Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

[WPM]

1. Luke 21:33
   Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.
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2. 2 Peter 3:10
   

   The Day of the Lord​

   But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.
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3. Revelation 21:1
   

   All Things Made New​

   Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea.

This all proves a climatic coming of the Lord.

 

[CadyandZoe]

The words "Satan's little season" are biblical words. Have you never read this:

Revelation 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

After thinking more about this, I'm wondering if I misunderstood your question. So, let me know if I've misunderstood your question here. I'm wondering if you actually meant to ask him what his understanding of Satan's little season entails and you want him to use scripture to show how he understands it? I realized that's what you may have meant based on his response to you.

And this pretty much defeats Amillennialism.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Don' t take it so personally. I don't. And I don't see where I have personally questioned your faith. I am telling you what scriptures says that I believe will happen.

I do not see how you can believe it by reading OT prophecy.

But I guess people see what they see

 

[Scott Downey]

I do not see how you can believe it by reading OT prophecy.

But I guess people see what they see

Ah, well the NC prophecy is the more sure word of prophecy and a superior revelation. I also do not believe in a millennial temple of animal sacrifices to God, Christ and the apostles never taught it. If it was real they would have.

I do believe the Jews will build a 3rd temple which Antichrist figure will claim as his own sit it in and claim he is God. The Jews still reject Christ to this day. I would not want to be near or have anything to do with it.

 

[Scott Downey]

Many Evangelicals pin their hopes on a Jewish 3rd temple, red heifers, animal sacrifices, worldwide ruling of Israel over the world, Christ's returning as a time of blessing from God rather than judgement.

But what do we read in the NT? it is an evil time before the end like the time of NOAH and LOT and their 3rd temple is an evil place where Satan dwells claiming he is God.

When Christ returns, it's the Last Day and the final judgement, just like the Parable of the Minas shows.

2 Timothy 4:1

I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom:

 

[WPM]

Ah, well the NC prophecy is the more sure word of prophecy and a superior revelation. I also do not believe in a millennial temple of animal sacrifices to God, Christ and the apostles never taught it. If it was real they would have.

I do believe the Jews will build a 3rd temple which Antichrist figure will claim as his own sit it in and claim he is God. The Jews still reject Christ to this day. I would not want to be near or have anything to do with it.

You're reading too many left behind novels. The only temple there is today is a spiritual temple. This is talking about God's people.

 

[Davy]

Understand then that Satan has been restrained even until now.
I believe the restrainer is Michael the archangel and Satan is restrained in that 'bottomless pit' until God signals it is time, and God pulls Michael back out of the way, and Satan is unleashed onto the world stage to fulfil the words of the Lord.

And that is... what the Daniel 10 chapter points to, with Michael doing the withholding.

But that would mean that "man of sin" Paul was warning about that is being withheld, would be about Satan, because the "prince of Persia" heavenly symbol given in Daniel 10 is about Satan.

 

[WPM]

Many Evangelicals pin their hopes on a Jewish 3rd temple, red heifers, animal sacrifices, worldwide ruling of Israel over the world, Christ's returning as a time of blessing from God rather than judgement.

But what do we read in the NT? it is an evil time before the end like the time of NOAH and LOT and their 3rd temple is an evil place where Satan dwells claiming he is God.

When Christ returns, it's the Last Day and the final judgement, just like the Parable of the Minas shows.

2 Timothy 4:1

I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom:

It is not the last or final day when Jesus comes in your theology. It is just a blip on the radar of time. That's because you have more days after "the last day." How ridiculous! You invent another aged in between "this age" and "the age to come" that Scripture knows nothing about.

One of the most grievous issues the objective Bible student will encounter when examining the different end-times views is how readily some of the views manipulate and twist the sense and import of common and straightforward original words, and their English rendering, in order to fit their forced theology. This is particularly so when it comes to examining Preterism and Premillennialism. This is seen in how many address the coming of the Lord and the final day of history.

The reality is: it should not be hard to get your head around the meaning of the terms “the first” and “the last.” It should not be difficult to comprehend the significance of what “the beginning” and “the end” refer to. It means what it says. If one takes a literal straightforward approach to them, they are easy to understand. It is man that complicates the matter.

 

[Scott Downey]

The resurrection happens on the LAST DAY as also does Christ's return

Does know one understand? The LAST DAY is the last day of this world.

This has clearly been taught by Christ, why would any oppose the Lord?

Come-on now guys, look it up for yourself.

 

[Scott Downey]

John 6:39
And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

John 6:40
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:54
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 11:24
Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

John 12:48
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

 

[WPM]

The resurrection happens on the LAST DAY as also does Christ's return

Does know one understand? The LAST DAY is the last day of this world.

It is the last day! It is the last day of this world. It is the last day of time. It is the last day of corruption. It is the last day of sin. It is the last day of Satan!

To understand the nature and timing of “the last day” (singular) you need to understand the character and location of “the last days” (plural). You need to understand the relationship between both. If you overlook this because of what you have been taught or miss it out of ignorance then you’re going to be confused with this whole interconnection between both.

