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Please show me what I post doesn’t line up with scripture.

Instead of just voicing your own personal opinion..thank you.

Very much looking forward to you pointing out my errors.
I already have, and you are very quick to forget-you don't have a בְּשׂוֹרָה (besorah) or עֵבֶר (evangelion) since you reject it as having the כֹּחַ (koach) of YHVH to save anyone.

Ki lo evosh mi-besorat ha-Mashiach, shehi koach Elohim liyeshu'ah lekhol ha-ma'amin.
כי אינני בוש מבשורת המשיח אשר גבורת אלהים היא לתשועה לכל־המאמין ליהודי ראשונה וגם־ליוני׃

For I am not ashamed of the Besuras HaGeulah. It is the ko'ach of Hashem for the Geulah deliverance [IYOV 19:25; YESHAYAH 43:1], to all who have emunah, to the Yehudi (the Jew) above all, but also the Yevani (Greek).
 
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I already have, and you are very quick to forget-you don't have a בְּשׂוֹרָה (besorah) or עֵבֶר (evangelion) since you reject it as having the כֹּחַ (koach) of YHVH to save anyone.

15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God

Ki lo evosh mi-besorat ha-Mashiach, shehi koach Elohim liyeshu'ah lekhol ha-ma'amin.
כי אינני בוש מבשורת המשיח אשר גבורת אלהים היא לתשועה לכל־המאמין ליהודי ראשונה וגם־ליוני׃

For I am not ashamed of the Besuras HaGeulah. It is the ko'ach of Hashem for the Geulah deliverance [IYOV 19:25; YESHAYAH 43:1], to all who have emunah, to the Yehudi (the Jew) above all, but also the Yevani (Greek).
Posting scripture and text my friend doesn’t make one’s spirit Born Again....are you a Christian or are you Born Again....have you had the Spirit testifying with your spirit that you are Gods child?

How do you know that what you post is Gods truth?

We can all post text and scripture my lovely...that doesn’t mean one’s spirit has been Born Again now does it?

How do you know that Jesus hung on a cross, by reading scripture of course, now where else do you need to know that my lovely?

Can you explain what this scripture is saying?

Now what do you think Jesus meant when he explained to Nicodemus that you must be “Born Again “ @Johann ?

What in us needs to be Born Again?...Born Of God’s seed?

John 3:3-8​

King James Version​

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Romans 8​

King James Version​

8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 
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correct-she is adding to scriptures, not being familiar with scriptures.




Ephesians 2:1-5 (Textus Receptus)
1 Καὶ ὑμᾶς ὄντας νεκροὺς τοῖς παραπτώμασιν καὶ ταῖς ἁμαρτίαις 2 ἐν αἷς ποτε περιεπατήσατε κατὰ τὸν αἰῶνα τοῦ κόσμου τούτου, κατὰ τὸν ἄρχοντα τῆς ἐξουσίας τοῦ ἀέρος, τοῦ νῦν ἐνεργοῦντος ἐν τοῖς υἱοῖς τῆς ἀπειθείας· 3 ἐν οἷς καὶ ἡμεῖς πάντες ἀνεστράφημέν ποτε ἐν ταῖς ἐπιθυμίαις τῆς σαρκὸς ἡμῶν, ποιοῦντες τὰ θελήματα τῆς σαρκὸς καὶ τῶν διανοιῶν, καὶ ἦμεν τέκνα φύσει ὀργῆς ὡς καὶ οἱ λοιποί· 4 ὁ δὲ θεὸς πλούσιος ὢν ἐν ἐλέει, διὰ τὴν πολλὴν ἀγάπην αὐτοῦ ἣν ἠγάπησεν ἡμᾶς, 5 καὶ ὄντας ἡμᾶς νεκροὺς τοῖς παραπτώμασιν συνεζωοποίησεν τῷ Χριστῷ,—χάριτί ἐστε σεσῳσμένοι—

Grammatical Analysis (KJV-Lexamus):
Verbs and Tenses:

"ὄντας" (being): This is a present active participle, indicating the state of being "dead" (νεκροὺς) in trespasses and sins.
"περιεπατήσατε" (ye walked): This is an aorist active indicative verb, describing a past action of walking or living according to worldly standards.
"ἠγάπησεν" (he loved): This is an aorist active indicative verb, indicating a past action of God's love toward us.
Nouns and Adjectives:

"παραπτώματα" (trespasses): This is a plural accusative noun, referring to specific acts of wrongdoing or moral failures.
"ταῖς ἁμαρτίαις" (sins): This is a plural dative noun, referring to the general condition of sinfulness.
Prepositions and Conjunctions:

"ἐν" (in): This preposition denotes the sphere or realm in which believers were dead in trespasses and sins.
"κατὰ" (according to): This preposition is used with the accusative case to indicate the manner or standard according to which people once walked.
Theological Insights:
Spiritual Condition: The grammatical structure of the passage emphasizes humanity's prior state of spiritual death and bondage to sin before God's intervention through Christ.

