Another Premillennial absurdity

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Not news, scripture to back up your wild assertions.

1st century breaking news,
believing mortals put on immortality at the Lords second coming
no believers remain mortal at his coming.
Non-believers perish
2thess 1
6 For after all it is only just for God to repay with distress those who distress you, 7 and to give relief to you who are so distressed and to us as well when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in a flame of fire, 8 dealing out [full and complete] vengeance to those who do not [seek to] know God and to those who ignore and refuse to obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus [by choosing not to respond to Him]. 9 These people will pay the penalty and endure the punishment of everlasting destruction, banished from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day [that is, glorified through the changed lives of those who have accepted Him as Savior and have been set apart for His purpose], and to be marveled at among all who have believed, because our testimony to you was believed and trusted [and confirmed in your lives].

11 With this in view, we constantly pray for you, that our God will count you worthy of your calling [to faith] and with [His] power fulfill every desire for goodness, and complete [your] every work of faith, 12 so that the name of our Lord Jesus will be glorified in you [by what you do], and you in Him, according to the [precious] grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

No mortals remain at His coming? BUMMER....
Gee....WHO are the kings and lords, he rules OVER as KING of kings and Lord of lords...?

Ya think perhaps YOU will put on immortality and become made a “king” or “lord” and OF WHAT?

 

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Do you accept that the figure “a thousand” (including a thousand years) and ten thousand are repeatedly used in Scripture to denote a vast indeterminate amount or period of time?

Moses employs `a thousand' in Deuteronomy 7:9 saying, "Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations."

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

1 Chronicles 16:13-17 also states, "O ye seed of Israel his servant, ye children of Jacob, his chosen ones. He is the LORD our God; his judgments are in all the earth. Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations; Even of the covenant which he made with Abraham, and of his oath unto Isaac; And hath confirmed the same to Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant."

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

A thousand and ten thousand are used together in Psalm 91, saying, "Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday. A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee" (vv 5-7).

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

A similar contrast between these two numbers or ideas is seen in Deuteronomy 32:30, where a rhetorical question is asked, "How should one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight, except their Rock had sold them, and the Lord had shut them up?"

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

Joshua affirms, on the same vein, in chapter 23, "One man of you shall chase a thousand: for the LORD your God, he it is that fighteth for you, as he hath promised you" (v 10).

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

Isaiah the prophet similarly declares in Isaiah 30:17, "one thousand shall flee at the rebuke of one."

This incidentally is the only passage in Scripture that makes mention of the actual number "one thousand," albeit, the term is used to impress a spiritual truth.

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

Psalm 84:9-10 says, "Behold, O God our shield, and look upon the face of thine anointed. For a day in thy courts is better than a thousand. I had rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God, than to dwell in the tents of wickedness."

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

The figure a thousand is also employed in Psalm 50:10-11 saying, "For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills. I know all the fowls of the mountains: and the wild beasts of the field are mine."

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

Ecclesiastes 7:27-28 succinctly says, "one man among a thousand have I found."

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

In the same vein, Job 33:23 declares, "If there be a messenger with him, an interpreter, one among a thousand, to shew unto man his uprightness."

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

The distinct contrast between one and a thousand is again found in Job 9:2-3, where Job declares, "I know it is so of a truth: but how should man be just with God? If he will contend with him, he cannot answer him one of a thousand."

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

Will answer your first question.
A thousand YEARS and A thousand GENERATIONS, are not compatible of the same things.

Your first comment is so ridiculous, I have no intent to further consider your folly.

 

[WPM]

Will answer your first question.
A thousand YEARS and A thousand GENERATIONS, are not compatible of the same things.

Your first comment is so ridiculous, I have no intent to further consider your folly.

Everything you say is easily and soundly refuted and you have no answer. That is why you have to resort to insults.

Nowhere else in Scripture does it teach that there will be a literal 1,000 years after the second coming that is sin-cursed, goat-infested, death-blighted and war-ravaged. Neither the Old Testament prophets, Christ, Paul, Peter, Jude nor any other New Testament writer describes one.

The same applies to the Old Testament. John Metcalfe rightly says in relation to the Holy Spirit’s use of the phrase “a thousand” in the Old Testament, in a booklet ‘Premillennialism Exposed’, “One reads of a thousand hills, a thousand vines, a thousand Philistines, a thousand children of Bigvai, a thousand Ammonites, a thousand spears, a thousand camels, a thousand horses, a thousand chariots, a thousand judges, a thousand bullocks, a thousand rams, but never of a thousand years reign, no, not from Genesis to Malachi.”

