WHAT DOES IT MEAN WIVES ARE TO BE OBEDIENT TO THEIR HUSBANDS?

[Mink57]

It's automatic because most women think we are mind readers and many say very much illogical things. Not all ideas which come from women are good ideas. Plus if she is a chatterbox, (code talk for always talking and wont shut up) it gets annoying at times.
What is she really saying? What does she really want?
having an idea and sharing it with the husband would not be ignored as much if she didnt make such a big thing out of something small by incessantly talking about it like a score keeper. Score keepers are no fun. Everything's a deal. (Yes I got the T-Shirt).

Honestly as a man talking to girl I've never met before say, there are good times to not listen to a woman and times that we should listen. She's the other half of this, what is happening so she plays that role. I did both during my marriage. What's wrong with that?

Let's face it as men and women. There are some very bad women out there for a zillion reasons and the same is true for men. But what are you doing? Oh building a marriage and family! So each has half to bring to the table to create a completeness. This marriage thing is a type and shadow on earth of man's relationship with our Lord and Creator. So if you are married I believe you should approach that marriage in the same way that you can envision approaching the Lord in Heaven. How will He treat you?! He already died for you once! Is that enough proof that He is good to you and will be?

So how will you act towards Him in heaven? You are who you are, and Jesus likes you just the way you are. So will you nit pick Jesus the way you nit pick your husband?

Excuse me Jesus but that was my idea?

Now of course I am lightly joking with you but is it a good point? Should we/could we start practicing now how to walk and speak with more respect in general? I think it's a good idea for us all, even me!

I'm glad you addressed this!!! I think it was Elizabeth Cady Stanton who said (I'm paraphrasing) that if more men acted like Jesus, MOST women would have NO PROBLEM submitting.

 

[Mink57]

That was the same boss who didnt have a truck for me yet, but they were wanting to have a Heating department and he was only a Master Plumber. That was supposed to be me (a two year tech! Lol) But I was at that age that I knew everything so I said heck yeah I can do it.

I'm laughing because I think MOST of us have experienced "THAT age" before!!

But he had no truck to put me in so he let me use an extra car of his, a Ranchero which is like working out of a pickup truck. But he liked that car and it was a nice example of it and when he gave it to me to drive for work he said you blow up that motor and your fired! Same guy. We just didnt know each other yet. He was my boss but he was my friend too. A smart boss will be your friend. I never did mess up his car any, lol. I was careful.

Good for you! You guys still friends today?

 

[TLHKAJ]

A man who has a wife who actually desires to talk to her husband, and he just says "she's not worth my time, she talks too much, she's a chatterbox and annoys me" ...... so what if she talks a lot ....is it all about YOU rather than obeying scripture??

1 Peter 3:7-8
[7]Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.
[8]Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

According to knowledge (or science, if you look at the Greek meaning) ....love suffers. If you love your wife, give her space to talk, and care enough to take interest. She has been home all day talking to children, or no one at all. Just maybe she's happy you're home and wants to share her heart with you!?! Care enough for her and honor the differences. She cares for you ...washes your laundry, puts it away, keeps the home, raises the children, manages the finances and haggles on the phone with bill collectors, cooks your meals ....be grateful you only have a 9 to 5 and can come home and be lazy while she works dusk till dawn to care for YOU. But oh yeah ..... it's all about YOU. Got it.

 

[Mink57]

So I don't get accused of a discrepancy ...my daughter was pregnant with twins, but due to extremely stressful circumstances, she miscarried one of the babies.

Incidentally, my daughter is a twin as well. We didn't come home with both babies ....one was taken by the cult. I don't know if she is dead or alive. I think she is alive... I pray for her protection and freedom...

I do not know all of your story, TLHKAJ. But what I've read on this thread alone is... and

A sad statistic I read a few years ago, that was taken from a Theological Seminary...25% of the members believed it was PERFECTLY OK to beat your wife IF you only SUSPECTED her of cheating. Just goes to show ya how some men THINK...and (mis)use the bible to justify their non-Christ-like actions.

By the way...I'm a twin, too. Fraternal. My heart goes doubly out to you and yours. Praying for all of you.

 

[Mink57]

A man who has a wife who actually desires to talk to her husband, and he just says "she's not worth my time, she talks too much, she's a chatterbox and annoys me" ...... so what if she talks a lot ....is it all about YOU rather than obeying scripture??

