Apostle Paul's Change To The Spirit Body

[Davy]

What Jesus made clear is that judgment immediately follows the resurrection of the dead, so why do you have the judgment occurring 1,000+ years after the resurrection of all the dead that will occur when Jesus returns? Address this instead of making false claims about me.

No, your FALSE AMILL PREACHERS try... to make it clear that God's final Judgment day follows the resurrection of the dead. They simply choose to go against The Word of God and claim the destruction of the wicked into the "lake of fire" happens right then on the day of Christ's coming.

What Amill theory does is simple. Since it wrongly teaches that the "thousand years" of Rev.20 is metaphorical, OR... as some of them also believe, that it is the time of NOW, since the start of the NT Church, they MUST... then make up some lie that the "thousand years" cannot exist with the time of Christ's future return. It's not that difficult to grasp how they think and are in error...

They say, "Well, Amill men, since we are gonna' say that "thousand years" already started about the Church era, then we can't agree with that written Rev.20 Scripture that it begins when Jesus returns, now can we? So why don't we just scrap... that old "thousand years" of Rev.20 as being a literal time period, and instead say it is metaphorical only?" That is how the Amill school thought originally.

Following is a doctrine of the Amill theory defined at Crosswalk.com:

"While all believe that the millennium is spiritual and thus not earthly, some believe that the spiritual kingdom is present during the current era of the church."


Whether Amills want... to admit or not that the Rev.20 "thousand years" is about a LITERAL PERIOD OF TIME, even in THEIR OWN AMILL DOCTRINE, they create a LITERAL PERIOD of time and just call use terms like "spiritual kingdom" for it. If that isn't just a huge sign of how Amills are deceived, then what else is it, because it certainly does not make sense, nor does it align with the actual written Bible Scripture!

Like I asked in my previous post where Crosswalk.com defined the Amill theory, how many VERSIONS of that theory exists, for the Crosswalk.com definition shows SEVERAL VERSIONS of Amill theories! And you know what brethren in Christ that are NOT deceived by Amills, when you run into men with all those multiple theories of a doctrine, then know that is a major SIGN of their DECEPTION.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

No, not ALL Amillennialists believe all the wicked are destroyed on the day of Christ's future return.

Where are you getting that from? All Amillennialists believe that the thousand years is not literal and does not occur after Christ returns, so, with that in mind, what else can happen to the wicked when He returns except that they are destroyed? They can't survive and continue to live on after He returns since no Amillennialist believes that mortals will live on the earth after He returns.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

No, your FALSE AMILL PREACHERS try... to make it clear that God's final Judgment day follows the resurrection of the dead. They simply choose to go against The Word of God and claim the destruction of the wicked into the "lake of fire" happens right then on the day of Christ's coming.

You go against The Word of God by denying that. Look at Matthew 25:31-46. It describes Jesus coming with His angels and all people being gathered before Him at that point. Then everyone is judged with the wicked being cast into "the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels". So, what is described in the following two verses are the same event which is said to happen when Christ comes (Matt 25:31-46) and after the thousand years (Rev 20:11-15).

Matthew 25:41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

Revelation 20:15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

Do you think these verses are describing different events or the same event?

What Amill theory does is simple. Since it wrongly teaches that the "thousand years" of Rev.20 is metaphorical, OR... as some of them also believe, that it is the time of NOW, since the start of the NT Church, they MUST... then make up some lie that the "thousand years" cannot exist with the time of Christ's future return. It's not that difficult to grasp how they think and are in error...

It's not difficult to grasp how you are completely unable to refute Amillennialism. That is plain for all to see.

They say, "Well, Amill men, since we are gonna' say that "thousand years" already started about the Church era, then we can't agree with that written Rev.20 Scripture that it begins when Jesus returns, now can we? So why don't we just scrap... that old "thousand years" of Rev.20 as being a literal time period, and instead say it is metaphorical only?" That is how the Amill school thought originally.

