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Ritajanice

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Do you think these are different things?

Much love!
I’ve asked you a few questions regarding scripture, if you post scripture you should be able to explain it’s meaning as the Spirit should have brought you to it’s understanding?

How do we know we are Alive in Christ?

What is Alive in Christ?
 

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You posted scripture, then voiced your opinion..this is not how God says we=are Born Of The Spirit
You are very consistent to deny the plain meanings of Scriptures, and declare, That's just your opinion, but you are not right in saying so. These Scriptures say certain things. I'm sharing with you what they are saying.

Much love!
 

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Do you suppose the Spirit will say something that is contradicted by the written Word?

I counsel you to receive the words of Scripture.

Much love!
Why aren’t you receiving Gods witness His Living Holy Spirit?

When I explained that the Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children ..you denied that was the Living birth did you not?


The Spirit talks/ testifies Gods truth as he’s indwelling our spirit...where do you think God given faith manifests itself?
 
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You are very consistent to deny the plain meanings of Scriptures, and declare, That's just your opinion, but you are not right in saying so. These Scriptures say certain things. I'm sharing with you what they are saying.

Much love!
You are very persistent also, denying that we are Born Again by Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit?

You are posting scripture, anyone can do that.

They need to be interpreted, who brings you to understand the written word?

How could you possibly know that the Bible is Gods word?
 

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I’ve asked you a few questions regarding scripture, if you post scripture you should be able to explain it’s meaning as the Spirit should have brought you to it’s understanding?

How do we know we are Alive in Christ?

What is Alive in Christ?
How do you answer these questions? I've answered these numerous times for you on other threads. Yet we keep returning to the same things. But I don't recall you ever telling me your answers.

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How do you answer these questions? I've answered these numerous times for you on other threads. Yet we keep returning to the same things. But I don't recall you ever telling me your answers.

Much love!
No you haven’t sweetie, you told me when I asked you these questions, that you have nothing to prove to me, that was your answer.
 

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No you haven’t sweetie, you told me when I asked you these questions, that you have nothing to prove to me, that was your answer.
I don't think that was me, I think you've confused me with someone else. Meanwhile, how do you answer those questions?

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Complex question, it's like asking, Have you stopped beating your wife?

Why do you assume I don't have the Holy Spirit's witness in me? Seriously, why?

Much love!
I have said no such thing.

I asked you how do you know that Jesus/ God exist?

How do you know that Jesus died and was resurrected...just by reading your Bible...sorry that won’t cut it?
 

Ritajanice

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Post the Scriptures, let's look at it.

Much love!
Spirit gives birth to spirit....flesh gives birth to flesh?

Whose Spirit gives birth to our spirit..do you think that you can read the spiritual birth into existence?

Also..this is how we are Born Of The Spirit.

John 3
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Jesus and Nicodemus
(Genesis 22:1–10; Romans 5:6–11)
1Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a leader of the Jews.2He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs You are doing if God were not with him.”
3Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.a
4“How can a man be born when he is old?” Nicodemus asked. “Can he enter his mother’s womb a second time to be born?”
5Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit. 7Do not be amazed that I said, ‘Youb must be born again.’ 8The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
 

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Being Born Of The Spirit is not there I’m afraid my lovely.
Sorry my friend, It most certainly is.
Again your opinion/ testimony and belief...Spirit gives birth to spirit and flesh gives birth to flesh is Biblical my friend.
Spirit gives birth to spirit is not found in scripture. Stop telling me it is my opinion. when you continue say somethign that is no where in the word.
We are saved only when we have become Born Of The Spirit,
Yes. and we are only born of the spirit when we receive Christ.,
...you must be Alive in your spirit, that’s where we are Born Again by Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit.
Yes. and this only happens when the penalty of sin is removed. And that is called justification. and we are justified by faith
That is your opinion it’s not biblical.
whatever
How do you know he was forcing his will onto you?
He was not forcing his will on me. But you claim he does..
Did you have a conversation with Gods Spirit...?..
You cannot reject being Born Again if it was God’s will, chosen and predestined..where you get this forcing his will onto us I have no idea.
I am not rejecting it. I am rejecting your view of what it means any how we are born again
He prepares our heart/ spirit , he opens it up to receive His Spirit..he had already planned that we would become Born Again before the foundation of the world
Yes.

