Chuck Missler Proves The Pre-Trib Rapture

[Marvelloustime]

It is an all out war for the souls of men .
That which is of anti christ the mystery of inquity has long been at work and is now closing in on its peak hour .
Tribulations will get only worse , as they already have been throughout the ages .
Too many are waiting for one they think is coming to work that which is of anti christ , to work this mystery of inquity .
ITS BEEN HERE ALL ALONG . IT has worked through men and kingdoms through the ages .
John warned of it
pual did too .
John warned the church THIS is that which is of anti christ that you heard should come into the world
EVEN NOW IS IT IN THE WORLD .
ITs been here and has long worked through men and now in this final hour its gonna implode into
great darkness and heavy persecutions against the true saints .
Even in pauls day HE said THE worker of this mystery of inqiuty , WAS ALREADY AT WORK and will do so
TILL JESUS COMES TO DESTROY IT , IT WILL BE REVEALED .
Persecutions will get worse .
And the peace and safety of this anti christ lie , this lie they sold to the world , to churches and false religoins
WILL USHER IN THE WRATH OF GOD UPON THIS WORLD . this peace n safety they do holler
IS about bring down SUDDEN DESTRUCTION from ABOVE and they will not escape .
ITS GONNA get worse as long as we are in this world . WE must focus on the gospel and all sound doctrine .

 

[Marvelloustime]

Marvel not IF the world hate you , if you were OF the WORLD the world would LOVE its own .
Do not be as the many who now beleive that if the world hates us it means our message is non loving and that we do not know love .
For this message is of the world to merge the world and the religoins to be as one .
If the world loves you and accepts your sermons and speeches , WHICH sure let them feel OKAY in SIN
then the love of the world has enslaved you to a lie . a lie which tries to imply that this is the Love of GOD .
WHEN IT AINT at all the LOVE of GOD .
Woe unto you when men shall speak well of you for so did they unto the FALSE PROPHETS
AS THEY DO TODAY i might add . I SEE Lots of unrepentant sinners who justify their sins
sitting in pews and loving the messages given by their so called love churches . THEY LOVE IT , BECAUSE IT IS OF THE WORLD
and it will not expose their sin but rather lets them feel fine in sin .
Beware of men for decievers have abounded and in the name of what they call love and tolerance
HAS SEDUCED this church age right into a LIE .
GET into the bible and learn it for you .
HAD these churches actually preached THE WORDS of GOD it had caused those who sit in it to REPENT OF their wickedness .
BUT THEIR WORDS encourage the sinner. THEY promise them life and none repents of HIS wicked ways .
AND THIS is not a new pattern . What came upon Jerusalem
has come upon Christendom . The prophets preach for hire , for reward
and prophesy smooth things unto this people that none returns from his wickedness
and the peoples love to have it so .

 

[Biblepaige]

The “tribulation of those days”…IS:
** Seven seals….opened by the Lamb of God
** Seven trumps…sounded by angels…
First 4 trumps sounded…
.1/3 part of sun & moon darkened.. Rev 8:12

Next 3 trumps sounded are woes…


NOtE* Rev 9:2 AIR darkened world wide by SMOKE rising up from bottomless pit.

….5th trump….Rev 9:3
….6th trump.…Rev 9:13
….7th trump…..Rev 11:15

THEN…
Shall the Son of man BE Revealed..SEEN (not ON Earth)…sitting on a white cloud.
Rev 14:14
[QUOTE[
sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

SHALOM

Earth darkens…
Yes…after the 7 SEALS, 7 TRUMPS….tribulations…
Yes…after the 144,000 (tribes of Israel) preach to the Jews….(on Mt ZION)….after the two witnesses preach in Jerusalem…after an Angel preaches to the whole world the Gospel of Christ Jesus…(rev 14:6)….

THEN is the Son of man seen sitting on a white cloud above the earth.

This is brief…however during the trib…
(7 Seals, 7 Trumps) the inhabitants of the Earth have their last opportunity to Repent, confess Belief and willingly give their body unto DEATH as their testament of Love for the Lord God….and be SAVED….

after Rev 14:6 (angel preaching to the whole world)….the door is closed for opportunity of men to confess belief and receive soul salvation…and willingly give their body unto death for the Lord God….

