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[face2face]

Not true ..we are Born Of The Spirit?....that is a Living spiritual/ supernatural act done by Gods Living witness..do you deny this @face2face ?

So you believe the Word of God as written by the Spirit is not of God? Where do you go to get the implanted Word? If the Scripture cannot be broken and records for us Christs Words which are eternal life - where do you go for renewal & life?

 

[face2face]

I have already answered that question...now please, please answer mine...I must go...laters.

Please direct me to your answer.

 

[Ritajanice]

So you believe the Word of God as written by the Spirit is not of God? Where do you go to get the implanted Word? If the Scripture cannot be broken and records for us Christs Words which are eternal life - where do you go for renewal & life?

Listen my friend , I asked you a question.

The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods Children?

We are Born Again...where are we Born Again.

There is no point discussing with you any further, as we are on different levels of spiritual understanding are we not?

Do you believe that you can read that you are Born Again and the written word makes your spirit Born Again?

 

[Ritajanice]

Please direct me to your answer.

You said we are Born Again by the written word did you not?

So, if that is the case please explain this..The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods Children/ Born Again...are you saying we would only know this by reading the written word?

 

[Ritajanice]

Out of interest do you believe the HS is an actual literal wind?
Also do you believe you have the Spirit gifts?

F2F

The word of God that I posted tells you how we become Born Of The Spirit.

Are you denying that is a Living/ supernatural/ Living birth, that only God can do via His witness His Living Holy Spirit?

No point discussing further my friend, if you have no understanding of spiritual matters is there?

Do you actually understand that Born Again is a Living / supernatural/ spiritual birth.....our spirit is birthed into Christ’s Spirit is it not?

How else do people who have never read a Bible know that they are Born Of The Spirit?

If you don’t know the answer, no point in discussing with you any further.

The Bible is a spiritual book and can only be understood if we are Born Of The Spirit.

The Holy Spirit leads us through God’s written in our spirit, how else can you communicate with God apart from His Living witness the Living Holy Spirit...who is Alive in our hearts/ spirit?

 

[face2face]

Listen my friend , I asked you a question.

The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods Children?

We are Born Again...where are we Born Again.

There is no point discussing with you any further, as we are on different levels of spiritual understanding are we not?

Do you believe that you can read that you are Born Again and the written word makes your spirit Born Again?

I'll ask you again as you have a habbit of avoiding the question.

So you believe the Word of God as written by the Spirit, is not of God?

Where do you go to get the implanted Word?

If the Scripture cannot be broken and records for us Christs Words which are eternal life - where do you go for renewal & life?

If its not the written Word of God where do you go?

Simple question!

 

[face2face]

The word of God that I posted tells you how we become Born Of The Spirit.

Are you denying that is a Living/ supernatural/ Living birth, that only God can do via His witness His Living Holy Spirit?

No point discussing further my friend, if you have no understanding of spiritual matters is there?

Do you actually understand that Born Again is a Living / supernatural/ spiritual birth.....our spirit is birthed into Christ’s Spirit is it not?

How else do people who have never read a Bible know that they are Born Of The Spirit?

If you don’t know the answer, no point in discussing with you any further.

The Bible is a spiritual book and can only be understood if we are Born Of The Spirit.

The Holy Spirit leads us through God’s written in our spirit, how else can you communicate with God apart from His Living witness the Living Holy Spirit...who is Alive in our hearts/ spirit?

You did it again Rita

Do you believe the HS is a literal wind? Yes or No?

If so, why
If not, why not?

F2F

 

[face2face]

You said we are Born Again by the written word did you not?

So, if that is the case please explain this..The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods Children/ Born Again...are you saying we would only know this by reading the written word?

Are you trolling me here? I've quoted James 1:21 like three times and you still don't get it?

Let me ask you another way.

Where do you get your faith from?

F2F

 

[Ritajanice]

I'll ask you again as you have a habbit of avoiding the question.

So you believe the Word of God as written by the Spirit is not of God?

The written word was written by men under the influence of the Spirit.

I ask again are we Born Again by Gods Living Witness His Holy Spirit?

Who testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children?

Where do you go to get the implanted Word?

Not biblical.

If the Scripture cannot be broken and records for us Christs Words which are eternal life - where do you go for renewal & life?

If its not the written Word of God where do you go?

Simple question!

I asked you a question..is the word of God Alive and Active?

Did the Living word of God make Adam from the dust of the ground?

Is Gods Living word His Spirit that is everywhere?

 

[Ritajanice]

You did it again Rita

Do you believe the HS is a literal wind? Yes or No?

If so, why
If not, why not?

F2F

I have posted the scripture that tells us how we are Born Of The Spirit.

Can you see the wind?

Can you see the Holy Spirit?

 

[Ritajanice]

Are you trolling me here? I've quoted James 1:21 like three times and you still don't get it?

Let me ask you another way.

Where do you get your faith from?

F2F

No I am not trolling.

Faith is a gift from God a manifestation of the Spirit?...that is Gods word...where does God given faith manifest itself in us?

