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[Eternally Grateful]

I have answered your other post and explained everything there.

Unfortunately from what I read here, you are trying to figure out how Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit made my spirit Born Again.

And here you go again.

You outright lied and claimed I said I see a flaw in your testimony. When I said i saw a flaw in your truth or doctrine.

here is proof

Here you go again, you see a flaw in my testimony...

because I said

Maybe because I see a flaw in your truth and am trying to help?

And once again, You refuse to acknowledge your error. and just totally ignore the proof as if it is not even there.

How can I or anyone else even trust a person who will never humble herself to admit that she made a mistake?

Until you start to humble yourself and show some semblance of true humility. Nothing else you say matters.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You have a soft spot for Rita, okay, but this doesn't help her or her lack of understanding.
Should I charge by the hour ;)

Thats because rita is a calvinist, they are united. they must defend each other.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

.after all its just words on a page right?

F2F

Nailed it!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

@Eternally Grateful denied that Spirit gives birth to spirit....yet God says ,but spirit is Born Of Spirit they mean the same thing.

Thats because the bible does not say this

the real bible says this

that which is born of flesh is flesh

that which is born of spirit is spirit.

I take the word as true and honest.

You just claimed you do not even need to study the word.. There is your issue.. Why study the word when you think you know it all already?

The pharisees knew the word by heart. yet they did not KNOW the word at all. if they did, they would never have crucified Christ.

don;t be a pharisee, Be like the berean's

 

[Ritajanice]

And here you go again.

You outright lied and claimed I said I see a flaw in your testimony. When I said i saw a flaw in your truth or doctrine.

here is proof

Did you, well I stand corrected.if you said you saw a flaw in my doctrine I thought you said testimony @Eternally Grateful...therefore apologies my friend.

I’m not here to fight you...just to discuss the subject matter that is all.

because I said


And once again, You refuse to acknowledge your error. and just totally ignore the proof as if it is not even there.

How can I or anyone else even trust a person who will never humble herself to admit that she made a mistake?

Until you start to humble yourself and show some semblance of true humility. Nothing else you say matters.

Can we please discuss the subject in hand.

Please answer my posts that I previously addressed to you?

Thank you.

 

[Ritajanice]

Thats because the bible does not say this

the real bible says this

that which is born of flesh is flesh

that which is born of spirit is spirit.

I’ve already posted said scripture and now you are denying Gods word.

I take the word as true and honest.

You just claimed you do not even need to study the word.. There is your issue.. Why study the word when you think you know it all already?

I said I am led through scripture by the Holy Spirit.

I’m Born Again..the Spirit is the witness of Gods word through me, I know nothing without the Spirit leading me through scripture bringing the word to my understanding in my spirit.

He teaches my spirit the word..not my human intellect.

The pharisees knew the word by heart. yet they did not KNOW the word at all. if they did, they would never have crucified Christ.

don;t be a pharisee, Be like the berean's

The Pharisees have got nothing to do with my spirit being Born Of Gods seed.thank you very much.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You have just contradicted Gods word..he said we were spiritually dead, now your saying of our person is separated from God.


Not Biblical.

Our spirit was dead, not our person, that is why we need to be Born Of The Spirit.

Not as you have said on previous posts...” Born Again Of Me” that too isn’t biblical.

Ephesians 2:1-10​

1 In the past you were spiritually dead because of your disobedience and sins. 1

Wow. just wow.

2 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins,

does it say my spirit was dead? Does it say my spirit was made alive?

NO!!

It says I Was Dead, And I was made alive

I am a person. body soul and spirit..

Ephesians 2:5

even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),

Does it say our spirit was dead? Does it say he made our spirit alive?

NO, It says WE were dead. WE were made alive


1 Corinthians 15:22

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.

Does it say the spirit was dead, or the spirit will be made alive? No. it says all. Individuals.

Colossians 2:13
And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,

Does this say my spirit was dead, and my spirit was made alive, because he forgave my spirit of all of its tresspasses?

NO!! It says YOU, It is speaking to me, individually. and you. Not your spirit. the word spirit is no where to be found


You need to stop thinking you know the word and start reading it..