The last portion of the trib…pouring out vials/bowls….is Gods tribulations, (punishments), wrath (anger), vengeance (avenging the men tormented by men for their beliefs)….

Rev 19:11 does the Lord return with Power.

We live in DAYS of tribulations…men against men…
End days tribulations…come down from Heaven….upon the whole earth….and it’s inhabitants.

Those IN Christ are not appointed to wrath.

God bless you.

Glory to God,
Taken
[/QUOTE]
Those in Christ are not appointed unto the wrath that cometh OF GOD .
But beware of the wrath of man and of the beast and all who do follow it , for they will persecute the true saints .
BUT at the coming of the LORD and at our gathering unto THE LORD
HE will take us up and lay down HIS WRATH against the beast , fp and all who followed it .
SO when we say wrath we mean THE WRATH OF GOD is what we are not appointed unto
But beware the wrath of man , for that TRIBULATION we have been appointed unto . NOW show me my error my friend .
You cannot . I agree we do not GO under the wrath OF GOD HIMSELF which do cometh upon this unrepentant world
the beast and all who worshipped the beast . They will find themselves under the wrath of GOD
on the day HE cometh for his saints . Go on now my dear friend . Do feel free to show me my error . IF so be i am in error .
[/QUOTE]
It is clear in the word. The first coming is the pre tribulation rapture. Jesus comes for his bride,the church, to take us home. The second coming, Jesus brings his bride back to this world.

The Chuck Missler teaching on the pre tribulation Bible truth takes time to watch. However, it takes less time for those unaware of this truth than they currently spend arguing against it.

 

[Taken]

@ David IN NJ
Hey David….I gave a brief, with little details…on a very complex topic…and then doing some chores, came back…and your and mine and christo’s texts were all jumbled together.

confusing…

I have no issue discussing with you REVELATIONS…I studied that book alone for nearly a year…and know you use Scriptures to verify your beliefs….
Baby’s steps specific works good for me to discuss…

To me…WHO and WHAT one is discussing, can become VERY confusing, or conflicting… IF…two are NOT on the same page of what “words” mean.

Tribulations…here on earth NOW….caused by men against men…primarily influenced by Satan.

Tribulations…later (end days)….caused by God….Sent down from Heaven….Because of Gods Anger … (the same anger those IN Christ can observe by the devious works of men)….and the dastardly results.

Wrath….to me, is the reaction, specific ACTS, that one takes, when their ANGER is at the ‘boiling point” so to speak. Called waxing hot.

Names….
God has several Names..
The Lord has One Name.
Men have several Names.
Angels have one Name.

Titles…
God has several Titles.
Lord Jesus has several Titles.
Men have several titles.

Saints…
Have never heard God nor Jesus referred to as Saint.
Have never heard Holy Angels referred to as saints.
Have heard of men IN Christ referred to as saints.

I believe…”specific names…and specific titles used in specific passages of Scripture have specific meaning as to WHO (with) multiple titles is specifically DOING What.

A “holy thing” was sent to Earth..(isa 55:11), and entered into a specific virgin woman’s womb….once born forth out of her womb…was called: JESUS, son of man….and revealed / declared that same JESUS “would be called”; the Son of God. (Luke 1:35)…

In brief…some 30 years Later….in a voice from Heaven declared …. That DAY is the DAY, that JESUS was declared, the Son of God….

YET…on the day of Jesus’ BIRTH on Earth…a FEW were given the knowledge…that Child, WAS the Christ Messiah, and later that knowledge would be revealed to others, then the whole world.

Point being…
ONLY…the Word of God was SENT TO EARTH, “in the likeness AS a man”….called the Son of Man….and given the name JESUS….

ALL other KNOWLEDGE “about” Him…that applies to Him; was revealed while He was “ON” Earth.

Son of Man…
He was SENT from Heaven….
He RETURNED to Heaven…..
AND He shall return TO Earth..
“Because it is ONLY “the likeness AS a man”, that human men….”can SEE”.

Christ…is the Spirit of God, the Wisdom of God, the Power of God, the Seed of God…
(And no HUMAN EYES can “see” Him….unless He appear in the LIKENESS AS a man.)