1 Peter 3:7-8
[7]Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.
[8]Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

According to knowledge (or science, if you look at the Greek meaning) ....love suffers. If you love your wife, give her space to talk, and care enough to take interest. She has been home all day talking to children, or no one at all. Just maybe she's happy you're home and wants to share her heart with you!?! Care enough for her and honor the differences. She cares for you ...washes your laundry, outs it away, keeps the home, raises the children, manages the finances and haggles on the phone with bill collectors, cooks your meals ....be grateful you only have a 9 to 5 and can come home and be lazy while she works dusk till dawn to care for YOU. But oh yeah ..... it's all about YOU. Got it.

Yup, yup, yup and YUP!
Pipe, slippers, newspaper....oh, and wear something sexy when you give these things to him. And don't mind the slap on your rear when you walk away from him...

 

[MA2444]

and telling me, "God said that you and I are meant to be together." Sorry, but how dare he touch a woman who he doesn't even know! I told him, "God didn't tell ME any such thing." I got up and left. Went into the ladies room. A friend of mine followed me into the ladies room and asked me what happened. She went back out to the church and kept her eye on the guy. I was in the ladies room for about 15 minutes before she came back and told me he finally left.

That's prolly what he was feeling at the time. It seems like no one has trouble hearing God when a woman is involved. That's little boys and girls do is interact and like each other. Not only did God make women very cute and desirable he also made the man to want women.

So he felt like God would certainly want him to have this lucky girl for his own! It's, an emotional response. You saw it as ridiculous and knew the real truth already! Congratulations. So he was prolly trying to go bed some church girls? Maybe they wont be all run through like most the female population. That he left before you came out prolly means he was only there for the women and so was a "Chad"

I have always been respectful on the dating or looking for girls. I figured the farthest a man should go when touching woman for the first time was to take her by the hand or to place on hand on her shoulder. The man must express his interest in the girl. That's a polite way to do it. How do you you expect prince charming to sho up and sweep you off your feet if you get the icks instantly? I can't fault the man for taking you by the hand. That was no reason to call foul. But times change and now the women have been saying don't even approach me! ICK! SO men have all started doing that now in response to what women asked for?

So nou you will never know if the guy in church was possibly looking for a good wife and thought she might be in church?! Maybe he is rich? Maybe he had a good heart for the Lord and wasnt fond of any of the girls at his church? If that's all he did was take her hand and speak directly to her then I can call that ok and respectable. How did he disrespect you?

You know what was funny? That move with Mel Gibson and Helen Hunt, What Women Want... She's like, doh! don't look at his crotch! and mel was like hmm and flexes his pants lol! That was so funny. She about died when he did that, lol.

I'll tell you fellows out there that reading along...man secret.

 

[Mink57]

That's prolly what he was feeling at the time. It seems like no one has trouble hearing God when a woman is involved. That's little boys and girls do is interact and like each other. Not only did God make women very cute and desirable he also made the man to want women.

So he felt like God would certainly want him to have this lucky girl for his own! It's, an emotional response. You saw it as ridiculous and knew the real truth already! Congratulations. So he was prolly trying to go bed some church girls? Maybe they wont be all run through like most the female population. That he left before you came out prolly means he was only there for the women and so was a "Chad"

LOL! Noooooo, he was FAR from a "Chad", and I'm FAAAAR from a "Stacy." The clincher? I was HOMELESS at the time. And just because I didn't have on a ring does NOT mean I'm NOT married...or otherwise "taken." He didn't care.

I have always been respectful on the dating or looking for girls. I figured the farthest a man should go when touching woman for the first time was to take her by the hand or to place on hand on her shoulder. The man must express his interest in the girl. That's a polite way to do it. How do you you expect prince charming to sho up and sweep you off your feet if you get the icks instantly? I can't fault the man for taking you by the hand. That was no reason to call foul. But times change and now the women have been saying don't even approach me! ICK! SO men have all started doing that now in response to what women asked for?

Once again, the man had NO IDEA if I was otherwise "involved" with another man. So, yeah....you CAN fault the guy for his somewhat aggressive approach. Just because a woman is alone does NOT mean she's "fair game."

Let me ask you....how would have felt if your wife didn't wear her rings for a day...having them resized or reset or cleaned...and the man did the same thing to your wife?