he planned that all who see and believe will be saved. His words not mine
A child of God is a spiritual child...why...because their spirit my lovely has become Alive in Christ..it’s been Born Again.
I have become alive in Christ. stop with this spirit nonsense. I was made alive, My body is dead because of sin, I AM ALIVE because of righteousness. My spirit is me!!!!!
 

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It is your opinion / testimony and belief on how you became Born Again..it greatly differs from my opinion/ testimony and belief on how I became Born Of The Spirit.
I am not worried about your opinion.

I am worried about what the word of God says.

You should do the same.
 

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Spirit gives birth to spirit....flesh gives birth to flesh?

Whose Spirit gives birth to our spirit..do you think that you can read the spiritual birth into existence?

Also..this is how we are Born Of The Spirit.

John 3
Berean Standard BiblePar ▾
Jesus and Nicodemus
(Genesis 22:1–10; Romans 5:6–11)
1Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a leader of the Jews.2He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs You are doing if God were not with him.”
3Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.a
4“How can a man be born when he is old?” Nicodemus asked. “Can he enter his mother’s womb a second time to be born?”
5Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit. 7Do not be amazed that I said, ‘Youb must be born again.’ 8The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
This describes the person who is born of the Spirit. Where do you see an explanation of how that birth happens?

Much love!
 

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Sorry my friend, It most certainly is.

Spirit gives birth to spirit is not found in scripture. Stop telling me it is my opinion. when you continue say somethign that is no where in the word.
Yes it is is found in scripture..you bear false witness.
Yes. and we are only born of the spirit when we receive Christ.,
Not biblical.
Yes. and this only happens when the penalty of sin is removed. And that is called justification. and we are justified by faith
We are justified when we are+Born Again by Gods Witness His Living Holy Spirit .

Faith is a gift from God a manifestation of the Spirit?
whatever

He was not forcing his will on me. But you claim he does..
What, I asked you ,did you have a conversation with God, as you said he would not force his will onto you?

Where is that biblical?

You were the one who said he would not force you to believe?

So, how did the conversation go that you had with God?
I am not rejecting it. I am rejecting your view of what it means any how we are born again
I’m also rejecting yours 100% as imo it’s manmade indoctrinated religion.
Yes.

he planned that all who see and believe will be saved. His words not mine
That is not how God says we are Born Of The Spirit..that is your own understanding of what you think it means to be Born Of The Spirit
I have become alive in Christ. stop with this spirit nonsense. I was made alive, My body is dead because of sin, I AM ALIVE because of righteousness. My spirit is me!!!!!
What Spirit nonsense....we are Born Of The Spirit......

How did you come Alive in the righteousness of Christ?

My spirit is me, isn’t biblical..scripture please?
 

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John 1:10-13 KJV
10) He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11) He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12) But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13) Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

As many as received Him - active voice verb, the person himself does this

that believe on his name - another active voice verb, the person himself does this.

To them - this is the prerequisite, that you receive him, believing on his name

These are those to whom God gives power to become children of God.

If what you believe the Spirit is speaking to you is not in complete agreement with this written Word, that that inner voice disagrees with God's revelation to us. Don't just brush this off.

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This describes the person who is born of the Spirit. Where do you see an explanation of how that birth happens?

Much love!
What did that scripture tell you?

Can you see the wind?

Can you see God’s witness His Living Holy Spirit?

Can / did you see God’s witness when he brought your spirit Alive in Christ and made you one with the Spirit?

The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children...how does he do that, just by reading the written word?

Or by his supernatural power when Spirit gives birth to spirit?

Question..are you understanding my posts?