I am not sure how God prepared the world for humanity its too brief in Genesis for me to understand there wouldn't be enough paper in the world to write it all down but I do understand what its saying. Its telling us we were created not a product of evolution God created Adam first and who knows how long he was with God before Eve was created from his rib - he did name everything can't do that in a day.The lie being told that comes from Satan is that man is a produce of evolution which has caused so many people to turn to Atheism that is why the theory of evolution of Man goes against the bible and is so dangerous.To me how God created the world is too big to wrap my head around but I believe humanity to be created not a produce of evolution a created being by God himself this is what the bible tells us.Does it really matter how God prepared the world for humanity?I know it is to some people and I respect that but to me it doesn't matter what happen before Humanity or how it was done.That God created man out of his love for man is important for me and to know we are not a produce of evolution.Everything else can be but don't tell me man is that is a lie from Satan.As a Christian you have to believe in man as a created being.If man is a produce of evolution you can just throw the bible in the trash.
Adam and Eve and Evolution
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The other thing that I would add here is people will say but you can't that means incest and the answer to that is yes. If you had the first 2 human's from evolution you would still have incest you can't get away from it. Its only later that it becomes dangerous causing deformities and bad genes and was no longer allowed.There is no other way to populate the earth.Its a sin and immoral now but there was a time when it had to happen in order to populate the earth whether you choose creation or evolution.People lived extremely long lives if you look at their ages.
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Rockerduck
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All sin was passed down from Adam. Incest included. Gideon had over 100 kids in his lifetime. How many could Adam have.
Individual sin was not passed on the sinful nature of man was passed on from the fall of humanity its why you sin - not sin you inherit.I inherit no ones sins I am guilty of my own sin due to the sinful nature I inherited knowing good from evil and choosing evil in sin . I am in a fallen state prone to sin caused by Satan and the fallen Angels who tempted Eve to bring humanity down and prevent us from ascending to heaven no one can ascend to heaven in this state only in Christ can you ascend to heaven. ..The bible tells us Adam was 930 years old when he died he had many children it was his Job to be fruitful and multiply.
They ate the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil and immediately fell into a fallen state which they were told not to eat by God.The Tree of life was also there among others in the garden of Eden..
They ate the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil and immediately fell into a fallen state which they were told not to eat by God.The Tree of life was also there among others in the garden of Eden..
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Rockerduck
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When you were a child, you lied and nobody taught you. You also took things as a child and nobody taught you that. That is the sin nature you were born with.
Romans 5:12 - When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned.
Romans 8:23 - for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God
Death came to humanity with the fall of humanity.Yes sin entered the world because you know what sin is you are aware of good and evil and are guilty if you sin.Yes all have sinned because of the sinful nature they inherited they don't carry the sins of other.Christ will carry your sins for you or you won't make it.
Rockerduck
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You use humanity instead of Adam, it is because of Adam that sin entered the world. One Man, that is all. The blood of Christ redeemed our sin from the world and through His death on the Cross, Christ conquered death, that Adam brought into the world.
Actually Eve sinned first not Adam when she ate the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and then got Adam to eat the fruit.Adam could not sin until he ate the fruit.You quote lines without any back ground .Satan brought sin and death into the world through Eve and then Adam the bible clearly says this and they did it for a reason.Why did they do it because of their hatred for humanity.
The problem today is no one believes in Genesis and what happened they want to find another reason.The do not believe in Adam and Eve and the fall of humanity.They believe in evolution that man is not a created being who fell from Gods grace. If you don't believe it what is your faith about why do you need salvation?
The problem today is no one believes in Genesis and what happened they want to find another reason.The do not believe in Adam and Eve and the fall of humanity.They believe in evolution that man is not a created being who fell from Gods grace. If you don't believe it what is your faith about why do you need salvation?
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Rockerduck
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Sin is not passed down through the woman, Eve, only through Adam. Christ was born by the Holy Spirit through Mary and Jesus was born sinless. The woman does not pass sin. The woman receives the sin nature but doesn't pass it.
What this is about is a group of Angel that hated humanity so much and could not stand the thought of one human soul entering heaven.Their goal was to bring humanity down from the very beginning to prevent us from obtaining eternal life.Its not just about Adam it a war for souls and people better understand that. No one believes that either they want another reason for salvation its too much for them to believe but its what the bible says.They are the enemies of salvation and will do what they have to to prevent us from obtaining eternal life and have already done enormous damage to Gods creation.
Jesus soul was the first human soul to enter heaven before that no human soul had ever entered into heaven its why he came took on flesh and a soul and raised his soul to heaven not human was capable of doing it ever and there will never be a human who can only in Christ can your soul be raised up to eternal life..Its through his resurrection that we find salvation we cannot resurrect ourselves.
Jesus soul was the first human soul to enter heaven before that no human soul had ever entered into heaven its why he came took on flesh and a soul and raised his soul to heaven not human was capable of doing it ever and there will never be a human who can only in Christ can your soul be raised up to eternal life..Its through his resurrection that we find salvation we cannot resurrect ourselves.
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The same thing is believed by the other two faiths the first 5 books are the Torah or Books of Moses Judaism dealt with it by doing sacrifices for their sins which was not enough and fell short - Islam does not deal with it Jesus just comes at the end to destroy Satan.Christianity deals with it directly by the resurrection of Christ who we find our salvation in and doorway to heaven.
Rockerduck
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Its not so much they hated humans as the wanted to be with humans. Satan was in the garden of Eden and is here now in this present time. I have talked to Satan and felt his hands on me. It is Satan' s job to corrupt humans so as not to seek God and Satan can influence people, Satan knew your father, Grandfather, Great Grandfather, etc. Satan knows you better.
I think in Judaism God knew it was never going to be enough to obtain eternal life and Jesus was always the plan for salvation in his death and resurrection. God tested Abraham at the very beginning by asking him to sacrifice his only Son and Abraham passed the test and God did not require Abraham's son it was a test.Abraham truly loved his son with all his heart the son he prayed for the son long for his entire life and God asked him to sacrifice his precious son and Abraham obeyed.So it seems God planned for Jesus to bring salvation was from the very beginning when man fell from grace.
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Rockerduck
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Yes, it was God's plan in the very beginning.
Genesis 3:15 - and I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Jesus would battle against Satan and defeat Satan at the cross.
I agree people don't realize what was going on at that moment when Christ gave up his soul they only see Jesus on the cross but much more was going on.
Those before Christ are saved in the same way we are saved they believed in God and the coming of the Savior and we believe in God and the Savior has come.
Adam and Eve were waiting for Christ
Those before Christ are saved in the same way we are saved they believed in God and the coming of the Savior and we believe in God and the Savior has come.
Adam and Eve were waiting for Christ
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Any crime or sin is only a crime or sin if there is a law against it.
Until Moses there was no law against brothers and sisters marrying, so legally there was no incest in that period.
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