The Lamb of God…is another “title”…(same, human men can NOT SEE, but yet KNOW of His Power to “Baptize” men with Gods Spirit.

The Lord…title…intermingled with specific to Jesus…teacher, master, rabbi, savior, etc. broad, general and specific. All round Servant of men, and intercessor, on behalf of God.

END of DAYS…Revelations…very complex….dealing with…ALL humans that ever or will ever live….ALL angels who have kept their holiness or fallen away…

You, I trust are very familiar, with Gen 1….and from the get go…the DIVISIONS God Established.
Advancing toward the END of DAYS (as we know them)…
DIVISIONS between and among men (WITH-IN Christ the Lord )
SHALL be Separated…from those (WITHOUT Christ the Lord )…

“I” trust that separation occurs BEFORE the Tribulations and Wrath are sent down from Heaven.

The END days Tribulations…BEGINS with ….
the Lambs WRATH starting with the LAMB opening the First Seal..continuing until all 7 seals are opened….and the opening of each SEAL, increasing bit by bit the Tribulations upon the world and it’s inhabitants.

Reasoning….why would the very Lamb of God, who baptized men with the Spirit of God….BE mad, upset, sending His tribulations and wrath upon men IN WHOM HE Himself Baptized with the Spirit of God and the Spirit of God is WITH-IN such FAITHFUL SANCTIFIED men?

Even God Himself…(during the first great tribulation)….Separated Faithful Noah (his family)..from all other men on Earth…Causing Noah and his family to Rise UP above the earth (dry land), while God caused the earth (dry land) to be destroyed (all wet).
Gen 7:17

Why does Scripture bother to mention…the similitudes between the First and Last tribulations sent down from Heaven….?
Matt 24:21
Matt 24:37

Personally….me having lived in Noah’s day…I’d rather have been IN the ark with Noah above the earth, during Gods tribulation.

Personally….me might be living in the last days….
I’d rather be with the Lord IN the clouds above the earth, during Gods last tribulation.

Personally…me living now am tiring of the persecutions of men against men….the instigations, the rhetoric, the anti-Christ, the deceit and utter nonsense perpetuated 24-7…

Just saying…I lean on very Specific Word “In context”…

And aside from those IN Christ…being already Raptured…and with the Lord….
Men ON Earth during the the last trib….(will not be running up to higher ground to Avoid rising water….)
Rather…shall be Choosing their allegiance to God…to Jesus….and others Choosing their allegiance to Christ….and SOME men remaining stead fast AGAINST the Lord God…(and suffer Gods vengeance).

Reason to me…WHY…men baptized IN Christ, (by the Lamb of God) are, will be ON earth, during the tribulations and wrath of the Lamb, sent down upon the earth and it’s inhabitants.

Thanks David… God bless you and yours.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

@Biblepaige ~

it gets confusing to discuss revelations…
Because…

When “biblical characters” are introduced…with this name, this title….and THEN the knowledge is “revealed”….this guy, and this guy, and this guy, and this guy….are all the SAME guy….

That which “name and specific title”….magically is no longer a consideration.

The FACT is…the TITLES of biblical characters, reveal that individuals “specific” purpose….which has not changed.

The Lamb of God….has a specific purpose.
The Christ….has a specific purpose.
The Lord…..has a specific purpose.
The Son of Man…had a specific purpose.
The Son of God…has a specific purpose..
Jesus … has a specific purpose.

Omnipresence ….
The Lord can be IN Heaven While Christ is entering the Hearts of men on earth.

The Lord can be IN Heaven While the Lamb of God is baptizing the Hearts of men on earth.

God bless you.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

WRATH of the Lamb….was expected…and IS Come…happened (as in John’s vision of the future)…

Rev 6: [16 & 17]
[16] And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

Rev 12:
[12] Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Rev 16:
[1] And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.

Wrath of the Lamb…
Wrath of the Devil…
Wrath of God…

Really…WHY, WHY, WHY…is the Lamb angry, the Devil angry, God angry….SO ANGRY to pour out their wrath upon men ON tHe FACe OF the EARTH?