While Amils do not believe it's a literal one thousand years, we do acknowledge that it represents an actual period of time with a beginning and ending in case you are saying otherwise. Are you somehow not aware that the word "thousand" is sometimes used figuratively in scripture? Do you take the word "thousand" literally in this verse:

Deuteronomy 7:9 Know therefore that the Lord your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commandments.

How about this one:

Psalm 50:9 I have no need of a bull from your stall or of goats from your pens, 10 for every animal of the forest is mine, and the cattle on a thousand hills.

Following is a doctrine of the Amill theory defined at Crosswalk.com:

"While all believe that the millennium is spiritual and thus not earthly, some believe that the spiritual kingdom is present during the current era of the church."

Yeah, so? Jesus taught that His kingdom does not come with observation (Luke 17:20) and is not of this world (John 18:36). His kingdom is spiritual and we're in it now. Do you deny that you're in His kingdom now? Is He not your King right now?

Colossians 1:12 and giving joyful thanks to the Father, who has qualified you[f] to share in the inheritance of his holy people in the kingdom of light. 13 For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, 14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Whether Amills want... to admit or not that the Rev.20 "thousand years" is about a LITERAL PERIOD OF TIME, even in THEIR OWN AMILL DOCTRINE, they create a LITERAL PERIOD of time and just call use terms like "spiritual kingdom" for it.

Again, Amils do acknowledge that the thousand years represents an actual period of time with a beginning and ending. We just don't believe it is a literal thousand years. We believe the term "thousand" is used similarly there as it is in other scripture to represent a large, undetermined number.

If that isn't just a huge sign of how Amills are deceived, then what else is it, because it certainly does not make sense, nor does it align with the actual written Bible Scripture!

You don't even know what you're talking about. You are doing NOTHING to refute Amill here. Absolutely nothing. All you have is your insistence that the thousand years has to be literal. No, it does not. The word "thousand" isn't any more literal in Revelation 20 than it is in the examples I gave above where the word is used to represent a large, undetermined number. Unless you think God's promises only apply to a literal thousand generations and then no longer apply? Or unless you think God only owns the cattle on a thousand hills but not on the rest of the hills?

Like I asked in my previous post where Crosswalk.com defined the Amill theory, how many VERSIONS of that theory exists, for the Crosswalk.com definition shows SEVERAL VERSIONS of Amill theories!

LOL. The basics of Amill are the same for everyone. Amills don't all agree on everything just like not all Premills agree on everything. So what? You are the only Premill who believes that all of the saved and unsaved will be resurrected at the same time. So, you have your own version of Premill in that sense. Can I criticize Premill just because of that or can we allow for some differences without trying to use that as evidence that something can't be true?

And you know what brethren in Christ that are NOT deceived by Amills, when you run into men with all those multiple theories of a doctrine, then know that is a major SIGN of their DECEPTION.

LOL. You are so clueless. What you're saying applies to Premills as well. It's ridiculous to think that all Amills will agree on everything. Premills clearly do not agree on everything. All other Premills disagree with your interpretation of John 5:28-29, for example. So, can I then claim that Premill can't be true since Premills aren't in 100% agreement on everything?

 

[Davy]

You go against The Word of God by denying that. Look at Matthew 25:31-46. It describes Jesus coming with His angels and all people being gathered before Him at that point. Then everyone is judged with the wicked being cast into "the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels". So, what is described in the following two verses are the same event which is said to happen when Christ comes (Matt 25:31-46) and after the thousand years (Rev 20:11-15).

Nah... you are only trying to LIMIT Lord Jesus Christ's teaching about the events of His future reign over the nations. That's what it means to try and STOP with what He taught in that Matthew 25 Scripture, and then PURPOSEFULLY OMIT the rest of His LATER teaching about that event written of in His Book of Revelation, AND even in the Old Testament prophets!

Amills squirm at the thought of someone revealing the following Zechariah 14 prophecy about Christ's future return on the "day of the Lord", and HIS REIGN over the REMAINING WICKED!

