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So there is nothing "created" that "remains natural" in your so-called future millennium? That is a contradiction to what you have been teaching. You have a millennium full of mortal sinners. Hello! Do you not see the folly of what you are arguing?

The bondage of corruption is actually the fallen part of natural creation. It pertains to everything the curse has blighted with death and decay.

You appear to have a problem with the difference between “hearing” and “understanding” what you hear.

* I didn’t establish a “so called future millennium”...as you keep saying.
* The prophetic future Revelation “is a teaching revealed” By God.
Rev 1:
[1] The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him...

* I didn’t say there is “nothing created that remains natural during the millennium”...as you say.

* The “contradiction”, is you speaking, then disagreeing with yourself.
* The “folly”, is your “gaslighting”.

You ARE accountable for what you say.
I am NOT accountable for what you say.

I say what I believe, in accordance with Scripture.
You REWORD what I say, THEN disagree.
I am NOT accountable for WHAT you say.
Curiously VOID, is your Testimony of what you believe.
Obvious, is your Gaslighting.

It has ZERO effect ON Me;
* if you FAIL to KNOW what Gods Word Teaches.
* if you hear Gods Word and REJECT believing Gods Word.
* if you hear Gods Word and STAND AGAINST the speaker of Gods Word.

Your “gaslighting” is a Fail.
I have NO shame to repeat Gods Word.
I will not be SILENCED from repeating Gods Word.



~ The Son of Man, was Sent to Earth “humbled”.
~ He Taught and Revealed MUCH Knowledge that had been KEPT SECRET.
....WARNING......ANOTHER TRIBULATION FROM HEAVEN SHALL COME UPON THE EARTH TO DESTROY EARTH AND ANTI-GOD INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH.

~ Once ALL He was SENT to Accomplish...WAS Accomplished...
~ He RETURNED to HEAVEN.


~ Living mortal men WHO listened, heard, read, believed, responded in Agreement....... TO the Son of Mans TEACHINGS......Were “MADE” ...
(Forgiven, Covered, Sanctified, Justified...to forever BE with God)

~ The Lord SHALL descend from Heaven and call up to Him, Christ’s Church. (They are part of the forgiven, covered, sanctified, justified).

~ ALL shall SEE the Son of Man (with Power) sitting on a White Cloud.
~ The Son of Man (with Power) SHALL reap the Earth.
~ A remnant of mortal BELIEVERS shall Remain ALIVE ON Earth.
~ NON-Believing mortals shall be KILLED.
~ THE Devil and ALL spirit angels that follow the Devil are SENT to Hell.
~ The Son of Man (with Power), Claims His Inheritance;
~ He IS: King of kings...Lord of lords
~ His Kingdom IS:
...Abraham’s Promised Land and king David’s Throne.

~ WITH Him ON EARTH;
...IS: His Holy Angels and His Redeemed Sanctified Converted and the Reaped Mortal Believers.
~ His Holy Angels and His Redeemed Converted...are citizens of His Kingdom.
~ The Believing mortal remnants...are kings and citizens of their mortal kingdoms.

~ AS IN ANY mortal kingdom (nation, country)...with a mortal king (governing head, president, chairman, etc.).......THEY GOVERN over their kingdoms, according to a SET OF ESTABLISHED DOCTRINES.
~ The SET of DOCTRINES of a “BELIEVER” ARE “Gods ESTABLISHED DOCTRINES”.


Remember....the reaping? Remember....the remnant of mortal kings and mortal citizens of mortal kingdoms ARE Believers!

Remember...Influence OF Gods Word...IS Present IN Christ Jesus’ Kingdom ON Earth!

Remember...Influence of the Devils and other fallen angels ARE BOUND IN Hell.


~ FOR and DURING “one thousand years”... BELIEVING mortal men shall occupy their earthly kingdoms. Being born, marrying, reproducing offspring, living, building homes, raising crops and animals, bartering, trading amongst themselves and other kingdoms, dying, burying their dead, the next generation, seating a new king, the people repeating as their ancestors, did BELIEVE, Praising God, work, build, trade, etc.
According TO the SAME as God Taught from the Beginning of mankind.


Remember...FORGIVENESS and CONVERSION being Taught, BEFORE a moral mans Physical Death?

Remember...Whose Influential Presence IS Constant ON EARTH for those 1,000 Years? Ding, ding, ding....Christ Jesus THE KING above all other kings, Christ Jesus’ Holy Angels and Christ Jesus’ Converted saints.

