Chuck Missler Proves The Pre-Trib Rapture

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Once again you start your day with hypocrisy.

pre-trib rapture is not in a single bible verse = if it were you and your pastors would post the scripture that has JESUS saying:

a.)"I will not allow my elect to suffer from the Abomination of Desolation/the Antichrist."

b.) "Before the Antichrist and Before Tribulation I will rapture my Church"

c.) "Paul an Apostle of Jesus Christ, Greetings Brethren, now you know that we will not be here suffering unto death as the rapture will wisk us away, no tribulation or persecution is coming to us."

Can any of you PROVE from the Holy Scriptures any such thing as pre-trib rapture = NOPE
If the second coming is on the white horses (which it is)in Rev 19, then you are totally painted into a corner.
IOW, You are starting your rapture theory from a total farce and position of defeat.

You come in here with no verses and accuse us of the same.( IOW LIE ABOUT US IN YOUR EMBARRASSMENT)
But worse than that you call us liars when all our verses require you to cast down God's word.
If you keep saying we have no verses, you are just mocking me. And showing the world you are a liar.
It is I that PROVED ya'll are bankrupt biblically.
(You have No verses that point to a postrib rapture...zero)
 

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If the second coming is on the white horses (which it is)in Rev 19, then you are totally painted into a corner.
IOW, You are starting your rapture theory from a total farce and position of defeat.

You come in here with no verses and accuse us of the same.( IOW LIE ABOUT US IN YOUR EMBARRASSMENT)
But worse than that you call us liars when all our verses require you to cast down God's word.
If you keep saying we have no verses, you are just mocking me. And showing the world you are a liar.
It is I that PROVED ya'll are bankrupt biblically.
(You have No verses that point to a postrib rapture...zero)
If the second coming is on the white horses (which it is)in Rev 19, then you are totally painted into a corner.
Continue on your thesis here and BEGIN with a scripture or two that pinpoints my error - ty

If you are correct, in so doing you will fulfill the law of Christ which is "love one another as I have loved you".
 

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Yep . Love and embrace every Word of the glorious LORD .
Charity . if one has not charity then it profits them nothing .
What does charity rejoice in . TRUTH . not inquity , not lies , BUT TRUTH .
By the grace of GOD i have long been fully persauded that not some , not most , BUT EVERY WORD OF GOD
is pure , lovey , true and GOOD meat for our soul . EVERY WORD david . EVERY .
But...he doesn't.
He twists them.
You haven't noticed.
 

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Pre-trib, IS CHRIST, call UP TO the Lord, Christ’s Church who have been MADE PREPARED to meet their Groom…

Where does their “Lord, groom meet His bride…?

Same as in an old traditional Jewish wedding…
The bride readies her-self in “HER” fathers house…
The groom readies a house for his bride.
The Servant of the groom goes to the brides fathers home and calls her out.
The Servant escorts the bride to the grooms fathers house, to meet her groom.

1 Thes 4:
[16] For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Who is the grooms, FATHER? …
…God.
Where is the grooms, Father’s
House?
…Heaven.
Where is Heaven?
…Lower Heavens….clouds
…Mid Heavens….visible at night, stars
…High Heavens…beyond the stars
…Above the Heaven of Heavens…Gods estate

Where does the Lords bride go?
** from Earth up to Lower (clouds) heaven.
Where does the Lord groom go?
** from High Heaven down to Lower Heaven, clouds.

WHY?
Because…The Lord’s BRIDE has been MADE, whole:
* Body given unto death (crucified w Jesus)
* Forgiven
* Cleansed
* soul restored (saved)
* spirit quickened (born again)
* baptized with Gods Truth
* prepared and raised up glorified, to meet her groom….Vail lifted….SEE Him “as He is”…and forever be with Him, where ever He is.

WHY….remove the Church, the Lord’s Bride From the face of the Earth?

Because….the Tribulations and Wrath of God ARE going to be sent DOWN from Heaven UPON the whole world….
WHO…have NOT been MADE WHOLE and do not HAVE the VISIBLE SEAL OF God on their Forehead…

The Church…is already MADE WHOLE….And the SEAL is given AFTER the marriage is PRONOUNCED and BLESSED By God.

So “IF” Christ’s church were to remain ON earth during the Tribulations and Wraths sent down from Heaven…THEY would suffer the consequences of Gods SENT Tribulations and Wrath…. And WHY?

Why would God dictate or want His Faithful in Christ to SUFFER Wrath after DOING what was pleasing to God?

Why DID God raise Faithful Noah UP above the Earth, the first time God sent His Tribulations and Wrath down upon the Earth and it’s inhabitants….but not raise up Christ’s Faithful bride?

Please consider…

1 Thes. 1:
[10] And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

1Thes.5 :
[9] For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

Gen 7:
[17] And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

Rapture…only pertains to Christ’s Church, who are Sanctified (set apart), made WHOLE, perfected IN Christ, and delivered before the next/last tribulations and wrath send down from heaven.

AND YES…during the last trib…many will be “soul saved”….and bodily killed….and later their body’s quickened and raise up (resurrected) in Glory.
God bless you.


