Entering His Kingdom through baptism, which is being born of water and the Spirit, John 3:5, does not guarantee salvation. Whether we are eventually saved, (upon one's departure from this world) depends on our faithfulness to abide by the promises we made at one's baptism. I Pet1:3-5 (through our faith(fulness)
That’s your understanding of spirit baptism..
I was Born Of The Spirit, having never read a Bible, the Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are children of God.
Born Again of imperishable seed that liveth and abideth forever....the Spirit testifies with my spirit all day every day, that I’m God’s child..I am permanently Born Of The Spirit....the Spirit will never leave my spirit ...and I can never leave the Spirit...I belong to God The Father, Jesus paid the price for me to be his...none that the Father gives to the Son...he won’t lose one.
I am a representative for the Living Spirit Of God and his mighty Living power....that’s my calling...
Only if we desire to work with the Holy Spirit. Anyone is free to depart from the living God and go his own way.
Sorry don’t agree. Once we have been supernaturally birthed by divine heart revelation, I can NEVER be un- birthed, just as his word says.
No person is predestined to be saved. As believers Christ predestined that we would be conformed to His Image Rom 8:29. As believers we are His Chosen.
Disagree, I have already posted scripture, to say that we were predestined to be conformed into Jesus image.and to bear his fruit...
(You have two texts here that you are conflating. Eph 2:1-5 is addressing the work of Christ by His incarnation and resurrection. Christ made mankind alive, How? By His resurrection He made all men alive, I Cor 15:22, Rom 5:18. By the use of the preposition (with) clearly shows this as the distinction is shown in verse 8. Christ needs to defeat death before He could call all men to repentance and belief in Him.
I am giving my Living testimony, who witnesses to my spirit that it’s Born Again..
It would not make sense if this is ONLY about believers. This would make Christ part of those who were dead in sins and tresspasses, and lived according to the course of this world. Some translations use the word "quicken" which means to be made alive physically. a more accurate meaning.
Paul also puts the last phrase in parentheses and in the past tense. Why? Christ's work is done.
The next verses tell us why He did this.
So that those, to whom Paul is speaking could be saved THROUGH FAITH. This is the purpose why He needed to save all men from death, defeat death, redeem His world.
Above you also used Colossians 2:6F
Verse 12 is the key verse because it essentially repeats Eph 2:1-10
It’s because of the death and resurrection of Jesus..that our spirit can be Born Again , then I’m reconciled back to the Spirit Of God..
Your post doesn’t resonate with my spirit...neither does it have to.thats your own personal testimony, no more valid than mine or anyone else’s.
I stand on God’s Living Witness/ testimony, His Living Holy Spirit.
I don’t stand on woman’s/ men’s testimony/ opinion or belief.
I stand on what was testified to my spirit 33 years ago.
If you start telling people that they have it all wrong, then you will butt heads.
You weren’t there when my spirit was birthed.....Spirit gives birth to spirit?
I have been called to question..but also to respect the testimonies and beliefs of others....God touches us all very differently, as we can see on many threads and by different testimonies.
All of us are seeking the Lord God out with all of our heart.....we all Love God on this forum and we should all start to love one another...not keep arguing until the cows come home....been there done all that for years...I ain’t going back to that again...I’m maturing in Christ...Praise God.