Is Antisemitism caused by hatred of the Sabbath?

[Aunty Jane]

It is clear from Christ's own words that those seeking eternal life must follow the Commandments, and from your own words Sunday has nothing given by God as the day of worship.

What did Jesus say were the only Commandments that a Christian should follow?

Matt 22:34-40…
”After the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they came together in one group. 35 And one of them, versed in the Law, tested him by asking: 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37 He said to him: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ 38 This is the greatest and first commandment. 39 The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments the whole Law hangs, and the Prophets.”

As a Jew, under Law he was answering a Jew under Law, but it’s interesting that he said…”On these two commandments the whole Law hangs, and the Prophets.”
For his disciples, all of whom were Jewish, the Law was binding until his death, which released them from “the curse of the Law”.
Gal 3:10, 13…
“All those who depend on works of law are under a curse, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not remain in all the things written in the scroll of the Law by doing them.” . . .
13  Christ purchased us, releasing us from the curse of the Law by becoming a curse instead of us, because it is written: “Accursed is every man hung upon a tree.” (Deut 21:23)

All Christians were released from the curse of the Law including the Jews who accepted Jesus as Messiah.
For those Jews who rejected him (and still do almost 2000 years later) the Law still operates to continue to curse them. Christians are now under only two laws, which Jesus himself advocated……”You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ 38 This is the greatest and first commandment. 39 The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’”

These commands only are Christians under obligation to keep……no Sabbath observance was required here.

The mark of the Beast is its mark of authority, the substitute for the Sabbath, when we get to the end, this will be the point in which many Christians will fall.

And where will I find that stated in Scripture? Upon what do you base that assumption?
The mark of the beast has nothing to do with the Sabbath, but everything to do with a Christian’s loyalty to God rather than to an authoritarian government.

If one does not grasp or comprehend what deception the church of Rome has set as its mark, one could say, I didn't know. But you know with clarity who is this apostate church, Babylon, there is no reason for any other day as the Sabbath.

I see very clearly that the Church of Rome set most of the doctrines by which those who identify as “Christians” even today, practice their faith…..but Christendom is not “Babylon the great”, even though she is the most reprehensible part, introducing all those doctrines that are held in paganism to this day.

Their whole foundation revolves around three major beliefs that they all hold in common and that originated in ancient Babylon……a multiplicity of gods, many of which existed in triads…..belief that the dead are not really dead, but that some immortal part of them lives on in another (invisible) realm….and the destination of those immortal souls also has them enjoying either a heavenly bliss, or eternal torment in a fiery hell.

The Bible teaches none of those things.

You have eyes that see, the Holy Spirit has guided you past many obstacles to where you are today. Don't stop coming closer to God's truth, I will keep in prayer that God opens fully and shows the truth of the matter..

I didn’t stop Hobie, which is why I see further than you apparently can…..I too keep the posters here in my prayers as God sees their responses to the Scriptures I post, along with clear explanations as to where we are in the stream of time, and who are the most vulnerable to satan’s lies. His web of deceit is wider than many imagine, and we will all answer to the same judge….some of us in total disbelief at the end! (Matt 7:21-23)

If you accept the trinity, immortality of the soul, and hellfire, along with all those unchristian celebrations that are all borrowed unashamedly from pagan religions, then you stopped learning what God requires of his worshippers…..no contamination with false religion or being “part of the world” can be acceptable to a genuine disciple of Christ. (2 Cor 6:14-18; John 18:36; 1 John 5:19)

These things are what separate “the sheep from the goats”….”the wheat from the weeds”. We are telling God who we really are every day of our lives by what we accept as truth. The majority will be found traveling the wrong road. (Matt 7:13-14) See what unites them all…..it’s got nothing to do with the Sabbath. It’s a red herring.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Anyone who calls the Jews the murders of Christ does not understand their faith.