~ WHAT CHANGES....at
the ENDING of the 1,000 years Timeframe?

~ WHO is ALLOWED....TO ALSO INFLUENCE Living mortals, WHO are alive kings and citizens of moral kingdoms LIVING DURING the LAST DAYS of the 1,000 year Timeframe?

~ AFTER the 1,000 years.........NOT DURING the 1,000 years!!
Satan and his minions are released from Hell and ALLOWED to INFLUENCE mortal men of mortal kingdoms...(whom...ding, ding, ding...have an EXPRESS 1,000 year old History of Gods Word and have Experienced the Blessing of God)....

~ AND? Nothing new under the sun.... Mortal men are weak, and greedy, and eager to open their EARS to cunning lying, promises, underhanded plots and jump onboard in hopes to satisfy their greed.

~ It’s the FINALLY...
God IS JUST...
Every individual man WILL RECEIVE Exactly that which they Freely Choose.


* You propose that you DENY Christ Jesus’ 1,000 Year Earthly Kingdom.
* You propose that you DENY Christ Jesus’ IS KING of His 1,000 Year Earthly Kingdom.
* You propose that “IF” such mortal kingdoms “SHALL EXIST” it is full of “anti-God” mortal sinners.

You repeatedly reveal your LACK of Knowing Gods Word revealed IN Scripture, and sorely LACK the Understanding of Gods Word.

Mortal BELIEVERS....are NEITHER...anti-God or Converted simply because they BELIEVE. They ARE “FOLLOWERS” of what they BELIEVE.

A CONVERT...is a heartful CONFESSED BELIEVER...who has been MADE “restored”, by the Power of God.

Again...what you say, is accountable to you...not me.
Again...what you believe, is accountable to you...not me.
Again...what you do, is accountable to you....not me.


Glory to God,
Taken
 

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Sci-Fi Millennium, Episode 13

Jesus Jumps off his Millennial throne, as Satan is let loose after a 1,000 years, and Jesus returns back to earth with the saints to defeat Satan at Gog-Magog

Yes they believe this fictional fairy tale, a sequel to the Sci-Fi Left Behind Series

Big Smiles!

You proposing a FICTIONAL scenario then calling it Sci-Fi IS CORRECT.

You proposing a FICTIONAL scenario then with desperate “GASLIGHTING” attempts TRY to MAKE YOUR FICTIONAL scenario “Others Beliefs”...
IS...underhanded, false and disingenuous.....and BTW...SATANS own oldest Trick in the book!

You should have Learned standing against Believers of Gods Word IS one thing.......called persecution.

You should have Learned men promoting other men to stand against Gods Word IS another thing.....called wicked.

You should have Learned fallen angels promoting men to stand against Gods Word IS another things....called evil.

You should learn persecutors, wicked, evil...have no place WITH God.

You might Consider being more attentive to your own Standing, before going off on some repetitive fictional accusatory rampage.
 

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Sci-Fi Millennium, Episode 13

Jesus Jumps off his Millennial throne, as Satan is let loose after a 1,000 years, and Jesus returns back to earth with the saints to defeat Satan at Gog-Magog

Yes they believe this fictional fairy tale, a sequel to the Sci-Fi Left Behind Series

Big Smiles!

Jesus Leaves His Millennial EARTHLY Throne...
Then RETURNS to EARTH...

LOL.. what a load of nonsense.
 

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You appear to have a problem with the difference between “hearing” and “understanding” what you hear.

* I didn’t establish a “so called future millennium”...as you keep saying.
* The prophetic future Revelation “is a teaching revealed” By God.
Rev 1:
[1] The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him...

* I didn’t say there is “nothing created that remains natural during the millennium”...as you say.

* The “contradiction”, is you speaking, then disagreeing with yourself.
* The “folly”, is your “gaslighting”.

You ARE accountable for what you say.
I am NOT accountable for what you say.

I say what I believe, in accordance with Scripture.
You REWORD what I say, THEN disagree.
I am NOT accountable for WHAT you say.
Curiously VOID, is your Testimony of what you believe.
Obvious, is your Gaslighting.

It has ZERO effect ON Me;
* if you FAIL to KNOW what Gods Word Teaches.
* if you hear Gods Word and REJECT believing Gods Word.
* if you hear Gods Word and STAND AGAINST the speaker of Gods Word.

