22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

[WPM]

In the Millennial period, the Levites will offer sacrifices because offering sacrifices marks them as his holy people.

Granted, the Levitical sacrifices could not put away sin. And YET, God instituted them anyway. Your view can not account for this. Did God make a mistake? Or could it be that you don't understand the actual, intended meaning of them? I don't think you do.

Cutting the throats of innocent animals in the age to come renders these Christ-rejecting religious actors "holy people"??? Where do you get this nonsense? Who writes your script for you? This is absolute baloney! Where is your NT support for this nonsense? Nowhere! You make it up as you go. By doing this, you direct your disciples away from Jesus Christ and the final work He did on the cross. That is not enough for you. It wasn't satisfactory enough for you. You need more sin offerings.

This is a bloody mess. Think about the risen Christ and the glorified saints being forced to watch this religious sham of blood-letting for 1,000 years+. It is totally unthinkable. It couldn't more conflict with the new covenant teaching.

What is the purpose of these animal sacrifices? Why will you not tell us? It is because you have no NT support. You are (again) fighting with the Word of God. That is what your theology produces.

The reality is, one can search the New Testament pages, but can search Revelation 20 from start to finish, and there is not the slightest allowance for such a religious sham in the presence of Jesus in the age to come. They will never happen, neither for atonement or memorial. This is a Premil invention. It is never going to happen! Christ was the final sacrifice for sin. It is finished!

 

[WPM]

where there is forgiveness there is no more offering. I also agree with David, who said, "For You do not delight in sacrifice, otherwise I would give it; You are not pleased with burnt offering. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; A broken and a contrite heart, O God, You will not despise." In that same Psalm he also said, "By Your favor do good to Zion; Build the walls of Jerusalem. Then You will delight in righteous sacrifices, In burnt offering and whole burnt offering; Then young bulls will be offered on Your altar." The man who said that God did not delight in burnt offerings also anticipated a time when righteous sacrifices would be made in Zion." Yes, where there is forgiveness there is no more offering for sin. But where there is righteous sentiment, David and other righteous people will want to make a burnt offering anyway. There are times when God doesn't want a burnt offering and there are times when God delights in them. Psalm 51

So, you are now denying that there is forgiveness of sin through the blood of Jesus Christ. This is getting worse. This is ridiculous! You are digging a massive dark hole for yourself. Why would David want to trust in pointless useless abolished animal sacrifices on the future earth (that cannot take away sin) when he has the eternal blood of Jesus Christ to trust in eternally? Why would he condone the innocent slaughter of lambs and goats in the future when he has Jesus Christ (who is everything)? Why do you make righteouss David part of your future Premil circus? You have him partaking in the slaughter of the innocent as he is in his glorified body on the new earth. This is utter nonsense. It is reprehensible. Your theology undermines Christ, His earthly ministry and His finished work on Calvary. It is an attack on God's truth. It is heretical. It should not be allowed on a Christian forum.

 

[WPM]

I don't reject Hebrews 10:18. I agree with Paul: where there is forgiveness there is no more offering. I also agree with David, who said, "For You do not delight in sacrifice, otherwise I would give it; You are not pleased with burnt offering. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; A broken and a contrite heart, O God, You will not despise." In that same Psalm he also said, "By Your favor do good to Zion; Build the walls of Jerusalem. Then You will delight in righteous sacrifices, In burnt offering and whole burnt offering; Then young bulls will be offered on Your altar." The man who said that God did not delight in burnt offerings also anticipated a time when righteous sacrifices would be made in Zion." Yes, where there is forgiveness there is no more offering for sin. But where there is righteous sentiment, David and other righteous people will want to make a burnt offering anyway. There are times when God doesn't want a burnt offering and there are times when God delights in them. Psalm 51

Again, you mistakenly conflate the Old Covenant with the Law of Moses. While the Law of Moses is a major feature of the Old Covenant, it will also be a major feature of Jeremiah 31:34.

No one is advocating for the resurrection of the Old Covenant.

Of course. Why do you continue to build the strawman? I already told you. In the Millennial period, the Levites will offer sacrifices because offering sacrifices marks them as his holy people.

