What Happened With The Word of God?

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I made this topic several months ago last year. Hopefully today it can finally just stay here.


Hello to you and welcome to this thread, a Bible study.


This is a biblical study of what happened with the Word of God,

In the beginning, there was God (Genesis 1:1-2) the Spirit of God was hovering above the waters. God spoke, Genesis 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. Therefore there is in the beginning, Yahava, with his spoken word, and the Spirit of God hovering above the waters. With God having spoken, if you go to the Gospel of John you find, in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. The Word became flesh and dwelt among the people (John 1:14,) and was born of the overshadowing of the holy spirit upon Mary (Luke 1:15), named Yeshua (Matthew 1:21.) Born under the law (Galatians 4:4-5), and was obedient to death (Philippians 2:7-8.) His second name was Immanuel, (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23) which meant God with us, which meant that God was with them. How? Because Yeshua was the word of God made flesh (Philippians 2:6-11), within the Lord Yeshua and his flesh, was the Word of God (Immanuel.) Yeshua or Jesus went to the cross (Matthew 27:45-54; Mark 15:21-41; Luke 23:26-43; John 19:28:30), the christ with-in the Lord leaves him, and the body of Jesus takes on sin (2 Corinthians 5:21), and Jesus went to Paradise (Luke 23:49-43) with the thief on the cross, in other words Abrahams bosom (Luke 16:19-31), which is a part of sheol, Peter proclaimed that Jesus also went to see those who were in prison part of Sheol (crossing the gap that never could be crossed (1 Peter 3:19), after three nights and three days in the heart of the earth (Matthew 12:40), God rose Jesus up from the dead by the Spirit of God (Romans 8:11.) Yeshua sticks around with his disciples for a little bit longer (Acts 1:1-11) with two people who proclaim that he would come back in the same manner as they saw him having left (Acts 1:10-11.) After a while the Gospel goes out to all the surrounding nations, the tribes of Israel, and even to the Gentile world. Yeshua taught his disciples many times about preparing for his return (Matthew 25:1-12; John 3:29; Matthew 13:24-30;37-43.) Because of this the Apostles also taught that Jesus would come back, Paul wrote to the people in Thessalonica for example, (1 Thessalonica 4:16.) John the beloved, also wrote to sending a message from the Lord Yeshua, that he will be coming back shortly (Revelation 1 - 3.) What happens then? Jesus would have everything placed below his feet (1 Corinthians 15:25-28), that would be mean (Death (Spiritual Death), Hades, Satan, The Beast, the False Prophet), He came and gather his bride (Ephesians 5:27; establishing the Kingdom of God) and Yeshua would give everything back to his Father, that God would be all in all. What happened to the Word of God? Was he replaced back to his former seating? Instead of on the right hand (Colossians 3:1), he is allowed to sit with his Father, (Revelation 3:21.) The one whom sits on the throne is the Lord God Almighty (Revelation 4; Revelation 21:5.)


I don't understand what is wrong with this bible study...

Praise be to the Father in Heaven, who sent (His Word);the Lord Jesus Christ whom overcame all things!
 

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I made this topic several months ago last year. Hopefully today it can finally just stay here.


Hello to you and welcome to this thread, a Bible study.