Your “gaslighting” is a Fail.
I have NO shame to repeat Gods Word.
I will not be SILENCED from repeating Gods Word.



~ The Son of Man, was Sent to Earth “humbled”.
~ He Taught and Revealed MUCH Knowledge that had been KEPT SECRET.
....WARNING......ANOTHER TRIBULATION FROM HEAVEN SHALL COME UPON THE EARTH TO DESTROY EARTH AND ANTI-GOD INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH.

~ Once ALL He was SENT to Accomplish...WAS Accomplished...
~ He RETURNED to HEAVEN.


~ Living mortal men WHO listened, heard, read, believed, responded in Agreement....... TO the Son of Mans TEACHINGS......Were “MADE” ...
(Forgiven, Covered, Sanctified, Justified...to forever BE with God)

~ The Lord SHALL descend from Heaven and call up to Him, Christ’s Church. (They are part of the forgiven, covered, sanctified, justified).

~ ALL shall SEE the Son of Man (with Power) sitting on a White Cloud.
~ The Son of Man (with Power) SHALL reap the Earth.
~ A remnant of mortal BELIEVERS shall Remain ALIVE ON Earth.
~ NON-Believing mortals shall be KILLED.
~ THE Devil and ALL spirit angels that follow the Devil are SENT to Hell.
~ The Son of Man (with Power), Claims His Inheritance;
~ He IS: King of kings...Lord of lords
~ His Kingdom IS:
...Abraham’s Promised Land and king David’s Throne.

~ WITH Him ON EARTH;
...IS: His Holy Angels and His Redeemed Sanctified Converted and the Reaped Mortal Believers.
~ His Holy Angels and His Redeemed Converted...are citizens of His Kingdom.
~ The Believing mortal remnants...are kings and citizens of their mortal kingdoms.

~ AS IN ANY mortal kingdom (nation, country)...with a mortal king (governing head, president, chairman, etc.).......THEY GOVERN over their kingdoms, according to a SET OF ESTABLISHED DOCTRINES.
~ The SET of DOCTRINES of a “BELIEVER” ARE “Gods ESTABLISHED DOCTRINES”.


Remember....the reaping? Remember....the remnant of mortal kings and mortal citizens of mortal kingdoms ARE Believers!

Remember...Influence OF Gods Word...IS Present IN Christ Jesus’ Kingdom ON Earth!

Remember...Influence of the Devils and other fallen angels ARE BOUND IN Hell.


~ FOR and DURING “one thousand years”... BELIEVING mortal men shall occupy their earthly kingdoms. Being born, marrying, reproducing offspring, living, building homes, raising crops and animals, bartering, trading amongst themselves and other kingdoms, dying, burying their dead, the next generation, seating a new king, the people repeating as their ancestors, did BELIEVE, Praising God, work, build, trade, etc.
According TO the SAME as God Taught from the Beginning of mankind.


Remember...FORGIVENESS and CONVERSION being Taught, BEFORE a moral mans Physical Death?

Remember...Whose Influential Presence IS Constant ON EARTH for those 1,000 Years? Ding, ding, ding....Christ Jesus THE KING above all other kings, Christ Jesus’ Holy Angels and Christ Jesus’ Converted saints.

~ WHAT CHANGES....at
the ENDING of the 1,000 years Timeframe?

~ WHO is ALLOWED....TO ALSO INFLUENCE Living mortals, WHO are alive kings and citizens of moral kingdoms LIVING DURING the LAST DAYS of the 1,000 year Timeframe?

~ AFTER the 1,000 years.........NOT DURING the 1,000 years!!
Satan and his minions are released from Hell and ALLOWED to INFLUENCE mortal men of mortal kingdoms...(whom...ding, ding, ding...have an EXPRESS 1,000 year old History of Gods Word and have Experienced the Blessing of God)....

~ AND? Nothing new under the sun.... Mortal men are weak, and greedy, and eager to open their EARS to cunning lying, promises, underhanded plots and jump onboard in hopes to satisfy their greed.

~ It’s the FINALLY...
God IS JUST...
Every individual man WILL RECEIVE Exactly that which they Freely Choose.


* You propose that you DENY Christ Jesus’ 1,000 Year Earthly Kingdom.
* You propose that you DENY Christ Jesus’ IS KING of His 1,000 Year Earthly Kingdom.
* You propose that “IF” such mortal kingdoms “SHALL EXIST” it is full of “anti-God” mortal sinners.