So nou you will never know if the guy in church was possibly looking for a good wife and thought she might be in church?! Maybe he is rich? Maybe he had a good heart for the Lord and wasnt fond of any of the girls at his church? If that's all he did was take her hand and speak directly to her then I can call that ok and respectable. How did he disrespect you?

And if this guy did this to your WIFE, would you feel the same way?

You know what was funny? That move with Mel Gibson and Helen Hunt, What Women Want... She's like, doh! don't look at his crotch! and mel was like hmm and flexes his pants lol! That was so funny. She about died when he did that, lol.

I'll tell you fellows out there that reading along...man secret.

I saw that movie...and that move...thought it was cute! Then again, I'm a screenwriter, so....

 

[Mink57]

LOL! Noooooo, he was FAR from a "Chad", and I'm FAAAAR from a "Stacy." The clincher? I was HOMELESS at the time. And just because I didn't have on a ring does NOT mean I'm NOT married...or otherwise "taken." He didn't care.

Once again, the man had NO IDEA if I was otherwise "involved" with another man. So, yeah....you CAN fault the guy for his somewhat aggressive approach. Just because a woman is alone does NOT mean she's "fair game."

Let me ask you....how would have felt if your wife didn't wear her rings for a day...having them resized or reset or cleaned...and the man did the same thing to your wife?

And if this guy did this to your WIFE, would you feel the same way?

I saw that movie...and that move...thought it was cute! Then again, I'm a screenwriter, so....

Ooops. Double post. Dang!

 

[TLHKAJ]

I do not know all of your story, TLHKAJ. But what I've read on this thread alone is... and

Sister, thank you. It's very complicated. Due to the nature of what I and my husband were born into, it is very hidden from the general public ...as is the purpose of MK Ultra type programming, to shatter the mind of the children by introducing trauma in the womb, and continuing throughout infancy, childhood, and a lifetime. So dissociation is strong and that hides the cult's activities from the general public.

But I cane to Christ at age 13, and although trauma continued after that, God kept me THROUGH it until the time when I was able to face what was hidden (even from myself in large part). God was calling me to look at some very difficult things for the sake of my freedom. Obedience to Him meant that I had to be willing to see the truth. In the process, with threats from the cult for breaking my programming, I was given a choice ...as was my husband, who had to bend over backwards to ignore the threats and the fact that people were harassing us at our home, calling to leave threats, following us, etc. Many times, I woke up with injuries ...dislocated arms, cattle prod/taser injuries, rib injuries, and rapes ...not knowing how it happened, and my husband is there...?? ...dissociation on my part blocked it out, but I couldn't deny that I had very real and painful injuries. His dissociation would have blocked it out as well ...but willful denial caused him to act as if nothing happened, ignoring the whole thing, all the while our children are having nightmares about our former pastor, men in the church, etc. Very hard to deny.

I have connected with hundreds of other female survivors who have suffered literal persecution for turning to Christ and broken their programming. Very many of them, as myself, had husband who were their assigned cult handlers, and whose husbands chose loyalty to the cult rather than Christ, their wife, and children. I see it all the time.

Women are stronger than men in every way it counts. It should be different. And when I see the derogatory way men here speak about women and especially their wives, it doesn't speak well to the shape of the Church. They are calloused, and are too busy defending their egos than to actually hear what any woman has to share.

Anyway ... I can direct you to some other threads so I don't totally take this one off the rails.

 

[Wrangler]

So you ADMIT that you DO in fact, submit TO ONE ANOTHER.

That's a lot different than what you're explaining.

No. That's a change in subject. The specific subject is wives submitting to their husband's authority over them. The subject is not Christians generally submitting to each other out of love. We've talked about this in great detail before. Not equality:

1. husband's submit by one mode; out of love. (Ephesians 5:21)
2. Wives submit by two modes; out of authority their husbands have over them and out of love. (Ephesians 5:21 and 22)

Frankly, I don't want my wife to be submitting to me only because I have authority over her. I want us to have a loving relationship where she mainly submits to me out of love, yes, as I submit to her out of love. Aside from conflict, we should have the heart to please the other, e.g., where would you like to go out for dinner. The CEV render v 21 Honor Christ and put others first (not specifically spouse). Putting another first is not equality. This has universal applicability, independent of marital status. CEV v 10 honor others more than you do yourself. (I have seen no sign of this from you. You are all about glorifying yourself without end. A God complex.)