Zech 14:1-12
14 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

That "day of the Lord" is the last day of this present world, and is when Lord Jesus returns and the resurrection happens, and His gathering of His faithful Church. Jesus will fight those "nations" that are to come up against Israel on that last day, as written of in Ezekiel 38 and Zephaniah 3, and Revelation 19, etc.

So Voila! (French), this Zechariah 14 chapter is FUTURE PROPHECY, even though it was written in the Old Testament prophets.

4 And His feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Per Acts 1, that Mount of Olives east of Jerusalem is where Lord Jesus ascended to Heaven from, in a cloud as His disciples were there watching. Two angels in white then appeared to His Apostles there and told them Jesus shall return in like manner as they saw Him ascend up into Heaven.

Make no mistake then, Lord Jesus is COMING BACK TO THIS EARTH TO THE SPOT WHERE HE LEFT THIS EARTH.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with Thee.

That means by the time Jesus' feet touch down, He will have GATHERED ALL His faithful SAINTS to Him, and thus brings them with Him there... at that Mount of Olives.

6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

That idea, "But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD" is the idea Jesus mentioned in His Olivet discourse of Matthew 24 and Mark 13 that no man knows the day or hour of His future coming. Not even Lord Jesus knows, like He said, but The Father only.

So once again, the above is clearly a reference to the day of Christ's future coming.


8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

That is about the return of God's River of Genesis 2, back upon this earth. It's about God's River of the Waters of Life, a LITERAL RIVER that was once upon this earth that fed four other rivers on earth, two of which still exist today (Euphrates and Tigris or Hiddekel - see Genesis 2.) Per Ezekiel 47, God's River will return with Christ's future coming, and Jesus as the "BRANCH" of Zechariah 6 will build the future Millennial "sanctuary" where God's River will flow out from.

9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

THAT... is when all of Christ's enemies will be made His footstool, when His future reign over the UNSAVED nations with "a rod of iron" begins at His coming.


10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

You mean this earth WON'T BE TOTALLY DESTROYED like some brethren misinterpret what Apostle Peter said in 2 Peter 3:10-13? That's right. Even the Greek for the KJV word "elements" that Peter mentioned is actually about an ordinal period of time, a world age, and NOT about the literal table of atomic elements of matter. The above Scripture is proof... that Jerusalem on earth will still... exist AFTER Christ's future return. His coming will create 'some' earth changes, like the above, yet this earth is forever like God's Word declares.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
KJV

Those armies of Ezekiel 38 and 39 that will come upon Israel on the last day which Jesus will destroy with the brightness of His coming, and is about God's "consuming fire" burning their flesh bodies away at an instant on that "day of the Lord".

Zech 14:16-19
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

That is about UNSAVED nations, not Christ's elect saints that reign with Him. Notice that is AFTER Christ's coming, and into His future Millennial reign. Those UNSAVED NATIONS He will reign over with the "rod of iron" will be made... to come up to Jerusalem from year to year (a reference to the "thousand years" of Rev.20), in order that they BOW to Him as KING of kings and LORD of lords. And... they will be made to keep that "feast of tabernacles" also.

Thus the wicked unsaved will STILL EXIST after Christ's future return! And that is when He will begin His reign over all His enemies.

17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
KJV

That above shows some among those UNSAVED NATIONS will be able to REBEL in refusing to come up to Jerusalem from year to year to worship The KING. What does that reveal about that time AFTER Jesus Christ has returned? Can that happen with the future new heavens and a new earth time?? NO WAY!

Because those NATIONS will still... be able to REJECT Christ and not come up to worship, reveals that IS NOT THE NEW HEAVENS AND NEW EARTH TIMING JUST YET. It is another pointer of many Scriptures, to Christ's future "thousand years" reign of Rev.20 being meant LITERALLY.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Nah... you are only trying to LIMIT Lord Jesus Christ's teaching about the events of His future reign over the nations.

That's a lie. I would never do such a thing. I'm going by what He actually taught and not trying to add to it or twist it like you do.