You repeatedly reveal your LACK of Knowing Gods Word revealed IN Scripture, and sorely LACK the Understanding of Gods Word.

Mortal BELIEVERS....are NEITHER...anti-God or Converted simply because they BELIEVE. They ARE “FOLLOWERS” of what they BELIEVE.

A CONVERT...is a heartful CONFESSED BELIEVER...who has been MADE “restored”, by the Power of God

Again...what you say, is accountable to you...not me.
Again...what you believe, is accountable to you...not me.
Again...what you do, is accountable to you....not me.


Glory to God,
Taken

There is zero chance of me reading through your lengthy gibberish. Address the issue at hand instead of sidetracking. The reason why you duck around the obvious is because you know your future millennium is enveloped in corruption and overrun by the wicked.
 
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There is zero chance of me reading through your lengthy gibberish. Address the issue at hand instead of sidetracking. The reason why you duck around the obvious is because you know your future millennium is enveloped in corruption and overrun by the wicked.

Gibberish is meaningless speech.
If you consider discussing the Word of God meaningless speech, that is to your own detriment.

The ONLY issue at hand is your gaslighting.
You can disagree with me.
You can state your own beliefs.
However pretending you are qualified to put your words in my mouth, is a fail.
 

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One of the main problems Premillennialism has is that it has a glorified Jesus bringing back all the redeemed of all the ages that have enjoyed perfect communion with Christ in His majestic heavenly presence since the time He defeated sin and death 2000 years ago, giving them new eternal incorruptible bodies at His second coming, along with the living in Christ, rewarding them with eternal bliss, and then bringing them back to a corruptible millennial earth filled with degenerates, death, decay and depravity, just like our present day. It is just another re-run of our current evil age.

Premillennialism has saints that have been delivered from a sinful world thousands of years ago being forced to come back to watch the folly of the rebuilding of a new temple, the debacle of futile animal sacrifices, the restoration of the old covenant priesthood, continued sin, death and decay. Finally, the saints will have to engage in literal physical spiritual warfare in their glorified bodies with Satan and his global mortal army – Gog and Magog. They will be confronted with the awful sight of Satan being released from his prison to mobilize a global assault upon Jesus and the glorified saints in earthly Jerusalem. This army will consist of all the millennial mortals that have feigned worship to the Lord Jesus Christ for a thousand years turning in their billions at the drop of a hat from following Jesus to following Satan as the sand of the sea.

This whole portrayal is ridiculous and nonsensical, and will never happen.

Your teaching BEGINS with a FALSE scenario THAT YOU ATTEMPT to puke up as an OTHERS BELIEF.

Christ Jesus’ Earthly Kingdom IS NOT a KINGDOM filled with degenerates, death, decay, depravity!
 

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Gibberish is meaningless speech.
If you consider discussing the Word of God meaningless speech, that is to your own detriment.

The ONLY issue at hand is your gaslighting.
You can disagree with me.
You can state your own beliefs.
However pretending you are qualified to put your words in my mouth, is a fail.

We were actually talking about the same corruption that blights our day blights your future millennium. You cannot even be honest and accept that, because it demolishes your whole thesis.

Amils are looking for a perfect arrangement that is delivered from the bondage of corruption not another age like this one that is plagued by sin and sinners, deception and being deceived, crying and dying, disease and decay, war and terror, Satan and his devils as you argue.
 

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Jesus Leaves His Millennial EARTHLY Throne...
Then RETURNS to EARTH...

LOL.. what a load of nonsense.
There are many forms of Millennialsim, and the majority falsely believe Jesus is going to literally return to this earth and take a throne in Jerusalem ruling for 1,000 years

This majority also belives and teaches Jesus returns a 2nd time in the heavens to a falsely claimed battle of Gog-Magog

Yes in their false teaching they have Satan loosed into the earth realm waging war, and Jesus jumping off a earthly throne and back up into the heavens

Yes this teaching is a Sci-Fi fairytale, Lord Of The Rings episode 10, "Big Smiles"!

Jesus Is The Lord
 

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Your teaching BEGINS with a FALSE scenario THAT YOU ATTEMPT to puke up as an OTHERS BELIEF.