In times of conflict in marriage, and because God is a God of order and peace, he gave us Genesis 3:16, Ephesians 5:22 and 1 Peter 3:1. Poisoned by the evil of feminism, you disregard God's plan while providing no answer to how is conflict resolved under feminism. It's not! It's perpetual war, perpetual strife. That is of the devil!

Because of your feminist indoctrination, you approach this subject of wives submitting to their husbands as a victim with the man you chose as an evil tyrant whose only goal is to lord his power over you. This is not the way of Christ. You proceed from a fear based perspective. Christ challenges us to proceed from a faith based perspective. This has made all the difference in Wynona's life. She has the brave spirit of Christ - and lives joyfully. Consider modeling her example.

 

[MA2444]

You assume a lot. Doing the math, which I showed him ...we would have cut our monthly payments in half. So ...you think that's a bad financial decision?? lol You're going through a lot of twisty turns to try to discredit me just because I'm a woman.

I'm not trying to discredit you. And I like women, I'm just picky that's all. I even said he should have listened to you. It was a good idea. I said that. So it's water under the bridge now and you have a shed so why keep complaining about it? Does that make sense? It is a small thing! Don't sweat the small stuff!

It wasn't about me, mister ego. It was about seeing him work his tail off and trying to manage the finances better so he can retire sooner. You're painting me as evil because you dislike me. You assume a lot of things that are totally off base. You're accusing a woman who for years and years submitted to a man who NEVER stood for her and the children against unsafe people. By "unsafe" I mean people who used scripture and "God" to justify and hide behind actual cult/satanic ritual abuse ....a man who, when I said we needed to break free, chose THEM over his wife and family.
You're talking to a woman who taught her children to take care of the home (picking up their toys, messes, etc) before daddy got home because it was how we show our gratitude to God, and our appreciation for their dad's hard work by not having him come home to a messy house. Instead, toys were picked up, school work was done (homeschool), and the meal was warm and ready to eat.

What are you talking about? So you sound like your a little smarter than he is. Good for you and him. If a disagreement gets heated then at least fight fair. Don't make it about inconsequential things like this. stuff from the past even. Small stuff. I'd would have said, Ohh, sorry honey I should have listened to you! And you would feel better and not be frustrated enough to still be complaining.

Do you dislike doing some things that you want him to do because it's a drag? Like finances and the management of the bills and stuff and you dont want to do it and neither does he? He wants you to do it. Is that what it is boiling to?
Because if you can do it and are good with numbers then it would be a blessing to him for you be the manager. Ask me how I know. My wife was my secretary and we worked together all the time. And she was good at numbers! (I am weak in math). So that was an extra blessing to me that she would want to take over management of the company and home. I never met a woman that wasnt good at math. I know you are good at math! That's a blessing for you and to your husband dont you see? He's young and goofed up is all, one time. .Give the man a break and support him in any way you can. Help him build this life and be patient with him. He'll come around over time. Be a great wife and an even better one tomorrow! When you stop being better, you stop being good.

You're accusing a woman who has stood by her husband and prayed, and prayed, and prayed ...encouraged, encouraged, encouraged ...and waited, and waited, and waited ...for him to stand alongside his wife against the cult ...for the sake of our children and grandchildren. I have stayed because I don't take my marriage vows lightly. And I still suffer punishments from the cult because my husband is a safety breach. He allows them access to me. Okay? So .... your accusation of "it's all about you" is 100% wrong. I have taken the brunt of punishments bc of his refusal to simply choose to trust God over his fear of man.

I'm not accusing you of being anything. I dont speak from ego. There is no "dislike" of you. Stop speaking from emotions for a second, ok?

It is ok that you have found the Lord. So you can trust the Lord and you know this. Am I right? Good for you between you praying and Lord providing a way you can win in this situation. This situation is not a dont sweat the small stuff situation, it's a lot more serious than that. If he is giving a cult access to you for any reason then it is a serious situation. This is spiritual warfare big time. You chose to remain with him regardless?
As unto the Lord it does say that and it's extremely commendable of you to even attempt it. We do not wrestle with flesh and blood, but with evil spirits and their powers. So your husband needs rescued reeeal bad. Most people would say divorce him and get away from him.

