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[Ritajanice]

Well, then when my mom and my dad, and my greatgrandma, and my preacher and my sunday school teacher all were telling a big fat lie to me.... AND STUPID ME BELIEVED THEM......

I always knew that church was a waste of time.

And while this has nothing at all to do with being born again or being saved....

I had the 23rd psalm memorized by the time I was 8 or 9... and understood it, as well as the Apostles creed and Lord's Prayer all in grade school time.

Such a waste of time, eh?




Golly gee. I was a liar too... wasn't I?

If you take what I posted personally that’s on you.

Lieing John... 3:16 I believed him....“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. For it was preached adnauseum that I was of the world and I needed to believe so I did.

Fine...that is your own opinion/ testimony and belief.

I have posted my own opinion/testimony and belief.

You have nothing to prove to me..I believe what I believe.

You believe what you believe...

As a non believer I was alienated from God and never knew him in my spirit, not until I was Born Of The Spirit did I know God’s Love, His Love that he poured into my heart when he made my spirit Born Again via His witness His Living Holy Spirit...overwhelmed my spirit...I could not believe that he Loved me truly and purely....yet he did and that came through heart revelation, when the Spirit testified with my spirit that I was God’s child....blew me away and still does to this day...33 yrs nearly Born Again..my opinion, testimony and belief

I did not read the word at 5 or 6 years old

I am done........................................................

Ok, you are done..have a nice day.

 

[Scott Downey]

John 14
15 “If you love me, you will keep[g] my commandments.
16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate,[h] to be with you forever.
17 This is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him because he abides with you, and he will be[i] in[j] you.

The world does not know God, and therefore does not know Christ.
and the opposite is also true, because the world does not know Christ, the world does not know God.
God is the ONE who performs HIS works in us.

The reason we know the Father, is the Spirit who dwells in us has revealed to us the Father and the Son.
The world does not have any of this knowing testifying to them from God's Spirit within them.
That is a reason the world remains unbelieving.

Christ has come and given to us an understanding to know Him who is true, the true God and eternal life, something the world can never experience, and the world cannot receive as it neither knows Him nor sees Him.

The only one True God , He alone can make this knowing of themselves happen according to His will for each and every person whether they know Him or not know Him.


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[Ritajanice]

The reason we know the Father, is the Spirit who dwells in us has revealed to us the Father and the Son.
The world does not have any of this knowing testifying to them from God's Spirit within them.
That is a reason the world remains unbelieving.

At last someone on the same level of spiritual knowledge and spiritual understanding.

Amen!!

Praise God!

1 Corinthians 12:3New King James Version (NKJV) Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.

 

[JBO]

The only one True God , He alone can make this knowing of themselves happen according to His will for each and every person whether they know Him or not know Him..

Then why doesn't He do it?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Show me scripture where God says my souls goes back to God...I will then rest my case and stand corrected.

Show me in scripture where my soul does not go to heaven

and maybe you have a case.

well here. let me help

Revelation 6:9

Fifth Seal: The Cry of the Martyrs​

When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held.

Revelation 20:4

The Saints Reign with Christ 1,000 Years​

And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

1 Peter 1:9

receiving the end of your faith—the salvation of your souls.

1 Thessalonians 5:23

Blessing and Admonition​

Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Well, then when my mom and my dad, and my greatgrandma, and my preacher and my sunday school teacher all were telling a big fat lie to me.... AND STUPID ME BELIEVED THEM......

I always knew that church was a waste of time.

And while this has nothing at all to do with being born again or being saved....

I had the 23rd psalm memorized by the time I was 8 or 9... and understood it, as well as the Apostles creed and Lord's Prayer all in grade school time.

Such a waste of time, eh?




Golly gee. I was a liar too... wasn't I?


Lieing John... 3:16 I believed him....“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. For it was preached adnauseum that I was of the world and I needed to believe so I did.


I did not read the word at 5 or 6 years old

I am done........................................................

I see you have felt it too.. Now maybe you understand

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Sorry not biblical.

It’s because of His death and resurrection that we can become Born Again and saved from eternal damnation.

He took our sin onto his body not into his Spirit, there was no sin in Jesus Spirit.

Scripture saying that the Spirit entered Saul, I thought he spoke to Saul on the Damascus Road?

You don’t tell God when he can make your spirit Born Again

Jesus was God in the flesh...I am not allowed to talk about the T.

Complete and utter confusion..quickly scrolling on by.

That is once again just your opinion and can’t be backed up using scripture.

lol

You keep saying all this CRAP. But have noting to back what you are claiming..

Continue on.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

At last someone on the same level of spiritual knowledge and spiritual understanding.

Amen!!

Praise God!

1 Corinthians 12:3New King James Version (NKJV) Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.

Same lost soul more like it.

 

[marks]

Except that is scripturally backwards and puts man in control of becoming saved.
Salvation begins and ends with God in control. Jesus is author and finisher of your faith.

