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Ritajanice
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There are people out there that will project, upon others and it's nothing new to me. I've talked with many people over the years, and have also maligned, abused mentally, and cheated people. The only good that is done through me comes by and through the Lord Jesus Christ (the spirit of Christ), its not me I am not righteous by any means. I'm thankful for the Lord Yeshua, because he has changed my heart but I still live in this flesh. I'm not someone who is ignorant to being bullied and picked on. I love you @Ritajanice, and hope the best for you. I don't trust you, so that is that.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
It’s good that you can self reflect.
No, don’t trust me, well said...,only trust the Holy Spirit.
Love you too Mathew...
The fruits of the spirit is one of love. It’s not one of controlling others. It’s allowing others to be; while it helps you be able to have self control in how one may responds. I get on the forum site there are rules; against goading, flaming, harassment and bullying.
While some of those things are enforced sometimes they are slid by. Even so, there are people who favor other people more than others.
A dynamic prevailed in life itself, as well online. I don’t hold anyone here as the superior. Because none of us have any authority as it is. There are those who want people to be a certain way for them in order for them to control you; those are going through dishonest means, and as it was in Paul’s day, people preached Christ out of riveral and selfish means, and some do it out of love and pure motives.
Anyone on this forum site can believe whatever they want; however my empathizes is for people to think and reason and logically decide for themselves. If people believe me or not is not my concern…
My concern is their growth; maturity; which ultimately leads us to love people. So many people want to use scripture to battle and say this is right and the other is wrong. This leads to discord which is of the flesh, and probably a sin noted in the Old Testament.
While I know we don’t live by those Old Testament laws; one of those laws was if you have a son who is a drunkard, and slothful doesn’t care about the family; they were to be taken outside the gate and slain…
Well many people typically don’t slay the drunk these days; but they see them as a sinner who needs the Lord; but who knows what is in their heart and what they been through; thus mercy is given in treatment towards them rather than saying “stop drinking you stupid drunk!” Even so we can encourage them to slow down, just as people who do or use drugs and sometimes have to call the law on them for their actions.
Their sin is paid for and taken care of… and we are to do everything in love.
However if a person only cares about what doctrine is right or wrong; they are disregarding love all together taught in 1 Corinthians 13. Patience, kindness. Not undermining, or trying to project things which are assumptions…
That is a terrible way to communicate and it’s earthly ; not heavenly.
All the best!
While some of those things are enforced sometimes they are slid by. Even so, there are people who favor other people more than others.
A dynamic prevailed in life itself, as well online. I don’t hold anyone here as the superior. Because none of us have any authority as it is. There are those who want people to be a certain way for them in order for them to control you; those are going through dishonest means, and as it was in Paul’s day, people preached Christ out of riveral and selfish means, and some do it out of love and pure motives.
Anyone on this forum site can believe whatever they want; however my empathizes is for people to think and reason and logically decide for themselves. If people believe me or not is not my concern…
My concern is their growth; maturity; which ultimately leads us to love people. So many people want to use scripture to battle and say this is right and the other is wrong. This leads to discord which is of the flesh, and probably a sin noted in the Old Testament.
While I know we don’t live by those Old Testament laws; one of those laws was if you have a son who is a drunkard, and slothful doesn’t care about the family; they were to be taken outside the gate and slain…
Well many people typically don’t slay the drunk these days; but they see them as a sinner who needs the Lord; but who knows what is in their heart and what they been through; thus mercy is given in treatment towards them rather than saying “stop drinking you stupid drunk!” Even so we can encourage them to slow down, just as people who do or use drugs and sometimes have to call the law on them for their actions.
Their sin is paid for and taken care of… and we are to do everything in love.
However if a person only cares about what doctrine is right or wrong; they are disregarding love all together taught in 1 Corinthians 13. Patience, kindness. Not undermining, or trying to project things which are assumptions…
That is a terrible way to communicate and it’s earthly ; not heavenly.
All the best!
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Hello to you....
Did you not read my post?
Here's part of what I stated:
You could believe whatever you wish to believe and I'm not here to judge you or anyone else.
However, If you don't believe in the Trinity....what makes you think you're a Christian?
You see M,,,it's the rest of my post that was important.
The Trinity is once again permitted on this site.
I'm sorry about this....but whatever the owner wants is what will be.
There are various and sundry ways for the topic of the Trinity to be discussed.
You've chosen one of them: Can we be saved and not believe in the Trinity.