ANSWER….”REJECTION”…

That does not APPLY to those “IN” Christ. They have Already…vowed their body dead unto the Lord God…(crucified with Jesus)…
Received the salvation of their soul…
Received the quickening of their spirit…
“THEY” are risen up to the clouds…seeing the Lord, as He is…Waiting for the Lambs wrath, the devils wrath, Gods wrath…to subside and accompany and Serve the Lord in His Kingdom “on Earth” for 1,000 years…
(VOID of demonic angels….and with MORTAL MEN, who…BELIEVE…(not converted…rather BELIEVE)….till the 1,000 years have become accomplished.
THEN MORE occurs.


The tribulation sent from Heaven CEASES to APPLY to those alive “ON” Earth, who become DEAD.

Of those “ON” the Earth…some shall attest to their Belief, and BECOME DEAD and “living soul saved”….and such soul escorted up to Heaven, to wait Judgement. Rev 7: 13 - 14.

Of those “ON” the Earth….many shall reject Belief, and BECOME DEAD and “living soul cast into Hell to wait judgement”.

So many things happening in REVELATIONS…
Oh how some men “hate” cherry—picking….but NOT every Passage of Scripture applies to ALL men…
Especially in Revelations…WHEN every created being is being personally dealt with….according to Gods order and way.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[ShineTheLight]

Okay everyone, how about this. Let every man and woman be a liar, and let God be true.

 

[Biblepaige]

Okay everyone, how about this. Let every man and woman be a liar, and let God be true.

Romans 3 taken out of context.
That doesn't say a lot for any Christian here contending for the truth in God's word does it?

Haven't you noticed? There are but a few here who deny God's word. They keep repeating the same lies so to insist God's word is a lie.

So how about this. Let God's words be true and every man and woman who knows this and defends this, meet therefore and defeat every liar that argued to the contrary.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Missler died about 6 years ago, but unfortunately, the pre-trib rapture hoax did not.

It's easy to debunk the guy. For example, he erroneously believes Matt. 24:42 is referring to "the pre-trib rapture."

Keep omitting the pretrib rapture verses.
Maybe there is some merit in your doctrine of omission?

 

[MA2444]

Missler died about 6 years ago, but unfortunately, the pre-trib rapture hoax did not.

It's easy to debunk the guy. For example, he erroneously believes Matt. 24:42 is referring to "the pre-trib rapture."

When are you going to debunk him? The only thing that you have done here is to state your opinion.

If you sould have acually debunked him, you would be using scripture and stuff. You don't so choose to believe what you want to...but you can't call him debunked! Lol!.

 

[David in NJ]

When are you going to debunk him? The only thing that you have done here is to state your opinion.

If you sould have acually debunked him, you would be using scripture and stuff. You don't so choose to believe what you want to...but you can't call him debunked! Lol!.

Good Morning Brother in Christ,

The FATHER debunked 'pre-trib' rapture when HE sent His only Begotten Son
The LORD Jesus Christ debunked 'pre-trib' rapture in His Gospel
The Holy Spirt debunked 'pre-trib' rapture in His Letters that HE wrote thru the Apostles

pre-trib rapture is a sugar addiction AND sugar addictions kills you slowly with sweetness of taste for the flesh

 

[MA2444]

Good Morning Brother in Christ,

The FATHER debunked 'pre-trib' rapture when HE sent His only Begotten Son
The LORD Jesus Christ debunked 'pre-trib' rapture in His Gospel
The Holy Spirt debunked 'pre-trib' rapture in His Letters that HE wrote thru the Apostles

pre-trib rapture is a sugar addiction AND sugar addictions kills you slowly with sweetness of taste for the flesh

Again, you have not debunked anything. All you did was state your opinion.

If you want to debunk him, I'll listen but use scripture instead of opinion. Sound fair?

 

[David in NJ]

Again, you have not debunked anything. All you did was state your opinion.

If you want to debunk him, I'll listen but use scripture instead of opinion. Sound fair?