And continues, “One can discover a thousand shields for a thousand Israelites, a thousand cubits and a thousand footmen to traverse them, a thousand talents and a thousand oxen to carry them, a thousand silver pieces and a thousand Edomites to covet them, a thousand baths and a thousand men to bathe in them, but what no one can find, no, not one of a thousand, is a thousand years reign at the end of time with the second coming of Christ preceding this millennial invention.”

 

[WPM]

No mortals remain at His coming? BUMMER....
Gee....WHO are the kings and lords, he rules OVER as KING of kings and Lord of lords...?

Ya think perhaps YOU will put on immortality and become made a “king” or “lord” and OF WHAT?

Where do you get that in Rev 20?

 

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Not news, scripture to back up your wild assertions.

1st century breaking news,
believing mortals put on immortality at the Lords second coming
no believers remain mortal at his coming.
Non-believers perish
2thess 1
6 For after all it is only just for God to repay with distress those who distress you, 7 and to give relief to you who are so distressed and to us as well when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in a flame of fire, 8 dealing out [full and complete] vengeance to those who do not [seek to] know God and to those who ignore and refuse to obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus [by choosing not to respond to Him]. 9 These people will pay the penalty and endure the punishment of everlasting destruction, banished from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day [that is, glorified through the changed lives of those who have accepted Him as Savior and have been set apart for His purpose], and to be marveled at among all who have believed, because our testimony to you was believed and trusted [and confirmed in your lives].

11 With this in view, we constantly pray for you, that our God will count you worthy of your calling [to faith] and with [His] power fulfill every desire for goodness, and complete [your] every work of faith, 12 so that the name of our Lord Jesus will be glorified in you [by what you do], and you in Him, according to the [precious] grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Not news, the Converted IN Christ put on immortality BEFORE the Tribulation Begins.

Not news, the News of the Son of Man having come down from Heaven, was spread by word of mouth.

Not news, A FEW witnessed the Son of Man rising up to Heaven, losing SIGHT of Him in the Clouds.

Not news, the WHOLE World will SEE the Son of Mans RETURN, sitting On a White Clouds, WITH Clouds.

Not news, He returns WITH CLOUDS.

Hummm, guess you haven’t figured out CLOUDS obscure an earthly mans SIGHT....maybe you should WONDER what is IN the clouds MORTALS can not SEE.

 

[WPM]

Not news, the Converted IN Christ put on immortality BEFORE the Tribulation Begins.

Not news, the News of the Son of Man having come down from Heaven, was spread by word of mouth.

Not news, A FEW witnessed the Son of Man rising up to Heaven, losing SIGHT of Him in the Clouds.

Not news, the WHOLE World will SEE the Son of Mans RETURN, sitting On a White Clouds, WITH Clouds.

Not news, He returns WITH CLOUDS.

Hummm, guess you haven’t figured out CLOUDS obscure an earthly mans SIGHT....maybe you should WONDER what is IN the clouds MORTALS can not SEE.

Please quote hard Scripture that teaches this instead of always voicing your opinions. Your theology seems to be built upon private interpretation.

 

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Check mate! Everything you say is easily and soundly refuted and you have no answer. That is why you have to resort to insults.

Nowhere else in Scripture does it teach that there will be a literal 1,000 years after the second coming that is sin-cursed, goat-infested, death-blighted and war-ravaged. Neither the Old Testament prophets, Christ, Paul, Peter, Jude nor any other New Testament writer describes one.

The same applies to the Old Testament. John Metcalfe rightly says in relation to the Holy Spirit’s use of the phrase “a thousand” in the Old Testament, in a booklet ‘Premillennialism Exposed’, “One reads of a thousand hills, a thousand vines, a thousand Philistines, a thousand children of Bigvai, a thousand Ammonites, a thousand spears, a thousand camels, a thousand horses, a thousand chariots, a thousand judges, a thousand bullocks, a thousand rams, but never of a thousand years reign, no, not from Genesis to Malachi.”

And continues, “One can discover a thousand shields for a thousand Israelites, a thousand cubits and a thousand footmen to traverse them, a thousand talents and a thousand oxen to carry them, a thousand silver pieces and a thousand Edomites to covet them, a thousand baths and a thousand men to bathe in them, but what no one can find, no, not one of a thousand, is a thousand years reign at the end of time with the second coming of Christ preceding this millennial invention.”