When you realize that (Maybe you already did!) if you hang in there trusting the Lord Jesus and pray unceasingly for the Lord to somehow save those people in the cult. and to bless them like scripture says to do, pray for enemies, bless your enemies...maybe you could be instrumental in the whole coven getting saved, not just your husband, or at the very least to break it's power over your husband. You can save your Husbands life!

You have judged me extremely wrong.

AND ... I didn't call you a satanist.

I hope I have judged you wrongly. But the way I read it you did pretty much call me that because I am a vocal voice in this thread. So I wasnt trying to make you look bad at all. How could I dislike you, I dont know you! On one hand your in the thread cursing men and in the next moment you tell me that you do trust the Lord Jesus, so what it amounts to is, you have made a small error somewhere but not very big one if that is what is in your heart. I didn't know what to think after that.

If you really trust Jesus and the Lord loves anyone who loves Him and will turn whatever bad it is that happening to you into a good thing. And if it was a very bad thing with much suffering and stuff, then the Lord will reward you in a huge way when we all get to heaven. (Romans 8:28) So the Lord is in control and you really trust him!

Your job is done in prayer and fasting, then it is the Lord who send warrior Angels to beat down opposing forces. He sends salvation Angels too, especially if you ask Him too! You have not because you ask not!

What a tough sounding path to walk. Wow.

 

[Mink57]

Sister, thank you. It's very complicated. Due to the nature of what I and my husband were born into, it is very hidden from the general public ...as is the purpose of MK Ultra type programming, to shatter the mind of the children by introducing trauma in the womb, and continuing throughout infancy, childhood, and a lifetime. So dissociation is strong and that hides the cult's activities from the general public.

But I cane to Christ at age 13, and although trauma continued after that, God kept me THROUGH it until the time when I was able to face what was hidden (even from myself in large part). God was calling me to look at some very difficult things for the sake of my freedom. Obedience to Him meant that I had to be willing to see the truth. In the process, with threats from the cult for breaking my programming, I was given a choice ...as was my husband, who had to bend over backwards to ignore the threats and the fact that people were harassing us at our home, calling to leave threats, following us, etc. Many times, I woke up with injuries ...dislocated arms, cattle prod/taser injuries, rib injuries, and rapes ...not knowing how it happened, and my husband is there...?? ...dissociation on my part blocked it out, but I couldn't deny that I had very real and painful injuries. His dissociation would have blocked it out as well ...but willful denial caused him to act as if nothing happened, ignoring the whole thing, all the while our children are having nightmares about our former pastor, men in the church, etc. Very hard to deny.

I have connected with hundreds of other female survivors who have suffered literal persecution for turning to Christ and broken their programming. Very many of them, as myself, had husband who were their assigned cult handlers, and whose husbands chose loyalty to the cult rather than Christ, their wife, and children. I see it all the time.

Women are stronger than men in every way it counts. It should be different. And when I see the derogatory way men here speak about women and especially their wives, it doesn't speak well to the shape of the Church. They are callused, and are too busy defending their egos than to actually hear what any woman has to share.

Anyway ... I can direct you to some other threads so I don't totally take this one off the rails.

I have worked with women who have been abused, for 25 years. Mostly online. I've worked with few ex-cult members, and the story is always the same. It's bad enough that some women are abused even without being involved with a cult. But the cult....talk about brainwashing, or ATTEMPTED brainwashing! You KNEW intuitively that something wasn't quite right...

You're very right about men defending their egos. Seems like many of them have to tear a woman down in order to elevate themselves. What a shame. Excuse me God, but what a piss poor shame.

Christ DID say to "Do Unto Others..." That did NOT exclude husband and wife.

 

[Mink57]

No. That's a change in subject. The specific subject is wives submitting to their husband's authority: over them. The subject is not Christians generally submitting to each other out of love. We've talked about this in great detail before. Not equality:

You keep harping on wives submitting to husbands while ignoring that husbands need to submit to wives TOO. Ephesians 5:21.

