David in NJ
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How many Persons of the Godhead does Paul speak of in the scriptures you posted?
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Hello @David in NJ,
The truth is here. I’m not gonna go back and forth with you anymore on what makes people right with God.
“And when God counted him as righteous, it wasn’t just for Abraham’s benefit. It was recorded for our benefit, too, assuring us that God will also count us as righteous if we believe in him, the one who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. He was handed over to die because of our sins, and he was raised to life to make us right with God.”
Romans 4:23-25 NLT
“Therefore, since we have been made right in God’s sight by faith, we have peace with God because of what Jesus Christ our Lord has done for us. Because of our faith, Christ has brought us into this place of undeserved privilege where we now stand, and we confidently and joyfully look forward to sharing God’s glory. We can rejoice, too, when we run into problems and trials, for we know that they help us develop endurance. And endurance develops strength of character, and character strengthens our confident hope of salvation. And this hope will not lead to disappointment. For we know how dearly God loves us, because he has given us the Holy Spirit to fill our hearts with his love.”
Romans 5:1-5 NLT
The truth is here. I’m not gonna go back and forth with you anymore on what makes people right with God.
“And when God counted him as righteous, it wasn’t just for Abraham’s benefit. It was recorded for our benefit, too, assuring us that God will also count us as righteous if we believe in him, the one who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. He was handed over to die because of our sins, and he was raised to life to make us right with God.”
Romans 4:23-25 NLT
“Therefore, since we have been made right in God’s sight by faith, we have peace with God because of what Jesus Christ our Lord has done for us. Because of our faith, Christ has brought us into this place of undeserved privilege where we now stand, and we confidently and joyfully look forward to sharing God’s glory. We can rejoice, too, when we run into problems and trials, for we know that they help us develop endurance. And endurance develops strength of character, and character strengthens our confident hope of salvation. And this hope will not lead to disappointment. For we know how dearly God loves us, because he has given us the Holy Spirit to fill our hearts with his love.”
Romans 5:1-5 NLT
amigo de christo
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what many who do not love the truth want to beleive is , PURE TRUE DOCTRINE dont matter .
but IT DOES MATTER . you see what god or what GOD , what christ or what CHRIST we follow SURE DOES MATTER .
CAUSE ONE IS GOD the other is not
ONE IS CHRIST the other is not .
Many want to follow a many path jesus who preaches a fat ol broad road of unbelief and sin .
many want to DENY the ALPHA and OMEGA .
many want a jesus they relate too made in the image of their own making .
BUT i gots to say , THAT AINT JESUS . that is DELUSION .
amigo de christo
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I just have to go ahead and say it .
When thomas kneeled before CHRIST and said MY LORD and MY GOD
he sure wasnt creating a jesus of his own making as many others sure seems to wants to do .
ME thinks folks could learn a lot from ol thomas
BUT THEN ME THINKS FOLKS COULD have learned a LOT had they READ THE BIBLE for themselves
and not sat under MEN who twisted things .
David in NJ
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Hello @amigo de christo,
What I find is that many people just don’t read their Bible. They suggest that you must believe this and that and this plus also believe that Jesus was raised from the dead and only then you will be saved to the kingdom of God. That type of logic doesn’t make sense.
People also love the admiration of other men and people who believe what they do and they slowly start to move away from the Bible as a whole…
I’ve heard it happens to many people, you can encourage them to read the Bible but when it comes down to the brass tax of things they seek out other people for answers.
That’s not right. That’s wrong.
What makes people right with God? It’s faith, that his son Jesus was raised from the dead. That is what starts the process form being spiritually dead to being spiritually alive.
What I find is that many people just don’t read their Bible. They suggest that you must believe this and that and this plus also believe that Jesus was raised from the dead and only then you will be saved to the kingdom of God. That type of logic doesn’t make sense.
People also love the admiration of other men and people who believe what they do and they slowly start to move away from the Bible as a whole…
I’ve heard it happens to many people, you can encourage them to read the Bible but when it comes down to the brass tax of things they seek out other people for answers.
That’s not right. That’s wrong.
What makes people right with God? It’s faith, that his son Jesus was raised from the dead. That is what starts the process form being spiritually dead to being spiritually alive.
amigo de christo
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man i just have to say this again .