Check mate....is actually spelled checkmate....but that is not half as funny as you pretending you are the JUDGE of your concocted GAME.... LOL

I would suppose you were one of those kids who made up games, rules, then by your judgement determined yourself the winner....rolleyes

 

[jeffweeder]

LOL...nope. I’m pretty confident a millennium is a thousand years duration.
Scripture says a thousand years.
From Latin translation..Latin "Mille" which means 1,000 and "annus" which means year.

Since you yourself use the word, I though you might have known what it meant. Seems that is not the case.

A thousand years is an Express Revelation in Scripture...SIX times.
If the teaching is beyond your scope of reasoning, that would be your problem, not mine.

There is a Greek word for "a thousand" used in Rev 20
and a Greek word for "one thousand" used elsewhere in scripture.

I am wondering why "one thousand" wasn't used to describe rev 20 if it really meant one thousand literal years.

No mortals remain at His coming? BUMMER....

Its actually good news as we finally come into our promised inheritance. Matt 25 and Rev 21

Gee....WHO are the kings and lords, he rules OVER as KING of kings and Lord of lords...?

Message to the Seven Churches​

4 John, to the seven churches that are in [the province of] Asia: Grace [be granted] to you and peace [inner calm and spiritual well-being], from Him Who is [existing forever] and Who was [continually existing in the past] and Who is to come, and from the seven Spirits that are before His throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful and trustworthy Witness, the Firstborn of the dead, and the Ruler of the kings of the earth.

To Him who [always] loves us and who [has once for all] freed us [or washed us] from our sins by His own blood (His sacrificial death)— 6 and formed us into a kingdom [as His subjects], priests to His God and Father—to Him be the glory and the power and the majesty and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.
7 Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes (nations) of the earth will mourn over Him [realizing their sin and guilt, and anticipating the coming wrath]. So it is to be. Amen.

8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega [the Beginning and the End],” says the Lord God, “Who is [existing forever] and Who was [continually existing in the past] and Who is to come, the Almighty [the Omnipotent, the Ruler of all].”


Do you notice the tense???

Ya think perhaps YOU will put on immortality and become made a “king” or “lord” and OF WHAT?

Notice the tense above Taken.

What is the point of your temporary reign in the future when it's a complete bust.

How does this exactly assist us in our eternal inheritance?

 

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Please quote hard Scripture that teaches this instead of always voicing your opinions. Your theology seems to be built upon private interpretation.

Acts 1:
[9] And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
[10] And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
[11] Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

1 Thes 4:
[16] For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
[17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


Matt 24:
[30] And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Rev 1:
[7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Rev 14:
[14] And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

1 Thes 3:
[13] To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.

 

[jeffweeder]

Not news, the Converted IN Christ put on immortality BEFORE the Tribulation Begins.

That is fake news without scripture that states this specifically.

Not news, the News of the Son of Man having come down from Heaven, was spread by word of mouth.

Fake news

Not news, A FEW witnessed the Son of Man rising up to Heaven, losing SIGHT of Him in the Clouds.

But every eye see him coming back. How can anyone miss Jesus coming again in the Glory of His Father?

Not news, the WHOLE World will SEE the Son of Mans RETURN, sitting On a White Clouds, WITH Clouds.

Not news, He returns WITH CLOUDS.

Hummm, guess you haven’t figured out CLOUDS obscure an earthly mans SIGHT....maybe you should WONDER what is IN the clouds MORTALS can not SEE.

What? Does every eye see him or not?

 

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There is a Greek word for "a thousand" used in Rev 20
and a Greek word for "one thousand" used elsewhere in scripture.

I am wondering why "one thousand" wasn't used to describe rev 20 if it really meant one thousand literal years.

Its actually good news as we finally come into our promised inheritance. Matt 25 and Rev 21

Message to the Seven Churches​

4 John, to the seven churches that are in [the province of] Asia: Grace [be granted] to you and peace [inner calm and spiritual well-being], from Him Who is [existing forever] and Who was [continually existing in the past] and Who is to come, and from the seven Spirits that are before His throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful and trustworthy Witness, the Firstborn of the dead, and the Ruler of the kings of the earth.

To Him who [always] loves us and who [has once for all] freed us [or washed us] from our sins by His own blood (His sacrificial death)— 6 and formed us into a kingdom [as His subjects], priests to His God and Father—to Him be the glory and the power and the majesty and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.
7 Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes (nations) of the earth will mourn over Him [realizing their sin and guilt, and anticipating the coming wrath]. So it is to be. Amen.