Then you made the comment that you do not believe in this Christian doctrine...
and so you opened up the thread to go beyond what you might have meant it to.
My post to you stands.
It's like this:
If you want to work for Google,
and they required that you wear a red tie every day,
then you must wear a red tie every day,
or you cannot work for them.
Christianity teaches the Trinity, among other doctrine.
If you want to be defined as Christian,,,there are a set of beliefs
you must share or you cannot define yourself as Christian.
It's easy.
This came up when I posted REPLY.
So, according to you....a person can believe whatever they want to and still be called a Christian.
You say we are not to care about doctrine.
Is it OK if we don't believe in the resurrection?
If a man accepts everything,
then he believes in nothing.
(not mine but I can't remember who said it).
Hello @GodsGrace,
Have I discouraged for people to not think for themselves? Have I discouraged the Bible being viable? Have I discouraged for people to seek the Father in spirit and in truth?
While doctrine is helpful? It doesn’t mean that we are not to love human beings by the power of the Holy Spirit within us, or the Spirit of Christ within us.
You can debate and suggest the trinity is something taught in the Bible; a great mystery some say that is incomprehensible (people debate it all the time.) By all means believe that.
If you suggest that the trinity doctrine makes people right with God. I simple would not believe those statements. If you want to continue to drive home your conclusions that the trinity makes people right with God, go ahead and do so. I love you either way and hope the best for you, it’s not what you desire to hear, and that’s perfectly fine with me.
Have I discouraged for people to not think for themselves? Have I discouraged the Bible being viable? Have I discouraged for people to seek the Father in spirit and in truth?
While doctrine is helpful? It doesn’t mean that we are not to love human beings by the power of the Holy Spirit within us, or the Spirit of Christ within us.
You can debate and suggest the trinity is something taught in the Bible; a great mystery some say that is incomprehensible (people debate it all the time.) By all means believe that.
If you suggest that the trinity doctrine makes people right with God. I simple would not believe those statements. If you want to continue to drive home your conclusions that the trinity makes people right with God, go ahead and do so. I love you either way and hope the best for you, it’s not what you desire to hear, and that’s perfectly fine with me.
Did you change your avatar?
Did I state anything about the Trinity making anybody right with God?
Is my English waning?
Could you PLEASE read my post again and MAYBE you could reply to my actual post instead of to what you THINK I posted.
I think it's vitally important that you understand what I stated since it's not my place to know if any person is right with God or is not right with God.
Hello @GodsGrace,
What is your questions? All I know is this is a great material gift that we have.
All the best.
What is your questions? All I know is this is a great material gift that we have.
All the best.
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No questions MatthewG.
I did want to know if you changed your avatar.
I might be getting you mixed up with a different member.
Hello @GodsGrace,
Okay. I have a new photo of myself now, my avatar. The old one was me standing in the middle of the photo looking up.
Okay. I have a new photo of myself now, my avatar. The old one was me standing in the middle of the photo looking up.
Ronald Nolette
Well-Known Member
To reject teh trinity is to reject who God is and thus you are in essence worshipping a false god.
If Jesus is not god, He could not be a savior.
Hello @Ronald Nolette,
That sounds like an opinion when you say “to reject the trinity is to reject God.” Can you show me a verse which states that? This has nothing to do with Jesus having been the Word of God being born of spirit and of flesh named Jesus and Emmanuel “God with us.”
That sounds like an opinion when you say “to reject the trinity is to reject God.” Can you show me a verse which states that? This has nothing to do with Jesus having been the Word of God being born of spirit and of flesh named Jesus and Emmanuel “God with us.”
Ronald Nolette
Well-Known Member
Well it is rejecting who the one true God is!
Jesus is just as much God as HIs Father, and the Holy Spirit is just as much God as the Father and son. so, to deny that either or both the Son and Spirit are not God are to reject who God is.
It would be the same for exam[ple, if you were married and had three children. to reject your three children as part of your family is to reject who your family is.
Hello @Ronald Nolette,
People gotta read the Bible to figure it out. It’s the only thing which helps renew the mind.
People gotta read the Bible to figure it out. It’s the only thing which helps renew the mind.
Ronald Nolette
Well-Known Member
Well of course! We cannot hope to know god and His will apart freom Scripture and the teaching of the pastor/teacher gift ministry.
It still doesn't look like the trinity saves anyone. Why do you think so many people spend so much time on such a doctrine? Perhaps old-fashioned tradition is what does is and does what it does. When people say you "must" doesn't always mean you "must."
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