Eternally Grateful
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I rest my case.Holy Spirit must enter in before this happens.
This is not just foolish, this Makes God Look bad. And his justice means nothing.. He raises people from the dead while still in sinThe things of God are foolishness to everyone. Unless or until the Holy Spirit enters in and leads them to understand the things of God.
Of course. But he does not have to come in to do this. Jesus helped people. He did not have to come in them. I am amazed at to how powerless people think God is he can;t influence them without going into them.. Is God that weak?Holy Spirit lends that ability to trust. We in and of ourselves do not choose to trust.
yesTrue. We cannot return to God his free irrevocable Salvation gift
Not this one. I am talking about those who are saying stuff about me which is not trueThey are always part of this type conversation.
John 3 would be a great place to start. Our new birth is not given UNTIL we trust God..Really? Please post the scripture where Jesus, Yeshua, said our will is a catalyst in our Salvation.
But it’s not the only one.
I think it goes both waysIn truth most here who posit as enemies of Calvinism don't know what they're talking about.
Same can be said of the calvinist. Which is my point.. Repeat your whole paragraph and insert calvin where the word arminian is,, And it is just as trueSupposed proponents of Armenians are like unto those anti-Calvinist bunch.
It gets old because it's the same ones who stoke Animus. And they're obviously Trolling because after months,even years, of that nonsense they prove they don't care to learn anything.
They just regurgitate the same ridiculous vitriol against what is their true target that they cloak in the accusation of "Calvinism". And that is the Gospel itself.
So do calvinists.Their point is to disrespect Jesus,Yeshua and The Gospel.
I would agree with them But only in this area. Again, thats why I hate the debate. A calvinist must defend calvinism at all costs. As an arminian does.. So neither one can hear a word someone says when it goes against them, They read from their calvinist or arminian view.The lie they use to cloak that is in claiming to object to Calvinist Tenets.
Because if cowardly Trolls dared say outright, the gospel is buxxxxxx! They'd be banned immediately.
Instead they insist The actual Gospel as taught by many here is Calvinism. And they,as we read repeatedly, insist we "Calvinists" are blind to the falsehood we defend.
Its not about them, Its about you..It keeps them aboard because that's their sneaky way of saying The actual Gospel is false.