This is a biblical study of what happened with the Word of God,

In the beginning, there was God (Genesis 1:1-2) the Spirit of God was hovering above the waters. God spoke, Genesis 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. Therefore there is in the beginning, Yahava, with his spoken word, and the Spirit of God hovering above the waters. With God having spoken, if you go to the Gospel of John you find, in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. The Word became flesh and dwelt among the people (John 1:14,) and was born of the overshadowing of the holy spirit upon Mary (Luke 1:15), named Yeshua (Matthew 1:21.) Born under the law (Galatians 4:4-5), and was obedient to death (Philippians 2:7-8.) His second name was Immanuel, (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23) which meant God with us, which meant that God was with them. How? Because Yeshua was the word of God made flesh (Philippians 2:6-11), within the Lord Yeshua and his flesh, was the Word of God (Immanuel.) Yeshua or Jesus went to the cross (Matthew 27:45-54; Mark 15:21-41; Luke 23:26-43; John 19:28:30), the christ with-in the Lord leaves him, and the body of Jesus takes on sin (2 Corinthians 5:21), and Jesus went to Paradise (Luke 23:49-43) with the thief on the cross, in other words Abrahams bosom (Luke 16:19-31), which is a part of sheol, Peter proclaimed that Jesus also went to see those who were in prison part of Sheol (crossing the gap that never could be crossed (1 Peter 3:19), after three nights and three days in the heart of the earth (Matthew 12:40), God rose Jesus up from the dead by the Spirit of God (Romans 8:11.) Yeshua sticks around with his disciples for a little bit longer (Acts 1:1-11) with two people who proclaim that he would come back in the same manner as they saw him having left (Acts 1:10-11.) After a while the Gospel goes out to all the surrounding nations, the tribes of Israel, and even to the Gentile world. Yeshua taught his disciples many times about preparing for his return (Matthew 25:1-12; John 3:29; Matthew 13:24-30;37-43.) Because of this the Apostles also taught that Jesus would come back, Paul wrote to the people in Thessalonica for example, (1 Thessalonica 4:16.) John the beloved, also wrote to sending a message from the Lord Yeshua, that he will be coming back shortly (Revelation 1 - 3.) What happens then? Jesus would have everything placed below his feet (1 Corinthians 15:25-28), that would be mean (Death (Spiritual Death), Hades, Satan, The Beast, the False Prophet), He came and gather his bride (Ephesians 5:27; establishing the Kingdom of God) and Yeshua would give everything back to his Father, that God would be all in all. What happened to the Word of God? Was he replaced back to his former seating? Instead of on the right hand (Colossians 3:1), he is allowed to sit with his Father, (Revelation 3:21.) The one whom sits on the throne is the Lord God Almighty (Revelation 4; Revelation 21:5.)


I don't understand what is wrong with this bible study...

Praise be to the Father in Heaven, who sent (His Word);the Lord Jesus Christ whom overcame all things!
Well other than being one disjointed paragraph. I t has false premises.

Jesus was, is and will always be the word of God. He is as divine as His Father and eternal as His Father.

Now He resides in heaven as the firstfruits of the resurrection as well With a glorified, immoortal human body.
 

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Did you actually take time to read it, and dissect on the written work?
 

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It's interesting that God's Word became flesh, suffered in that flesh, and died on the cross, in order for his shed blood to be shed for the entire world in order for it to be saved, while the while establishing the Kingdom of Heaven for anyone whom desires to be part of it can do so by believing in the Lord Jesus, the Christ, whom died on the cross, was risen again by the Father in heaven, through the holy spirit rising the Lord Yeshua back up from the grave. Radical stuff.
 
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I made this topic several months ago last year. Hopefully today it can finally just stay here.


Hello to you and welcome to this thread, a Bible study.


This is a biblical study of what happened with the Word of God,

In the beginning, there was God (Genesis 1:1-2) the Spirit of God was hovering above the waters. God spoke, Genesis 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. Therefore there is in the beginning, Yahava, with his spoken word, and the Spirit of God hovering above the waters. With God having spoken, if you go to the Gospel of John you find, in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. The Word became flesh and dwelt among the people (John 1:14,) and was born of the overshadowing of the holy spirit upon Mary (Luke 1:15), named Yeshua (Matthew 1:21.) Born under the law (Galatians 4:4-5), and was obedient to death (Philippians 2:7-8.) His second name was Immanuel, (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23) which meant God with us, which meant that God was with them. How? Because Yeshua was the word of God made flesh (Philippians 2:6-11), within the Lord Yeshua and his flesh, was the Word of God (Immanuel.) Yeshua or Jesus went to the cross (Matthew 27:45-54; Mark 15:21-41; Luke 23:26-43; John 19:28:30), the christ with-in the Lord leaves him, and the body of Jesus takes on sin (2 Corinthians 5:21), and Jesus went to Paradise (Luke 23:49-43) with the thief on the cross, in other words Abrahams bosom (Luke 16:19-31), which is a part of sheol, Peter proclaimed that Jesus also went to see those who were in prison part of Sheol (crossing the gap that never could be crossed (1 Peter 3:19), after three nights and three days in the heart of the earth (Matthew 12:40), God rose Jesus up from the dead by the Spirit of God (Romans 8:11.) Yeshua sticks around with his disciples for a little bit longer (Acts 1:1-11) with two people who proclaim that he would come back in the same manner as they saw him having left (Acts 1:10-11.) After a while the Gospel goes out to all the surrounding nations, the tribes of Israel, and even to the Gentile world. Yeshua taught his disciples many times about preparing for his return (Matthew 25:1-12; John 3:29; Matthew 13:24-30;37-43.) Because of this the Apostles also taught that Jesus would come back, Paul wrote to the people in Thessalonica for example, (1 Thessalonica 4:16.) John the beloved, also wrote to sending a message from the Lord Yeshua, that he will be coming back shortly (Revelation 1 - 3.) What happens then? Jesus would have everything placed below his feet (1 Corinthians 15:25-28), that would be mean (Death (Spiritual Death), Hades, Satan, The Beast, the False Prophet), He came and gather his bride (Ephesians 5:27; establishing the Kingdom of God) and Yeshua would give everything back to his Father, that God would be all in all. What happened to the Word of God? Was he replaced back to his former seating? Instead of on the right hand (Colossians 3:1), he is allowed to sit with his Father, (Revelation 3:21.) The one whom sits on the throne is the Lord God Almighty (Revelation 4; Revelation 21:5.)