Christ Jesus’ Earthly Kingdom IS NOT a KINGDOM filled with degenerates, death, decay, depravity!
Of course the standard teaching is mortal humans that "Die Physically" are in a Sci-Fi Earthly Kingdom for 1,000 years

Of course the standard teaching is that Satan is loosed at the end of this Sci-Fi 1,000 years, and gathers a wicked world together to a supposed final battle against Jesus Christ at Gog-Magog

If that isn't a Sci-Fi Kingdom full of death, decay, depravity, and degenerates, then you need to come out of your cave on the mountain

Big Smiles!

Jesus Is The Lord
 
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Your teaching BEGINS with a FALSE scenario THAT YOU ATTEMPT to puke up as an OTHERS BELIEF.

Christ Jesus’ Earthly Kingdom IS NOT a KINGDOM filled with degenerates, death, decay, depravity!
  1. Are there mortal believers in your future millennium?
  2. Do they sin?
  3. Are there mortal believers dying in your future millennium?
 

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We were actually talking about the same corruption that blights our day blights your future millennium. You cannot even be honest and accept that, because it demolishes your whole thesis.

Amils are looking for a perfect arrangement that is delivered from the bondage of corruption not another age like this one that is plagued by sin and sinners, deception and being deceived, crying and dying, disease and decay, war and terror, Satan and his devils as you argue.
Fact is claims you make for others, does not line up with what others claim.
Fact is what you claim lines up with Scripture, Doesn’t line up with Scripture.

Christ Jesus DOES HAVE an earthly Kingdom for 1,000 years.
Mortals DO Have earthly kingdoms during the SAME 1,000 years.
Christ Jesus’ Kingdom is NOT Corrupt.
Mortal kingdoms are NOT Corrupt.

Nothing new, mortals are born, live, work to care for their own, laugh, cry, experience joy, experience disappointments, sadness, die, return to the earth.

You suggest a 1,000 years of wars, murders, thievery, corruption .... all under the RULE of the King of kings...Christ Jesus.

Seems you are utterly out of step in understanding Jesus IS the Word of God and Christ IS the Power of God.....and according to you....
The Ultimate KING, Christ Jesus, Ruling the World, will be Christ Jesus RULING a World that “you” (not Scripture) has determined IS A WORLD “compared” to this PRESENT CORRUPT WORLD.

UH NO!


Maybe you should have STUDIED Scripture.
Maybe you should have taken 5 minutes of your time to read though what I said.
Maybe you would have had an “ah ha moment” and went and searched the Scriptures to learn what the POINT IS for the Son of Man.....TO REAP the EARTH....

Ya think, maybe He is REAPING the Earth to gather up all the liars, cheats, thieves, murders, unbelievers, anti-Gods, anti-Christ.......FOR THEM to establish Corrupt mortal kingdoms surrounding His Kingdom? rolleyes
 

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  1. Are there mortal believers in your future millennium?
  2. Do they sin?
  3. Are there mortal believers dying in your future millennium?
1) YAWN....it’s not MY millennium. It’s Christ Jesus’ 1,000 year reign.
2) Mortals ARE naturally born of a mans seed.
...Not news. Mortal mens seeds are Corrupt.
...Not news, Mortals ARE NOT NATURALLY BORN BELIEVING IN GOD!
...Not news, Mortal BELIEVERS Teach their offspring.
...Not news, The Mortal kingdoms will BE a makeup of BELIEVERS.
...Not news, BELIEVING “parents” shall be raising their offspring....
(They will not be delivered and sent off for strangers to raise them...daycares, babysitters, teachers, governments)
...Not news, SIN is Disbelief and Standing Against God.
3) Not news, ALL Mortals shall and MUST DIE.
 

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Fact is claims you make for others, does not line up with what others claim.
Fact is what you claim lines up with Scripture, Doesn’t line up with Scripture.

Christ Jesus DOES HAVE an earthly Kingdom for 1,000 years.
Mortals DO Have earthly kingdoms during the SAME 1,000 years.
Christ Jesus’ Kingdom is NOT Corrupt.
Mortal kingdoms are NOT Corrupt.

Nothing new, mortals are born, live, work to care for their own, laugh, cry, experience joy, experience disappointments, sadness, die, return to the earth.

You suggest a 1,000 years of wars, murders, thievery, corruption .... all under the RULE of the King of kings...Christ Jesus.

Seems you are utterly out of step in understanding Jesus IS the Word of God and Christ IS the Power of God.....and according to you....
The Ultimate KING, Christ Jesus, Ruling the World, will be Christ Jesus RULING a World that “you” (not Scripture) has determined IS A WORLD “compared” to this PRESENT CORRUPT WORLD.