Glory to God,
Taken
 
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Today is a new day = walk in Today in Christ and in His words.

We are not called by our Heavenly FATHER to follow men, we are called to follow Christ.


In so doing you will fulfill the law of Christ which is "love one another as I have loved you".
 

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Pre-trib, IS CHRIST, call UP TO the Lord, Christ’s Church who have been MADE PREPARED to meet their Groom…

Where does their “Lord, groom meet His bride…?

Same as in an old traditional Jewish wedding…
The bride readies her-self in “HER” fathers house…
The groom readies a house for his bride.
The Servant of the groom goes to the brides fathers home and calls her out.
The Servant escorts the bride to the grooms fathers house, to meet her groom.

1 Thes 4:
[16] For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Who is the grooms, FATHER? …
…God.
Where is the grooms, Father’s
House?
…Heaven.
Where is Heaven?
…Lower Heavens….clouds
…Mid Heavens….visible at night, stars
…High Heavens…beyond the stars
…Above the Heaven of Heavens…Gods estate

Where does the Lords bride go?
** from Earth up to Lower (clouds) heaven.
Where does the Lord groom go?
** from High Heaven down to Lower Heaven, clouds.

WHY?
Because…The Lord’s BRIDE has been MADE, whole:
* Body given unto death (crucified w Jesus)
* Forgiven
* Cleansed
* soul restored (saved)
* spirit quickened (born again)
* baptized with Gods Truth
* prepared and raised up glorified, to meet her groom….Vail lifted….SEE Him “as He is”…and forever be with Him, where ever He is.

WHY….remove the Church, the Lord’s Bride From the face of the Earth?

Because….the Tribulations and Wrath of God ARE going to be sent DOWN from Heaven UPON the whole world….
WHO…have NOT been MADE WHOLE and do not HAVE the VISIBLE SEAL OF God on their Forehead…

The Church…is already MADE WHOLE….And the SEAL is given AFTER the marriage is PRONOUNCED and BLESSED By God.

So “IF” Christ’s church were to remain ON earth during the Tribulations and Wraths sent down from Heaven…THEY would suffer the consequences of Gods SENT Tribulations and Wrath…. And WHY?

Why would God dictate or want His Faithful in Christ to SUFFER Wrath after DOING what was pleasing to God?

Why DID God raise Faithful Noah UP above the Earth, the first time God sent His Tribulations and Wrath down upon the Earth and it’s inhabitants….but not raise up Christ’s Faithful bride?

Please consider…

1 Thes. 1:
[10] And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

1Thes.5 :
[9] For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

Gen 7:
[17] And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

Rapture…only pertains to Christ’s Church, who are Sanctified (set apart), made WHOLE, perfected IN Christ, and delivered before the next/last tribulations and wrath send down from heaven.

AND YES…during the last trib…many will be “soul saved”….and bodily killed….and later their body’s quickened and raise up (resurrected) in Glory.
God bless you.


Glory to God,
Taken
We both know the LORD, we both have His Holy Spirit, we both love each other no matter pre-mid-post rapture.

Greet all the brethren with a holy kiss - 1 Thessalonians 5:26

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KISS the Son = Psalm 2

Here is how you do just that:
“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

SHALOM
 
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Nothing is changed in the ORDER of His Second Coming, nothing is changed from Matt ch24

So they asked Him, saying, “Teacher, but when will these things be? And what sign will there be when these things are about to take place?”

8And He said: “Take heed that you not be deceived. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and, ‘The time has drawn near.’ [d]Therefore do not [e]go after them. 9But when you hear of wars and commotions, do not be terrified; for these things must come to pass first, but the end will not come immediately.”

10Then He said to them, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. 11And there will be great earthquakes in various places, and famines and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven. 12But before all these things, they will lay their hands on you and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues and prisons. You will be brought before kings and rulers for My name’s sake. 13But it will turn out for you as an occasion for testimony. 14Therefore settle it in your hearts not to meditate beforehand on what you will [f]answer; 15for I will give you a mouth and wisdom which all your adversaries will not be able to contradict or [g]resist. 16You will be betrayed even by parents and brothers, relatives and friends; and they will put some of you to death. 17And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. 18But not a hair of your head shall be lost. 19By your patience possess your souls.

That nation will rise against nation is a Hebrewism that means world war. So you didnt watch the video. Because itexplains all that. So you do believe Matthew 24 as it is written and you dont believe Luke 21, right?
 

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That nation will rise against nation is a Hebrewism that means world war. So you didnt watch the video. Because itexplains all that. So you do believe Matthew 24 as it is written and you dont believe Luke 21, right?
i have my FATHER's word - chucky missed out on Truth = Matt 24:29-31

FYI - i am familiar with chuck and his teachings = some are very Good !!!

Of course, as a business man yourself, you should know who the BOSS is and His words are not to be messed with!

If we were passing by each other on the street today, i would grab you and hug you you and say PRAISE God for His Mercy towards us.
 