I don't understand what is wrong with this bible study...

Praise be to the Father in Heaven, who sent (His Word);the Lord Jesus Christ whom overcame all things!
Yahava??? Which translation are you citing? Yours?
 

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Do you have anything else to question besides, Yahavah, @Jack? Did you read all what was in the written work? What did you think of it?
 
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Do you have anything else to question besides, Yahavah, @Jack? Did you read all what was in the written work? What did you think of it?
IOW, you don't have a clue about "Yahavah" that you are obsessed with! Give us a Bible verse with "Yahavah"! You can't even find one??? This is the "Bible Study Forum"! Give us some Bible!
 
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IOW, you don't have a clue about "Yahavah" that you are obsessed with! Give us a Bible verse with "Yahavah"! You can't even find one??? This is the "Bible Study Forum"! Give us some Bible!

It's all over the Hebrew Bible, starting with Exodus 3:15. You tell me. How do you pronounce the name יהוה?

KJV translates it "Jehovah" in Exodus 6:3, Psalm 83:18, Isaiah 12:2, and Isaiah 26:4, even though Hebrew doesn't have the "J" sound. Matthew's "Y" is a better transliteration of the Hebrew "Yodh" sound than KJV's "J". Is "Jehovah" your preferred pronunciation, Jack? Can I get a Witness?
 
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He came and gather his bride (Ephesians 5:27; establishing the Kingdom of God) and Yeshua would give everything back to his Father, that God would be all in all. What happened to the Word of God? Was he replaced back to his former seating?
Just kind of isolating this part, because it seems to be the crux of your post. Didn't see any reason for your post to have been taken down. You're asking a good question, but I think it might be hard to fathom.

After His resurrection and because of glorifying the Father by His life and obedience unto death, Jesus was "given" all power/authority in heaven and earth and a name that is "above" every name. I believe that means the Father elevated and gave Jesus all His power and authority to rule and reign and act as God in His own right without depending on the Father so to speak, like He was during His days on earth. In this way the Father glorified the Son.

In the end Jesus will return the favour so to speak and glorify the Father again by giving Him back all the power and authority and submitting to Him again as being greater. It's like they love and glorify each other selflessly, not considering equality with each other, with God, something to be grasped. The reason I'm thinking this way is because I heard someone give a prophetic word once and it's hard to explain but it was like the Holy Spirit was so lovingly and selflessly glorifying God, it was so beautiful, like that is all He exists for and loves to do. And now this gives me a sense that the Father and Son exist to glorify one another. I don't know that this is a complete answer or a complete understanding, but to me it is a picture and demonstration of God's utter goodness and selflessness. It's as though there needs to be more than one part of Himself in order to manifest/demonstrate the utter goodness of His nature fully. Scripture speaks in a few places of the Son glorifying the Father and the Father glorifying the Son.
 
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Don’t know about all that @Lizbeth. I read your writing but see a different side via scripture.
 
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I made this topic several months ago last year. Hopefully today it can finally just stay here.


