JOHN 14:12 WHATSOEVER YOU ASK

[LoveYeshua]

They were to preach the gospel of the kingdom not Paul's gospel

correct, they did NOT preach the Gospel of Paul, they preached what Jesus who has all authority on earth and Heaven commanded them!

[Mat 24:14 KJV] 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

This phase of the commission will be preached in the tribulation

Doug it clearly says to preach to all nations.

Mat 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,

Mat 28:20 and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

What you refer to (Mat 24:14) is part of Jesus prophecy of the end times, please note that I am preaching Repentance and the Kingdom of Heaven as Jesus asked, many also to the same. we are in the end times do you not see the current events?

 

[LoveYeshua]

did you read the new post I posted today on repentance? please leave a comment is you need me to explain further.

The Call from Jesus to Repent and is essential for Salvation

The Call from Jesus to Repent and is essential for Salvation Repentance was central to the ministry of Jesus Christ. Before Jesus began His public ministry, John the Baptist was sent to prepare the way by preaching repentance. As it is written, “In those days John the Baptist came preaching in...

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[Doug]

In the context of Genesis 15, Abraham's belief was about trusting in God's word, even when the circumstances seemed impossible. In that moment of faith, God declared Abraham righteous, not because of anything Abraham did, but because of his trust and faith in God's promises.

Yes

 

[Doug]

And Abraham Obeyed the Lord;

Gen 22:10 Then Abraham reached out his hand and took the knife to slaughter his son.
Gen 22:11 Just then the angel of the LORD called out to him from heaven, “Abraham, Abraham!” “Here I am,” he replied.
Gen 22:12 “Do not lay a hand on the boy or do anything to him,” said the angel, “for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your only son from me.”
Gen 22:13 Then Abraham looked up and saw behind him a ram in a thicket, caught by its horns. So he went and took the ram and offered it as a burnt offering in place of his son.
Gen 22:14 And Abraham called that place The LORD Will Provide. So to this day it is said, “On the mountain of the LORD it will be provided.”
Gen 22:15 And the angel of the LORD called to Abraham from heaven a second time,
Gen 22:16 saying, “By Myself I have sworn, declares the LORD, that because you have done this and have not withheld your only son,
Gen 22:17 I will surely bless you, and I will multiply your descendants like the stars in the sky and the sand on the seashore. Your descendants will possess the gates of their enemies.
Gen 22:18 And through your offspring all nations of the earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice.”

Abraham believed on the Lord in Genesis 15

[Gen 15:6 KJV] 6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

[Gen 17:10 KJV] 10 This [is] my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.

God made covenant with Abraham which Abraham had to keep

[Gen 22:10, 16-18 KJV] 10 And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son. ... 16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only [son]: 17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which [is] upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; 18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.

It was under covenant that Abraham obeyed and because he did God could bless

 

[Doug]

Obedience is important to the lord! and examples can be found throughout the old and new testament.

the word believe has many implication here is one of them as i said before;
Jas 2:17 So too, faith by itself, if it does not result in action, is dead.
Jas 2:18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds.
Jas 2:19 You believe that God is one. Good for you! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
Jas 2:20 O foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is worthless?
Jas 2:21 Was not our father Abraham justified by what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar?
Jas 2:22 You see that his faith was working with his actions, and his faith was perfected by what he did.
Jas 2:23 And the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called a friend of God.
Jas 2:24 As you can see, a man is justified by his deeds and not by faith alone.
Jas 2:25 In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute justified by her actions when she welcomed the spies and sent them off on another route?
Jas 2:26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

Under the covenant obedience was demanded and those who did were declared righteous but not to eternal life
We are to obedient to Paul's commandments

 

[Doug]

Doug it clearly says to preach to all nations.