We are Born Again by Gods Living Spirit...our spirit is Born Again and brought to life by the power of Gods Living witness His Holy Spirit....do you deny that Spirit gives birth to spirit?

 

[face2face]

The written word was written by men under the influence of the Spirit.

Okay, that wasn't hard!

I ask again are we Born Again by Gods Living Witness His Holy Spirit?

Who testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children?

Not biblical


I asked you a question..is the word of God Alive and Active?

Did the Living word of God make Adam from the dust of the ground?

Is Gods Living word His Spirit that is everywhere?

Forgive me Rita but you have an unhealthy resistence to the Written Word, which I'm trying to work out why that is.

F2F

 

[Ritajanice]

Okay, that wasn't hard!

Forgive me Rita but you have an unhealthy resistence to the Written Word, which I'm trying to work out why that is.

F2F

I have posted Gods written word...that says The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children...where does the Spirit testify that truth in us?


As he indwells us he testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children....that is the word of God....carried out by His Living witness the Holy Spirit...do you deny this as an un- truth?
What in us comes Alive when we have Been Born Of The Spirit?

 

[face2face]

No I am not trolling.

Faith is a gift from God a manifestation of the Spirit?...that is Gods word...where does God given faith manifest itself in us?

Okay, so we are drawing to a close I think on this subject.

So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17

You have already acknowledged above that your faith comes from God's Word and we agree that Word from Scripture takes root in the mind and it is here that the "born again process" starts and finishes.

Do we agree?

F2F

 

[face2face]

I have posted Gods written word...that says The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children...where does the Spirit testify that truth in us?

What in us comes Alive when we have Been Born Of The Spirit?

Correct God's Spirit testifies to the Spirit Word which is in us - correct!

Christ's words as recorded in Scripture are Spirit and Life! John 6:63

Do you go somewhere else to find Christ's Words? Does he speak to you privately/personally and gives you personal instruction which others do not?

F2F

 

[Ritajanice]

Okay, so we are drawing to a close I think on this subject.

So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17

Faith is a gift from God...we hear as we are being Born Of The Spirit...we don’t hear from joe bloggs down the road.

We hear when the Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children..the Spirit talks / testifies to our spirit as he’s indwelling our spirit.

You have already acknowledged above that your faith comes from God's Word and we agree that Word from Scripture takes root in the mind and it is here that the "born again process" starts and finishes.

I acknowledge that my faith came from God’s Living witness His Living Holy Spirit.

Not by the written word...the Living Holy Spirit who indwells my spirit backs up Gods written word?

Do we agree?

F2F

 

[JBO]

Okay, so we are drawing to a close I think on this subject.

So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17

You have already acknowledged above that your faith comes from God's Word and we agree that Word from Scripture takes root in the mind and it is here that the "born again process" starts and finishes.

Do we agree?

F2F

The Word that Ritajanice is talking about faith coming from is not God's written Word; rather it is the "Living Word" that she hears and thinks comes directly from God to her which she then uses as a basis for her interpretation of God's written Word.

 

[face2face]

I have posted the scripture that tells us how we are Born Of The Spirit.

Can you see the wind?

Can you see the Holy Spirit?

Okay, I'll spend some time here explainging where you are going astray.

The HS is not a wind! Luke records that it sounded like a wind

Suddenly a sound like a violent wind blowing came from heaven and filled the entire house where they were sitting. Ac 2:2.

Why is it important we make the distinction? Given what I have shown you from Romans 10:17?

F2F

 

[Ritajanice]

Correct God's Spirit testifies to the Spirit Word which is in us - correct!

That is not correct..The Spirit testifies with our spirit...he does not say Gods Spirit testifies to the spirit which is in us....that is not biblical.

Christ's words as recorded in Scripture are Spirit and Life! John 6:63

Do you go somewhere else to find Christ's Words? Does he speak to you privately/personally and gives you personal instruction which others do not?

F2F

The written word matures us to grow in Christ...it does not make our spirit Born Again?

We need the written word to mature and grow.

Who produces the fruit of Jesus in us?

How can we bear the fruit of Jesus?....just by reading the word...no ...we have the power within us to produce Jesus fruit...where does this power come from that is within us?

 

[Ritajanice]

Okay, I'll spend some time here explainging where you are going astray.

The HS is not a wind! Luke records that it sounded like a wind

I didn’t say he was the wind...show me where I said he was the wind?

I asked you can you see the wind?

Can you see the wind?

The Holy Spirit is like the wind just as Jesus explains to Nicodemus...now please answer my questions I have answered all of yours ..can you see God’s Living Witness the Holy Spirit?

Suddenly a sound like a violent wind blowing came from heaven and filled the entire house where they were sitting. Ac 2:2.

Why is it important we make the distinction? Given what I have shown you from Romans 10:17?

F2F

Because we are Born Of The Spirit.....we aren’t Born Again of the scripture you keep posting, which has nothing to do with being Born Of The Spirit