Runningman
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So let's assume people are born with a sin nature. They don't start sinning until when?
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Eternally Grateful
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There is only one reason to ignore.
I praise God he did not ignore me when I fought to be open minded
Eternally Grateful
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How do I know?
1. The written word
2. I have seen him change people I have known
3. I have seen him rok in my life and other peoples lives
4. I have experienced his love, and continue to experience it every day..
do what?
Well I would not know this unless I read it in his written word..
Because I have the written word. and I can test each spirit. to know if it is from God or someone is making it up
lol.. I know many who said they are born again, But they show no fruit.
just because born again does not mean a thing
Yes what does it mean, this term is not in the bible.
I was born again.. Of the spirit. Me. I am no longer dead in trespasses and sin, I was made alive ion Christ.
God said if I trust him and call out to him, I will be saved
Thats the only way to heaven
I am alive in christ.
No, You do not post biblical truth. I do not know honestly where you get your information from. Your the only on in my 40 years of christian ministry I have ever heard say some of the things you do.
Yes, he has testified with my spirit.
No. He testified if we have been saved.. If we are not reconciled yet. The spirit will nto testify to us we are his.
Not sure what you have tried to do. You have helped to contuse me.. Thats about it
I AM BORN AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
See above
Well I have never said this is the only reason I know God.. so there you go assuming again
Help me understand what? Things that are not true?
Like I said, You have to know God first before you can focus on him. That comment still stands
Eternally Grateful
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God did not rape that 13 y/o The man did
If your praising God for raping that 13 y/o. Then you can see why many people HATE and despise calvinsim..
Ritajanice
Born-Again
The written word does not make our spirit Born Again...that can only be done by Gods Living witness the Holy Spirit when Spirit gives birth to spirit...
You can only know God via His Spirit..when he makes our spirit Born Again...we need the Spirit to testify that truth to our hearts/ spirit.....it’s called heart revelation.
Only Gods Living witness can bring us to know God’s truth, he does that by making our spirit Born Again....backed up by Gods written word.
The written word needs to be backed up by Gods witness His Living Holy Spirit .
| Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. New Living Translation For his Spirit joins with our spirit to affirm that we are God’s children. English Standard Version The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, Berean Standard Bible The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. Berean Literal Bible The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, King James Bible The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God |
Whose fruit do we bear?...it takes time to bear Jesus fruit...the Spirit works in our hearts to produce the fruit of Jesus, you don’t believe you could possibly do that do you @Eternally Grateful ?
Of course Born Again is in the Bible, Gods Witness the Living Holy Spirit is the only one who can back up the written word....the written word does not I repeat not make your spirit Born Again.
www.kingjamesbibleonline.org › John-3-7John 3:7. “Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.” King James Version (KJV).
The only way to heaven is to be Born Of The Spirit, you aren’t saved @Eternally Grateful not until one is Born Again..so you post an un- truth.
Your spirit needs to be Alive in Christ my friend...it’s our spirit that is brought from death to life...that’s why it’s imperative that we are Born Of The Spirit...we aren’t Born Of The Bible.
Show me where I don’t post biblical truth my friend?
Show me where that is biblical?..what you say?
It’s not me confusing you, please don’t play that card.
You can only know God via his witness His Living Holy Spirit...sorry if it upsets..but, we must know God’s truth..not your truth.
Well my friend, if that’s your understanding of being Born Of The Spirit..no problem, that is your belief.
No way could I or did I read any Bible to know God’s truth.
We are Born Of The Spirit, just like Jesus explains to Nicodemus.
He chose to reveal His truth to me via His Spirit...only the Spirit can testify Gods truth to my heart/ spirit...and he did, as I was chosen and predestined to become Born Again.
Mind blowing!!!
My opinion/ testimony and belief...which differs “ greatly “ from yours.
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Eternally Grateful
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@Ritajanice Here let me help
In John 3. Jesus said we must be born again
He then told us how - By looking to the cross in faith.. whoever does this will never die, but has life.
Peter says we are born again by purifying our souls with the word in faith and obedience.
22 Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart, 23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever,
It also says YOU have been born again, not your spirit
Paul tells us we who were dead were made alive
Eph 2: 2 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins,
Eph 2: 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.
Notice again, It is By Grace through faith, And it is not our spirit that was made alive, It ways WE were made alive
Jesus once again in John 5 makes it clear. We are made alive, because we hear his word and believe
John 5: 24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
Once again, Learn who God is, and what it means to be born again.. You can not approach God or help others until you know yourself.