Jesus understood them perfectly and said that their worship was fraudulent, (Matt 15:7-9) pretending to be God’s chosen people in their own land….but what was the reality? What is the reality today? (Isa 1:15)

Jesus had to die to make the sacrifice or their would be no salvation.If you tried to stop Christ from making the sacrifice he would say the same thing he said to Peter "Get behind me Satan" Do you not understand that?The Roman's crucified Christ at the request of the Jewish leader who could not get their hands dirty during passover they had to remain clean .

Do you really believe that? They held an illegal trial in order to ensure that a conviction was made against the son of God for blasphemy…as if Christ could ever do such a thing! They had no sanction from the Roman government to execute anyone….it was under Roman authority that the whole of Israel’s territory was dominated. The Jews lost their right to the land when God had the Babylonians destroy their land and their Temple, and took them captive to Babylon. Gentile nations dominated that land, as it was foretold in Daniel 500 years before Jesus walked the earth. By the time of his ministry the Jews had no military force and were powerless to do anything about their situation, but to make the most of what little freedom they actually had. Their land had been dominated by gentile powers since their exile, and they never got it back. Even today, if Israel did not have alliances with gentile powers their homeland would still be lost. God is not with them. They have blood on their hands, and no sanction from God to employ foreign powers to ensure their safety. How many lives have been lost? Over what? A piece of dirt that has no spiritual significance today…?

Jesus was seen as a trouble maker by the Roman's.

He was a trouble maker to the Jewish leadership, but the Romans couldn’t have cared less at first, which is why Pilate handed Jesus over to be executed after the Jews threatened his political career. Under the threat of being accused of treason, Pilate washed his hands of the whole affair.

The trouble with Rome came later, forcing the Christians to go underground….into the catacombs.

Of course everyone involved was Jewish it was in Israel Gods holy-land how could it be anyone else what other people ocupied the land.Stop looking for someone to blame your to blame by your sins find your salvation.Jesus is not going to show up in China he is going to come to Gods holyland and to its people who practice the faith and believe in the God of Jacob and the old covenent.Which was nowhere else in the world.

If you believe that then Jesus’ words to the Samaritan woman were lies….

After identifying some aspects of her personal life, which surprised her, the conversation went like this…..

John 4:19-26….
”The woman said to him: “Sir, I see that you are a prophet. 20  Our forefathers worshipped on this mountain, but you people say that in Jerusalem is the place where people must worship.” 21 Jesus said to her: “Believe me, woman, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. 22 You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews. 23  Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.” 25 The woman said to him: “I know that Mes·siʹah is coming, who is called Christ. Whenever that one comes, he will declare all things to us openly.” 26 Jesus said to her: “I am he, the one speaking to you.”

Here we have Jesus own declaration that Jerusalem would no longer be the seat of his Father’s worship, but as Peter declared in Acts 10:34-35, people of “all nations” are acceptable to God as long as they obeyed the teachings of his son. That included the Jews who accepted Jesus as Messiah. Those who continue to this day as opposers of Jesus as the Christ, will not gain salvation but will join their religious leaders in Gehenna.

They of all people had no excuse to murder their savior. But their conduct all through their dedicated position in relation to God’s worship was never pure or uncontaminated for very long. They had already proven that they were incorrigible long before Jesus’ arrival. God had ceased sending his prophets to correct them for hundreds of years.

Jesus also told this woman of the nations that he was the Messiah….the first one to hear that declaration from him.

Antisemitism comes from Satan and they are his follower practicing hatred.

Antisemitism is as old as Christianity…..in fact we can put the blame for it squarely at their own feet as their own declaration came back to haunt them. As Jesus was being condemned before Pilate, the crowd was in an uproar whipped up by Jesus’ vengeful opposers…..

”Seeing that it did no good but, rather, an uproar was arising, Pilate took water and washed his hands before the crowd, saying: “I am innocent of the blood of this man. You yourselves must see to it.” 25 At that all the people said in answer: “Let his blood come upon us and upon our children.”

“All the people said“ this….and claimed responsibility for the crime in which they were complicit, being carried out. You think God excused that? He foresaw it.