Granted, the Levitical sacrifices could not put away sin. And YET, God instituted them anyway. Your view can not account for this. Did God make a mistake? Or could it be that you don't understand the actual, intended meaning of them? I don't think you do.

This is exactly why Amillennialists so strongly and passionately resist Premillennialism. Amils believe: where Jesus is, there is forgiveness. Those who do not know Him do not have forgiveness. Those who do have forgiveness. Forgiveness cannot be found in any other. Forgiveness cannot be found in any other transaction apart from the cross of Jesus Christ. We have forgiveness on the grounds of His perfect sacrifice for sin. That does not seem to be enough for you. It does not seem to be adequate enough for you. It does not seem to be final enough for you.

Ephesians 1:7 says, talking about Jesus Christ, “we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace."

Colossians 1:14 agrees: "In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins."

David embraced the cross by faith. This alone is his hope and trust. He requires and desires no other sacrifice.

 

[covenantee]

I do too.

They all led to our grand finale..the KJV.

Just another addition to the list, with its share of errors.

 

[Truth7t7]

The joke is that no one has any proper documented proof of their Jewish ancestry. There are Ethiopians, Nigerians and people from obscure tribes in India, all busy practising Jewish rites, for the purpose of getting out of their basket case countries. To the prosperous State of Israel, where they cause all kinds of problems.
Even the Jews who do have family documents, cannot prove descent from Judah. There were many people who converted to Judaism and joined, becoming Jews.
Bible Prophecy is clear; the nations now present in the holy Land, all face the Lord's Judgment and punishment. Zechariah 1:14-18, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Jeremiah 12:14, Isaiah 29:1-4, +
THEN the Lord's faithful peoples will go to live there, Isaiah 35:1-10, Ezekiel 34:11-16, Romans 9:24-26

I Agree 100%,

 

[Truth7t7]

Ezekiel 45:13-25 proves you wrong.
Note: in verse 20, that the sacrifices are for those who err, make a mistake and for the simple people. Some, not all the sacrifices and offerings.

Your forcefully stated comments, are a direct contradiction to many Prophesies of what will happen in the end times. I suggest that you cease your opinions and carefully study all the scriptures, that do tell us, in great detail; of what God has planned for our future.

All of your scripture quotes above, #4806, are for those people now, who do accept Christ's sacrifice. THEY are forgiven and redeemed.
Other people and in the future Millennium, will need to make offerings as Zechariah 14:16-21 makes abundantly clear.

It's your false claim that Ezekiel chapters 40-46 represents a "Future" temple on this earth "Wrong"

Many Claim Ezekiel Chapters 40-46, Represents A Future Temple In A Millennium On Earth, Is This True?

As clearly shown, Ezekiel Chapter 43 showed the temple "Pattern" to the House of Israel in the Babylonian Captivity let "Them" measure, Ezekiel was instructed to write the ordinances and law in "Their" sight, that "They" keep them, not some future generation as many "Falsely" claim

The temple seen in Ezekiel Chapters 40-46 is nothing more than the 2nd Zerubbabel Temple built 536BC after the Babylonian Captivity, where animal sacrifice for "Sin" was instructed by "God", prior to the shed blood of Jesus Christ on Calvary, don't be deceived

Ezekiel 43:10-11 & 19-21KJV
10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.
11 And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them.

19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord God, a young bullock for a sin offering.
20 And thou shalt take of the blood thereof, and put it on the four horns of it, and on the four corners of the settle, and upon the border round about: thus shalt thou cleanse and purge it.
21 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it in the appointed place of the house, without the sanctuary.

 

[Truth7t7]

The core issue is because you reject so much Old and New Testament climactic Scripture, and because you misinterpret so much Old and New Testament Scripture, it forces you to misapply so much fulfilled Scripture to the future that clearly and contextually relates to an abolished religious system. But you repudiate the interpreting of Scripture with Scripture. This is why you promote so much error. The basis of your approach is:

The very reason why the poster isn't to be taken seriously, complete ignorance on the foundational basics in the study of God's words

"Interpreting scripture with scripture is faulty"?

Way out in left field, out of the ball park, laughable!