1. husband's submit by one mode; out of love. (Ephesians 5:21)
2. Wives submit by two modes; out of authority their husbands have over them and out of love. (Ephesians 5:21 and 22)

Frankly, I don't want my wife to be submitting to me only because I have authority over her. I want us to have a loving relationship where she mainly submits to me out of love, yes, as I submit to her out of love. Aside from conflict, we should have the heart to please the other, e.g., where would you like to go out for dinner. The CEV render v 21 Honor Christ and put others first (not specifically spouse). Putting another first is not equality. This has universal applicability, independent of marital status. CEV v 10 honor others more than you do yourself. (I have seen no sign of this from you. You are all about glorifying yourself without end. A God complex.)

In times of conflict in marriage, and because God is a God of order and peace, he gave us Genesis 3:16, Ephesians 5:22 and 1 Peter 3:1. Poisoned by the evil of feminism, you disregard God's plan while providing no answer to how is conflict resolved under feminism. It's not! It's perpetual war, perpetual strife. That is of the devil!

Because of your feminist indoctrination, you approach this subject of wives submitting to their husbands as a victim with the man you chose as an evil tyrant whose only goal is to lord his power over you. This is not the way of Christ. You proceed from a fear based perspective. Christ challenges us to proceed from a faith based perspective. This has made all the difference in Wynona's life. She has the brave spirit of Christ - and lives joyfully. Consider modeling her example.

 

[MA2444]

I'm glad you addressed this!!! I think it was Elizabeth Cady Stanton who said (I'm paraphrasing) that if more men acted like Jesus, MOST women would have NO PROBLEM submitting.

It's not submitting, it is working together or not working together. You dont seem to want to work with any man. So it's just as an excuse that you say that.

 

[MA2444]

I'm laughing because I think MOST of us have experienced "THAT age" before!!

Good for you! You guys still friends today?

Well he sort of drifted to the wayside after I left. He's in Colorado still somewhere.

 

[Mink57]

It's not submitting, it is working together or not working together. You dont seem to want to work with any man. So it's just as an excuse that you say that.

Oh, stop. I DID want to WORK with my last husband and other men in my life. THEY wanted dictatosrhip, where THEY were the ''boss'.

Why is that SO HARD for you to understand ? '
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I'm not about to 'submit' to some 30-something dude who wants sex with me.

No thanks.

 

[Mink57]

Well he sort of drifted to the wayside after I left. He's in Colorado still somewhere.

So, you haven't heard from him in recent years. I get it. Best friends in high school, not so much after that. People change....

Eh...

 

[MA2444]

A man who has a wife who actually desires to talk to her husband, and he just says "she's not worth my time, she talks too much, she's a chatterbox and annoys me" ...... so what if she talks a lot ....is it all about YOU rather than obeying scripture??

1 Peter 3:7-8
[7]Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.
[8]Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

According to knowledge (or science, if you look at the Greek meaning) ....love suffers. If you love your wife, give her space to talk, and care enough to take interest. She has been home all day talking to children, or no one at all. Just maybe she's happy you're home and wants to share her heart with you!?! Care enough for her and honor the differences. She cares for you ...washes your laundry, puts it away, keeps the home, raises the children, manages the finances and haggles on the phone with bill collectors, cooks your meals ....be grateful you only have a 9 to 5 and can come home and be lazy while she works dusk till dawn to care for YOU. But oh yeah ..... it's all about YOU. Got it.

How can you say that? Arent you assuming too much? How long is your husband in your own probationary period before it is ok to start acting like a wife?

 

[MA2444]

Oh, stop. I DID want to WORK with my last husband and other men in my life. THEY wanted dictatosrhip, where THEY were the ''boss'.

Why is that SO HARD for you to understand ? '
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I'm not about to 'submit' to some 30-something dude who wants sex with me.

No thanks.

What's so hard for you to understand about just because your last husband was a prick and the new guy isnt responsible for his actions. But you are trying to make him so. Is that right to do? No wonder you're still single.

No matter what your ex husband did to you, you can't make a new guy a prick because the last guy was so you decided to make the new one pay too. Does that even make sense to you?

The Lord out you on this path and is testing you! All things work together for good for thoe who love God. So you rebell against God and establish that your new guy is punk just like the old guy, on your word alone. That is making yourself above God. Think about it.

 

[MA2444]

So, you haven't heard from him in recent years. I get it. Best friends in high school, not so much after that. People change....

Eh...

I didnt go to school with him. He was my boss at work, but was the better boss than the straw boss so I call the man my friend. It was a working relationship. We worked together a few times and I like working with him. Good guy.