In John 3. Jesus said we must be born again
He then told us how - By looking to the cross in faith.. whoever does this will never die, but has life.
Peter says we are born again by purifying our souls with the word in faith and obedience.
22 Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart, 23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever,
It also says YOU have been born again, not your spirit
Paul tells us we who were dead were made alive
Eph 2: 2 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins,
Eph 2: 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.
Notice again, It is By Grace through faith, And it is not our spirit that was made alive, It ways WE were made alive
Jesus once again in John 5 makes it clear. We are made alive, because we hear his word and believe
John 5: 24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
Once again, Learn who God is, and what it means to be born again.. You can not approach God or help others until you know yourself.
Eternally Grateful
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lol.. The written word IS GODS HOLY WORD.
Until you realise this. You will continue to fail to comprehend Gods word..
Sorry, I do not see anywhere in this passage where it says the spirit gives birth to spirit.
I have no idea what your talking about here. I have never said or insinuated I could do anything on my own.
yes it is. But not the way you preach it.
I never said otherwise. Its not me posting an untruth. it is you having sa closed mind so you can not hear what I am saying.
I need to be alive. I am alive, I was born again.
Almost every post you post about being born again is in error.
Yes, and how he explained it to nicodemus.. By grace through faith
Whatever was revealed to you was not from God.
yes, it is mind blowing that you still do not understand
because we are not on the same page
I was born again
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Faith is a gift from God..how can you look to the cross in Faith, whose faith ?..your faith?
So I ask again how can you look to the cross and believe that Jesus died on that cross?
Where do you need to know that?
We have been Born Again of imperishable seed..whose seed have you been Born Again of and where has that
I ask you again what in you has been made Alive?
So if it’s not our spirit that is made Alive @Eternally Grateful ..
Then you deny the word of God.
Born of the Spirit..so what are you saying is Alive in you?
Is Christ saying, as you are suggesting, that we must become a child again to enter the kingdom of heaven? Or is Christ saying for us to enter the kingdom of heaven we must become dependent upon Him as these children demonstrate when turning to Him?
Rella ~ I am a woman
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Congratulations Ritajanice
You single-handedly have me doubting if through my spirit I am born again or not.
YOU say we need the Spirit to testify that truth to our spirit.
Until this morning I would have shouted from the rooftops that I too am alive in christ.
Until this morning I would have shouted from the rooftops that I call out to God, and through the blood of Jesus I will be saved
Until this morning I would have shouted from the rooftops I am born again.
I never had your conversion experience. I never heard anyone that did.
You were chosen and predestined to become Born Again.
Evidently I was not therefore I am not?????????
I guess I should change my signature.
You single-handedly have me doubting if through my spirit I am born again or not.
YOU say we need the Spirit to testify that truth to our spirit.
Until this morning I would have shouted from the rooftops that I too am alive in christ.
Until this morning I would have shouted from the rooftops that I call out to God, and through the blood of Jesus I will be saved
Until this morning I would have shouted from the rooftops I am born again.
I never had your conversion experience. I never heard anyone that did.
You were chosen and predestined to become Born Again.
Evidently I was not therefore I am not?????????
I guess I should change my signature.
Isn't every man born naturally, or of a natural human nature? Yet, does not Scripture tell us natural man must be born again supernaturally?
Ritajanice
Born-Again
It’s His written word.
We are Born Of The Spirit...what in us is Born Of The Spirit?
Until you understand that you need to be Born Again by Gods Living Witness His Holy Spirit...when Spirit gives birth to spirit.
You will continue to post un- truths and I will pick you up on your un- truths.
Then you need to recheck.Flesh gives birth to flesh.
Spirit gives birth to spirit..which means what?
Prove my teaching wrong then, as of yet you haven’t.
What you are saying, my mind is completely closed to that,yes, I can only hear God’s witness witnessing Gods truth to my heart/ spirit.
What in you is Alive then?...how do you know that you are Alive in Christ...the written word does not make you Alive in Christ.....who does?...the written word or Gods Living witness His Holy Spirit?
Prove it then?
Gods witness the Living Holy Spirit can only witness Gods truth to our heart/ spirit.
Faith is a gift from God...I ask again how can your own faith believe in Jesus..?
How do you know that Jesus even existed?...just by human faith...?
I am not on your page and your teaching...correct.
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Ritajanice
Born-Again
Never mind me...what does Gods word say...we must be Born Again..Born Of The Spirit?
Spirit gives birth to spirit....not my word my lovely ,Gods word.
So if you doubt please don’t blame me..I post Gods truth..not my truth.
