Mark of the Beast and salvation

[David in NJ]

Nobody, except a handful of edgy teenagers, theistically worship Satan, or ever will. Worshipping Satan or the Beast doesn't mean having an altar and sacrificing goats. Nobody does this, nobody ever will, because nobody who believes in the spiritual would worship the principle of the anti-spiritual.

Worshipping the beast means to worship the flesh. It means to indulge in carnality, sex, drugs, lust for money and power. It means to worship yourself.

As long as you as a human have these lusts, you have the mark of the beast on your head (thoughts) and hand (works). You will know no rest and suffer plagues and death day and night until the end of time, through reincarnation, until you are able to leave your fleshly lusts behind.

You need to be brought up to date friend = they are worshipping satan at the SB half time show , at CERN, at NASA and all over the world.

New TV series going on now called 'LUCIFER' and he's the good-guy = Antichrist.

The world, right now, is clamoring for the revealing of the Antichrist = and all the more with Satan attached to it.

 

[Adam]

You need to be brought up to date friend = they are worshipping satan at the SB half time show , at CERN, at NASA and all over the world.

New TV series going on now called 'LUCIFER' and he's the good-guy = Antichrist.

The world, right now, is clamoring for the revealing of the Antichrist = and all the more with Satan attached to it.

I don't watch broadcast TV so I am completely ignorant of all this, but I maintain that these types of people don't actually worship Satan theistically, but are atheists who only do these things to offend Christians. Many of these so-called "Satanists" are really just Atheist Randians with an anti-Christian gloss of paint over their "rational selfishness" doctrine. They hate Christians because they hate their parents, basically. Wiccans see themselves as a revival of traditional celtic druidism (even though it isn't). So while these people may be childish, they don't actually theistically worship Satan, but have some other moral philosophy.

Though many people do worship Satan in fact without realizing it, through following philosophies of carnality and selfishness. Even people who worship Jesus can be guilty of this.

I don't deny that the people who pretend to worship Satan ironically, ironically, actually do worship Satan in fact; but there will never be a mainstream and formalized religion based around this because it is designed to be edgy, countercultural and offensive to the public.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

it is designed to be edgy, countercultural and offensive to the public.

Probably why, so Very few will know about them, that they do it Under The Cover of Darkness, eh?

1Co_4:5 "Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, Who both will
bring to light The HIDDEN Things of Darkness..."

 

[Marty fox]

Rev 20:4 - I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Yeshua, and for the word of God, and such as didn't worship the beast nor his image, and didn't receive the mark on their forehead and on their hand. They lived, and reigned with Messiah for the thousand years.

?????

 

[Marty fox]

Jesus said: blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.

That is what the Mark of the Beast is all about

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is spiritual not a physical mark.

 

[mailmandan]

I almost fell out of my chair in shock the first time I discovered that Seventh-day Adventists teach that the near the end of time the "mark of the best" of Revelation 14 will be placed upon those who worship on Sunday instead of Saturday.

Mark of the Beast

Bible Truth Versus SDA Doctrine - Mark of the Beast

nonsda.org

 

[Marty fox]

I almost fell out of my chair in shock the first time I discovered that Seventh-day Adventists teach that the near the end of time the "mark of the best" of Revelation 14 will be placed upon those who worship on Sunday instead of Saturday.

Mark of the Beast

Bible Truth Versus SDA Doctrine - Mark of the Beast

nonsda.org

Helloooo Jerry

 

[RLT63]

?????

This describes people who didn’t take the mark. If the events described in Revelation come to pass in our lifetime and I was wrong about the rapture or somehow missed it I will choose to die rather than take the mark. What you do is up to you.

 

[Marty fox]

This describes people who didn’t take the mark. If the events described in Revelation come to pass in our lifetime and I was wrong about the rapture or somehow missed it I will choose to die rather than take the mark. What you do is up to you.

Okay thanks but that is not what we are discussing

 

[RLT63]

Okay thanks but that is not what we are discussing

I think what happens to people who don’t take the mark gives us a pretty good idea of what happens to those who do.

 

[Marty fox]

I think what happens to people who don’t take the mark gives us a pretty good idea of what happens to those who do.

Sure they will perish but thats not the topic we were discussing were talking about what the mark actually is

 

[RLT63]

I don't watch broadcast TV so I am completely ignorant of all this, but I maintain that these types of people don't actually worship Satan theistically, but are atheists who only do these things to offend Christians. Many of these so-called "Satanists" are really just Atheist Randians with an anti-Christian gloss of paint over their "rational selfishness" doctrine. They hate Christians because they hate their parents, basically. Wiccans see themselves as a revival of traditional celtic druidism (even though it isn't). So while these people may be childish, they don't actually theistically worship Satan, but have some other moral philosophy.