God knew that their disobedience would result in them not being repentant….and their history shows that they were a “stiff necked people” who routinely defected from the true worship of their God and pursued excursions into false worship...leading to God’s punishments. He stopped punishing them because he knew it didn’t result in any continued obedience to his commands.

Jesus confirmed their fate. (Matt 23:37-39) They will never recognize Jesus as the one God sent to rescue them. To this day, as a nation, they hate all mention of him, although individuals out of that nation have come to Christ, accepting him as their savior.

Anyone who thinks the Jews or their blood stained homeland have any religious significance today, haven’t read the Bible.

 

[TheHC]

Jesus had to die to make the sacrifice or their would be no salvation.If you tried to stop Christ from making the sacrifice he would say the same thing he said to Peter "Get behind me Satan" Do you not understand that?

So, Judas Iscariot should be praised for the part he played in Jesus’ death?

What does the Bible say?

And re: the Jews, what did Jesus say at Matthew 23:37,38? (Especially vs.38.)

EDIT:
Oops! I just saw your post above mine, @Aunty Jane! Isn’t it amazing how, even tho we’re over 8,000 miles apart, we “speak in agreement” (1 Cor.1:10)? Evidence of Jehovah God’s spirit, eh? Unity like this is only possible through humility, accepting the guidance of Jesus’ brothers on earth today. (Specifically the Slave, of course. - Matthew 24:45-47)

 

[Brakelite]

I can find no mandate for Christians to observe the Sabbath, because it was part of the law that God “took out of the way,”

In this you are incorrect, and need to rethink your perspective. I recently offered this in another thread, but it gives this thread a perspective that ought to be noted...
Post in thread 'What is the truth that sets us free?' What is the truth that sets us free?

 

[PGS11]

How would you get that idea Jesus said to Judas Satan was about to tempt him looking right at him he got up left and sold Jesus for 30 pieces of silver.He fell to the temptation of Satan which Jesus knew he was going to do..When he realized what had happened he committed suicide.That's not someone to be praised.Judas thought by doing it it would force Jesus to take up his power but he didn't know what Jesus came to do.The Jews thought that's what the Savior would do take up his power and drive the Romans out.Big mistake he should of trusted in Jesus.He also was the money holder which likely corrupted him.Satan wanted Jesus dead he thought Jesus would just die and go to the dead like everyone else.Satan was a big part of what was going on.Israel was in the middle of a Roman invasion occupied by the Rome and Caesar who took over the country.They thought the Savior would come take up his power and save them from the invasion.

If you want to praise him because Satan used him that's your prerogative no one else is going to.Judas the hero you say he brought salvation to the world?????I have never heard anyone defend his action before like that..

 

[Aunty Jane]

How would you get that idea Jesus said to Judas Satan was about to tempt him looking right at him he got up left and sold Jesus for 30 pieces of silver.He fell to the temptation of Satan which Jesus knew he was going to do..When he realized what had happened he committed suicide.That's not someone to be praised.Judas thought by doing it it would force Jesus to take up his power but he didn't know what Jesus came to do.The Jews thought that's what the Savior would do take up his power and drive the Romans out.Big mistake he should of trusted in Jesus.He also was the money holder which likely corrupted him.Satan wanted Jesus dead he thought Jesus would just die and go to the dead like everyone else.Satan was a big part of what was going on.Israel was in the middle of a Roman invasion occupied by the Rome and Caesar who took over the country.They thought the Savior would come take up his power and save them from the invasion.

If you want to praise him because Satan used him that's your prerogative no one else is going to.Judas the hero you say he brought salvation to the world?????I have never heard anyone defend his action before like that..

Not sure who you are addressing as you haven’t quoted anyone….