UH NO!


Maybe you should have STUDIED Scripture.
Maybe you should have taken 5 minutes of your time to read though what I said.
Maybe you would have had an “ah ha moment” and went and searched the Scriptures to learn what the POINT IS for the Son of Man.....TO REAP the EARTH....

Ya think, maybe He is REAPING the Earth to gather up all the liars, cheats, thieves, murders, unbelievers, anti-Gods, anti-Christ.......FOR THEM to establish Corrupt mortal kingdoms surrounding His Kingdom? rolleyes

You are avoiding the issue again. You cannot even admit that the bondage of corruption is restarted in your supposed future millennium and prospers to such a degree until it overwhelms your millennium. Multiple Scripture shows Jesus coming to regenerate creation and return it to its original perfect state, not your debacle. I therefore reject your future sin-curse goat-infested death-blighted future millennium.

The reality is: none of this will ever happen. It is a non-corroborated invention of Premil. You cannot support your opinion of Rev 20 with any other text. That is because your view is extra-biblical.
 

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1) YAWN....it’s not MY millennium. It’s Christ Jesus’ 1,000 year reign.
2) Mortals ARE naturally born of a mans seed.
...Not news. Mortal mens seeds are Corrupt.
...Not news, Mortals ARE NOT NATURALLY BORN BELIEVING IN GOD!
...Not news, Mortal BELIEVERS Teach their offspring.
...Not news, The Mortal kingdoms will BE a makeup of BELIEVERS.
...Not news, BELIEVING “parents” shall be raising their offspring....
(They will not be delivered and sent off for strangers to raise them...daycares, babysitters, teachers, governments)
...Not news, SIN is Disbelief and Standing Against God.
3) Not news, ALL Mortals shall and MUST DIE.

It is your millennium. It is not a biblical millennium. It is a figment of your imagination. It is blighted by the curse so it cannot relate to the age to come where there is no more sin and sinners, dying and crying, decay and disease, war and terror, and Satan and his minions.
 
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1) YAWN....it’s not MY millennium. It’s Christ Jesus’ 1,000 year reign.
2) Mortals ARE naturally born of a mans seed.
...Not news. Mortal mens seeds are Corrupt.
...Not news, Mortals ARE NOT NATURALLY BORN BELIEVING IN GOD!
...Not news, Mortal BELIEVERS Teach their offspring.
...Not news, The Mortal kingdoms will BE a makeup of BELIEVERS.
...Not news, BELIEVING “parents” shall be raising their offspring....
(They will not be delivered and sent off for strangers to raise them...daycares, babysitters, teachers, governments)
...Not news, SIN is Disbelief and Standing Against God.
3) Not news, ALL Mortals shall and MUST DIE.
Not news, scripture to back up your wild assertions.

1st century breaking news,
believing mortals put on immortality at the Lords second coming
no believers remain mortal at his coming.

Non-believers perish

2thess 1
6 For after all it is only just for God to repay with distress those who distress you, 7 and to give relief to you who are so distressed and to us as well when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in a flame of fire, 8 dealing out [full and complete] vengeance to those who do not [seek to] know God and to those who ignore and refuse to obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus [by choosing not to respond to Him]. 9 These people will pay the penalty and endure the punishment of everlasting destruction, banished from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day [that is, glorified through the changed lives of those who have accepted Him as Savior and have been set apart for His purpose], and to be marveled at among all who have believed, because our testimony to you was believed and trusted [and confirmed in your lives].

11 With this in view, we constantly pray for you, that our God will count you worthy of your calling [to faith] and with [His] power fulfill every desire for goodness, and complete [your] every work of faith, 12 so that the name of our Lord Jesus will be glorified in you [by what you do], and you in Him, according to the [precious] grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
 
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There are many forms of Millennialsim, and the majority falsely believe Jesus is going to literally return to this earth and take a throne in Jerusalem ruling for 1,000 years

This majority also belives and teaches Jesus returns a 2nd time in the heavens to a falsely claimed battle of Gog-Magog

Yes in their false teaching they have Satan loosed into the earth realm waging war, and Jesus jumping off a earthly throne and back up into the heavens

Yes this teaching is a Sci-Fi fairytale, Lord Of The Rings episode 10, "Big Smiles"!

