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[face2face]

Faith is a gift from God...we hear as we are being Born Of The Spirit...we don’t hear from joe bloggs down the road.

Interesting! Very interesting - so you don't believe that implanted Word can come through the preaching of a person to another? If so, how can God water the seed?

We hear when the Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children..the Spirit talks / testifies to our spirit as he’s indwelling our spirit.

I acknowledge that my faith came from God’s Living witness His Living Holy Spirit.

Not by the written word...the Living Holy Spirit who indwells my spirit backs up Gods written word?

Okay, this is what I needed you to say from the beginning.

You are unable to see the Work of God in His Word and how it can lead a person to salvation when taken into their heart and beleived upon.

Somehow you came to know salvation without Gods written Word.

Nice chatting.

F2F

 

[Ritajanice]

Interesting! Very interesting - so you don't believe that implanted Word can come through the preaching of a person to another? If so, how can God water the seed?

There is nowhere in scripture that says we are Born Again by the implanted word...we are Born Of The Spirit, that is the word of God..please don’t add your words to Gods word...they are confusing and I rebuke them.

Okay, this is what I needed you to say from the beginning.

You are unable to see the Work of God in His Word and how it can lead a person to salvation when taken into their heart and beleived upon.

Not biblical..we must be Born Of The Spirit to see the Kingdom Of God.

Somehow you came to know salvation without Gods written Word.

Nice chatting.

F2F

None of this is Biblical it comes from your own understanding...

I became Born Again exactly how I told you how I became Born Again...scroll back in case you missed it...explained becoming Born Again to you about x30...posts.

The written word does not make one’s spirit Born Again, but...you could be reading the written word , when the Holy Spirit chooses to make you spirit Born Again, if it’s Gods will that is..the Spirit does the will of the Father on the earth?

Only Gods Living witness can bring our spirit from death into His glorious Live...he does that when we become Born Again of incorruptible/ imperishable seed..that liveth and abideth forever.

That seed the Living Holy Spirit,liveth and abideth forever in our hearts/ spirit....when he makes our spirit Born Again.

 

[face2face]

I didn’t say he was the wind...show me where I said he was the wind?

I asked you can you see the wind?

Its the sound I'm trying to draw your attention to Rita but you wont go there because you it leads you to Romans 10:17 a place you don't want to arrive at.

The Holy Spirit is like the wind just as Jesus explains to Nicodemus...now please answer my questions I have answered all of yours ..can you see God’s Living Witness the Holy Spirit?

Because we are Born Of The Spirit.....we aren’t Born Again of the scripture you keep posting, which has nothing to do with being Born Of The Spirit

Where have I said we are born again of the Scripture?

since you have been born again, not of perishable seed but of imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God; 1 Peter 1:23

So who plants the imperishable seed?
Where does that seed come from?

How does 1 Peter 1:23 speak the same message as James 1:21?

Is implanted Word the same as Imperishable Seed?
Where do you go to get this seed?

Answer: The Holy Scriptures which is the written Word of God taken into hearts and believed upon!

This happens in the mind of a believer when they have ears to hear what the Spirit teaches! The Word is the germ of Life which will grow more and more as one reads the Word allowed and allows it to renew / transform the mind.

Boy, I'm even using born again quotes and linking them to the Scripture - who would have thought such a thing was possible

 

[JBO]

There is nowhere in scripture that says we are Born Again by the implanted word...we are Born Of The Spirit, that is the word of God..please don’t add your words to Gods word...they are confusing and I rebuke them.

None of this is Biblical it comes from your own understanding...

I became Born Again exactly how I told you how I became Born Again...scroll back in case you missed it...explained becoming Born Again to you about x30...posts.

The written word does not make one’s spirit Born Again, but...you could be reading the written word , when the Holy Spirit chooses to make you spirit Born Again, if it’s Gods will that is..the Spirit does the will of the Father on the earth?

None of this is Biblical, it comes from your own understanding. No matter how much you want it, God is not speaking to you in any sense other than through the written word. Your concept of the "living Word" is just wrong.

 

[face2face]

There is nowhere in scripture that says we are Born Again by the implanted word...

I just provided it in the last post!

You are a hoot Rita.

Get your mind out of the Christian commentaries and into the Word.

F2F

 

[Ritajanice]

Its the sound I'm trying to draw your attention to Rita but you wont go there because you it leads you to Romans 10:17 a place you don't want to arrive at.

[8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [9] Not of works, lest any man should boast. [10] For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Where have I said we are born again of the Scripture?

since you have been born again, not of perishable seed but of imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God; 1 Peter 1:23

So who plants the imperishable seed?
Where does that seed come from?

How does 1 Peter 1:23 speak the same message as James 1:21?

Is implanted Word the same as Imperishable Seed?
Where do you go to get this seed?

Answer: The Holy Scriptures which is the written Word of God taken into hearts and believed upon!

This happens in the mind of a believer when they have ears to hear what the Spirit teaches! The Word is the germ of Life which will grow more and more as one reads the Word allowed and allows it to renew / transform the mind.