I think you misread @TheHC’s post….there was a question mark at the end of that sentence….it wasn’t a statement. No one is praising Judas because he committed the unforgivable sin…..as one who had partaken of the power of holy spirit in Jesus name, he had no excuse to betray his master. Greed got the better of him, which was shown when Lazarus’ sister poured very expensive oil on Jesus, symbolically anointing him for death. Judas was the one who protested because that oil, (worth about a year’s wages) could have been sold and the money given to the poor. But that was not his motive because he was a thief and was dipping his hand in the treasury box for himself, (John 12:2-7)…….and when he realized where satan had led him, he felt an enormous guilt, and because the Jews refused to take that blood money back, he threw the money into the Temple and went out and hanged himself.

Regardless of what the Jews imagined their Messiah would be, Jesus did not fit their vision of what the Messiah would do….that was to liberate his people from Roman domination and return them to the status they had at first….to be “a priesthood and a holy nation”….but in no way had they earned that right and with their long history of unfaithfulness and false worship, and now with the murder of Jesus Christ, they sealed their own fate. Fleshly Israel was cast off and thrown back into the nations, just as Judas had thrown the price of his betrayal back into the Temple….the place where the hypocritical religious leaders had no doubt plotted Christ’s death.

God chose a new nation to serve him, creating a spiritual nation dedicated to Him through the teachings of his son, and which included Jewish as well as gentile Christians…..Paul called these ones “the Israel of God” These were then spiritual “Jews”… (Gal 6:16; Rom 2:28-29)….with circumcision of the heart, not the flesh.

As a nation, natural Israel lost their place in God’s Kingdom, but they had no one to blame but themselves.

 

[Jack]

As a nation, natural Israel lost their place in God’s Kingdom, but they had no one to blame but themselves.

Guess where Jesus will return Aunty. It's called Israel. Have you ever read the Bible?

 

[Aunty Jane]

Guess where Jesus will return Aunty. It's called Israel. Have you ever read the Bible?

Where does it say that Jack? Israel is a people in the Bible….named after Jacob…..the land they were given is no longer “holy”…it is saturated with innocent blood. (Isa 1:15) Israel as a nation do not have God on their side….otherwise they would not have to rely on foreign nations to support them….ones whose religion they despise.…and whose god they do not recognize.

Luke 1:68
68 "Blessed is the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited and redeemed His people,

Who are God’s people? No longer “Israel“ according to the flesh, but a new spiritual nation whom Paul called “the Israel of God” (Gal 6:16)…made up of both Jewish and gentile Christians.

You can read the Bible, but you don’t understand a thing it says…..I am not sure why you are even here as your arguments are as shallow as the limited basis of your faith. You just parrot what others have told you, assuming that you cannot be wrong.…and that those with a different set of beliefs cannot be correct.

Let‘s just wait and see…..Jesus will tell us all soon enough….

 

[Jack]

Where does it say that Jack?

Zechariah 14:1-4
1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
3 Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle.
4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east.

Guess where Jerusalem is Aunty. It's called Israel, the Land of the Bible! Read the Bible Aunty, instead of WitchTower propaganda!

Israel is a people in the Bible….

Do you know how to read a map? It's called Israel.

named after Jacob…..the land they were given is no longer “holy”…it is saturated with innocent blood. (Isa 1:15) Israel as a nation do not have God on their side….otherwise they would not have to rely on foreign nations to support them….ones whose religion they despise.…and whose god they do not recognize.

Luke 1:68
68 "Blessed is the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited and redeemed His people,

BINGO!

Who are God’s people? No longer “Israel“ according to the flesh, but a new spiritual nation whom Paul called “the Israel of God” (Gal 6:16)…made up of both Jewish and gentile Christians.

Another Israel identity THIEF!

You can read the Bible, but you don’t understand a thing it says…..

I understand you called Jesus Satanic!

I am not sure why you are even here as your arguments are as shallow as the limited basis of your faith. You just parrot what others have told you, assuming that you cannot be wrong.…and that those with a different set of beliefs cannot be correct.

How ironic! lol

Let‘s just wait and see…..Jesus will tell us all soon enough….

I don't think you're gonna like what Jesus tells WitchTower puppets.

Matthew 25:41 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

 

[quietthinker]

Zechariah 14:1-4
1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
3 Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle.
4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east.