Quote CadyandZoe:
Interpreting scripture with scripture is a faulty, unreliable, hermeneutic, leading to all sorts of erroneous doctrines. I would never recommend such a worthless pursuit.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Honestly, I think you are making stuff up about me so that YOU can maintain your doctrine. Where is it taught in scripture? 1 Corinthians 15:50, where else. Come-on work with me here.

What you said in post #4812 is not even remotely taught in 1 Corinthians 15:50! Are you kidding me? Where does that verse remotely say anything to support what you said, which was "But only those who have been transformed from perishable to imperishable can inherit the eternal aspect of the kingdom.".

What you seemed to be indicating in that post is that those who are transformed from perishable to imperishable will "inherit the eternal aspect of the kingdom" while those who are not transformed will inherit the non-eternal aspect of the kingdom. Is that not what you were saying? If it was, then I'm saying that is not taught at all in 1 Corinthians 15:50, so I'm asking you where it is taught in scripture? Pulling that out of 1 Cor 15:50 is as farfetched as it gets. Surely, you would have something to reference that more clearly teaches that concept if it was true.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

So what?

Does the next age being filled with sin and sinners match up with Jesus's description of the next age (age to come)?

Luke 20:34 Jesus replied, “The people of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35 But those who are considered worthy of taking part in the age to come and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage, 36 and they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are God’s children, since they are children of the resurrection.

Jesus indicated that those who are considered worthy of taking part in the age to come (next age) won't get married and they won't die. How can people who won't die commit sins?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Of course. Why do you continue to build the strawman? I already told you. In the Millennial period, the Levites will offer sacrifices because offering sacrifices marks them as his holy people.

Where are you getting this from?

Do you believe the following refers to "the Millennial period"?

Ezekiel 45:15 Also one sheep is to be taken from every flock of two hundred from the well-watered pastures of Israel. These will be used for the grain offerings, burnt offerings and fellowship offerings to make atonement for the people, declares the Sovereign Lord. 16 All the people of the land will be required to give this special offering to the prince in Israel. 17 It will be the duty of the prince to provide the burnt offerings, grain offerings and drink offerings at the festivals, the New Moons and the Sabbaths—at all the appointed festivals of Israel. He will provide the sin offerings, grain offerings, burnt offerings and fellowship offerings to make atonement for the Israelites.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The very reason why the poster isn't to be taken seriously, complete ignorance on the foundational basics in the study of God's words

"Interpreting scripture with scripture is faulty"?

Way out in left field, out of the ball park, laughable!

Quote CadyandZoe:
Interpreting scripture with scripture is a faulty, unreliable, hermeneutic, leading to all sorts of erroneous doctrines. I would never recommend such a worthless pursuit.

That is incredibly foolish on his part. No, to NOT interpret scripture with scripture leads to all sorts of erroneous doctrines. People believe in nonsense like the pre-trib rapture because of not being able to see the direct relationship between scriptures like 1 Thess 4:14-17 and Matthew 24:29-31 (Mark 13:24-27).

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

What is the purpose of these animal sacrifices? Why will you not tell us? It is because you have no NT support. You are (again) fighting with the Word of God. That is what your theology produces.

In the rare times when the Premils who believe in that actually answer that question they say that the sacrifices will be performed in remembrance of Christ's sacrifice and things like that. But, where is that taught in scripture? Nowhere, of course.

To think that animal sacrifices will ever be reinstated is blasphemy. It's a horrible insult to Jesus Christ and what He accomplished on the cross almost 2,000 years ago.

 

[Truth7t7]

In the rare times when the Premils who believe in that actually answer that question they say that the sacrifices will be performed in remembrance of Christ's sacrifice and things like that. But, where is that taught in scripture? Nowhere, of course.

To think that animal sacrifices will ever be reinstated is blasphemy. It's a horrible insult to Jesus Christ and what He accomplished on the cross almost 2,000 years ago.

