! He had the option of following a COFFIN or the LORD of LIFE! The Grk reads "Let the dead bury their own dead" That father, not being a follower of the Lord was a DEAD man. So the two "would be" Disciples fell by the way side. It is a sobering lesson to you to have nowhere near the perception that Jesus had. Even the LAW taught that! The High Priest in Israel under the Law was not permitted to attend the funeral of his own mother or father!

You overlay your false teaching onto the Lords clear warnings and think this is alright?

Wow - no fear in that but judgement will come!

F2F

Correct your false teaching before you try to correct someone elses.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Your spirit can tell you whatever you want it to tell you and it will always be right in your own mind.
Self deception is the most dangerous kind.
F2F

read this to yourself.

Me, I am eating some popcorn watching you two go at it..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I have asked you yesterday..please show me my errors, using Gods word...I await Gods correction through you?

lol. You have been shown by myself. By @Behold, by @face2face and by so many others I have lost count..

Remember, I will rebuke your teachings and explain why they are not from the Spirit of God.

You can not rebuke anyone my friend. You need to get off your high horse thinking you are above everyone. Your pride has got you in knots.

If they are from the Spirit of God, then I will stand corrected.

They are Gods word. I posted jesus own words..

God loves a humble spirit and my aim is to please my Father in heaven.

Well then show some humility. I rarely see this from you.

Only him do I aim to please and Glorify?

The learn who he is and about him.. Not this fake God you keep promoting

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Eternally, where is it taught you go to Heaven?

"The wages of sin is death" - Paul understood if sin you die!

This is basic Bible teaching.

F2F

The wage of sin is death (spiritual) the gift of God is life (spiritual)

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.

Your either in Adam (dead) or in Christ (alive)

Ephesians 2: 1-9:
And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, 2 in which you once walked according to the [a]course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, 3 among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

1. We were dead (not physically. Spiritually)
2. While we were dead. he made us alive (spiritually)

Colossians 2:13
And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,

Again, Spiritual death here, we were dead, and he made us alive

it is not physical death..

Physical death is a consequence of sin, it is not the punishment of sin. Adam died the moment he sinned, He died physically 900 some years later

 

[Ritajanice]

lol. You have been shown by myself. By @Behold, by @face2face and by so many others I have lost count..

You have never ever corrected my errors, neither have the other two.

So I ask again show me my error that we are Born Again by Gods Living Witness His Holy Spirit?

You can not rebuke anyone my friend. You need to get off your high horse thinking you are above everyone. Your pride has got you in knots.

Instead of voicing your own opinion show me where I’m in error..I speak Gods truth and am led by His Living Spirit to do so?

They are Gods word. I posted jesus own words..

Well then show some humility. I rarely see this from you.

The learn who he is and about him.. Not this fake God you keep promoting

Once again your own opinion, I refuse to react to your worldly talk.

Now please tell me again...did you not say that the cross was the imperishable seed that we are Born Again of?

You need more than the written word my friend you need God’s witness His Living Holy Spirit to make your spirit come to life.

The cross does not make your spirit Born Again and readers or guests need to know this un- truth that you post.

 

[Ritajanice]

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.

So tell us how are we made Alive in Christ?

Looking to the cross and believing is not how Gods word says we are Born Of The Spirit

You can only look to the cross and believe this, only if one has been Born Of The Spirit...the Spirit must birth your spirit into Christ Spirit for you to understand the significance of the cross?

Your human faith is no faith, without God given faith...faith is a gift from God a manifestation of the Spirit..now please tell us, where does this God given faith manifest itself?

[8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [9] Not of works, lest any man should boast. [10] For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

I can rebuke your own faith , without the Spirit you are none of His...just one’s own human belief/ faith is meaningless.

Whose Spirit have you been Born Again of?...

Now please try and rebuke my God given faith?

I ask again, where does the Spirit manifest himself?

1 Corinthians 12​

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12 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.
3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will