JESUS, the Holy Spirit, the Only True God.

[101G]

I see only darkness you are spewing. Anyone who says that Jesus isn't the Son of God is a messenger of Satan.

John 20:31 (NKJV)
31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

First thanks for the reply, and second, lets what you said is true. we say "JESUS" is the Father and the Son. as I put to Ronald David Bruno, so I put forth to you.

in Isaiah 45:12 "I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded."
now kcnalp, is this Jesus the Son, or Jesus the Father...... YIKES

remember, John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." THIS IS THE ONE WHOM YOU CALL GOD, THE "SON", RIGHT.

now this, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;" now kcnalp, is this the one whom you call the "FATHER", who is "LORD", all caps, or is this the "Son?"

and remember, Isaiah 45:12a "I have made the earth, and created man upon it" who is the creator of Man on the EARTH. well lets see, the Father, or the Son? answer, Matthew 19:1 "And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these sayings, he departed from Galilee, and came into the coasts of Judaea beyond Jordan;"
Matthew 19:2 "And great multitudes followed him; and he healed them there."
Matthew 19:3 "The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?"
Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female," but was it not Jesus the Son who made "ALL THINGS", according John 1:3 ....... YIKES!

now, do you still want to keep that ignorant saying going?...... lol.

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101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[user]

First thanks for the reply, and second, lets what you said is true. we say "JESUS" is the Father and the Son. as I put to Ronald David Bruno, so I put forth to you.

in Isaiah 45:12 "I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded."
now kcnalp, is this Jesus the Son, or Jesus the Father...... YIKES

remember, John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." THIS IS THE ONE WHOM YOU CALL GOD, THE "SON", RIGHT.

now this, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;" now kcnalp, is this the one whom you call the "FATHER", who is "LORD", all caps, or is this the "Son?"

and remember, Isaiah 45:12a "I have made the earth, and created man upon it" who is the creator of Man on the EARTH. well lets see, the Father, or the Son? answer, Matthew 19:1 "And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these sayings, he departed from Galilee, and came into the coasts of Judaea beyond Jordan;"
Matthew 19:2 "And great multitudes followed him; and he healed them there."
Matthew 19:3 "The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?"
Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female," but was it not Jesus the Son who made "ALL THINGS", according John 1:3 ....... YIKES!

now, do you still want to keep that ignorant saying going?...... lol.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Looks good!!

Let's compare the following references:

The Lord God is the Creator. Isaiah 42:5.
The Lord Jesus is the Creator. John 1:3-10.

The Lord God said, "I am He." Isaiah 43:10.
The Lord Jesus said, "I am He." John 8:24.

The Lord God is the only Saviour. Isaiah 43:10-11.
The Lord Jesus is the Saviour. Titus 1:4.

The Lord God shall reign forever. Psalms 146:10.
The Lord Jesus reign forever. Luke ‪1:33‬.

The Lord God is the King of Israel. Isaiah 43:15.
The Lord Jesus is the King of Israel. Matt 27:37.

The Lord God is the First and the Last. Isaiah 44:6.
The Lord Jesus is the First and the Last. Revelation 1:8.


Is it possible Jesus is both the Father and the Son? Jesus himself addressed this very question...

Luke 20:41 And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son? [42] And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, [43] Till I make thine enemies thy footstool. [44] David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?

Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.


Jesus is the First and the Last. He is the Alpha and the Omega...

Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

 

[101G]

Looks good!!

Let's compare the following references:

The Lord God is the Creator. Isaiah 42:5.
The Lord Jesus is the Creator. John 1:3-10.

The Lord God said, "I am He." Isaiah 43:10.
The Lord Jesus said, "I am He." John 8:24.

The Lord God is the only Saviour. Isaiah 43:10-11.
The Lord Jesus is the Saviour. Titus 1:4.

The Lord God shall reign forever. Psalms 146:10.
The Lord Jesus reign forever. Luke ‪1:33‬.

The Lord God is the King of Israel. Isaiah 43:15.
The Lord Jesus is the King of Israel. Matt 27:37.

