There is only one true church

[Augustin56]

Sounds like someone is trying to say everyone is going to Hell but the Catholics.

The Catholic Church teaches that it is possible to achieve heaven without being Catholic. Here's the official teaching on that:

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience – those too may achieve eternal salvation. (Catechism, 846)

 

[David in NJ]

The Catholic Church teaches that it is possible to achieve heaven without being Catholic. Here's the official teaching on that:

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience – those too may achieve eternal salvation. (Catechism, 846)

Are you speaking of people who NEVER heard the Gospel?

 

[David in NJ]

Paul wrote to Timothy. Not the Holy Spirit. Paul. Look at the very first word in the Letter.

If the Holy Spirit wanted to communicate with Timothy directly, He could have dispensed with the need for a letter written in Paul's hand.

NONSENSE

Salvation = Read the Gospel of John at the Feet of JESUS who said: My words will never end for they are SPIRIT and they are LIFE

 

[Ezra]

The Catholic Church alone has the fullness of Christ's teaching. It alone can trace its roots directly back to Christ.

it can ? calling the pope Holy Father

 

[David in NJ]

Dan, not quite. The Catholic Church alone has the fullness of Christ's teaching. It alone can trace its roots directly back to Christ.

Protestantism didn't come along until the 16th century, started by rogue Catholics who rejected parts of the faith.

You have no basis to judge what the Catholic Church teaches other than your own personal interpretation of things, or the personal interpretation of some other mere human being without Divine authority.

See 2 Peter 1:20-21, that says, "Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation,
for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the Holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God."

And, yet, personal interpretation of Scipture is one of the founding principles of Protestantism. That's why there are literally tens of thousands of man-made, doctrinally contradicting denominations (and counting). Everyone is his/her own Pope, interpreting Scripture personally.

Unless, of course, you're claiming that Jesus, Himself, came back and informed you that what the Catholic Church is teaching is wrong? Or an angel?

The Roman Catholic Church alone has the fullness of Anti-Christ's teaching.

RCC is the worship of idols, worship of sinful men, praying for the dead = Antichrist

 

[Augustin56]

Are you speaking of people who NEVER heard the Gospel?

I'm speaking of people who are invincibly ignorant of the Gospel and Christ's Church, i.e., they didn't know through no fault of their own. Yes, there are such people. You might view this video that explains things a little better:

 

[BreadOfLife]

Its bible truth-Luke 22:29-30--A covenant made to those who will sit on thrones--end of story.

And YOUR opinion doesn’t matter ONE bit without evidence – which you have failed to present.

What denomination/faith tradition are you involved with?

 

[BreadOfLife]

Comparatively few books of the Bible were written by eyewitnesses -- but YOU say it doesn't matter because all of it was written by the Holy Spirit, who was an eyewitness to everything!

Once again - GOD is the one who says that HE is the Author of Scripture. This isn't something that I made up out of thin air.

2 Tim. 3:16
ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness

YOUR problem is with GOD Himself - not me . . .

So how can you use this analogy? There should be ONE version if there is One author!

The different Books of Scripture is the Holy Spirit speaking through multiple viewpoints. If you put 10 Christians at the scene of ANY event in the life of Christ – you will get 10 different viewpoints of the SAME truth. But you don’t get “contradictions”.

Learn to discern the difference . . .

 

[Keiw]

And YOUR opinion doesn’t matter ONE bit without evidence – which you have failed to present.

What denomination/faith tradition are you involved with?

What part of English don't you understand? Luke 22:29-30 says exactly what i shared.

 

[RedFan]

Once again - GOD is the one who says that HE is the Author of Scripture. This isn't something that I made up out of thin air.

2 Tim. 3:16
ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness

You are quoting Paul's letter to Timothy as evidence that God not only IS the author, but SAYS he is the author!!! Can any more stark example of circular reasoning be imagined?????

 

[BreadOfLife]

You are quoting Paul's letter to Timothy as evidence that God not only IS the author, but SAYS he is the author!!! Can any more stark example of circular reasoning be imagined?????

This has become a useless conversations.