Hello to you and welcome to this thread, a Bible study.


This is a biblical study of what happened with the Word of God,

In the beginning, there was God (Genesis 1:1-2) the Spirit of God was hovering above the waters. God spoke, Genesis 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. Therefore there is in the beginning, Yahava, with his spoken word, and the Spirit of God hovering above the waters. With God having spoken, if you go to the Gospel of John you find, in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. The Word became flesh and dwelt among the people (John 1:14,) and was born of the overshadowing of the holy spirit upon Mary (Luke 1:15), named Yeshua (Matthew 1:21.) Born under the law (Galatians 4:4-5), and was obedient to death (Philippians 2:7-8.) His second name was Immanuel, (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23) which meant God with us, which meant that God was with them. How? Because Yeshua was the word of God made flesh (Philippians 2:6-11), within the Lord Yeshua and his flesh, was the Word of God (Immanuel.) Yeshua or Jesus went to the cross (Matthew 27:45-54; Mark 15:21-41; Luke 23:26-43; John 19:28:30), the christ with-in the Lord leaves him, and the body of Jesus takes on sin (2 Corinthians 5:21), and Jesus went to Paradise (Luke 23:49-43) with the thief on the cross, in other words Abrahams bosom (Luke 16:19-31), which is a part of sheol, Peter proclaimed that Jesus also went to see those who were in prison part of Sheol (crossing the gap that never could be crossed (1 Peter 3:19), after three nights and three days in the heart of the earth (Matthew 12:40), God rose Jesus up from the dead by the Spirit of God (Romans 8:11.) Yeshua sticks around with his disciples for a little bit longer (Acts 1:1-11) with two people who proclaim that he would come back in the same manner as they saw him having left (Acts 1:10-11.) After a while the Gospel goes out to all the surrounding nations, the tribes of Israel, and even to the Gentile world. Yeshua taught his disciples many times about preparing for his return (Matthew 25:1-12; John 3:29; Matthew 13:24-30;37-43.) Because of this the Apostles also taught that Jesus would come back, Paul wrote to the people in Thessalonica for example, (1 Thessalonica 4:16.) John the beloved, also wrote to sending a message from the Lord Yeshua, that he will be coming back shortly (Revelation 1 - 3.) What happens then? Jesus would have everything placed below his feet (1 Corinthians 15:25-28), that would be mean (Death (Spiritual Death), Hades, Satan, The Beast, the False Prophet), He came and gather his bride (Ephesians 5:27; establishing the Kingdom of God) and Yeshua would give everything back to his Father, that God would be all in all. What happened to the Word of God? Was he replaced back to his former seating? Instead of on the right hand (Colossians 3:1), he is allowed to sit with his Father, (Revelation 3:21.) The one whom sits on the throne is the Lord God Almighty (Revelation 4; Revelation 21:5.)


I don't understand what is wrong with this bible study...

Praise be to the Father in Heaven, who sent (His Word);the Lord Jesus Christ whom overcame all things!
ALL GOOD
 

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It's all over the Hebrew Bible, starting with Exodus 3:15. You tell me. How do you pronounce the name יהוה?

KJV translates it "Jehovah" in Exodus 6:3, Psalm 83:18, Isaiah 12:2, and Isaiah 26:4, even though Hebrew doesn't have the "J" sound. Matthew's "Y" is a better transliteration of the Hebrew "Yodh" sound than KJV's "J". Is "Jehovah" your preferred pronunciation, Jack? Can I get a Witness?
So you're a Hebrew expert and all of our English Bibles are wrong??? Please provide your credentials!
 

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Yeshua, that he will be coming back shortly (Revelation 1 - 3.) What happens then? Jesus would have everything placed below his feet (1 Corinthians 15:25-28), that would be mean (Death (Spiritual Death), Hades, Satan, The Beast, the False Prophet), He came and gather his bride (Ephesians 5:27; establishing the Kingdom of God) and Yeshua would give everything back to his Father, that God would be all in all. What happened to the Word of God? Was he replaced back to his former seating? Instead of on the right hand (Colossians 3:1), he is allowed to sit with his Father, (Revelation 3:21.) The one whom sits on the throne is the Lord God Almighty (Revelation 4; Revelation 21:5.)