Guess where Jerusalem is Aunty. It's called Israel!

Do you know how to read a map? It's called Israel.

BINGO!

Another Israel identity THIEF!

I understand you called Jesus Satanic!

How ironic! lol

I don't think you're gonna like what Jesus tells WitchTower puppets.

Matthew 25:41 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

Have you ever wondered why Jesus remained silent and didn't defend himself when he was arraigned before the Sanhedrin, Jack?

Just imagine the scriptures he could have quoted. Just imagine the tricks he could have pulled after walking on the water, making paralysed people walk. Feeding thousands from virtually crumbs. Raising the dead.

Surely he would have had something to say.....if anybody did!

 

[Jack]

Have you ever wondered why Jesus remained silent and didn't defend himself when he was arraigned before the Sanhedrin, Jack?

Just imagine the scriptures he could have quoted. Just imagine the tricks he could have pulled after walking on the water, making paralysed people walk. Feeding thousands from virtually crumbs. Raising the dead.

Surely he would have had something to say.....if anybody did!

Jesus came to die for us. Why would He try to prevent it?

 

[Jack]

What did Jesus say were the only Commandments that a Christian should follow?

Why would you believe Jesus when you said His perfectly clear warnings of the everlasting fire are Satanic???

 

[Hobie]

What did Jesus say were the only Commandments that a Christian should follow?

Matt 22:34-40…
”After the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they came together in one group. 35 And one of them, versed in the Law, tested him by asking: 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37 He said to him: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ 38 This is the greatest and first commandment. 39 The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments the whole Law hangs, and the Prophets.”

As a Jew, under Law he was answering a Jew under Law, but it’s interesting that he said…”On these two commandments the whole Law hangs, and the Prophets.”
For his disciples, all of whom were Jewish, the Law was binding until his death, which released them from “the curse of the Law”.
Gal 3:10, 13…
“All those who depend on works of law are under a curse, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not remain in all the things written in the scroll of the Law by doing them.” . . .
13  Christ purchased us, releasing us from the curse of the Law by becoming a curse instead of us, because it is written: “Accursed is every man hung upon a tree.” (Deut 21:23)

All Christians were released from the curse of the Law including the Jews who accepted Jesus as Messiah.
For those Jews who rejected him (and still do almost 2000 years later) the Law still operates to continue to curse them. Christians are now under only two laws, which Jesus himself advocated……”You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ 38 This is the greatest and first commandment. 39 The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’”

These commands only are Christians under obligation to keep……no Sabbath observance was required here.

And where will I find that stated in Scripture? Upon what do you base that assumption?
The mark of the beast has nothing to do with the Sabbath, but everything to do with a Christian’s loyalty to God rather than to an authoritarian government.

I see very clearly that the Church of Rome set most of the doctrines by which those who identify as “Christians” even today, practice their faith…..but Christendom is not “Babylon the great”, even though she is the most reprehensible part, introducing all those doctrines that are held in paganism to this day.

Their whole foundation revolves around three major beliefs that they all hold in common and that originated in ancient Babylon……a multiplicity of gods, many of which existed in triads…..belief that the dead are not really dead, but that some immortal part of them lives on in another (invisible) realm….and the destination of those immortal souls also has them enjoying either a heavenly bliss, or eternal torment in a fiery hell.

The Bible teaches none of those things.

I didn’t stop Hobie, which is why I see further than you apparently can…..I too keep the posters here in my prayers as God sees their responses to the Scriptures I post, along with clear explanations as to where we are in the stream of time, and who are the most vulnerable to satan’s lies. His web of deceit is wider than many imagine, and we will all answer to the same judge….some of us in total disbelief at the end! (Matt 7:21-23)

If you accept the trinity, immortality of the soul, and hellfire, along with all those unchristian celebrations that are all borrowed unashamedly from pagan religions, then you stopped learning what God requires of his worshippers…..no contamination with false religion or being “part of the world” can be acceptable to a genuine disciple of Christ. (2 Cor 6:14-18; John 18:36; 1 John 5:19)

These things are what separate “the sheep from the goats”….”the wheat from the weeds”. We are telling God who we really are every day of our lives by what we accept as truth. The majority will be found traveling the wrong road. (Matt 7:13-14) See what unites them all…..it’s got nothing to do with the Sabbath. It’s a red herring.