According to clear and repeated Scripture, “the last days” (plural) occur between the first and second comings of Jesus Christ. It is referring to right now. The “last day” (singular) is His glorious appearing. This is the climatic “day of the Lord” that ushers in eternity. This is also known as “the end of the age.”

 

[WPM]

John 6:39
And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

John 6:40
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:54
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 11:24
Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

John 12:48
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

There you have it! The same day that the righteous are raised is the same day the wicked are judged. The deliverance of the redeemed and the destruction of the wicked are shown by Jesus in Luke 17 to be a simultaneous event. They occur on “the same day.”

Christ describes this day as an unanticipated day for many – one that will find many unprepared. For those who are playing at religion they will be caught on. They will face the same punishment as the “hypocrite” when He comes: “there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” The wicked are an all-inclusive group; they include every Christ-rejecter – from the religious professors to the outright profane hypocrites. They will all be caught in the destruction when they are left behind and the “heaven and earth ... pass away.”

The Bible shows the resurrection/judgment of the righteous and the resurrection of the wicked to occur on “the last day” of “the last days” when Jesus comes.

Here the wicked are judged on the same day that the righteous are judged, namely, the “last day” of the “last days.” Judgment day is therefore the last day. The term “the last day” is quoted different times in the New Testament without any form (or undoubted requirement) of qualification or any hint that there are two separate last days, as the Premillennialist would try and argue. When Christ or any other person referred to that final day in the New Testament it was always constantly in the context of its all-consummating nature, each time referring to the matter of the resurrection/judgment of both the wicked and the righteous. The references expressly refer to the last day of this age (the Gospel age) – the day that ushers in the new heaven and the new earth. There are absolutely no grounds for believing that the last day refers to a future millennium, and therefore lasts for a literal 1,000 years. Such a suggestion only emanates out of the Premillennialist camp in order to support their flawed view of Revelation 20.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Ah, well the NC prophecy is the more sure word of prophecy and a superior revelation.

Oh so you think NT is more perfect than the OT. yet it is all God breathed?

I also do not believe in a millennial temple of animal sacrifices to God, Christ and the apostles never taught it. If it was real they would have.

I am worried about what God said will happen.. Not what I think

I do believe the Jews will build a 3rd temple which Antichrist figure will claim as his own sit it in and claim he is God. The Jews still reject Christ to this day. I would not want to be near or have anything to do with it.

But thats the point. at the end of that period when antichrist defiles that temple is when Israel will repent. and THEN they will be restored.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Many Evangelicals pin their hopes on a Jewish 3rd temple,

My friend if you are going to try to attack a group of people. you should at least try to understand what they believe.

we do not pin our hopes on this. Our hopes are on christ 2000 years ago

 

[Scott Downey]

After the Last Day, there are no more days, we are into the eternal state. The sun and moon no longer mark the progression of time.
God gave us them to mark the times and seasons at the creation of this world.
The sun, moon, stars are all passing away at the return of Christ

You see then there can be no earthly millennial reign of a 1000 years, with the sun and moon and stars marking out the days, months, seasons after Christ's return.
As the former things have passed away.

Christ's own word show that the sun and moon turn dark, the stars are gone from the sky, they are no more, their usefulness is at an end.
The see Him at His returning because He returns in flaming fire, Christ is the Light.

Mark 13
21 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘Look, He is there!’ do not believe it. 22 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the [g]elect. 23 But take heed; see, I have told you all things beforehand.

The Coming of the Son of Man​

24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light;

25 the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.

26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then He will send His angels, and gather together His [h]elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven.


Rev 21

The Glory of the New Jerusalem​

22 But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. 23 The city had no need of the sun or of the moon to shine [a]in it, for the [b]glory of God illuminated it. The Lamb is its light. 24 And the nations [c]of those who are saved shall walk in its light, and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honor [d]into it.

Revelation 22:5
There shall be no night there: They need no lamp nor light of the sun, for the Lord God gives them light. And they shall reign forever and ever.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Many Evangelicals pin their hopes on a Jewish 3rd temple, red heifers, animal sacrifices, worldwide ruling of Israel over the world, Christ's returning as a time of blessing from God rather than judgement.

But what do we read in the NT? it is an evil time before the end like the time of NOAH and LOT and their 3rd temple is an evil place where Satan dwells claiming he is God.

When Christ returns, it's the Last Day and the final judgement, just like the Parable of the Minas shows.

2 Timothy 4:1

I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom:

Let's not suggest that the OT and the NT conflict. Their messages are in concord.

 

[CadyandZoe]

After the Last Day, there are no more days, we are into the eternal state. The sun and moon no longer mark the progression of time.
God gave us them to mark the times and seasons at the creation of this world.
The sun, moon, stars are all passing away at the return of Christ

The Millennial kingdom will be realized before the last day.

 

[WPM]

The Millennial kingdom will be realized before the last day.

I agree! Finally!!! PTL! You are seeing it!

 

[CadyandZoe]

There you have it! The same day that the righteous are raised is the same day the wicked are judged.

Jesus' discusses the final age, which he calls "the last day", and is much longer than 24 hours.

 

[CadyandZoe]

I agree! Finally!!! PTL! You are seeing it!

How do we agree?