The Lord God is the First and the Last. Isaiah 44:6.
The Lord Jesus is the First and the Last. Revelation 1:8.


Is it possible Jesus is both the Father and the Son? Jesus himself addressed this very question...

Luke 20:41 And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son? [42] And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, [43] Till I make thine enemies thy footstool. [44] David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?

Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.


Jesus is the First and the Last. He is the Alpha and the Omega...

Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

User..... I'm going to run you outta here, ... (smile)... lol. BINGO, 100% correct. may we add just a couple more to this reference list.

how about Governor?

The "LORD", Psalms 22:28 "For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations."
the "Lord", Matthew 2:6 "And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel."
now one might say, well this could be any Governor, well lets see... in response to this, this Governor was foretold, Micah 5:2 "But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting."
a. this term "ruler" here means "Governor", for it's the Hebrew word, H4910 מָשַׁל mashal (maw-shal') v.
to rule.
[a primitive root]
KJV: (have, make to have) dominion, governor, X indeed, reign, (bear, cause to, have) rule(-ing, -r), have power.

and notice, Micah said that this ruler/Governor is, "whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting." now who is the verelasting one? Bingo, user you Got it.

how about the "Rock"
the Lord, 1 Corinthians 10:4 "And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ." the Rock is Christ? lets see who the Rock is,
Deuteronomy 32:3 "Because I will publish the name of the LORD: ascribe ye greatness unto our God."Deuteronomy 32:4 "He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he."
there is only one God, and Jesus is both LORD, and Lord.... Psalm 110:1..... BINGO. there he IS "JESUS

user, ... my, my, my, you're going to make me shout.


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101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[JunChosen]

Thanks for the reply, I agree totally. christians at times, just mistakenly don't understand the "diversity", or the First and the Last, or the beginning and the end, or the aleph and the tav, or the alpha and the omega .... of....of.....of.....of ... GOD, who is both LORD all cap, (Spirit), and Lord, (spirit) in flesh. I use to be the same way, not understanding, which lead to not KNOWING, which brought confusion.

I'm afraid it is you who DO NOT understand the above because you are actually describing a God who subsists as three distinct persons in the Godhead (Ge. 1:1, 26; Deut. 6:4), as per the teaching of Holy Writ!

when the bible say things, when he spoke, like "my Father", when in reality he's saying my undiversified Spirit in heaven, or when the Father say, from heaven, "my Son", when in fact, he's saying, my "diversified" Body on Earth. when I learned, and UNDERSTOOD this, as the apostle Paul said by the Holy Ghost, ",I put away childish things".

Sorry to disagree, the Bible does not teach the above. Your understanding of Scripture again is faulty and warped.

WHO IS THIS GOD?
Well, He is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, three distinct persons but subsisting as one God!

but it takes time for one to come to this knowledge, and when they lean .... not to their "own" understanding, in which they was taught, but in the knowledge of God Holy Word, then the bible become so easy to understand.

However, to some, knowledge and understanding of Scripture (1 Co.12:3(b) comes by burning the midnight oil.

The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the the Holy Ghost be with you all. Amen 2 Corinthians 13:14

Tell me, is the above verse, Scripture or not? If you agree, why then do you not believe it?

To God Be The Glory

 

[101G]

I'm afraid it is you who DO NOT understand the above because you are actually describing a God who subsists as three distinct persons in the Godhead (Ge. 1:1, 26; Deut. 6:4), as per the teaching of Holy Writ!

First thanks for the reply, second, error, we suggest you read in the topic, Genesis 1:26 Revisited, the Ordinal “FIRST” post #409.