Isaiah 66:1-4 "Strongly Suggest's" a rebuilt temple and renewed animal sacrifice, but it won't be instructed by or blessed by God, its declared an abomination, evil, and God sends strong delusion

Isaiah 66:1-4KJV
1 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.
4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Isaiah 66:1-4 "Strongly Suggest's" a rebuilt temple and renewed animal sacrifice,

No, it does not.

but it won't be instructed by or blessed by God, its declared, abomination, evil, and God sends strong delusion

Isaiah 66:1-4KJV
1 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.
4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

Where is there any indication here about a rebuilt temple in the future? There isn't. What was said here would have been true of anyone since the time that Christ rendered the temple standing in His day to be desolate. You are making a lot of assumptions about this passage. Anyone who tried to make sacrifices at the temple after His death was ignorant of what His death accomplished and was because "they have chosen their own ways".

You should have something more clear than this to support your view of a future rebuilt temple that is prophesied about in scripture.

 

[Truth7t7]

No, it does not.

Where is there any indication here about a rebuilt temple in the future? There isn't. What was said here would have been true of anyone since the time that Christ rendered the temple standing in His day to be desolate. You are making a lot of assumptions about this passage. Anyone who tried to make sacrifices at the temple after His death was ignorant of what His death accomplished and was because "they have chosen their own ways".

You should have something more clear than this to support your view of a future rebuilt temple that is prophesied about in scripture.

We Disagree

In Isaiah 66:1-4 you see "a temple being built" to God, and animal sacrifice taking place

You don't see a temple being destroyed as your belief in the preterist reformed eschatology 66-70AD would see

Isaiah 66:1-4KJV
1 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.
4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

We Disagree

In Isaiah 66:1-4 you see "a temple being built" to God, and animal sacrifice taking place

No, you see that. I see God asking "where is the house that ye build unto me"? How does that equate to some temple being built in the future? You're making a lot of assumptions here.

You don't see a temple being destroyed as your belief in the preterist reformed eschatology 66-70AD would see

Don't tell me I believe in some "preterist reformed eschatology" when I only agree with a small part of what they believe. I don't agree with their view that passages like Matthew 24:29-31 and Revelation 19:11-21 occurred in 70 AD. So, don't lump me in with them just because I recognize that scripture prophesied the destruction of the temple buildings standing back then.

Isaiah 66:1-4KJV
1 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.
4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

Where does any of this indicate that there would be a physical temple built on earth some time after the year 2022?

You see where we've been talking about the importance of scripture interpreting scripture, so what scripture do you have to support your understanding of Isaiah 66:1-4?

 

[Truth7t7]

No, you see that. I see God asking "where is the house that ye build unto me"? How does that equate to some temple being built in the future? You're making a lot of assumptions here.

Don't tell me I believe in some "preterist reformed eschatology" when I only agree with a small part of what they believe. I don't agree with their view that passages like Matthew 24:29-31 and Revelation 19:11-21 occurred in 70 AD. So, don't lump me in with them just because I recognize that scripture prophesied the destruction of the temple buildings standing back then.

Where does any of this indicate that there would be a physical temple built on earth some time after the year 2022?

You see where we've been talking about the importance of scripture interpreting scripture, so what scripture do you have to support your understanding of Isaiah 66:1-4?

Yes you believe Matthew 24:15 Daniel's AOD & Matthew 24:21 The Great Tribulation took place in 66-70AD Jerusalem, just as reformed preterist eschatology teaches

You move to hide this fact by quoting the second coming seen in Matthew 24:29-30

If the preterist reformed eschatology shoe fits wear it proudly, don't distract from your true teachings and belief

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[Truth7t7]

You see where we've been talking about the importance of scripture interpreting scripture, so what scripture do you have to support your understanding of Isaiah 66:1-4?

Below you see the word "Temple" and the word "Delusion" only two places in my KJV Holy Bible is the word "Delusion" used, both are in association with a "Temple" with 2 Thessalonians 2:4 showing future events that surround the future second coming of Jesus Christ

This "Temple" and "Delusion" are future unfulfilled

2 Thessalonians 2:1-12KJV
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Isaiah 66:1-4KJV
1 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.
4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

 

[WPM]

Below you see the word "Temple" and the word "Delusion" only two places in my KJV Holy Bible is the word "Delusion" used, both are in association with a "Temple" with 2 Thessalonians 2:4 showing future events that surround the future second coming of Jesus Christ

This "Temple" and "Delusion" are future unfulfilled

2 Thessalonians 2:1-12KJV
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Christ is the new covenant temple. He is the final sacrifice for sin. The old covenant is abolished. I am not sure why you are promoting its restoration.