I don't understand what is wrong with this bible study...

Praise be to the Father in Heaven, who sent (His Word);the Lord Jesus Christ whom overcame all things!
What is wrong...was and is the total disregard and unbelief, that He would actually return "shortly" (Revelation 1:1 and 22:6).

Which was the predictable response of natural men of flesh and blood, that then began to explain that truth from Jesus away, developing their own false and destructive doctrines causing strong delusion, great apostacy, and a falling away (just as foretold).

And even now, after 2,000 years of study--still, most if any, do not want to believe what Jesus actually said.
 

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Life is like the blink of an eye! Yes Jesus will return shortly. He gave us plenty of warnings!
 

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God is a Spirit. Which is how Jesus, who was God or,the word made flesh,appeared in the upper room to his Apostles after his crucifixion.

Jesus does not have an immortal human body in Heaven.

God created human bodies from the dust of the Earth. God would not have a glorified human body form in Heaven when He is and always has been the Holy Spirit.

When Jesus ascended back to Heaven His Disciples saw the man they knew as Jesus.

However, when Mary had gone to the tomb where Jesus was laid to rest snd after finding the tomb empty she saw a man nearby. One she did not recognize. Even though she later realized it was Jesus. That other man was also a manifestation by,of,God.

The Bible definition of glory applies there.

dictionary/glory/

The glorified body of Jesus at ascension refers to the manifestation of God by God. And so that His Apostles would recognize their master fulfilling what He had taught regarding his immortality.

It didn't mean the material flesh of the human man Jesus was ascending to Heaven.

When Scripture tells us God is a Spirit, Jesus being God is Spirit. In Heaven.

The glorified body of Jesus manifestation Disciples witnessed was for their understanding.

God manifested as their Messiah so to show them Jesus' teaching was true. That His Gospel and Salvation give eternal life.

The Jesus they saw die on the cross would have remained in the tomb had he been a mere mortal who died. God manifesting as Jesus after crucifixion confirmed to those witnesses eternal life in Him through His covenant is true. And the second death is overcome.

If Jesus was God and God is a Spirit then a physical form God made possible as the creator of the human form cannot then be beside Spirit God and sitting beside Him on his right hand in Heaven.

The human form was created for us by God. It need not be by God in Heaven
 

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The LORD Jesus Christ Is Still In Human/Bodily Form, No?:

Yes, Biblically Speaking, According To God's Word Of Truth, After His BODILY Resurrection!:

Before His Ascension [ Notice What Christ Emphasized THRICE! ]:

"Behold MY Hands And My Feet, That It Is I MYSELF: handle ME, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones,​
as ye see ME Have. And When He Had Thus Spoken, He Shewed them His Hands And His Feet."​
(Luke 24:39-40 AV) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Possession, eh?

Scripture Has NO Indication/Confirmation that This "has Ever Changed" - Rather
Notice: "What Saith The Scripture?"

After:
His Ascension:

"For In Him Dwelleth All The Fulness Of The Godhead Bodily." (Colossians 2:9 AV)​
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In His Context Of "...Sanctifying And Cleansing Of His Church By The Washing Of Water By
The Word" *:

"For we are members of His Body, Of His Flesh, And Of His Bones." (Ephesians 5:30 AV)​
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At God's Great GRACE Departure The [ Heavenly ] Body Of Christ, we will Be Changed to "Be LIKE Him"
With "the glory of the celestial body"
(v 40), At bodily resurrection of those "...asleep In Jesus...and the
living Changed To Meet Him In the air..."
(1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 AV):

"Behold, I shew you A Mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the​
twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,​
and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.​
So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall​
be brought to pass the Saying That Is Written, Death is swallowed up in victory." (1 Corinthians 15:51-54 AV)​

Now This BODILY [ hands and feet and flesh and bones!! ] Truth Is NO Longer A Mystery, Correct?

Amen.
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ps: Not so much "what happened to It," But, Rather, What do we "Do With IT," eh?:

Handling The Word Of Life!

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If still not understood, then This Applies, eh?:

"For My Thoughts Are Not your thoughts, Neither Are​
your ways My Ways, Saith The LORD." (Isaiah 55:8 AV)​
And, Amen!