Hey david did you ever see an angel that said to any prophet , any man , to jacob or any
I AM ALPHA and OMEGA .
Did you see the angel in heaven WHOM john bowed down to say
WELL DONE i am alpha and omega . NO WE DID NOT .
what we did see was that angel saying GET ON UP NOW , WORSHIP GOD
what we did see was many crowns and all worshipping CHRIST in heaven .
AND what we did see is that same CHRIST , that same JESUS
sure did say I AM ALPHA and OMEGA , the first and the last .
AND WHY DID HE SAY IT
CAUSE GOD IS HIS WORD PATNAHS . HE IS HIS WORD HE IS HIS SPIRIT and HE WONT BE DENIED .
Hello @David in NJ,
You’re quite persistent. I don’t know all about the Godhead, it’s a mystery to me. All I do is trust in faith towards God and the Son of God raised from the dead (by the Holy Spirit of God) who was the Word of God made flesh when he was born flesh and spirit through Mary.
I continue to believe what Paul said, that’s what makes us right with God.
Whether people like it, don’t like it, it’s for the benefit of those out there who don’t know.
The truth is here. I’m not gonna go back and forth with you anymore on what makes people right with God.
“And when God counted him as righteous, it wasn’t just for Abraham’s benefit. It was recorded for our benefit, too, assuring us that God will also count us as righteous if we believe in him, the one who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. He was handed over to die because of our sins, and he was raised to life to make us right with God.”
Romans 4:23-25 NLT
“Therefore, since we have been made right in God’s sight by faith, we have peace with God because of what Jesus Christ our Lord has done for us.Because of our faith, Christ has brought us into this place of undeserved privilege where we now stand, and we confidently and joyfully look forward to sharing God’s glory. We can rejoice, too, when we run into problems and trials, for we know that they help us develop endurance. And endurance develops strength of character, and character strengthens our confident hope of salvation. And this hope will not lead to disappointment. For we know how dearly God loves us, because he has given us the Holy Spirit to fill our hearts with his love.”
Romans 5:1-5 NLT
Behold
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What you posted.......... is called "majoring in the Minors"..
Its like a person who gets "into Calvinism" or "Preterism" and off they go for years.........obsessed with nothing.
Just burning their time.
You find people who only come to forums to try to prove something about Mary.
You find people who come to forums only to talk about OSAS.
The most popular "christian forum" on the Internet, is CF.com, and its the biggest and most useless.
Its a hoard of Calvinists, and Preterists, and Mormons and Jew haters.
The reason it has such a large membership is because the owner realized that if they make the forum into endless sub-sections, then everyone and everything can go to their favorite heresy section, and just bat the ball around with the same type.
If you are an Israeli, who is not a fan of listening to confused people rant about Gaza, then you wont last too long there, this last 15 months.
Also, if you are not a fan of Demonic John Calvinism.........they'll show you the door.
There are some good students of the bible there, also, and some very friendly people......
And these will support teaching that is Pauline Theologys centered on "Justification by faith".. so, that is always helpful.
Every denomination, cult or otherwise... you can think of..., has a section on this Forum..
amigo de christo
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but what i notice that many wont DO is continually point TO CHRIST
to HIS GOSPEL but rather points to another gospel . that other gospel , YEAH IT WONT SAVE EITHER .
some of us spend our time doing all we can to point to Christ and to remind even the church
WHICH IS IN SUCH DIRE NEED TO BE REMINDED , that ITS ABOUT FAITH , ABOUT BELEIVING IN JESUS THE CHRIST
but many love another jesus , another gospel .
And it cannot save .
Ps , you do realize mathew is a preterists . Yeah that worries me too friend .
And i have to leave you with this reminder , DONT FOLLOW CALIVN OR THE POPES , in fact
beware of many . EVERY WORD of GOD is TRUTH . Lets feast on them words .
David in NJ
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Did you get rid of that heresy yet?
The LORD is waiting so that HE can Bless you with more LIGHT from Heaven.
Behold
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That is not the fault of the membership.. as if a forum is a nest of heresy, then its being allowed.