Jesus Is The Lord

The Son of Man....Was Sent to Earth (humbled)
The Son of Man...Shall Return to Earth (with Power)

The Son of Man....IS entitled to His inheritance of Abraham’s Promised Land.
The Son of Man....IS entitled to His inheritance of king David’s Throne.

Your objection to the Son of Man, returning to Earth and His inheritances, is utterly Irrelevant.
Nothing whatsoever in Gods Word remotely indicates God seeks YOUR COUNCIL for what He can and can not do.

AT the END of Christ Jesus’ 1,000 year reign....
(You do understand the difference between DURING the 1,000 year and END of the 1,000 years ??? Eh?)
Satan along with his band of evil angel spirits are LOOSED from their 1,000 year Bondage and ALLOWED to Roam about ALL the mortal kingdoms.

The Son of Man....DOES NOT ENGAGE in spiritual warfare.
The Son of Mans..Holy and Faithful Angels ENGAGE and DEFEAT evil angel spirits.
The Son of Man...DOES NOT RAISE Armies and Engage in BATTLES with Mortal men.
The Son of Man...aka JESUS...the Word of God...aka CHRIST...the POWER of God Defeats Mortal men AGAINST Him, WITH the POWER of His Spoken Word.

You obviously have a LACK of Understanding...
God IS..Omnipresent...Omnipotent...Omniscient....and REVEALS His presence and Intents....BY WHAT “TITLE” He calls Himself.

The Lord....descend from Heaven to the Clouds and directs His Archangel to sound the Trump Signal; to CALL UP TO Him; Christ’s Church.

The Lamb of God...Opens the Seals to Begin Gods Tribulation.
The Lamb’s OPENING of the Seals, GIVES Satan great powers.
The Lamb of God’s...Wrath is experienced by mortal men on earth.

God sends His two witness (with POWER) to Jerusalem to Preach.
The Lamb summons a gathering of the Tribes of Israel to Mt ZION.
The Lamb goes to Mt ZION with 144,000 reserved virgin Tribesmen, 12,000 total from every one of the 12 Tribes.
The gathered mortal Tribesmen, are taught the Gospel of Jesus Christ by their OWN kinsmen and begin their CONVERSIONS in Christ.

(And not to neglect ... Satan with his increased Power, is roaming the earth deceiving mortal men with his anti-God rhetoric...and gaining followers.
And those who REJECT Satan, become subject to Satan’s wrath.)

The Son of Man appears in the sky on a White Cloud, for ALL to SEE.
The Son of Man Reaps the earth.

(Satan and His minions are bound in Hell for 1,000 years)

Christ Jesus, KING of kings with His Holy Angels and with His Church, occupy His Kingdom.
A remnant of moral Believers, Begin establishing, communities, cities, nations, kingdoms, kings, repopulating the Earth.....
Christ Jesus, KING “OF” kings....get it...??? He is IN CHARGE. The WHOLE world IS a world of BELIEVERS!

La, La, la,...a 100 years pass, then 200, then 300 .... la, la, la...then 1,000 years.....
THEN HELL IS OPENED and Satan and his evil minions emerge.


AND..?? how shocking, mortal men yield their ears to Satan’s CUNNING Lies and anti-God rhetoric....

Mortal men raise Army’s to wage war Against Christ Jesus’ Kingdom....and OOPS...it’s a fail.

Mortal men Against God is one thing, and easily defeated by the Word and Power of God, who come against His Kingdom.

BUT, BUT BUT...there is that little lingering ISSUE of God fulfilling His Prophetic Promise....TO AVENGE Believers who were subject to anti-God mortal’s horrid and repetitive persecution....AND those anti-God mortals WHO expressly advocated and promoted others to BE anti-God....

It’s Gods Bowls/Vials of the 7 LAST Plagues MIXED with Gods VENGEANCE, that are THEN poured out upon the Remaining anti-God mortals....

Then Judgement and Sentencing and VOID of Satan and his minions presence, void of anti-God mortals.....the Earth is renewed, populated with Converted believers, and Heaven Opened up, and as it is in Heaven, so shall it be on Earth....Everyone WITH God and Everyone SEES God....mortals extinct.

Scripture teaches, the Son of Man was sent to Earth, and the Son of Man shall return to Earth......AND....so How many times.....did I say the Son of Man came to earth...? Once. AND....How many times....did I say the Son of Man WITH POWER Returned to Earth? Once.