God is so much smarter then us that HE made it simple for us to know the TRUTH thru simple Yes/No questions/answers

Let's look at each point from post 171

1.) the FATHER sent His Son to show us the Way the Truth and the Life
a.) Was the "Way" that the FATHER sent the Son for 'pre-trib' deliverance/rapture? Yes or No

2.) In His Gospel, did JESUS ever say: "I will pre-trib rapture my Church"? Yes or No

3.) In the Letters that were Authored by the Holy Sprit thru the Apostles, did HE ever say:
"We will not suffer tribulation but will be raptured 'pre-tribulation'? Yes or No

 

[MA2444]

God is so much smarter then us that HE made it simple for us to know the TRUTH thru simple Yes/No questions/answers

Let's look at each point from post 171

1.) the FATHER sent His Son to show us the Way the Truth and the Life
a.) Was the "Way" that the FATHER sent the Son for 'pre-trib' deliverance/rapture? Yes or No

2.) In His Gospel, did JESUS ever say: "I will pre-trib rapture my Church"? Yes or No

3.) In the Letters that were Authored by the Holy Sprit thru the Apostles, did HE ever say:
"We will not suffer tribulation but will be raptured 'pre-tribulation'? Yes or No

Asking trick questions does not really prove anything. Can you use scripture?

Are Cell Phones in scripture? Yes or No?

Well I guess cell phones do not exist then!

See?

 

[David in NJ]

Asking trick questions does not really prove anything. Can you use scripture?

Are Cell Phones in scripture? Yes or No?

Well I guess cell phones do not exist then!

See?

Are cell phones, cars, airplanes, computers, wireless, drones, submarines and fake moon landings required for Salvation?
No

God only speaks to that which HE deemed necessary for our Faith unto Salvation:
a.) Genesis
b.) OT Prophets - includes Moses/Five Books, Psalms and Proverbs
c.) His First Coming
d.) His Gospel
e.) Acts/Holy Spirit
f.) the Apostles
g.) Revelation
h.) His Second Coming

These all pertain to the Gospel, Judgment of the World and our walk with Him until His Return = His Second Coming

Can you SEE how our FATHER wrote a Book for His Children?

At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?”

Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me.

 

[doctrox]

When are you going to debunk him? The only thing that you have done here is to state your opinion.

If you sould have acually debunked him, you would be using scripture and stuff. You don't so choose to believe what you want to...but you can't call him debunked! Lol!.

and

Are Cell Phones in scripture? Yes or No?

Well I guess cell phones do not exist then!

To begin with, charges of plagiarism:

"A Los Angeles Times article reported that Missler and co-author Hal Lindsey had plagiarised a portion of Professor Edwin Yamauchi's 1982 book Foes From the Northern Frontier in their own 1992 book The Magog Factor. Hal Lindsey's manager Paul Krikac said Missler had written the passages in question, but conceded that Lindsey is responsible for the overall manuscript. After the missed attribution was acknowledged by Missler and acknowledged in a letter (TMI_Letter.PDF), book shipments to bookstores were discontinued and all of the authors' proceeds donated to a ministry.[1]"

But it's much deeper than that.

I didn't want to be the one to bring you the bad news, but here's a sampling of the guy's "spooky" history.

Chuck made the transition from the military to the private sector when he became a systems engineer with TRW, a large aerospace firm. He then went on to serve as a senior analyst with a non-profit think tank where he conducted projects for the intelligence community and the Department of Defense.

Here's a sanitized updated version of some of the sly Missler's history from his own "official website":

"SWANsat (Super Wide Area Network) is a company headed by Dr William Welty (1953-2019). It was founded around a concept of a building a coherent, world-wide Super-Wide Area Network™ that is more secure, cost-effective, wider and faster bandwidth than any wireless service currently available by way of a series of geostationary satellites. One goal is that Christian Ministries would be able to use the service for free. To date, SWANsat exists largely on paper in development and no satellites have been built or launched. Chuck Missler was on the board in a technical advisory capacity."

SWANsat | Chuck Missler

SWANsat was shuttered in 2019 SWANsat (Super Wide Area Network) is a company headed by Dr William Welty (1953-2019). It was founded around a concept of a building a coherent, world-wide Super-Wide Area Network™ that is more secure, cost-effective, wider and faster bandwidth than any wireless...

chuckmissler.com

"Chuck joined the USN Missile Program and eventually became Branch Chief of the Department of Guided Missiles at Lowry Air Force Base."