That's what it means to try and STOP with what He taught in that Matthew 25 Scripture, and then PURPOSEFULLY OMIT the rest of His LATER teaching about that event written of in His Book of Revelation, AND even in the Old Testament prophets!

Nonsense. If your interpretation of the book of Revelation and OT prophecies doesn't line up with what Jesus taught, then you need to look at the book of Revelation and OT prophecies again because Jesus knew what He was talking about. He knew the OT prophecies far better than any of us do, so why not allow Him to teach you what they mean instead of trying to figure it all out with your own limited understanding?

Amills squirm at the thought of someone revealing the following Zechariah 14 prophecy about Christ's future return on the "day of the Lord", and HIS REIGN over the REMAINING WICKED!

LOL. Not at all. Jesus and the NT authors, who understood Zechariah 14 far better than you or I do, did not teach anything that agrees with your false understanding of Zechariah 14. That should concern you, but it doesn't because you're more concerned with believing what you want to believe than with what scripture actually teaches about this.

Zech 14:1-12
14 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

That "day of the Lord" is the last day of this present world, and is when Lord Jesus returns and the resurrection happens, and His gathering of His faithful Church.

I'm sometimes amazed when you get anything right, but what you said is correct, even though Zechariah 14 is not about the day of the Lord that passages like 1 Thess 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-12 refer to since those passages do not allow for any unbelievers to survive Christ's return. Paul and Peter understood the OT prophecies like Zechariah 14 far better than you or anyone else here, including me. And they did not teach what you try to teach about what will happen on the day of the Lord. That should raise a red flag, but instead you act as if Paul and Peter didn't know what they were talking about and that they must not have understood Zechariah 14.

Jesus will fight those "nations" that are to come up against Israel on that last day, as written of in Ezekiel 38 and Zephaniah 3, and Revelation 19, etc.

It's not "nations", it's "heathen" that He will destroy with His rod of iron when He returns.

Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. 8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. 9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Despite Him destroying His enemies, you somehow have some of them surviving and have Him reigning over them for a thousand years. Nonsense. Why would He only destroy some of His enemies while letting others survive? Paul taught that He will be taking vengeance on those who dont know God and don't obey the gospel when He returns (2 Thess 1:7-10). So, who are these people you think He will rule over, anyway? A bunch of dead bodies?

So Voila! (French), this Zechariah 14 chapter is FUTURE PROPHECY, even though it was written in the Old Testament prophets.

So, do you think when Paul and Peter wrote about the day of the Lord, they were mistaken and didn't have the understanding of Zechariah 14 that you have?

4 And His feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Per Acts 1, that Mount of Olives east of Jerusalem is where Lord Jesus ascended to Heaven from, in a cloud as His disciples were there watching. Two angels in white then appeared to His Apostles there and told them Jesus shall return in like manner as they saw Him ascend up into Heaven.

Make no mistake then, Lord Jesus is COMING BACK TO THIS EARTH TO THE SPOT WHERE HE LEFT THIS EARTH.

It does not say He will come back to the location from where He left. You are butchering the text because of your doctrinal bias. It says He will come from heaven in the same MANNER that they saw Him ascend to heaven. What MANNER did He ascend to heaven? Visibly and bodily. He will return from heaven in that same MANNER. Visibly and bodily. To act as if it says anything about Him coming back to the same location from where He left, when it absolutely says no such thing, reveals your extreme doctrinal bias and lack of objectivity when it comes to interpreting scripture.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with Thee.

That means by the time Jesus' feet touch down, He will have GATHERED ALL His faithful SAINTS to Him, and thus brings them with Him there... at that Mount of Olives.

6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

That idea, "But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD" is the idea Jesus mentioned in His Olivet discourse of Matthew 24 and Mark 13 that no man knows the day or hour of His future coming. Not even Lord Jesus knows, like He said, but The Father only.

So once again, the above is clearly a reference to the day of Christ's future coming.