If you don’t try to REWRITE Scripture, you will discover the TRUTH.
Your Fiction is your words and accounted to you.
 

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It is your millennium. It is not a biblical millennium. It is a figment of your imagination. It is blighted by the curse so it cannot relate to the age to come where there is no more sin and sinners, dying and crying, decay and disease, war and terror, and Satan and his minions.
LOL...nope. I’m pretty confident a millennium is a thousand years duration.
Scripture says a thousand years.
From Latin translation..Latin "Mille" which means 1,000 and "annus" which means year.

Since you yourself use the word, I though you might have known what it meant. Seems that is not the case.

A thousand years is an Express Revelation in Scripture...SIX times.
If the teaching is beyond your scope of reasoning, that would be your problem, not mine.
 

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Of course the standard teaching is mortal humans that "Die Physically" are in a Sci-Fi Earthly Kingdom for 1,000 years

Of course the standard teaching is that Satan is loosed at the end of this Sci-Fi 1,000 years, and gathers a wicked world together to a supposed final battle against Jesus Christ at Gog-Magog

If that isn't a Sci-Fi Kingdom full of death, decay, depravity, and degenerates, then you need to come out of your cave on the mountain

Big Smiles!

Jesus Is The Lord

Sci-Fi Earthly Kingdom, full of death, decay, depravity, and degenerates ... is only in your imagination....no where in Scripture. rolleyes
 

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LOL...nope. I’m pretty confident a millennium is a thousand years duration.
Scripture says a thousand years.
From Latin translation..Latin "Mille" which means 1,000 and "annus" which means year.

Since you yourself use the word, I though you might have known what it meant. Seems that is not the case.

A thousand years is an Express Revelation in Scripture...SIX times.
If the teaching is beyond your scope of reasoning, that would be your problem, not mine.

Do you accept that the figure “a thousand” (including a thousand years) and ten thousand are repeatedly used in Scripture to denote a vast indeterminate amount or period of time?

Moses employs `a thousand' in Deuteronomy 7:9 saying, "Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations."

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

1 Chronicles 16:13-17 also states, "O ye seed of Israel his servant, ye children of Jacob, his chosen ones. He is the LORD our God; his judgments are in all the earth. Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations; Even of the covenant which he made with Abraham, and of his oath unto Isaac; And hath confirmed the same to Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant."

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

A thousand and ten thousand are used together in Psalm 91, saying, "Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday. A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee" (vv 5-7).

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

A similar contrast between these two numbers or ideas is seen in Deuteronomy 32:30, where a rhetorical question is asked, "How should one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight, except their Rock had sold them, and the Lord had shut them up?"

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

Joshua affirms, on the same vein, in chapter 23, "One man of you shall chase a thousand: for the LORD your God, he it is that fighteth for you, as he hath promised you" (v 10).

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

Isaiah the prophet similarly declares in Isaiah 30:17, "one thousand shall flee at the rebuke of one."

This incidentally is the only passage in Scripture that makes mention of the actual number "one thousand," albeit, the term is used to impress a spiritual truth.

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

Psalm 84:9-10 says, "Behold, O God our shield, and look upon the face of thine anointed. For a day in thy courts is better than a thousand. I had rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God, than to dwell in the tents of wickedness."

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

The figure a thousand is also employed in Psalm 50:10-11 saying, "For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills. I know all the fowls of the mountains: and the wild beasts of the field are mine."

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

Ecclesiastes 7:27-28 succinctly says, "one man among a thousand have I found."

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

In the same vein, Job 33:23 declares, "If there be a messenger with him, an interpreter, one among a thousand, to shew unto man his uprightness."

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?

The distinct contrast between one and a thousand is again found in Job 9:2-3, where Job declares, "I know it is so of a truth: but how should man be just with God? If he will contend with him, he cannot answer him one of a thousand."

Is this a literal or figurative thousand?
 

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LOL...nope. I’m pretty confident a millennium is a thousand years duration.
Scripture says a thousand years.
From Latin translation..Latin "Mille" which means 1,000 and "annus" which means year.

Since you yourself use the word, I though you might have known what it meant. Seems that is not the case.

A thousand years is an Express Revelation in Scripture...SIX times.
If the teaching is beyond your scope of reasoning, that would be your problem, not mine.

Re the “one hour” that the beast reigns with the “ten kings” in Revelation 17:12, is that sixty minutes?