Your rejection of the truth of Scripture shows that your problem is with God – not with Paul and not with me.
I suggest you take it up with HIM . . .

Prov. 26:4
Do not answer a fool according to his folly,
or you yourself will be just like him.

 

[BreadOfLife]

What part of English don't you understand? Luke 22:29-30 says exactly what i shared.

Your refusal to divulge your denomination/faith tradition speaks VOLUMES . . .

 

[RedFan]

This has become a useless conversation.....

Agreed.

 

[Keiw]

Your refusal to divulge your denomination/faith tradition speaks VOLUMES . . .

I don't refuse. I am a Jehovah witness. Happy to be one.

 

[David in NJ]

I don't refuse. I am a Jehovah witness. Happy to be one.

You are better off then the RCC but like those who trust in idols, you also have your own idol = watchtower and false docrtrines

 

[Keiw]

You are better off then the RCC but like those who trust in idols, you also have your own idol = watchtower and false docrtrines

The watchtower is a magazine, This is what it accomplishes--worldwide every sunday, the JW,s get the same spiritual feeding using the watchtower along with the bible, it explains what the bible teaches. No different than a sermon. I believe its in over 1000 languages now. Thats not by accident its by doing Gods will.-- How else can Jesus' real religion accomplish ((((1Cor 1:10= Unity of thought(all of Gods 1 truth) no division,)))))) if they aren't taught they same bible discourses unitedly? Otherwise they would become a mass of confusion and have hundreds of different religions claiming to be Christian like the trinitarians are= a mass of confusion who fail 1Cor 1:10-100%
No false doctrines occurred. Errors occurred but have been corrected.

 

[David in NJ]

The watchtower is a magazine, This is what it accomplishes--worldwide every sunday, the JW,s get the same spiritual feeding using the watchtower along with the bible, it explains what the bible teaches. No different than a sermon. I believe its in over 1000 languages now. Thats not by accident its by doing Gods will.-- How else can Jesus' real religion accomplish ((((1Cor 1:10= Unity of thought(all of Gods 1 truth) no division,)))))) if they aren't taught they same bible discourses unitedly? Otherwise they would become a mass of confusion and have hundreds of different religions claiming to be Christian like the trinitarians are= a mass of confusion who fail 1Cor 1:10-100%
No false doctrines occurred. Errors occurred but have been corrected.

the JW,s get the same spiritual feeding using the watchtower along with the bible, it explains what the bible teaches.

Just like the RCC = you guys are buddies = BFF

 

[Augustin56]

The Roman Catholic Church alone has the fullness of Anti-Christ's teaching.

RCC is the worship of idols, worship of sinful men, praying for the dead = Antichrist

David, far more educated anti-Catholic pastors and laymen have converted to Catholicism. Many began by studying to disprove the Catholic Church and ended up finding the beauty and truth of Catholicism. Some were angry when they realized the degree to which they they had been lied to about the Catholic Church.

 

[David in NJ]

David, far more educated anti-Catholic pastors and laymen have converted to Catholicism. Many began by studying to disprove the Catholic Church and ended up finding the beauty and truth of Catholicism. Some were angry when they realized the degree to which they they had been lied to about the Catholic Church.

They did not have the Holy Spirit and may not even be SAVED.
The weakness of man are his eyes.

The Strength of every True Saint is his/her direct relationship to the FATHER thru the Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit guides the True Saints in the Holy Scriptures that enables them to SEE and by SEEING they Grow in Christ.

The weakness of man are his eyes = 1 John 2:15-17
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
For all that is in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not of the Father but is of the world.
And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever.

 

[David in NJ]

David, far more educated anti-Catholic pastors and laymen have converted to Catholicism. Many began by studying to disprove the Catholic Church and ended up finding the beauty and truth of Catholicism. Some were angry when they realized the degree to which they they had been lied to about the Catholic Church.

David, far more educated...........

lol

Do you not know that God's Word the Bible is a childrens book, written for His Children!!!

A KING by the Name, LORD JESUS CHRIST said this - Matthew 18:1-5

At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?”

Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me.