Loving God is shown especially our worship, if we turn away from the true day He made for us as the Sabbath, what does that say. That we claim we love Him, but we don't follow it with action, our words mean nothing it's just lip service. It's important to God what we do, especially in our worship...

 

[quietthinker]

Jesus came to die for us. Why would He try to prevent it?

According to his prayer in the garden, it was the last thing he wanted to do....but it seems men were so intent on getting rid of him, he allowed them to kill him.
He knew men would stop at nothing to kill him but that didn't stop him from visiting our planet to show us first hand the character of his Father.....and it wasn't the character of one who has his own son murdered.
To underscore and reiterate that God is love and in him is no darkness at all he used none of his powers for selfish gain....not even to save his life.

 

[quietthinker]

Loving God is shown especially our worship, if we turn away from the true day He made for us as the Sabbath, what does that say. That we claim we love Him, but we don't follow it with action, our words mean nothing it's just lip service. It's important to God what we do, especially in our worship...

When I read the fourth commandment Hobie, I read that it was given to and for us to rest....you know, have a break from the everyday activity and busy-ness. Hang out with your friends and enjoy each other company; hang out with Jesus in your midst.

How is it that a day designated for rest has morphed into a day designated for worship?
Surely we can worship at anytime 24/7 when one understands what worship consists of. This too (worship) has morphed into regimented 'religious' activity which is a lonnnngggggg cry from what worship actually is.

You no doubt are aware that many 'Sabbath keepers' are so exhausted after following their busy schedule of 'worship' on the Sabbath, they need to have a day off so they can recuperate in order to be up to the coming week's work.

 

[Taken]

Is Antisemitism caused by hatred of the Sabbath?​

Like and Love are not Opposites.
Hate is not the Opposite of Love.
Hate is a strong dislike.

Hebrews / Tribes / “Jews” (bloodline) were Gods Chosen people, to BE a “peculiar” People.

Not a big Secret…
The Human Race instinctively likes, is comfortable, enjoys Like minded, Culturally similar People.

Not saying, Humans are disinterested in others different from them…
But am saying, broadly, one “group” does not eagerly accept being force to have their “Likes” overwhelmingly bombarded rather than “others” assimilating.

Also not a Secret…
Humans have emotional / passionate “jealously” between humans…

Factor in the Religious aspect…And every individual / group is “intellectually, emotionally and spiritually…Correct in their own Beliefs and Standing”.

Factor in…One God is the Creator AND Maker of All Humans…and Only a portion of All Humans will “assimilate” to becoming “MADE” a “peculiar” People God Desires…
Because…again…”every individual / group”…
Is Correct in their own Belief and Standing!”

Fact Is:
From the Beginning the Lord God Almighty DIVIDED (many things, including Humans).

A “Separation” of the “Divided” shall come to pass.

All the Logical Mindful Discontent shall pass…and whether or not an individual / group recognizes A Heaven God (creator AND maker)….called by “whatever name / title”… God knows their heart, and imho, Shall “Separate” Them unto Himself, From All others who Rejected the Heavenly Lord God Almighty.

(Side note. Not “choosing” Belief IN the Heavenly God Almighty, IS a Rejection….inasmuch as Advocating Against Him.)

Sabbath, a cause for Jewish Hatred? No.
I rather think it hinges on basic jealousy and escalates from there.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Lambano]

The Protestants hate the Catholics,
And the Catholics hate the Protestants,
And the Hindus hate the Muslims,
And everybody hates the Jews
- Tom Lehrer, National Brotherhood Week

 

[Jack]

According to his prayer in the garden, it was the last thing he wanted to do....but it seems men were so intent on getting rid of him, he allowed them to kill him.
He knew men would stop at nothing to kill him but that didn't stop him from visiting our planet to show us first hand the character of his Father.....and it wasn't the character of one who has his own son murdered.
To underscore and reiterate that God is love and in him is no darkness at all he used none of his powers for selfish gain....not even to save his life.