"In 1978 Chuck became the CEO of Western Digital and saved the company from bankruptcy, he pushed for increased R&D and in 1981 Chuck personally funded and directed the first microchip implementation of the Data Encryption Standard (DES) of the National Bureau of Standards, in concert with Carnegie Mellon Institute of Research."

"Missler started his own company, Cyphernetics, a privately-owned company, which began operations In June 1969 and planned to operate a national time-sharing computer network."

"Missler was a director for Datum Inc. which developed, computer peripherals and cesium clocks of the Global Positioning
Satellite systems, etc."

"In 1984 Chuck was the Chairman and CEO of Resdel Industries, Inc. a defense contractor based in Newport Beach. And in 1987 Resdel won a contract to make radio receivers for P-3 Submarine Hunters. While Chuck was the Chairman for Resdel, he was on the board of the Ramtron Corporation, which the Ramtron Corporation was formed to research, develop, and market a new generation of nonvolatile semiconductor products that integrate ferro- electric and semiconductor materials, using established silicon manufacturing techniques. By applying novel ferroelectric circuit designs, materials, and processing techniques, Ramtron has produced the first practical ferroelectric random access memory (FRAM)."

"Missler was the chairman and a major shareholder of a small, publicly owned development company known as Phoenix Group International. The firm established an $8 billion joint venture with the Soviet Union to supply 6 million personal computers to their 143,000 schools."

"Missler served on the Board of Directors with William E. Simon (former Secretary of Treasury), General David C. Jones (Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff), Admiral Tom Hayward (Chief of Naval Operations) and Dr. Edward Teller, (Scientific Advisor to the President), involved in highly sensitive advanced technology projects, and on the Board of Directors of the Computer and Communications Industry Association in Washington D.C."

Biography | Chuck Missler

Early Life Chuck Missler was born May 28, 1934, in Illinois to Jacob and Elizabeth Missler, raised in Southern California. Chuck demonstrated an aptitude for technical interests as a youth. He became a ham radio operator at age nine, his call sign is 'W6OHD'[1][2] As a teenager, Chuck started...

chuckmissler.com

etc. etc.

I spoke with the guy when he was at New Zealand. Arrogant and dismissive, especially when I was moving closer to the truth and he perceived others nearby being attentive to me.

If you want to get into his scriptural heresies, we can do that, too.

 

[MA2444]

Are cell phones, cars, airplanes, computers, wireless, drones, submarines and fake moon landings required for Salvation?
No

God only speaks to that which HE deemed necessary for our Faith unto Salvation:
a.) Genesis
b.) OT Prophets - includes Moses/Five Books, Psalms and Proverbs
c.) His First Coming
d.) His Gospel
e.) Acts/Holy Spirit
f.) the Apostles
g.) Revelation
h.) His Second Coming

These all pertain to the Gospel, Judgment of the World and our walk with Him until His Return = His Second Coming

Can you SEE how our FATHER wrote a Book for His Children?

At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?”

Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me.

I can agree with what you said but what does that have to do with whether or not the rapture is pre trib?

 

[MA2444]

and

To begin with, charges of plagiarism:

"A Los Angeles Times article reported that Missler and co-author Hal Lindsey had plagiarised a portion of Professor Edwin Yamauchi's 1982 book Foes From the Northern Frontier in their own 1992 book The Magog Factor. Hal Lindsey's manager Paul Krikac said Missler had written the passages in question, but conceded that Lindsey is responsible for the overall manuscript. After the missed attribution was acknowledged by Missler and acknowledged in a letter (TMI_Letter.PDF), book shipments to bookstores were discontinued and all of the authors' proceeds donated to a ministry.[1]"

But it's much deeper than that.

I didn't want to be the one to bring you the bad news, but here's a sampling of the guy's "spooky" history.

Chuck made the transition from the military to the private sector when he became a systems engineer with TRW, a large aerospace firm. He then went on to serve as a senior analyst with a non-profit think tank where he conducted projects for the intelligence community and the Department of Defense.