God's Initiative: The use of aorist tense verbs underscores God's decisive actions in history—His love, grace, and the transformative work of making believers alive in Christ (verse 5).

Salvation by Grace: The passage highlights salvation as entirely God's work, accomplished through His mercy and love, not by human effort or merit (verse 4).

So by examining the specific grammatical elements—verbs, nouns, prepositions—in Ephesians 2:1-5 based on the KJV-Lexamus (Textus Receptus), we gain a deeper understanding of Paul's theological teaching on the human condition, God's grace, and the transformative power of Christ's salvation as understood in this textual tradition. These insights align with biblical teachings and emphasize the centrality of Christ in the believer's new life and identity.

J.
You post a lot of text and scripture....that doesn’t mean that one has been Born Of The Spirit..

That is a live spirit birth...now would you say that isn’t biblical?

15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God

Here is Gods word in full context.

Romans 8

King James Version

8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 

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I’m not confused about how i was Born Again...

I’ve asked you questions on the subject matter, I’m still waiting for some answers and good discussion in the Spirit.

I posted my questions very early this morning by quoting your posts to me,..still awaiting their replies..my last post to you, you answered none of those questions...

Can you please answer my questions that I asked of you please, thank you?
lol.. The same questions you have asked over and over, and the same questions I have answered numerous times?

No. I am not playing this game anymore.

and PS. I did not ask you if you were confused how YOU think you were born again

i asked how you were so confused about how ANYONE was born again.

can you answer?
 

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Can you please tell me how you know God?

Do you only know him by reading his word?

Can you please tell me how you trust God, how would you know that he truly exists?

Do you have Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit..indwelling your heart/ spirit?

Are you Born Of The Spirit?

We’ve been called to test the spirits?

How would you know how to acknowledge God?

Is God Spirit?

Or is God the written word?

, and he gave us the way..

What way is that?

Just by reading the written word?

You need to know God in your spirit, if you don’t then we aren’t Born Of The Spirit?

You only know him as a Christian and not a Born Again..big difference.
answered time and time again.

It will not help you..
 

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lol.. The same questions you have asked over and over, and the same questions I have answered numerous times?

No. I am not playing this game anymore.

and PS. I did not ask you if you were confused how YOU think you were born again

i asked how you were so confused about how ANYONE was born again.
I asked you how did you know you are Alive in Christ and still no answer.
can you answer?
You have answered none of those questions that I asked you early this morning..
 

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I claimed one does not need to read a Bible to be Born Of The Spirit.

I also claimed that the Holy Spirit leads me through the written word and brings the written word to my understanding in my spirit.

I did not say “ I” claimed to know the written word...I said that I was led through the written word by the Holy Spirit.
this is your problem.. right there

You do not know the written word. that is obvious (or you do not know it word by word. but do not understand what the words say
 

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It says
“ you “were once spiritually dead.

Are you saying we weren’t spiritually dead and alienated from God’s Spirit?

That’s why our spirit needs to be Born Again by Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit?

We need to be Born Of God’s seed...His Living seed...that liveth and abideth forever...where? in our hearts/ spirit that’s where.
so wait a minute, you now agree, it says WE (you) were dead. And not our spirit??
 

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15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God


Posting scripture and text my friend doesn’t make one’s spirit Born Again....are you a Christian or are you Born Again....have you had the Spirit testifying with your spirit that you are Gods child?

How do you know that what you post is Gods truth?

We can all post text and scripture my lovely...that doesn’t mean one’s spirit has been Born Again now does it?

How do you know that Jesus hung on a cross, by reading scripture of course, now where else do you need to know that my lovely?

Can you explain what this scripture is saying?

Now what do you think Jesus meant when he explained to Nicodemus that you must be “Born Again “ @Johann ?

What in us needs to be Born Again?...Born Of God’s seed?

John 3:3-8​

King James Version​

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Romans 8​

King James Version​

8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
I'm sorry, but your opinions sound unfamiliar to me and don't influence my Lev, where it truly counts.
 

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this is your problem.. right there

You do not know the written word. that is obvious (or you do not know it word by word. but do not understand what the words say
Instead of voicing your opinions..show me that I don’t understand the word?

Do you understand everything that is written in Gods word?

Apparently you don’t because you still haven’t answered my Spirit questions that I asked you early this morning?
 

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Maybe it’s a bad translation because you don’t understand spiritual death.

We need to be Born Of The Spirit..which means what?

Born of Gods seed..I noticed you seemed to dismiss this?
here we go again

Its not in the bible. because you do not understand

You can;t make this stuff up
 

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if the word Pneuma (spirit) is not in the origional greek

it is not in the bible, and it is added, making it a bad translation.
We are Born Of The Spirit my friend, that is Gods word...you don’t need any text my friend or scripture to be Born Again, Born Of imperishable seed..

Just as Jesus explains to Nicodemus we must be Born Again.

We are Born from above.

Spirit gives birth to spirit...all in God’s word my friend.