Boy, I'm even using born again quotes and linking them to the Scripture - who would have thought such a thing was possible

Its the sound I'm trying to draw your attention to Rita but you wont go there because you it leads you to Romans 10:17 a place you don't want to arrive at.

Where have I said we are born again of the Scripture?

since you have been born again, not of perishable seed but of imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God; 1 Peter 1:2

Which means what?..I’ve already given you the answer?

So who plants the imperishable seed?
Where does that seed come from?

How does 1 Peter 1:23 speak the same message as James 1:21?

Is implanted Word the same as Imperishable Seed?
Where do you go to get this seed?

I have already explained who the seed is did you miss it?

Answer: The Holy Scriptures which is the written Word of God taken into hearts and believed upon!

Not biblical..we are Born Of The Spirit

This happens in the mind of a believer when they have ears to hear what the Spirit teaches! The Word is the germ of Life which will grow more and more as one reads the Word allowed and allows it to renew / transform the mind.

Boy, I'm even using born again quotes and linking them to the Scripture - who would have thought such a thing was possible

You have used no Born Again quotes...you have used what you believe are Born Again quotes

 

[Ritajanice]

I just provided it in the last post!

You are a hoot Rita.

Get your mind out of the Christian commentaries and into the Word.

F2F

Show me that we are Born Again of the implanted word please?

 

[face2face]

Which means what?..I’ve already given you the answer?

I have already explained who the seed is did you miss it?

Not biblical..we are Born Of The Spirit

You have used no Born Again quotes...you have used what you believe are Born Again quotes

This is plain and simple pride...self delusion on a level I cannot fathom.

So many have refuted truth when its plainly stated to their own hurt

F2F

 

[face2face]

Show me that we are Born Again of the implanted word please?

@everyone

Would someone else like to explain the meaning of 1 Peter 1:23 and James 1:21 to Rita

I'm done for the moment

F2F

Off to eat dinner and read the Word.

 

[Ritajanice]

This is plain and simple pride...self delusion on a level I cannot fathom.

So many have refuted truth when its plainly stated to their own hurt

F2F

Explain my error using scripture please?

 

[face2face]

@Ritajanice

Do you want to learn or not?

 

[Ritajanice]

@everyone

Would someone else like to explain the meaning of 1 Peter 1:23 and James 1:21 to Rita

I'm done for the moment

F2F

Off to eat dinner and read the Word.

Sorry...Gods word says we must be Born Of The Spirit...

@everyone

Would someone else like to explain the meaning of 1 Peter 1:23 and James 1:21 to Rita

whose seed are we Born Again of ?

Please stop evading my questions to you?

 

[Ritajanice]

@Ritajanice

Do you want to learn or not?

Please answer my questions...what seed are we Born Again of?

We are Born Again of imperishable/ incorruptible seed....whose seed is that?

That is imperishable/ incorruptible?....whose seed is incorruptible/ imperishable?

Is it a Living seed...or a dead seed?

Does this seed bring our spirit Alive in Christ?

 

[face2face]

Sorry...Gods word says we must be Born Of The Spirit...

whose seed are we Born Again of ?

Please stop evading my questions to you?

I've shown you the answers to your question but your mind is unwilling to accept that seed.

F2F

 

[One 2 question]

Ju

Sorry...Gods word says we must be Born Of The Spirit...

whose seed are we Born Again of ?

Please stop evading my questions to you?

Just a quick interjection here. Was Nicodemus ever born again?

 

[face2face]

Matt. 13:3-9 - which soil are you in this conversation?
Why would Jesus use this analogy and how does it relate to 1 Peter 1:23 and James 1:21

If you don't believe the written Word taken into the mind is not that SAME word which is necessary to bring forth fruit pleasing to God; and it is not the source of life in Christ: then you don't have the ''power of God unto salvation' (Rom. 1:16)

You have another worldy spirit in you which leads to death.

It's Isaiah 8:20!

F2F

 

[Ritajanice]

I've shown you the answers to your question but your mind is unwilling to accept that seed.

F2F

No you haven’t....please answer my questions above...whose seed have we been Born Again of...it’s incorruptible/ imperishable seed.

Is that seed a dead seed or a Living seed...where is the seed planted?..where it will grow and flourish into a tree, where it will bear Jesus fruit, where we will be made into Jesus image.

Can the written word make you bear fruit can it make you into the image of Jesus?

 

[Ritajanice]

Ju

Just a quick interjection here. Was Nicodemus ever born again?

No he wasn’t...that’s why he couldn’t understand being Born Again, His spirit was not Born Again.

He thought it meant he entered his mother’s womb a second time.

Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter his mother’s womb and be born a second time, can he?”

 

[face2face]

Ju

Just a quick interjection here. Was Nicodemus ever born again?

Good question.

I am not the judge of these matters but the actions he showed at the time of the Lords death would suggest he became a disciple of the Lord but I am not going to be dogmatic on this!

F2F

 

[face2face]

Ju

Just a quick interjection here. Was Nicodemus ever born again?

(John 7) Finally, Nicodemus appears after Jesus's crucifixion to provide the customary spices for anointing the dead, and assists Joseph of Arimathea in preparing the body of Jesus for burial.

Certainly the act of one who loved the Lord

F2F