Yes to all nations in the tribulation

 

[Doug]

correct, they did NOT preach the Gospel of Paul, t

Yes .......they did not

 

[LoveYeshua]

Abraham believed on the Lord in Genesis 15

[Gen 15:6 KJV] 6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

[Gen 17:10 KJV] 10 This [is] my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.

God made covenant with Abraham which Abraham had to keep

[Gen 22:10, 16-18 KJV] 10 And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son. ... 16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only [son]: 17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which [is] upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; 18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.

It was under covenant that Abraham obeyed and because he did God could bless

circumcision is of no effect today, we have a much better covenant as you know. also the covenant was given after Abraham was counted righteous. Abraham did what he did because he did trust, love and obeyed GOD.

 

[Doug]

Mat 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,

Mat 28:20 and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

this was in the established kingdom on earth.......note to the end after which the kingdom will come

 

[LoveYeshua]

Yes to all nations in the tribulation

show me the verses where the disciple were asked to preach in the tribulation. prove what you say, I always prove what I say to you with proper scripture please use proper scripture in the proper context also to prove your point.

 

[Doug]

circumcision is of no effect today,

did not say it was to be clear

 

[Doug]

also the covenant was given after Abraham was counted righteous.

Thats right

 

[Doug]

the covenant was given after Abraham was counted righteous. Abraham did what he did because he did trust, love and obeyed GOD.

He did what he did under covenant which God said the blessings could be given because he obeyed under the covenant..........[Gen 22:18 KJV] 18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.

 

[Doug]

show me the verses where the disciple were asked to preach in the tribulation. prove what you say, I always prove what I say to you with proper scripture please use proper scripture in the proper context also to prove your point.

I assume you mean Matthew 24:14

[Mat 24:3 KJV] 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what [shall be] the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

the disciples were asking about his coming and the end of the world which is preceded by the tribulation

 

[Keiw]

Luke 1:68
68 Blessed is the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited and redeemed His people,

Yes redeemed those who left Judaism to follow Jesus. They became Christian.

 

[Keiw]

What of
Romans 9:6-8 Not as though the word of God has taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: [7] Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall your seed be called. [8] That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.



What does that mean to you?

The reference to Israel is just meaning Gods chosen. Judaism rejects Jesus to this day. God rejects them. Matt 23:38-39

 

[LoveYeshua]

Under the covenant obedience was demanded and those who did were declared righteous but not to eternal life
We are to obedient to Paul's commandments

You should truly follow Christ instead of Paul and be devoted to Yeshua only who is one with GOD, Yeshua said clearly that the servant is not greater than his master (JOHN 13:16), Paul is a servant, then, why do you follow him and not Yeshua, do you see the error of your way, you have replaced GOD/Yeshua by Paul a murderer and the chief of sinners ( I am using Paul's words here).

It is Christ, the son of GOD who was given all authority on earth and heaven by the Holy Father in heaven who will judge you, just remember that. And no, you will not be judged by Paul's gospel but by Jesus's who knows the hearts of men, he called for repentance and tasked us to turn from sin as defined by the 10 commandments that are the covenant, simply believing will not cut it and you will be left short.

 

[Jack]

Yes redeemed those who left Judaism to follow Jesus. They became Christian.

How would you know? You declared our Bible to be Satanic!

 

[Jack]

The reference to Israel is just meaning Gods chosen. Judaism rejects Jesus to this day. God rejects them. Matt 23:38-39

Your JW opinions do not overrule the Bible.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

The reference to Israel is just meaning Gods chosen. Judaism rejects Jesus to this day. God rejects them. Matt 23:38-39

God rejects them. Is it only them or all works of the flesh that seeks its own profit are rejected, while seeking after the things that belong to God(is not rejected)? Isn’t this why all must be born again of the Spirit. Or was being born anew of the Spirit of God only to Israel?

This> Is it only them or all works of the flesh that seeks its own profit are rejected, while seeking after the things that belong to God(is not rejected)?
Makes me think of the topic of the thread “whatsoever you ask for in My Name”