 

[Scott Downey]

Because the [c]carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.​

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What Is Enmity? - Biblical Meaning, Defintion, and Importance

God put enmity, perpetual opposition or enemies inherently at odds,between the serpent and the woman in the Garden of Eden, between its offspring and hers. Learn the biblical meaning and definition of enmity and the importance for what it means for us today.

www.christianity.com

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Enmity against God is what people have when they are not born again​

Enmity Definition​

Enmity can be essentially described as inherent opposition or strife between two entities. As defined by vocabulary.com,

Enmity means intense hostility and comes from the same Latin root as enemy, and means the state of being an enemy. If you have always hated someone, you have a history of enmity with that person. Enmity is stronger than antagonism or animosity, which implies competitive feeling but doesn't go all the way to enemy status. Hopefully, you are a peacemaker and don't experience too much enmity in your life.

As defined by Dictionary.com:

Enmity is a feeling or condition of hostility; hatred; ill will; animosity; antagonism.

According to the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia,

"Enmity" (hate) occurs as the translation of 'ebhah in Genesis 3:15, "I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed," and in Numbers 35:21,22, where the absence of enmity on the part of the man-slayer modifies the judgment to be passed on him.

 

[Ritajanice]

Wow. just wow.

2 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins,

does it say my spirit was dead? Does it say my spirit was made alive?

NO!!

He made us Alive who were once spiritually dead, by bringing our spirit Alive in Christ...by becoming Born Of The Spirit

Tell me what in you needs to be Alive to know that Jesus truly existed?

How did he make you Alive?

Just by the written word?

It says I Was Dead, And I was made alive

I am a person. body soul and spirit..

Your spirit must me made Alive.

How do you know you are Alive in Christ.

Just by reading the written word?

You need God’s witness His Living Holy Spirit to make your spirit Born Again, then the written word backs up what the Living Holy Spirit witnesses to our spirit.

Do you understand that?

We need that Living spiritual birth?

Ephesians 2:5

even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),

Does it say our spirit was dead? Does it say he made our spirit alive?

NO, It says WE were dead. WE were made alive

Then tell me what did he make Alive in you?

1 Corinthians 15:22

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.

Exactly, so I ask again what in you needs to be brought from death to Life?

Does it say the spirit was dead, or the spirit will be made alive? No. it says all. Individuals.

Colossians 2:13
And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,

Does this say my spirit was dead, and my spirit was made alive, because he forgave my spirit of all of its tresspasses?

NO!! It says YOU, It is speaking to me, individually. and you. Not your spirit. the word spirit is no where to be found


You need to stop thinking you know the word and start reading it..

I ask you again...you are posting snippets of scripture...which is the written word.

So I ask again how do you know that Jesus was who he says he was?

Who witnesses Jesus truth to your spirit/ heart?

It sounds to me like you are understanding the written word in your own spirit./ your own human intellect and understanding....and not by Gods Living witness His Holy Spirit ...witnessing these truths to your heart/spirit.

Do you know the Spirit of God in your heart/ spirit?

Or do you only know God through His written word?

If you know God in your spirit please explain how you came to know all about God / Jesus?

Or was it just by reading the written word?

That’s all I’m asking my friend.

Are you able to answer my previous questions that I asked you on my other posts addressed to you from me?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Did you, well I stand corrected.if you said you saw a flaw in my doctrine I thought you said testimony @Eternally Grateful...therefore apologies my friend.

Accepted and thank you

I’m not here to fight you...just to discuss the subject matter that is all.

Can we please discuss the subject in hand.

Please answer my posts that I previously addressed to you?

Thank you.

I have..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I’ve already posted said scripture and now you are denying Gods word.

And I just posted that scripture.

So who is denying Gods word?

I said I am led through scripture by the Holy Spirit.

Are you?

Anyone can say this, it does not make it true.

I’m Born Again..the Spirit is the witness of Gods word through me, I know nothing without the Spirit leading me through scripture bringing the word to my understanding in my spirit.

Then why are you so confused about how one is saved? (born again)

He teaches my spirit the word..not my human intellect.

Again, Are yuo sure, it is God and not your own human intellect?

The Pharisees have got nothing to do with my spirit being Born Of Gods seed.thank you very much.

No. But you make the same mistakes.. You claim you know the word.. yet do you?

 

[Ritajanice]

And I just posted that scripture.

So who is denying Gods word?

Are you?

Anyone can say this, it does not make it true.

Then why are you so confused about how one is saved? (born again)

I’m not confused about how i was Born Again...

I’ve asked you questions on the subject matter, I’m still waiting for some answers and good discussion in the Spirit.

