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“And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed [transfigured] by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.” (Romans 12:2) (KJV 1900)tell us what transfigure means first ......
Taken
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Explain it? I don't have to EXPLAIN God. I simply Recognize WHO God IS...
And already told you...
WILL, WORD, POWER
By which all things were created and made.
Was a mystery, then revealed a long time ago....thus no longer a mystery.
Glory to Thee Lord God Almighty,
Taken
Oh so you "CHANGE" your mind? that's dangerous for you....
now, once again what do "transfigured" mean. Matthew 17:2 "And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light".
drum roll for dave..................
You still come up empty handed trying to prove God is one person. You make Jesus out to be a ventriloquist and a fraudster rather than accept the truth of the trinity.Oh so you "CHANGE" your mind? that's dangerous for you....
now, once again what do "transfigured" mean. Matthew 17:2 "And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light".
drum roll for dave..................
ventriloquist?...lol, you got jokes.
see you got caught with the "God don't Change".. lol.
now you want to "C H A N G E" the subject...
(smile). well be ye "Transform"? 2 Corinthians 11:13 "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2 Corinthians 11:14 "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2 Corinthians 11:15 "Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
now, read Post #21 aqgain.
PICJAG.
You say the Father changes into the Son. Scripture says he is eternally the same, without change.ventriloquist?...lol, you got jokes.
see you got caught with the "God don't Change".. lol.
now you want to "C H A N G E" the subject...
well be ye "Transform"? 2 Corinthians 11:13 "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2 Corinthians 11:14 "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2 Corinthians 11:15 "Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
now, read Post #21 aqgain.
PICJAG.
Looks like you are unable to abandon your confused view of the Godhead.
Why not keep it simple, consistent, and biblical? When someone tries to exclude the Father from the Godhead, he or she is simply asking for trouble.
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of [1] the Father, and of [2] the Son, and of [3] the Holy Ghost (Mt 28:19)
For there are three that bear record in heaven, [1] the Father, [2] the Word, and [3] the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.(1 John 5:7)
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. (John 1:14)
Taken
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No. I have said repeatedly I do not agree with your teaching manner...
Teaching...God..is;
A person in Heaven,
A Human person on Earth,
A Spirit person.
I said very clearly God IS
WILL, WORD, POWER...
I said very clearly WILL, WORD, POWER are called by many names and titles.
I said very clearly all things are Created and Made according
to God; WILL, WORD, POWER.
I clearly see Gods reference to HIS OWN...
WILL, WORD, POWER....
In the Genesis references of "US" and "OUR".
Glory to Thee Lord God Almighty,
Taken
for all those who are still in rejection to the debunking of the three so called persons in the trinity.
#1. None of the trinity believer cannot reconcile John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24.
#2. but here comes Job 33:4 "The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life".
In Isaiah 44:24 it was the LORD/FATHER who made all things. "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself".
in John 1:3 it was the Lord/Son who made all things, "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
here we have all the titles of JESUS
Father, Word, Spirit,
just as 1 John 5:7 states, "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
if anyone is still in rejection, they are either Blind, obtuse, or down right dishonest.
we use Bile to back up what we say. the Spripture don't lie.
there never was a trinity, God is not a trinity, and never will be a trinity.
PICJAG
JESUS is Father, Genesis 1:1 CREATOR, and MAKER of All things. THE "ROOT"
JESUS is Son, John 1:1 "REEDEMER" and "SAVIOUR" of all things.THE "OFFSPRING"
JESUS is the Glorified Spirit, Revelation 1:1, "COMFORTER" amd "MEDIATOR" of all things, Holy Ghost.
yes, JESUS is plural, from the beginning, coming in flesh and blood, to the end, without blood. this is just too easy.
1 Corinthians 12:4 "Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
1 Corinthians 12:5 "And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.1 Corinthians 12:6 "And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
Spirit, Lord Spirit. SAME one, only diversified.
PICJAG.
Plurality in the Godhead OT
“And God (plural) said, Let us (plural) make man in our (plural) image (singular), after our (plural) likeness: and let them (plural) have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man (singular) in his own image (singular), in the image (singular) of God (plural) created he him; male and female created he them.” (Genesis 1:26–27) (KJV 1900)
A human example of plurality;
“And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.” (Genesis 11:4) (KJV 1900)
“And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.” (Genesis 11:3) (KJV 1900)
God as plural again;
God said: “Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.” (Genesis 11:7) (KJV 1900)
I'm going to have to put U in the same broken record box a CI. all that been takenaway. ... lol.
when one has nothing new, they are dead in the water, they have no oars.....
PICJAG.
Then solve the problem of God's plurality in the OT.I'm going to have to put U the same broken record box a CI. all that been takenaway. ... lol.
when one has nothing new, they are dead in the water, they have no oars.....
PICJAG.
did done that, did that read Post #21 again, and Post #53 also. but make sure you go back over the post I made
Just about every thing I posted prove that. but ..........
Now the Manifestation of the Son. ............ the "Second Person, or the Shared Person?"
Is the Lord Jesus the Christ the second PERSON of a trinity, or the the SHARED PERSON of the Godhead? Let’s look at Philippians 2:6-7 again and get a more perfect understanding. “Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God verse 7, But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men". this is the perfect verse that is the heart of the matter. the word used for nature, is the word form. G3444 μορφή morphe, which means “nature”, but if one look further into that word, its root is G3313 μέρος meros (mer'-os). which means, a division, or share. there's our word. Jesus the Christ is the equal “Share”, of God. once I was reading on the internet, a person, who was trying to explain the Godhead, they said that our Lord Jesus is the mirror image of God. well they were close. also, I was watching a debate on you tube, and one of the debaters said that the Lord Jesus was copy of God, as expressed in Hebrews 1:3. again close, but still in error. the one, whom in the doctrine of the trinity, many calls the SECOND PERSON, is really the Share of the ONLY PERSON. not a separate PERSON, but a SHARE of the same person. the so-called mirror image, or the so-called copy? one says mirror, another say copy, but the word of God says “share”. we’re not far apart. the one whom is called the second person of the trinity, is the shared spirit of God in flesh. one old testament supportive scripture to show this, Zechariah 4:6 "Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts”. understand, the LORD have a spirit, and that spirit, small case “s” in spirit, is indicating a human, (spirit) or may we say a lower than an angel, a man. hence our understanding the "Another" nature of God, hence the son, the Lord Jesus. this spirit, is NOT A PERSON who is separate, as in G2087 ἕτερος heteros, which means “another” PERSON of a different sort, or (NATURE). NO, but the Lord Jesus is of the SAME PERSON, only the SHARED, “spirit”, as in Zechariah 4:6, states. the Lord Jesus is the G243 ἄλλος allos (al'-los), “another”, of the SAME sort, or (NATURE), which is clearly stated again in Zechariah 13:7, as God "fellow", or "another".
conclusion. Whom the trinitarians calls their second person of their trinity is no more that the SAHARED spirit of the only true Spirit, “THE HOLY SPIRIT”. the one whom you call second person, is what the word of God calls the SHARED Person, or the OFFSPRING, because he shared himself in flesh. Son is only a title of “THE HOLY SPIRIT” shared in flesh. and Father is only a title of same one HOLY SPIRIT not shared in flesh. hence the term “another”, Allos which expresses a numerical difference (that the plurality of God, the numerical difference, "Father", and "Son"), and denotes another of the same sort. sort meaning nature. ONE GOD, and ONE GOD ONLY, the SAME PERSON, ONLY SHARED, who worketh all in all.
understand people, whom many put last, we make first and ONLY.
PICJAG.
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