Here's a sanitized updated version of some of the sly Missler's history from his own "official website":

"SWANsat (Super Wide Area Network) is a company headed by Dr William Welty (1953-2019). It was founded around a concept of a building a coherent, world-wide Super-Wide Area Network™ that is more secure, cost-effective, wider and faster bandwidth than any wireless service currently available by way of a series of geostationary satellites. One goal is that Christian Ministries would be able to use the service for free. To date, SWANsat exists largely on paper in development and no satellites have been built or launched. Chuck Missler was on the board in a technical advisory capacity."

SWANsat | Chuck Missler

SWANsat was shuttered in 2019 SWANsat (Super Wide Area Network) is a company headed by Dr William Welty (1953-2019). It was founded around a concept of a building a coherent, world-wide Super-Wide Area Network™ that is more secure, cost-effective, wider and faster bandwidth than any wireless...

chuckmissler.com

"Chuck joined the USN Missile Program and eventually became Branch Chief of the Department of Guided Missiles at Lowry Air Force Base."

"In 1978 Chuck became the CEO of Western Digital and saved the company from bankruptcy, he pushed for increased R&D and in 1981 Chuck personally funded and directed the first microchip implementation of the Data Encryption Standard (DES) of the National Bureau of Standards, in concert with Carnegie Mellon Institute of Research."

"Missler started his own company, Cyphernetics, a privately-owned company, which began operations In June 1969 and planned to operate a national time-sharing computer network."

"Missler was a director for Datum Inc. which developed, computer peripherals and cesium clocks of the Global Positioning
Satellite systems, etc."

"In 1984 Chuck was the Chairman and CEO of Resdel Industries, Inc. a defense contractor based in Newport Beach. And in 1987 Resdel won a contract to make radio receivers for P-3 Submarine Hunters. While Chuck was the Chairman for Resdel, he was on the board of the Ramtron Corporation, which the Ramtron Corporation was formed to research, develop, and market a new generation of nonvolatile semiconductor products that integrate ferro- electric and semiconductor materials, using established silicon manufacturing techniques. By applying novel ferroelectric circuit designs, materials, and processing techniques, Ramtron has produced the first practical ferroelectric random access memory (FRAM)."

"Missler was the chairman and a major shareholder of a small, publicly owned development company known as Phoenix Group International. The firm established an $8 billion joint venture with the Soviet Union to supply 6 million personal computers to their 143,000 schools."

"Missler served on the Board of Directors with William E. Simon (former Secretary of Treasury), General David C. Jones (Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff), Admiral Tom Hayward (Chief of Naval Operations) and Dr. Edward Teller, (Scientific Advisor to the President), involved in highly sensitive advanced technology projects, and on the Board of Directors of the Computer and Communications Industry Association in Washington D.C."

Biography | Chuck Missler

Early Life Chuck Missler was born May 28, 1934, in Illinois to Jacob and Elizabeth Missler, raised in Southern California. Chuck demonstrated an aptitude for technical interests as a youth. He became a ham radio operator at age nine, his call sign is 'W6OHD'[1][2] As a teenager, Chuck started...

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I spoke with the guy when he was at New Zealand. Arrogant and dismissive, especially when I was moving closer to the truth and he perceived others nearby being attentive to me.

If you want to get into his scriptural heresies, we can do that, too.

Now waitaminute, we were talking about if the rapture is pre trib or not, So who cares about chuck Misslers biography?

So you can't prove his message wrong with scripture so, attack the messenger and try to bring into question his credibility?

You have fun with that if it amuses you but it's a waste of my time so I aint playing that game.

Bring out some scripture brother! Remember what that is? Remember what the topic is?

 

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You see that stuff all the time. Someone comes out with truths that were previously a mystery and then a witch hunt starts to destroy the persons credibility in an effort to stop the flow of knowledge and truth.

They know how to play their games but don't have scriptures to back up what they say.

 

[doctrox]

Yeah, you're right; when they can't disprove his facts, they assassinate his character.

I wanted to learn two things here: Where you truly serious about drilling deeper on Missler? And, are you willing to accept the revealed facts of the matter (the scriptural imperatives) if they don't agree with your opinion of the man?

And so, I said this:

If you want to get into his scriptural heresies, we can do that, too.

I'm away for a day or two, and I will get back here then and we will do some "disproving."