So tell me @Rella ~ I am a woman ....how are we Born Of The Spirit, if not by Gods Living Witness the Living Holy Spirit....do you think the Written word made your spirit Born Again, just by reading the written word?
What is Born Again our intellect or our spirit?
God has already given us the answer in his written word, which is backed up by Gods Living Witness His Holy Spirit.
What did Jesus say to Nicodemus about the wind?...do you limit Gods power?...to your own human understanding?
Don’t put words into my mouth..I never said you aren’t Born Again.
I post Gods word..now please show me where I don’t?..thank you.
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Ritajanice
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Eternally Grateful
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The fact I can even have faith to look to the cross is a gift from God
But I must either believe or not believe.. God will nto do that for me
How? How does anyone do it? They repent after being led by God and hearing the word.. But they have to chose. just like the poeple of Israel did when Moses lifted the serpent (a type of Christ)
Once again, I have no idea what you are asking, know what?
Imperishable seed.. The cross and everything that is in it.
God made me alive by forgiving me all sin.. Its called justification.. Its sad you do not understand this
I AM MADE ALIVE!!!!!
No. I recieve the word of God. You do not even think the word is enough.. so talk about contradiction!!
I AM ALIVE!!
if you do not understand this, how can anyone think you understand the word of God?
Thank you Ritajanice, hope to be spending more time back on the boards.
Eternally Grateful
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Yes, its in his written word
I am done with your mind games..
I was born again, when I repented, got on my knees and cried out for Gods mercy.
As Jesus said. that person went home justified
All your doing is exposing yourself. Keep it up..
Yes. My mother (flesh) gave birth to my flesh
This is not in the word of God.
I was born of flesh, by my mother. I must be reborn of spirit (born again) if I want to receive eternal life.
well in your mind your right.. That does not make it so
But your not hearing from God. God would not make up the stuff you say
I AM ALIVE
PAUL SAID I AM ALIVE
PETER SAID I AM ALIVE
JESUS SAID I AM ALIVE
Your looking for some magic potion or something that is not there
I would not know i am alive if not for the written word.
Sadly. nothing will prove anything to you. I prove it every time you post and I counterpost.
God is not going to have faith for me..
How can you say your saved by grace through faith, when you do not even understand what faith is.
Jesus said it best. whoever BELIEVES is not condemned.
Whoever does nto believe is condemned already
WHoever is in a state of unbelief is dead. they must be born again
How are they born again?
John 3:
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should [c]not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
yawn, Do you make this stuff up or what
Ritajanice
Born-Again
I ask again how do you know that Jesus died on that cross?
Where do you understand the cross..only in the written word?
You need to understand the cross somewhere else my friend?
I ask again...how can you believe that Jesus died on the cross?...just by reading the written word?
That is not how God says we are Born Again...those are your words, non biblical..
We are Born Again of imperishable seed that liveth and abideth forever?
Where does that seed liveth and abideth forever?
The cross?
Not biblical...God makes our spirit Alive in Christ...when we become Born Again of imperishable/ incorruptible seed..looking to the cross does not make us Born Again?
I ask again, what in you has come to life?
You need God’s Living witness His Holy Spirit, to back up the written word?
Not biblical....just confusion.
You must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God.
Your spirit must be Born Again?
Matthew 18
King James Version
18 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
That does not say children are automatically saved-- it is comparing the faith required of us like the faith children have!
Ritajanice
Born-Again
God written word is backed up by Gods Living witness His Holy Spirit...the Written word is meaningless without God’s witness His Living Holy Spirit.
That is not how God says we are Born Again..he makes it very clear in his written word how we are Born Of The Spirit...backed up by His Living witness the Holy Spirit.
Once again confusion and not biblical.
We must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God....
Then prove it please?
Again a magic potion is not biblical.
Where are you Alive?
Wow!...so the written word made your spirit alive.that is an un - truth and Gods witness backs up your un- truth...you do not need to read a Bible to be Born Of The Spirit.
I ask again..how can your own human faith understand that you have been Born Again in your spirit?
Faith is a gift from God a manifestation of the Spirit? Which means what..?...where does Gods faith manifest itself?
If one believes then they must be Born Again.
That is not how God says we are Born Again, Jesus already explained in the first part when speaking with Nicodemus..that is how we are Born Of The Spirit...that is the Living Spirit who is everywhere and he witnesses Gods truth to our hearts/ spirit when he makes our spirit supernaturally / spiritually Born Again.
Then prove it please using scripture...not your opinions.
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