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i have my FATHER's word - chucky missed out on Truth = Matt 24:29-31

FYI - i am familiar with chuck and his teachings = some are very Good !!!

Of course, as a business man yourself, you should know who the BOSS is and His words are not to be messed with!

If we were passing by each other on the street today, i would grab you and hug you you and say PRAISE God for His Mercy towards us.
I think if you were familiar with Mr Missler's teachings on this topic you would show more respect for his legacy.
And the truth he brings to light regarding the pre tribulation rapture you do or do not believe in depending on whatever it is that flips that switch in your mind and is followed by your subsequent rhetoric.

His name is Chuck. Not Chucky. And he did not miss a thing
 
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I think if you were familiar with Mr Missler's teachings on this topic you would show more respect for his legacy.
And the truth he brings to light regarding the pre tribulation rapture you do or do not believe in depending on whatever it is that flips that switch in your mind and is followed by your subsequent rhetoric.

His name is Chuck. Not Chucky.
JESUS says this to you Biblepaige,

"How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only God?"
 

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JESUS says this to you Biblepaige,

"How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only God?"
No,you say that to me. And once again don't understand what is being taught. You instead think it is yet another means by which you imagine you can deliver insult toward a member.

You're wrong. Again.
 
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I think if you were familiar with Mr Missler's teachings on this topic you would show more respect for his legacy.
And the truth he brings to light regarding the pre tribulation rapture you do or do not believe in depending on whatever it is that flips that switch in your mind and is followed by your subsequent rhetoric.

His name is Chuck. Not Chucky. And he did not miss a thing
"How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only God?"

Here is your chance to honor God:

Post the verse where JESUS says: "I will pre-trib rapture my Church"
 

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No,you say that to me. And once again don't understand what is being taught. You instead think it is yet another means by which you imagine you can deliver insult toward a member.

You're wrong. Again.
You began your day with casting insult toward another.

Now you throw another false accusation saying: "I do not understand"

All the while you could be honoring God by posting His words where, as YOU claim, "I will pre-trib rapture my Church"

Drop the insults and RETURN to Christ who says: "Love one another as I have loved you"
 

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"How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only God?"

Here is your chance to honor God:
You don't get to judge how I or anyone here honors God.
Post the verse where JESUS says: "I will pre-trib rapture my Church"
One way I honor God is not to cast pearls before swine.
Again.
 

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i have my FATHER's word - chucky missed out on Truth = Matt 24:29-31

FYI - i am familiar with chuck and his teachings = some are very Good !!!

Of course, as a business man yourself, you should know who the BOSS is and His words are not to be messed with!

If we were passing by each other on the street today, i would grab you and hug you you and say PRAISE God for His Mercy towards us.

Brother you are all over the place here. It's like your driving but weavng and shooting out the window! You took two shots out the window.

Why are you doing a drive by on pre tribbers? Dont you think the body should be unified?
No one is taking shots at you so it's just you doing a drive by. (and waving while your doing it!)
 

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You don't get to judge how I or anyone here honors God.

One way I honor God is not to cast pearls before swine.
Again.
You don't get to judge how I or anyone here honors God.
JESUS is judging you, not me, when He says to you:
""How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only God?"

JESUS is judging you by your own words = "One way I honor God is not to cast pearls before swine."

You responses towards me CLEARLY shows you are judging and doing so without any evidence by which you bear false witness.

The plague of 'pre-trib rapture' is antichrist and teaches 'christians' to attack those who Speak the TRUTH from God's Mouth.
 

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Post the verse where JESUS says: "I will pre-trib rapture my Church"

It's Luke 21:12 You see, this is Lukes account of the olivet discourse and it is at this point that Jesus makes the statement: But before these things happen....and then He goes on talking and adding to what He has already said. At this point He has answered all 3 of their questions and is adding in other details (but before this) the rapture and talks about it.
 

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Brother you are all over the place here. It's like your driving but weavng and shooting out the window! You took two shots out the window.

Why are you doing a drive by on pre tribbers? Dont you think the body should be unified?
No one is taking shots at you so it's just you doing a drive by. (and waving while your doing it!)
pre-trib is not found in a single scripture verse = if it were you would of posted it

CHRIST said Post-Trib

Therefore someone is LYING = CLUE = It is not CHRIST who says "AFTER the Tribulation.........I Come"

pre-trib says: you will be left behind

God PROMISES: "He will leave none who belong to Him behind = Hebrews 13:5-6

Once again pre-trib is LYING

pre-trb doctrine is from "men who seek honor from men" for it NEVER came out of the Mouth of God

Where is my HUG Brother, for my 'hugs' are to point you to Christ and His words
 

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JESUS is judging you, not me, when He says to you:
""How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only God?"

JESUS is judging you by your own words = "One way I honor God is not to cast pearls before swine."

You responses towards me CLEARLY shows you are judging and doing so without any evidence by which you bear false witness.

The plague of 'pre-trib rapture' is antichrist and teaches 'christians' to attack those who Speak the TRUTH from God's Mouth.

Oh Get Bent. You cant pllay God like that. Who do you think you are to speak like that to a child of God. You better repent pal.