but to clear you up on Deut. 6:4, it's ONE "LORD", and not one God in Identification, listen, Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:" God is ONE as the ordinal "First, see it? I guess not, but we'll help you out, and point out your mistake. the word "ONE" there in Deuteronomy 6:4, is the Hebrew word,
H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258

where you make your mistake, as well as most scholars is when they read the first definition, and go with that, a deadly sin in UNDERSTANDING. and that's where you make the ERROR at, the truth is in the second definition. the Ordinal "FIRST" as in the First and the Last.... beginning to see it now. understand Jesus is the First and the Last, the same one person who is the Father and the son, there is no three distinct persons in the Godhead, that's nonesense, there is only one person "Diversified" or in Layman terms "the EQUAL SHARE" of himself in flesh. just as Philippians 2:6 states, "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" BEING, is presrnt tense, and get this God has no equal. and if Jesus is "EQUAL" ... "with" ... there's out word, "with" as in the First "with" the Last who is the same one Person. remember the scripture, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." the first "with" the Last, as in John 1:1 the Word "with" God, well Isaiah clear up the "With" in John 1:1 and the "With" in Phil 2:6 and the "with" in Isaiah 41:4....
LISTEN, Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." bingo, I, I, I, a single person designation. when the Word in John 1:1 was "with" God, John also said, "and was God" BINGO... he was not lying. and in Phil 2:6 when the apostle said, "being equal WITH God, he was Not lying, for he is God, has no separate EQUAL from himself. but EQUALLY "shared" in flesh.... my oh my BINGO. how clear can the bible get? it's in black and white..... JUST READ YOUR BIBLES "WITH" THE HOLY SPIRIT.... GOD ALMIGHTY... "JESUS". ... YIKES!.

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101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[kcnalp]

First thanks for the reply, and second, lets what you said is true. we say "JESUS" is the Father and the Son. as I put to Ronald David Bruno, so I put forth to you.

in Isaiah 45:12 "I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded."
now kcnalp, is this Jesus the Son, or Jesus the Father...... YIKES

remember, John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." THIS IS THE ONE WHOM YOU CALL GOD, THE "SON", RIGHT.

now this, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;" now kcnalp, is this the one whom you call the "FATHER", who is "LORD", all caps, or is this the "Son?"

and remember, Isaiah 45:12a "I have made the earth, and created man upon it" who is the creator of Man on the EARTH. well lets see, the Father, or the Son? answer, Matthew 19:1 "And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these sayings, he departed from Galilee, and came into the coasts of Judaea beyond Jordan;"
Matthew 19:2 "And great multitudes followed him; and he healed them there."
Matthew 19:3 "The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?"
Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female," but was it not Jesus the Son who made "ALL THINGS", according John 1:3 ....... YIKES!

now, do you still want to keep that ignorant saying going?...... lol.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Anyone who says that Jesus isn't the Son of God is a messenger of Satan.

John 20:31 (NKJV)
31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

 

[user]

Anyone who says that Jesus isn't the Son of God is a messenger of Satan.

John 20:31 (NKJV)
31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

Yes Jesus is the Son of God...

Romans 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
Romans 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:


Jesus is also the Almighty manifest in the flesh...

Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.


Jesus is a type of New Testament Tabernacle...

St. John 14:10 records Jesus saying, "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The WORDS that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that DWELLETH IN ME, he doeth the works.

2 Corinthians 5:19 "To wit, that God was IN CHRIST, reconciling the world unto Himself..."


God told Moses to make the Old Testament tabernacle with rams' skins dyed red, and a covering above of badgers' skins (Exodus 26:14). From the outside, it was not particularity beautiful. Jesus, the New Tabernacle, is not a man of outer beauty that we should desire him...

Isaiah 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.


When the priest was in the Holy Place, and about to enter into the Holiest Of Holies, he knew God was on the other side of the Veil. The New Testament tells us that Jesus' flesh, his skin, is the VEIL...

Hebrews 10:19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
[20] By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

 

[101G]

Jesus is also the Almighty manifest in the flesh...

Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

amen, 100% correct. the ordinal First, LORD/Father, and the ordinal Last, Lord/Son. same one person.

Isaiah 45:5 "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:"

BESIDE: 1. at the side of; next to. 2. in addition to; apart from

well that just eliminated any "PERSONS" from the Godhead, for there is only one PERSON.... listen again User is correct with the scriptures, Isaiah 44:8 "Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."

if God, "I", a single person don't know any other "beside" himself. then how can man say it's three persons in the Godhead?

God don't know any nor do I...

