Mark of the Beast and salvation
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Timtofly
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Would you prefer not to see a literal expiration date on goods you purchase?
Of course it is literal. It will never be removed, even in the LOF.
Are you literally saved? Or just figuratively?
These people with the mark will be literally removed from the Lamb's book of life, and never added back into the Book. It is as permanent as being saved.
It’s like you’re not even reading what I post. I’m not disputing that who ever takes the mark can still be saved I’m disputing what the mark is.
If it’s literal then it contradicts John 3:16 if it’s symbolic (like the mark on the foreheads in Ezekiel chapter 9)for unrepentant devotion to the beast and doing his will then it doesn’t contradict John 3:16
David in NJ
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No where in Scripture does God allow for those who take the Mark to be forgiven/saved.
And a third angel followed them, calling out in a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image, and receives its mark on his forehead or on his hand, he too will drink the wine of God’s anger, poured undiluted into the cup of His wrath. And he will be tormented in fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment rises forever and ever. Day and night there is no rest for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.”
Revelation 14:9-11
If you add your words upon God's words you are calling God a liar = Revelation 22:18
"I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and the holy city, which are described in this book."
And you just like Timothy it seams that you guys don’t even read my post.
Once again I’m not saying that whoever has the mark can still be saved or forgiven they can’t. I’m not disputing that I’m disputing what the mark actually is
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David in NJ
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Pray to the Lord for understanding.
The actual physical Mark has been in the making for many years now.
The world has steadily and consistently been conditioned for receiving the Mark.
CLUE: "No one can buy or sell unless they receive the Mark"
Peace and Good Night
Timtofly
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The mark is as literal as sheol. Do you claim that if sheol is literal that contradicts John 3:16?
The literal mark places one in a state of death prior to physical death. Just like sheol places the soul in a state of death after physical death. The mark is literal, because there is no return to a point one can be redeemed, after receiving the mark. That is the whole point. Not that a physically alive person can think about changing their mind after a symbolic gesture from God.
Chopping one's head off is literal, and there is no take backs from that point either. People don't walk around with their head symbolically chopped off.
Precious friend, A Very Warm Welcome to the Board.
There is in fact a Great Grace Departure Before the Great trib/mark of beast. Thus, we, The
Body Of Christ, are Eternally Saved, taken to Heaven for The Judgment Seat Of Christ...
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)
...while Israel and the nations, still on earth, have the choice to have faith/worship God, OR:
take the mark of the beast/worship him. Amen.
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The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly
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Grace, Peace, And JOY!…
You already have it. The mark of the beast is the fleshly nature of man, toiling on the earth, knowing no rest night or day, subject to disease and death, forever and ever until we can ascend to heaven.
David in NJ
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No Mark of the Beast on anyone - Yet.
What is on everyone is what we are ALL born with = SIN.
Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned
Romans 5:12
And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, 2in which you once walked according to the [a]course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, 3among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.
Ephesians ch2
Anyone who receives the Mark of the Beast will not be forgiven = never.
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RLT63
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To take the mark of the beast is to worship him. Can someone claim John 3:16 then worship Satan? Your premise is flawed.
No I never claimed that but someone can worship satan and then repeat and claim John 3:16
David in NJ
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David in NJ
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Once the MoB is being implimented by governments around the world, and anyone who receives the Mark has committed the unforgiveable sin.
You really need to pray and study the Scripture to understand this as well as FIRST believe what God has said in Revelation.
This is very serious = no room for error = it is the Final Rebellion against God = 2 Thessalonians chapter 2
And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
How can you tell me to pray and study scripture to understand when you just contradicted Jesus?
Matthew 12:30-32
30 “Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. 31 And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
David in NJ
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Jesus said: blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.
That is what the Mark of the Beast is all about
God promises the Days will be shortened - the governments of the world will be spared of the anti-Christ's rule.
Besides which the Lord will establish an angel, to prevent the nations from copying Israel.
RLT63
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Rev 20:4 - I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Yeshua, and for the word of God, and such as didn't worship the beast nor his image, and didn't receive the mark on their forehead and on their hand. They lived, and reigned with Messiah for the thousand years.
Nobody, except a handful of edgy teenagers, theistically worship Satan, or ever will. Worshipping Satan or the Beast doesn't mean having an altar and sacrificing goats. Nobody does this, nobody ever will, because nobody who believes in the spiritual would worship the principle of the anti-spiritual.
Worshipping the beast means to worship the flesh. It means to indulge in carnality, sex, drugs, lust for money and power. It means to worship yourself.
As long as you as a human have these lusts, you have the mark of the beast on your head (thoughts) and hand (works). You will know no rest and suffer plagues and death day and night until the end of time, through reincarnation, until you are able to leave your fleshly lusts behind.
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