I posted my questions very early this morning by quoting your posts to me,..still awaiting their replies..my last post to you, you answered none of those questions...

Again, Are yuo sure, it is God and not your own human intellect?

No. But you make the same mistakes.. You claim you know the word.. yet do you?

Can you please answer my questions that I asked of you please, thank you?

 

[Ritajanice]

Accepted and thank you

I have..

Accepted and thank you

I have..

You have answered none of my previous posts that I posted earlier this morning?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Because the [c]carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.​

​

What Is Enmity? - Biblical Meaning, Defintion, and Importance

God put enmity, perpetual opposition or enemies inherently at odds,between the serpent and the woman in the Garden of Eden, between its offspring and hers. Learn the biblical meaning and definition of enmity and the importance for what it means for us today.

www.christianity.com

​

Enmity against God is what people have when they are not born again​

Enmity Definition​

Enmity can be essentially described as inherent opposition or strife between two entities. As defined by vocabulary.com,


As defined by Dictionary.com:


According to the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia,

"Enmity" (hate) occurs as the translation of 'ebhah in Genesis 3:15, "I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed," and in Numbers 35:21,22, where the absence of enmity on the part of the man-slayer modifies the judgment to be passed on him.

Yes, they have enmity

That's because they are separated from God. hence, since that relationship was broken, and since God created us to be served by him, there is a hole left in each and every person. and they spend their whole life trying to fill that hole (sin) to no avail. and in turn, this enmity of trying to serve self and their love of sin, and refusal to acknowledge God (Romans 1) has caused an enmity

The amazing this is God loves his creation, he did not create us to suffer, he created us to serve him and more importantly serve us (as Jesus showed when he walked the earth)

So God sent his son. Not to judge the world. but that the world may (have a chance) to be saved.

God made a way to break that enmity. But he demand we receive this, by repenting and coming to trust him, and he gave us the way..

 

[Ritajanice]

God made a way to break that enmity. But he demand we receive this, by repenting and coming to trust him, and he gave us the way..

Can you please tell me how you know God?

Do you only know him by reading his word?

Can you please tell me how you trust God, how would you know that he truly exists?

Do you have Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit..indwelling your heart/ spirit?

Are you Born Of The Spirit?

We’ve been called to test the spirits?

How would you know how to acknowledge God?

Is God Spirit?

Or is God the written word?

, and he gave us the way..

What way is that?

Just by reading the written word?

You need to know God in your spirit, if you don’t then we aren’t Born Of The Spirit?

You only know him as a Christian and not a Born Again..big difference.

 

[Ritajanice]

Thats because rita is a calvinist, they are united. they must defend each other.

Why not address all of my “ spiritual “ questions that I have asked of you?

 

[ChristisGod]

nowhere in the Bible does it ever say man is "spiritually " dead. That is a misnomer. :)

 

[Ritajanice]

No. But you make the same mistakes.. You claim you know the word.. yet do you?

I claimed one does not need to read a Bible to be Born Of The Spirit.

I also claimed that the Holy Spirit leads me through the written word and brings the written word to my understanding in my spirit.

I did not say “ I” claimed to know the written word...I said that I was led through the written word by the Holy Spirit.

 

[Ritajanice]

nowhere in the Bible does it ever say man is "spiritually " dead. That is a misnomer. :)

Ephesians 2:1-10​

1 In the past you were spiritually dead because of your disobedience and sins. 1

That is why we need to be Born Of The Spirit..

Born of Gods seed....His Living seed.

Gods Spirit births our spirit into His.

Flesh gives birth to flesh.

Spirit gives birth to spirit.

That is the Living spiritual birth that we all need, to see the Kingdom Of God.

Just as his word says.

You can read it in the written word, but one must receive that vital ingredient...Born Again in our spirit by Gods Living witness His Living Holy Spirit.

 

[ChristisGod]

Ephesians 2:1-10​

1 In the past you were spiritually dead because of your disobedience and sins. 1

That is why we need to be Born Of The Spirit..

Born of Gods seed....His Living seed.

Gods Spirit births our spirit into His.

Flesh gives birth to flesh.

Spirit gives birth to spirit.

That is the Living spiritual birth that we all need, to see the Kingdom Of God.

Just as his word says.

You can read it in the written word, but one must receive that vital ingredient...Born Again in our spirit by Gods Living witness His Living Holy Spirit.

that does not say man is "spiritually " dead.