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101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[GISMYS_7]

amen, 100% correct. the ordinal First, LORD/Father, and the ordinal Last, Lord/Son. same one person.

Isaiah 45:5 "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:"

BESIDE: 1. at the side of; next to. 2. in addition to; apart from

well that just eliminated any "PERSONS" from the Godhead, for there is only one PERSON.... listen again User is correct with the scriptures, Isaiah 44:8 "Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."

if God, "I", a single person don't know any other "beside" himself. then how can man say it's three persons in the Godhead?

God don't know any nor do I...

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101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Think!!! you are "one" person but three=body,soul, spirit just as the One True God is Father Son and Holy Spirit = the One True GAOD!!!

 

[101G]

Think!!! you are "one" person but three=body,soul, spirit just as the One True God is Father Son and Holy Spirit = the One True GAOD!!!

first thanks for the reply, second, Yes, I am a single person, but my body is not a separate and distinct person, is it? no. and my spirit is not me, it come from God who gave it, scriptuture, Isaiah 42:5 "Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:" and when I, I, I, I, die, that same spirit return to the one who gave is. for the spirit belonges to God, and it's not me.... so who do that leave?.... "me", the I who is a single person.

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101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[kcnalp]

first thanks for the reply, second, Yes, I am a single person, but my body is not a separate and distinct person, is it? no. and my spirit is not me, it come from God who gave it, scriptuture, Isaiah 42:5 "Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:" and when I, I, I, I, die, that same spirit return to the one who gave is. for the spirit belonges to God, and it's not me.... so who do that leave?.... "me", the I who is a single person.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

You deny Jesus is the Son of God. What makes you think Christians want your unBiblical opinions? ONLY Satan's children deny that Jesus is the Son of God! That's why YOU deny Jesus is the Son of God!

 

[101G]

first thanks for the reply, second, if you believe I deny Jesus as the son of God then prove it...... (smile).


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101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[GISMYS_7]

first thanks for the reply, second, Yes, I am a single person, but my body is not a separate and distinct person, is it? no. and my spirit is not me, it come from God who gave it, scriptuture, Isaiah 42:5 "Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:" and when I, I, I, I, die, that same spirit return to the one who gave is. for the spirit belonges to God, and it's not me.... so who do that leave?.... "me", the I who is a single person.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

What AND WHO are you without a body??? sprit?? SOUL??? We like God are three but one!!!

 

[101G]

What AND WHO are you without a body??? sprit?? SOUL??? We like God are three but one!!!

James 2:26

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101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[kcnalp]

first thanks for the reply, second, if you believe I deny Jesus as the son of God then prove it...... (smile).

So, confess here and now that "Jesus is the Son of God". I confess "Jesus is the Son of God"! Can you? Or is Satan keeping you from confessing that Jesus is the Son of God?

 

[user]

So, confess here and now that "Jesus is the Son of God". I confess "Jesus is the Son of God"! Can you? Or is Satan keeping you from confessing that Jesus is the Son of God?

I confess Jesus is the Son. He is also more than that.

Now I don't presume to speak for 101G but a quick review of previous statements seems to indicate he is saying Jesus is the Father much like Clark Kent is superman (although superman is a fictitious character).

John 14:10 "...the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."

Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

 

[101G]

So, confess here and now that "Jesus is the Son of God". I confess "Jesus is the Son of God"! Can you? Or is Satan keeping you from confessing that Jesus is the Son of God?

now watch this, "Jesus is the Christ". did you understand what I just said?

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101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[user]

now watch this, "Jesus is the Christ". did you understand what I just said?

Matthew 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

The Christ (or Messiah) - points out his divinity, and shows his office.
The Son - designates his person.

Keep up the good work.

 

[101G]

Matthew 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

The Christ (or Messiah) - points out his divinity, and shows his office.
The Son - designates his person.

Keep up the good work.

shoo....... hush... be quite ........ let him figure it out..... (smile)...... lol, lol, lol.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[user]

shoo....... hush... be quite ........ let him figure it out..... (smile)...... lol, lol, lol.

lol ... lol ... lol