8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega [the Beginning and the End],” says the Lord God, “Who is [existing forever] and Who was [continually existing in the past] and Who is to come, the Almighty [the Omnipotent, the Ruler of all].”


Do you notice the tense???



Notice the tense above Taken.

What is the point of your temporary reign in the future when it's a complete bust.

How does this exactly assist us in our eternal inheritance?

Are you amiss what “a thousand years” means?

Rev 20
[2] And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
[4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
[6] Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

I hardly call millions of men BELIEVING mortal men dying DURING the THOUSAND YEAR REIGN OF Christ Jesus.......A BUST!

Are you amiss that mortal men who DIE IN BELIEF “IN” Jesus become soul SAV-ED after their bodily Death?
And at the END of the Tribulation, God SHALL quicken their spirit and RAISE UP their body in a glorious body?

1 Thes 4:
[14] For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

Do you not know the difference between....in Jesus and in Christ?

 

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That is fake news without scripture that states this specifically.

Fake news

But every eye see him coming back. How can anyone miss Jesus coming again in the Glory of His Father?


What? Does every eye see him or not?

It’s FAKE news to you, the Lord descends to the Clouds, calls up to Him those in Christ TO MEET Christ the Lord and they can’t SEE Him?
What mortals are going to float up into the clouds?
LOL...

It’s FAKE news to you that the Word of God was spread by word of mouth....
You still wondering WHY Jesus SENT men out to ORALLY Preach, but you don’t know WHAT they were Preaching?
LOL...

You are still wondering “IF” every eye WILL SEE the Him...?
Just gave that information.
Why do you not search the Scripture and verify for yourself? Rev 1:7

 

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There is a Greek word for "a thousand" used in Rev 20
and a Greek word for "one thousand" used elsewhere in scripture.

I am wondering why "one thousand" wasn't used to describe rev 20 if it really meant one thousand literal years.

Its actually good news as we finally come into our promised inheritance. Matt 25 and Rev 21

Message to the Seven Churches​

4 John, to the seven churches that are in [the province of] Asia: Grace [be granted] to you and peace [inner calm and spiritual well-being], from Him Who is [existing forever] and Who was [continually existing in the past] and Who is to come, and from the seven Spirits that are before His throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful and trustworthy Witness, the Firstborn of the dead, and the Ruler of the kings of the earth.

To Him who [always] loves us and who [has once for all] freed us [or washed us] from our sins by His own blood (His sacrificial death)— 6 and formed us into a kingdom [as His subjects], priests to His God and Father—to Him be the glory and the power and the majesty and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.
7 Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes (nations) of the earth will mourn over Him [realizing their sin and guilt, and anticipating the coming wrath]. So it is to be. Amen.

8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega [the Beginning and the End],” says the Lord God, “Who is [existing forever] and Who was [continually existing in the past] and Who is to come, the Almighty [the Omnipotent, the Ruler of all].”


Do you notice the tense???



Notice the tense above Taken.

What is the point of your temporary reign in the future when it's a complete bust.

How does this exactly assist us in our eternal inheritance?

Mankind’s eternal inheritance IS eternal Life WITH God.
Gods inheritance IS converted Mortals WITH God forever.

 

[jeffweeder]

Are you amiss what “a thousand years” means?

It seems to refer to something different in understanding than the word for "one thousand"

I hardly call millions of men BELIEVING mortal men dying DURING the THOUSAND YEAR REIGN OF Christ Jesus.......A BUST!

I have already pointed out the scripture that states that mortal believers are changed to glory at his second coming...not during the future millennium. Focus.

Are you amiss that mortal men who DIE IN BELIEF “IN” Jesus become soul SAV-ED after their bodily Death?
And at the END of the Tribulation, God SHALL quicken their spirit and RAISE UP their body in a glorious body?

1 Thes 4:
[14] For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

Do you not know the difference between....in Jesus and in Christ?

Not amiss at all. At the Lords appearing the living and the dead in Christ Jesus will be changed to have a body like his glorious body.

Philippians 3:20-21

Amplified Bible​

20 But [we are different, because] our citizenship is in heaven. And from there we eagerly await [the coming of] the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ; 21 who, by exerting that power which enables Him even to subject everything to Himself, will [not only] transform [but completely refashion] our earthly bodies so that they will be like His glorious resurrected body.