You need to reconcile your view to the verbs which speak otherwise, as I've posted in detail.

Much love!

 

[marks]

There is no where in scripture where God says we are Born Again by persuading our minds to become Born Again as you said,

marks said:
I was first persuaded by God in my mind

it’s not Gods word and that’s why it’s confusing reading it, to say the least.

That is not how we are Born Of The Spirit in Gods word.

That's not what I said, and you are misrepresenting me by showing only a part of my quote.

What do you call it when you speak things not true of others?

Much love!

 

[Ritajanice]

That's not what I said, and you are misrepresenting me by showing only a part of my quote.

What do you call it when you speak things not true of others?

Much love!

You said he persuaded you in your mind...then went onto say the rest.

None of what you posted is how we are Born Again my lovely...therefore I will rebuke your words.

 

[Ritajanice]

Same lost soul more like it.

You seem very desperate to get me to believe your theology and doctrine..I don’t 100% and never will.

So I think it best we disengage my lovely.

 

[Ritajanice]

lol

You keep saying all this CRAP. But have noting to back what you are claiming..

Continue on.

Unfortunately I have posted Gods word and for some reason it greatly upsets you.

You seem desperate for me to agree with imo your manmade theology and doctrine, I don’t and never will 100% ...you lack spiritual words, imo, your words are seriously empty and full of self.

Therefore I think it best we disengage my lovely don’t you?

I wish you well...have a wonderful day and may God Bless you abundantly!.xx

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You seem very desperate to get me to believe your theology and doctrine..I don’t 100% and never will.

So I think it best we disengage my lovely.

lol.

I am not desperate. (way to blame shift)

Like I said, I could care less if you agree or not..

But I will not have you falsly accuse people

 

[Ritajanice]

lol.

I am not desperate. (way to blame shift)

Like I said, I could care less if you agree or not..

But I will not have you falsly accuse people

You have just voiced your own opinion of me falsely accusing people.

I have made no false accusations..in my opinion.

 

[Ritajanice]

I was first persuaded by God in my mind, and then I received Him into my heart, and He made me born again, alive in the Spirit

This is not biblical on how we are Born Of The Spirit.

Only Gods word stands forever in our hearts as we have been Born Again of imperishable seed that liveth and abideth forever....that is the word of God/ Biblical....in Jesus Name!..Amen!.....

That is your own opinion /testimony and belief on how you became Born Again.

 

[marks]

None of what you posted is how we are Born Again

That's your opinion. Scripture says otherwise.

Much love!

 

[Ritajanice]

That's your opinion. Scripture says otherwise.

Much love!

Scripture says that is not how we are Born Of The Spirit..just as Jesus explains beautifully to Nicodemus on how we are Born Again...not saved , Born Again.

Scripture you have posted mentions nothing about being Born Again/ Born Of The Spirit.

I posted Gods word..you did not you posted your own testimony same as me and everyone else..you cannot prove you have been Born Again no more than I can or anyone else.

We post scripture on how we believe we became Born Again.


No one is saved from eternal damnation not until their spirit is Born Again..

 

[Johann]

Scripture says that is not how we are Born Of The Spirit..just as Jesus explains beautifully to Nicodemus on how we are Born Again...not saved , Born Again.

No one is saved from eternal damnation not until their spirit is Born Again..

Do you have a gospel? What is the gospel?

Eph 1:13 And καὶ in ἐν [Him] ᾧ you ὑμεῖς, were sealed ἐσφραγίσθητε with τῷ the τῷ - τῆς promised ἐπαγγελίας Holy Ἁγίῳ, Spirit Πνεύματι - ἐν - , ᾧ having heard ἀκούσαντες and καὶ believed πιστεύσαντες the τὸν word λόγον - τῆς of truth, ἀληθείας, the τὸ gospel εὐαγγέλιον of τῆς your ὑμῶν, salvation. σωτηρίας
Eph 1:14 [The Spirit] ὅ* is ἐστιν [the] pledge ἀρραβὼν of our ἡμῶν, - τῆς inheritance κληρονομίας until εἰς [the] redemption ἀπολύτρωσιν of those [who are] τῆς [God’s] possession, περιποιήσεως, to εἰς [the] praise ἔπαινον of τῆς His αὐτοῦ. glory. δόξης

J.

 

[Ritajanice]

I’m afraid the Gospel doesn’t make our spirit Born Again...only Gods Spirit can do that just as His word says.

Of course those without the Spirit would understand none of these spiritual words..they would be folly to them.

Hearing anyone preach the gospel does not make one’s spirit Born Again..that is a supernatural/spiritual act that only God can perform if it’s his will to do so..we are Born Again of Gods seed, that is by Gods Witness His Living Holy Spirit....

Only the Father can draw us to Jesus by His Holy Spirit Power none can stop being chosen and predestined by God to become Born Again...mind Blowing!

My opinion/ testimony and belief.