Though many people do worship Satan in fact without realizing it, through following philosophies of carnality and selfishness. Even people who worship Jesus can be guilty of this.

I don't deny that the people who pretend to worship Satan ironically, ironically, actually do worship Satan in fact; but there will never be a mainstream and formalized religion based around this because it is designed to be edgy, countercultural and offensive to the public.

There are several organizations that formed as break sways from Anton Lavey’s Church of Satan and they are so well established that the US military includes a section on the religion for their chaplains’ training

 

[David in NJ]

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is spiritual not a physical mark.

God said it is in His word.

Why do you think others can SEE but you currently are unable?

 

[Marty fox]

God said it is in His word.

Why do you think others can SEE but you currently are unable?

Because I use to believe the same as you until I was challenged to really dig into see what the scriptures actually say.

But God doesn't say that it is a literal mark in His word just like the mark on the foreheads in Ezekiel chapter 9 isn't a literal mark. Scripture can't contradict itself and a literal mark contradicts scriptures like John 3:16. Thus we have to go back to scripture to get the true meaning scriptures like Ezekiel chapter 9.

 

[David in NJ]

Because I use to believe the same as you until I was challenged to really dig into see what the scriptures actually say.

But God doesn't say that it is a literal mark in His word just like the mark on the foreheads in Ezekiel chapter 9 isn't a literal mark. Scripture can't contradict itself and a literal mark contradicts scriptures like John 3:16. Thus we have to go back to scripture to get the true meaning scriptures like Ezekiel chapter 9.

How does a literal Mark contradict scripture?

 

[Marty fox]

How does a literal Mark contradict scripture?

Once again the bible says that whoever receives it is doomed and Jesus said that there is only one unforgivable sin and it wasn't the mark.

 

[David in NJ]

Because I use to believe the same as you until I was challenged to really dig into see what the scriptures actually say.

But God doesn't say that it is a literal mark in His word just like the mark on the foreheads in Ezekiel chapter 9 isn't a literal mark. Scripture can't contradict itself and a literal mark contradicts scriptures like John 3:16. Thus we have to go back to scripture to get the true meaning scriptures like Ezekiel chapter 9.

FYI - i used to believe it was spiritual also until i studied the scriptures from Genesis to Revelation.

 

[David in NJ]

Once again the bible says that whoever receives it is doomed and Jesus said that there is only one unforgivable sin and it wasn't the mark.

In case you missed this.......................

The SAME Jesus who spoke John 3:16 spoke Revelation and HE warns us that there is no forgiveness for taking the MoB.

Which Jesus do you believe???

 

[amigo de christo]

No Forgiveness for those who take the literal Mark of the Beast

This is WHY the LORD tells US to NOT accept the MARK !!!

Exactly . who was the message of revelation sent too . THE CHURCHES .
why would GOD warn a raptured church about not taking the mark of the beast .
We need to learn our bibles well .
Everything in it is for our good and we would be wise to learn it .
I think folks misunderstand tribulation from the beast and man verses wrath FROM GOD upon the ungodly .
IF we read the beast is given power against the SAINTS , not the AINTS
and if we read on we see the wrath of GOD cometh against THE BEAST and those who worshipped him .
ITS real simple . prepare to lose all , we are appointed UNTO TRIBULATION . Yet folks make the mistake
of thinking we escape it . WE escape ONLY THE WRATH OF GOD against the beast and its peoples .
As for tribulation . My advice is , be prepared to lose all to suffer for JESUS and even die .
Fear not man , fear not what is nor what is coming . We have a wonderful home that awaits us at the end of our faith .
But in this world we will be hated , and many will be killed too . The all inclusive we are one beast hates true lambs .
From the days of the apostels even up to now many lambs have been killed worldwide .
Expect not the last generation to escape tribulation . TRUTH IS its gonna get much worse and fast too .
BUT let us who are of the LORD have all hope in HIM . For whether we live or die we belong to the KING .
Fear not man . Course i bet by grace you already know this . i speak it for those who think
we wont be persecuted or even killed . ITS GONNA get MUCH WORSE and fast too .

 

[amigo de christo]

FYI - i used to believe it was spiritual also until i studied the scriptures from Genesis to Revelation.

SIE beast system , DIGITAL system is ripe for all of this as we speak . Folks got no idea what is behind that system .
No mark , no worship the beast , no comply , NO BUY OR SELL . just watch . Its ripe as we speak .