1 John 3:2
Beloved, we are [even here and] now children of God, and it is not yet made clear what we will be [after His coming]. We know that when He comes and is revealed, we will [as His children] be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is [in all His glory].

 

[jeffweeder]

It’s FAKE news to you, the Lord descends to the Clouds, calls up to Him those in Christ TO MEET Christ the Lord and they can’t SEE Him?
What mortals are going to float up into the clouds?
LOL...

It’s FAKE news to you that the Word of God was spread by word of mouth....
You still wondering WHY Jesus SENT men out to ORALLY Preach, but you don’t know WHAT they were Preaching?
LOL...

You are still wondering “IF” every eye WILL SEE the Him...?
Just gave that information.
Why do you not search the Scripture and verify for yourself? Rev 1:7

Stop trying to twist and avoid what I am really saying ok.

 

[WPM]

It’s FAKE news to you, the Lord descends to the Clouds, calls up to Him those in Christ TO MEET Christ the Lord and they can’t SEE Him?
What mortals are going to float up into the clouds?
LOL...

It’s FAKE news to you that the Word of God was spread by word of mouth....
You still wondering WHY Jesus SENT men out to ORALLY Preach, but you don’t know WHAT they were Preaching?
LOL...

You are still wondering “IF” every eye WILL SEE the Him...?
Just gave that information.
Why do you not search the Scripture and verify for yourself? Rev 1:7

No. We all accept the catching away. What we reject is you forcing 7 years and 1000 years after this. It is not in the text. It is fake news. Your teachers have deceived you. The face you cannot show Scripture that teaches this is damning to your theology.

 

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No. We all accept the catching away. What we reject is you forcing 7 years and 1000 years after this. It is not in the text. It is fake news. Your teachers have deceived you. The face you cannot show Scripture that teaches this is damning to your theology.

I mentioned the Next future coming tribulation.

Matt 24:
[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Forcing on you? Nope. I never mentioned 7 years but Scripture does...
But highly doubt you would understand that any more than the 1,000 year reign of Christ.

Rev 20
[4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
[6] Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

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Stop trying to twist and avoid what I am really saying ok.

I didn’t twist anything. I responded to your claims.

 

[Truth7t7]

Fact is claims you make for others, does not line up with what others claim.
Fact is what you claim lines up with Scripture, Doesn’t line up with Scripture.

Christ Jesus DOES HAVE an earthly Kingdom for 1,000 years.
Mortals DO Have earthly kingdoms during the SAME 1,000 years.
Christ Jesus’ Kingdom is NOT Corrupt.
Mortal kingdoms are NOT Corrupt.

Nothing new, mortals are born, live, work to care for their own, laugh, cry, experience joy, experience disappointments, sadness, die, return to the earth.

You suggest a 1,000 years of wars, murders, thievery, corruption .... all under the RULE of the King of kings...Christ Jesus.

Seems you are utterly out of step in understanding Jesus IS the Word of God and Christ IS the Power of God.....and according to you....
The Ultimate KING, Christ Jesus, Ruling the World, will be Christ Jesus RULING a World that “you” (not Scripture) has determined IS A WORLD “compared” to this PRESENT CORRUPT WORLD.

UH NO!

Maybe you should have STUDIED Scripture.
Maybe you should have taken 5 minutes of your time to read though what I said.
Maybe you would have had an “ah ha moment” and went and searched the Scriptures to learn what the POINT IS for the Son of Man.....TO REAP the EARTH....

Ya think, maybe He is REAPING the Earth to gather up all the liars, cheats, thieves, murders, unbelievers, anti-Gods, anti-Christ.......FOR THEM to establish Corrupt mortal kingdoms surrounding His Kingdom? rolleyes

Your living in a fairy tale dream not found in scripture, you have nobody fooled but yourself

A 1,000 year Kingdom on earth, as Jesus sits on a throne in Jerusalem, as human mortals are dying physical death around him "Morbid"!

Jesus Christ overcame death in the resurrection, and you now want to take him from the right hand of the Father, and make him chief funeral director in your millennial kingdom "Sick"!

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[WPM]

I mentioned the Next future coming tribulation.

Matt 24:
[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Forcing on you? Nope. I never mentioned 7 years but Scripture does...
But highly doubt you would understand that any more than the 1,000 year reign of Christ.

Rev 20
[4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
[6] Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Stop avoiding. Where is your rapture passage showing a 7 years trib or any trib duration after?

As for Rev 20, we all accept that. Amils and Postmils just believe it is ongoing since the first resurrection.