I mostly teach on this one, and the Berean forum, and CF.com and CF.net and OnlineBaptist.com
I have a busy life, lot of ministry.........so, if i try to slot in more than 5 online forums at a time, it can become too hectic.
In the last 7 yrs, the "rise of Calvinism" has destroyed most online "christian forums"........so, there is no need to visit them, as these nuts just want to kneel before Their TULIP =" The Five Points".
amigo de christo
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My friend many want to hear
and many want to beleive that which always pleases the flesh .
But the sheep have one desire , GIVEN OF GOD UPON THEIR HEARTS BY THE HOLY GHOST ,
to hear TRUTH . anything less WONT DO for a sheep .
One can try and mix even just a wee bit of leaven into the mix , but the sheep wont touch it .
their ears have been opened to hear truth
their hearts enlarged to love that WHICH IS OF GOD
their eyes to see and the desire to do THAT WHICH PLEASES GOD .
And HE is with them and does guide them , does correct them if they err , does
work a work upon them that is always working within their hearts to mold and to shape them .
Any who loves not the truth but rather a lie , THAT LOVE IS OF THE WORLD and it pleases the flesh .
BUT THE LOVE OF GOD rejoices IN THE TRUTH . MAKES YA REALLY WANT THANK GOD
for the mercy and grace HE has given us in CHRIST . AND HOW WE NEED HIM at all times .
EVERY WORD of GOD , IS TRUTH and is meat for us .
Behold
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Well, you have a few who want to endlessly argue about "The Trinity" and "Pre-Trib".
This is found on most "christian" forums.
Im on 5 forums, currently, and these 2 subjects and OSAS, are always always up and running, and its the same people, on each forum who have nothing else to offer.
The Pre-Trib is more important to discuss, because its about to happen., whereas the Trinity...... can be shown to be true by one verse.
David in NJ
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It amazes me, even after 40 years of knowing the TRUTH, how men continue to follow men rather then believing all that God has spoken.
I’ve been banned off some “christian” websites. It’s nothing I’m already aware of. I have to always remind myself I never know who is behind the screen. There are people who have mental disorders, there are people who could be drunk, or on drugs, or under medications. There are a lot of things that can influence. Not only those things, you have to consider how they grew up, what they learned through life, traditions, all of these factors come together. In the end. I believe there are people out there who are seeking faithfully and looking faithfully towards God, there are probably a lot of us still in our flesh more than we are in the spirit. The spirit causes only good things to come about. Sometimes I believe I should just leave all together get to studying and make my own YouTube videos like some I have seen have done, and just only seek to please God as I do on here. I truly in the end not worried what people truly think about me in the end. I just want to share what I’ve been made known that concerns the truth and nothing more. Love me or hate me, that’s on the person. I do my best to give people the benefit of the doubt, in Christ, cause I try my best to abide in him rather than my flesh.
amigo de christo
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man it looks like i am going to have to say it again .
cause when i read this , GREAT FEAR for many struck my heart again .
David , i dont think you realize just how much that scared the daylights out of me
to see that man of pretrib who actually taught there gonna be ANOTHER gospel taught . I WAS LIKE SAY WHAT .
that literally shocked me to the core . Deadly , very deadly , very very deadly and anti christ Leading is that mindset .
That did not look good at all . I had zero idea that existed within pre trib .
amigo de christo
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i get put on ignore daily . what is the wheat to the chaff . what folks do to me
wont move me off my course in CHRIST . and no matter how much they hate and cannot stand me
MY prayers are only good forthem and forgivness for them no matter what they do or say to me .
NOW for a reminder i so love to give . LETS get in the bible and get real busy learning and loving the truth .
David in NJ
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My Brother in Christ @Behold,
3 Questions for you = No pressure and you do not even need to answer them or respond.
Just be OPEN before the LORD when you lift these questions UP to Him AND remove any respect for anyone when you do.
#1 - How is it possible for pre-trib is about to happen when we are already in Tribulation?
#2 - How is pre-trib rapture possible when the Lord said HE is coming after the Tribulation of those days
#3 - How is pre-trib rapture possible when the OT Prophets, the LORD and His Apostles all say the Resurrection precedes the rapture?
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