Does God love those He will burn in Hell forever?

 

[Aunty Jane]

Zechariah 14:1-4
1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
3 Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle.
4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east.

Is there more than one “Jerusalem”, Jack? Do you understand symbolisms? You actually understand very little when it comes to the Bible, so your childish retorts are just that…ignorant rubbish.

FWIW…. Back in the year 70CE, the Roman legions surrounded the rebellious city of Jerusalem and wiped it out of existence. Such destruction of ancient Jerusalem by the Roman armies had been foretold by another very important prophet of God, namely, Jesus Christ.
According to Jesus’ own statement God had abandoned Jerusalem’s house of worship, its temple, and so God did not defend that antichristian city in that year 70. (Matt 23:37-39) He let it be razed to the ground. God had another “Jerusalem” in existence at that time, and no Roman armies could touch it.

The apostle Paul called attention to this other “Jerusalem” even before the earthly Jerusalem was wiped out.
In Gal 4:25-26, Paul spoke of this other “Jerusalem”.…..as “Jerusalem above,” which was also referred to in another letter written years before the Romans destroyed earthly Jerusalem in 70 C.E. This letter was addressed to Hebrews who had become Christians and said to them….. “But you have approached a Mount Zion and a city of the living God, heavenly Jerusalem, and myriads of angels, . . . and God the Judge of all, . . . and Jesus the mediator of a new covenant.” (Heb 12:22-24)

You are not a Bible student Jack, so your arguments are superficial and empty.…devoid of any understanding.

Look at these….

Guess where Jerusalem is Aunty. It's called Israel, the Land of the Bible! Read the Bible Aunty, instead of WitchTower propaganda!

Do you know how to read a map? It's called Israel.

Are you 5 years old? Do you have any real knowledge at all?
For goodness sake try and learn from the replies that are given you…..your confidence is misplaced.

Another Israel identity THIEF!

Are you serious? Read the Scripture quoted to you above and see that literal Jerusalem is no longer “holy” to God because of the amount of hatred and bloodshed that saturated the land.
There are three “Abrahamic” religions who fight over this now polluted piece of dirt….the Jews, Muslims and “Christians”…..none of whom know the God they claim to worship.…so your reference to Matt 7:21-23 may well apply to the “Christianity” you subscribe to.…..the one Jesus says he has NEVER known.

I understand you called Jesus Satanic!

You are lying Jack….I could not have ever said such a thing.

I don't think you're gonna like what Jesus tells WitchTower puppets.

Matthew 25:41 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

Be prepared….those who claim Jesus as their “Lord”, but who are not doing the will of his Father, will not come out of that judgment well.

Why would you believe Jesus when you said His perfectly clear warnings of the everlasting fire are Satanic???

The teaching of “hellfire” is satanic because it is not from Jesus…..perhaps you need to understand what “Gehenna” is as this is what Jesus spoke about…and it isn’t “hell”. The “everlasting fire” is pictorial, like so many other things in the Bible. There is no hell of ECT.

Do some actual research Jack, if you are capable….and see what you have put your faith in. Deception isn’t obvious because the devil is an expert at it….and he loves people like you…all too willing to point ignorant fingers at others without looking at themselves and their hateful speech…..according to Jesus the devil has the majority traveling the wrong road….(Matt 7:13-14) Are you one of them?

Does God love those He will burn in Hell forever?

No Jack, he hates what they do, so he will eliminate all wickedness and those who willfully practice it. He doesn’t need to torture them in order to do that…only a fiend would take pleasure in something so disgusting.
Everlasting death is the opposite of everlasting life….God’s punishment doesn’t need to be more ghoulish than that.

 

[quietthinker]

Does God love those He will burn in Hell forever?

God will be forever lonely for those who would not live.