It clearly can't be because to interpret Zechariah 14 as a future prophecy applying to His second coming and a time period afterwards contradicts a lot of other scripture.

8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

That is about the return of God's River of Genesis 2, back upon this earth. It's about God's River of the Waters of Life, a LITERAL RIVER that was once upon this earth that fed four other rivers on earth, two of which still exist today (Euphrates and Tigris or Hiddekel - see Genesis 2.) Per Ezekiel 47, God's River will return with Christ's future coming, and Jesus as the "BRANCH" of Zechariah 6 will build the future Millennial "sanctuary" where God's River will flow out from.

I disagree. It reminds me of this:

John 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

Why you assume everything in Zechariah 14 is literal is beyond me. Have you ever read the rest of Zechariah? If you did you would know there's a fair amount of symbolism in the book. Yet, you interpret every word in Zechariah 14 literally. It makes no sense.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

THAT... is when all of Christ's enemies will be made His footstool, when His future reign over the UNSAVED nations with "a rod of iron" begins at His coming.

THAT is NOW.

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Revelation 1:5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, 6 and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.

You continue to fail to allow the NT to aid your understanding of the OT prophecy.

10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

You mean this earth WON'T BE TOTALLY DESTROYED like some brethren misinterpret what Apostle Peter said in 2 Peter 3:10-13? That's right.

It won't be annihilated, but certainly the entire surface will be burned up. That's what will result in the new earth "wherein dwelleth righteousness" (2 Peter 3:13). There will be no wickedness anymore after 2 Peter 3:10-13 occurs. Why do you change 2 Peter 3:10-13 in favor of your interpretation of Zechariah 14:11 as if Peter didn't know what he was talking about? The NT sheds light on the OT. When you fail to understand that elementary concept, then you fail to understand the OT prophecies properly.

The NT authors like Peter knew the OT prophecies far better than any of us, yet Peter taught that the entire earth (the surface) will be burned up and that is why he said in verse 13, "Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.". Do you even understand what he was saying there? What promise was he referring to? The promise of Christ's second coming that he referenced earlier in 2 Peter 3:4. It is according to the promise of Christ's second coming that we look for new heavens and a new earth where righteousness, and only righteousness, will dwell. That places the timing of the ushering in of the new heavens and new earth at His second coming, not 1000+ years later as you falsely believe.

Even the Greek for the KJV word "elements" that Peter mentioned is actually about an ordinal period of time, a world age, and NOT about the literal table of atomic elements of matter.

Nonsense! Is there no scripture you won't twist to make it fit your premil doctrine? He would not talk about "an ordianl period of time" dissolving. LOL. You are making yourself look very bad here.

The above Scripture is proof... that Jerusalem on earth will still... exist AFTER Christ's future return. His coming will create 'some' earth changes, like the above, yet this earth is forever like God's Word declares.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
KJV

Those armies of Ezekiel 38 and 39 that will come upon Israel on the last day which Jesus will destroy with the brightness of His coming, and is about God's "consuming fire" burning their flesh bodies away at an instant on that "day of the Lord".

You obviously take that literally. Yet, you think some will somehow survive despite what that would mean if it happened literally? How?

Zech 14:16-19
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

That is about UNSAVED nations, not Christ's elect saints that reign with Him. Notice that is AFTER Christ's coming, and into His future Millennial reign. Those UNSAVED NATIONS He will reign over with the "rod of iron" will be made... to come up to Jerusalem from year to year (a reference to the "thousand years" of Rev.20), in order that they BOW to Him as KING of kings and LORD of lords. And... they will be made to keep that "feast of tabernacles" also.

Total nonsense! This is a huge insult to Christ who made His "once for all" sacrifice long ago to establish the new covenant and put an end to the old covenant and its animal sacrifices, which are required in order to keep the feast of tabernacles. Why would animal sacrifices be reinstated after Christ already put an end to them? Are you even thinking here? You are contradicting Hebrews 8-10 with your interpretation. Do you even care about that?