For what purpose? Why would we need it? There was a reason why the curtain was ripped in two. There was a reason the temple was destroyed in AD70. The temple has been rendered redundant. It has been replaced by a better temple.

Daniel 9:26 says: “the people of the prince that shall come (speaking of the Roman soldiers) shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.”

In Daniel 9:27 after predicting that the old covenant would be removed, the angel predicted that God would destroy the temple (the centre-point of the sacrifices) forever. We learn: “for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”

The consummation is the one final future Coming of Christ.

We see the fulfilment of this in Christ’s words in Matthew 23:34-35: “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord (the consummation, as Daniel predicted).”

Christ continues (to remove any ambiguity as to what He was referring to) in Matthew 24:1-2, “And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? Verily I say unto you, there shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.”

This couldn’t be clearer.

What was going to replace the old physical Jewish building in Jerusalem was not something that was restricted to one race but a global spiritual temple that embraced all nations equally.

In John 4:19-20 we see Christ addressing this subject, in response to a statement made by the woman at the well. The woman said to Christ, “Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet. Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.”

Christ responded in vv 21-24, “Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”

What Christ was teaching here was that a new economy was being introduced through His earthly ministry that would forever replace the old. No longer would the worship of the living God be restricted to a natural geographical land-mass or be centred upon a physical temporal brick building built with hands in earthly Jerusalem, rather, it would now be concentrated in a spiritual eternal temple (the redeemed Church) which is spiritual located within the heavenly New Jerusalem. That temple would not be restricted to one physical nation but would be situated throughout all the nations of the world.

Since Christ, the worship of God was no longer restricted to a physical earthly building but rather relocated to an invisible spiritual temple called the Church.

The Jews at the time of Christ, being ignorant and earthly minded, interpreted this statement to mean: He would destroy and rebuild the physical Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. The reading records, “Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?”

However, the next verse exposed their blindness, saying, “But he spake of the temple of his body” (v 21).

Christ spiritualizes the temple here. None could surely dispute this. There were 2 different mindsets in this picture. Christ’s heavenly mind-set presenting the introduction of the new covenant in the form of Himself and the Jews carnal earthly mind-set hankering towards an old inadequate system.

Christ also declared during His ministry, whilst standing in the actual temple, “I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple” (Matthew 12:6). However, the Jews in the main had No comprehension of that glorious statement. To this spiritual Temple would the nations finally find mercy, thus, fulfilling perfectly what the old temple couldn’t. And thus, through Himself (the living Temple), fulfilling Isaiah 2:2 that “all nations shall flow unto it.”

Granted, the temple was central to the Jewish faith. For anyone to intimate in any way that it would be destroyed was viewed as nothing short of blasphemy. However, Christ was redirecting their eyes from the old temporal building – which was an imperfect shadow and type of Himself – and pointing them towards the new all-sufficient eternal temple – in the form of His person. Through His impending death, the temporal temple and its ceremonies would be done away with.

Hebrews 9:11 directly rebukes those who look to an earthly carnal building in modern Israel. It explicitly states, “Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building.”

This is God’s perfect temple today – and it is eternal. This building will never fall, be replaced or share a central place with another.

 

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Christ is the new covenant temple. He is the final sacrifice for sin. The old covenant is abolished. I am not sure why you are promoting its restoration.

Your preaching to the Choir, yes Jesus abolished the old covenant

Your response is establishing the fact Jesus has replaced the old, "I agree" a no brainer, your words are a complete distraction from what is seen in Isaiah 66:1-4 & 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12

You aren't going to remove the words of scripture below that clearly shows a future temple, and the future delusion God will send

Below you see the word "Temple" and the word "Delusion" only two places in my KJV Holy Bible is the word "Delusion" used, both are in association with a "Temple" with 2 Thessalonians 2:4 showing future events that surround the future second coming of Jesus Christ

This "Temple" and "Delusion" are future unfulfilled

2 Thessalonians 2:1-12KJV
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Isaiah 66:1-4KJV
1 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.
4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.