Outstanding! This false claim is being stated in several threads simultaneously. Thanks for this post and verse.
Agreed. Fortunately, I will not see his reply to your post here because I put him - and his darkness - on ignore.
Hey Wrangler, I guess I want to chime in at this time, as you might already know that Epi is spewing out some really outrageous claims, required to support his grand personal doctrine he has built over the years, and it's still changing.....
You might be wearing high rubber boots by now because the BS is getting laid down thick...
(Rom 3:21) "
But now apart from the law, a righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets- "
We ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW PERIOD! If Epi keep saying it then he has not shown it in scripture, because it's not there. HE NEEDS it to be true to support his grand(e) doctrine built on sand.
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A little long winds here as I will look at this subject and the similar/same one, that we are NOT under the law of Sinai.
Rom 3:30 since God is one. He will justify the circumcised
by faith and the uncircumcised
by faith. NOT EPI's works as HIS condition of some alien form of salvation.
Rom 3:31 " Do we then make the law of no effect through faith? God forbid. No,
we establish the law."
We establish the law...and what does that really mean here in context?
Believers under grace do not establish the law as a means of justification or salvation. Instead, they understand that the law serves as a
reflection of God’s character and a guide for living a life pleasing to Him. Here are some key points to consider:
- The law is not a means of salvation: The law cannot save us because it is impossible to keep it perfectly. Romans 3:20 says, “For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.” Instead, we are justified by faith in Jesus Christ (Romans 3:24-25).
- The law is a reflection of God’s character: The law reveals God’s character and His desire for a relationship with us. Psalm 119:1-3 says, “Blessed are those whose ways are blameless, who walk according to the law of the Lord. Blessed are those who keep his statutes and seek him with all their heart—those who also seek him, delight in him and live in his ways.” The law shows us what God’s heart is like and what He desires for us.
- The law is a guide for living: The law provides guidance for living a life pleasing to God. Jesus said, “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them” (Matthew 5:17). The law is not abolished, but it is fulfilled in us through faith in Christ.
- The law is written on the heart: When we come to faith in Christ, the Holy Spirit writes the law on our hearts (Jeremiah 31:33, Hebrews 8:10). This means that we are given a new heart that desires to obey God’s law and live according to His character.
- The law is a means of sanctification: The law is not just a means of justification, but also a means of sanctification. It helps us to grow in our relationship with God and to live a life pleasing to Him. James 1:22-25 says, “But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks intently at his natural face in a mirror, for he looks at himself and goes away and at once forgets what he was like. But the one who looks intently into the perfect law of liberty and abides by it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer who acts, he will be blessed in his doing, and he will receive the blessing of God.”
In summary, believers under grace do not establish the law as a means of justification or salvation. Instead, they understand that the law is a reflection of God’s character, a guide for living, and a means of sanctification. They are motivated to obey the law because they have been given a new heart by the Holy Spirit and desire to live according to God’s character.
--------------and more prose for the same Epi Sinai accusation to all genuine believers....
According to the biblical passages, believers are not under the law of God from Sinai. Instead,
they are under grace. This is evident in Romans 6:14, which states, “
For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.”
The Law and Sin
The law, as given through Moses, was a system of rules and regulations that governed the Israelites’ relationship with God. However,
this law was not able to save them from sin, as they continued to sin despite knowing the law (Romans 3:20). In contrast, grace is the unmerited favor of God, which is received through faith in Jesus Christ.
The Believer’s Relationship with God
As believers, we are no longer under the law, but under grace. This means that we are
not bound by the law’s requirements, and
we are not judged by its standards. Instead,
we are free to
live according to the Spirit, who guides us and empowers us to live a life pleasing to God (Romans 8:1-4).
The Role of the Law
While believers are not under the law, the law still plays a role in the Christian life.
The law serves as a mirror, revealing our sin and our need for a Savior (James 1:22-25). It also serves
as a guide, providing wisdom and instruction for living a life that honors God (1 Corinthians 9:21). However, the law is
not the means by which we are justified or saved; rather, it is faith in Jesus Christ that sets us free from the law’s curse and enables us to live a life of freedom and joy in the Spirit.
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Have a great day Wrangler!