And, why would God again require people to go to Jerusalem to worship Him when He long ago put an end to that and instead required people to worship Him in spirit and in truth? Show me in the following passage where Jesus indicated that what He said would one day no longer be true.

John 4:19 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet. 20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. 21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Explain how your interpretation of Zechariah 14:16-19 makes any sense in light of the passage above. You have things REGRESSING back to how things were in old covenant times when Jesus returns. Why in the world would God do that after all the PROGRESS that Jesus made with His "once for all" sacrifice? You think people will once again have to do animal sacrifices, even though God doesnt even care for them or want them (read Hebrews 10) and you think people will once again have to go to Jerusalem to worship God instead of worshiping Him in spirit and in truth wherever they are. Total regression! And you think that is what is going to happen? That is utter nonsense!

Thus the wicked unsaved will STILL EXIST after Christ's future return! And that is when He will begin His reign over all His enemies.

17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
KJV

That above shows some among those UNSAVED NATIONS will be able to REBEL in refusing to come up to Jerusalem from year to year to worship The KING.

What is this "UNSAVED NATIONS" nonsense? Salvation is an individual thing, not a national thing. God is not going to require anyone to go to Jerusalem to worship Him after He long ago put an end to that and instead required people to worship Him in spirit and in truth. Your interpretation of Zechariah 14 contradicts a great deal of scripture, but it seems like you don't even care if you are contradicting other scripture or not.

 

[Davy]

A WARNING FOR BRETHREN IN CHRIST:

Certain denominations that have fallen to 2nd century doctrines of the Gnostics, like the theory of Amillennialism, are deceived about the times we are in today involving Christ's Church here on earth.

There is a false movement by those which I call the Kingdom NOW religious movement. It suggests that when Lord Jesus was raised by The Father, and then ascended to The Father, that His Kingdom became established on earth. And since around 2,000 years plus, we have already been in Christ's Kingdom here on earth. But that is NOT WHAT GOD'S WORD SHOWS US.

John 18:36
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would My servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is My kingdom not from hence.
KJV

What did Jesus say above? Simple, that IF... His Kingdom were of THIS PRESENT WORLD TIME, then His servants (like His Apostles and disciples back 2,000 plus years ago) would FIGHT that He would not be DELIVERED UP TO DIE ON THE CROSS!

That single verse above is enough to KNOW FOR CERTAIN that Christ's Kingdom is still FUTURE to this world, and will not EVER be a part of this present world.

What IS HERE ON EARTH TODAY, is His SPIRITUAL KINGDOM, not limited to any geographic or material place on earth today. His spiritual Kingdom today is in our HEARTS AND MINDS as we in Christ represent foundation stones in His Temple of The SPIRIT. But there also WILL BE A LITERAL PHYSICAL KINGDOM that He will bring when He returns to this earth. And that is why He said His Kingdom is not of this present world.

WHO then... are using that 'Kingdom Now' false theory upon deceived brethren? What is the purpose of that theory? Well, ever hear of a globalist movement called "one world government", or "New World Order"?

Some Christian groups actually believe that Christ's Kingdom came upon this earth at the cross, and that it is our... duty to help Lord Jesus fulfill it, here and now, on earth. Ideas behind... that fulfillment is a ONE-WORLD KINGDOM over ALL NATIONS and PEOPLES, with ONE KING over it all.

But what does God's Word reveal is to happen at the END of this present world?

God's Word teaches that a ONE WORLD BEAST... KINGDOM of ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns is to be setup on earth over ALL NATIONS, and even over us, by Satan the "dragon", and he will reign over ALL NATIONS AND PEOPLES for a period of 42 months at the END (see Revelation 13:4-8). Does that sound... like Christ's Kingdom here on earth to you?!?

No man, nor thing, nor angel, can corrupt Christ's True Church of The Spirit. Because of that future one-world government beast kingdom prophesied to happen at the END of this world prior to Lord Jesus' coming, we should be aware of those deceived who think that Christ's literal Kingdom has already come today.