Dead to the Law

[theefaith]

Paul never taught faith alone

 

[BloodBought 1953]

YOU HAVE HEREBY SHOWN YOUR TRUE COLORS.


Point/counterpoint? Your communication is just pure mayhem.
All in the same post. Great stuff.

Thanks!

 

[Charlie24]

Paul’s gospel?
Is that different than thee gospel?
Or the gospel of Christ?

Don't have time now theefaith! Got to run several errands.

Get back with you later! This is something I definitely want to discuss.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Paul’s epistes are read at every mass

And promptly ignored.....
Remember your precious “Counsel Of Trent?” Anybody that believes in Justification by Faith? Let them be damned!
Poor Old Abraham.....the Bible said that he simply “Believed God” and God considered him “ Righteous”......That poor deluded man is going to be Shocked on Judgement Day...he believed a lie all of his life according to those Trent Fools/ Demons......

 

[BloodBought 1953]

reject Paul? there’s an annual feast day of Peter and Paul

I suppose “ The Righteous by FEASTS shall live.” Right?

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Unless you subscribe to the Bible method of salvation

......or unless you think that Jesus was a Liar....

“ All Of Those That Believe In me ALREADY HAVE Eternal Life and shall NEVER come under Condemnation.....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

YOU HAVE HEREBY SHOWN YOUR TRUE COLORS.


Point/counterpoint? Your communication is just pure mayhem.
All in the same post. Great stuff.

The actual truth is that I care enough about all of you False Gospel Preachers to say a prayer for you even though that goes farther than God ever suggested.....God says to “ cast out” the Spreaders Of Leavon......he does NOT say to “ sweet- talk, cajole, beg, debate etc”....
I am no worse than you....you might conceivably care a little bit about me, but let’s face facts— When was the last time that you lost any sleep over me? It’s like that....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

At least I am not the only one that you are claiming preaches a false and perverted gospel...it appears that you say this about a lot of people...even certain people who are preaching the truth for the most part.


Interesting how you had to QUALIFY your “ Gospel”....... You say that you are preaching the truth “ FOR THE MOST PART”......
Indeed.....and that is the problem....you “ get” the Gospel “ for the most part” and then you Blow it all by Adding to it with “ Lucky Repentance ”, thereby Falling From Grace.....
You simply do not believe the Gospel—- That first part where it says that “ Jesus died for your sins” ....you simply do not believe it..... Your False, Perverted ,Gospel says that “ Jesus died for the sins you remembered to repent from”..... Its a false addition to the Gospel no matter how “ Holy” it sounds to those with “ itching ears”.....Paul said those that preach these False Gospels are “ Accursed”
Read Galatians ....ask for God's Guidance to understand it and to see yourself and your precarious condition.....

 

[BarneyFife]

What it means is that even though there was righteousness in the Law (Paul is speaking of the moral Law, 10 commandments) no one could attain it because no one could keep it. Jesus told them "did not Moses give you the Law, yet none of you keeps the Law." This is what Paul means by "for what the Law could not do, that it was weak through the flesh."

Paul told us that the Law was our schoolmaster to lead us to Christ. By not being able to keep the Law on our own, man was to look to the sacrificial Law, the sacrifice of an animal for sins, which represented the sacrifice of Christ.

When Christ came and became that sacrifice, He fulfilled the Law that we can't keep. By faith in Him the Law will be fulfilled in us by the fruits of the Spirit which dwells in us.

By faith in Christ, God sees us as Law-keepers, it is justification by faith, which is falsely seen by many as a license to sin.

The commandments that Christ gave us were given under the Law, but under Grace in which we live now that Christ has paid the sin debt of man in full, the commandments are keep in the New Covenant way, that is , faith in Christ.

Gal. 3:23-25

"But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster."

In other words, God was just waxing philosophical in Deuteronomy 5:29. Got it.

What about this:

Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws. (Genesis 26:5)

Is this just a fantastic soliloquy? Jesting with the air?

 

[BarneyFife]

Thanks!

You're welcome! Any time!

 

[BarneyFife]

The actual truth is that I care enough about all of you False Gospel Preachers to say a prayer for you even though that goes farther than God ever suggested.....God says to “ cast out” the Spreaders Of Leavon......he does NOT say to “ sweet- talk, cajole, beg, debate etc”....
I am no worse than you....you might conceivably care a little bit about me, but let’s face facts— When was the last time that you lost any sleep over me? It’s like that....

But you can't make up your mind whether or not you care about souls for whom Christ died, or communicate intelligibly. You're too busy spewing your feverous calumny. I don't rant on about whether I care for you or not. I pray for you every day. You may now proceed to call me a liar. Since baseless charges are all you can construct. You might want to repent. Just an idea.

I am no worse than you

Case in point

My dad used to say "If you talk long enough, you're bound to say something dumb." You're out of control.

 

[BarneyFife]

It is common to human nature to assume that others possess the evils entrenched in one's own heart.

 

[theefaith]

Thanks!

do you ever answer questions?
Respond to actual scripture verses?

 

[theefaith]

Don't have time now theefaith! Got to run several errands.

Get back with you later! This is something I definitely want to discuss.

no hurry

 

[theefaith]

I suppose “ The Righteous by FEASTS shall live.” Right?

Just an example

 

[BloodBought 1953]

do you ever answer questions?
Respond to actual scripture verses?

All the time .....check my record.....I seldom respond to you because you are too far gone....a victim of Popism, bad teaching, false gospels, etc
Sometimes I can use you as a Type of “ Springboard” to get the Truth Of The Gospel Of Grace out there so Newbies can get acquainted with it...those are the times that you can see me respond....

 

[theefaith]

All the time .....check my record.....I seldom respond to you because you are too far gone....a victim of Popism, bad teaching, false gospels, etc
Sometimes I can use you as a Type of “ Springboard” to get the Truth Of The Gospel Of Grace out there so Newbies can get acquainted with it...those are the times that you can see me respond....

using people is virtuous?

There is only one gospel touch by the one true church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles, and it is of grace by the merits of Jesus passion and blood and death and resurrection

but not faith alone
The Bible only says faith alone once!

big fat NOT in front of it!

James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

and Phil 1:29 opposes faith alone

phil 1:29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

 

[Charlie24]

In other words, God was just waxing philosophical in Deuteronomy 5:29. Got it.

What about this:

Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws. (Genesis 26:5)

Is this just a fantastic soliloquy? Jesting with the air?

Gen. 15:6

"And he believed in the LORD, and He accounted it to him for righteousness."

Abraham believed God, that's what saved him and why he did what God asked of him.

Just as it is today, we work because we are saved not to get saved.

If one doesn't understand this, it's going to be impossible to enter into the kingdom of God!

 

[BarneyFife]

do you ever answer questions?
Respond to actual scripture verses?

Fuuuhhhgetaboutit!

 

[BarneyFife]

Gen. 15:6

"And he believed in the LORD, and He accounted it to him for righteousness."

Abraham believed God, that's what saved him and why he did what God asked of him.

Just as it is today, we work because we are saved not to get saved.

If one doesn't understand this, it's going to be impossible to enter into the kingdom of God!

I couldn't agree more! Why are you having so much trouble with this? No Christian believes that commandment keeping atones for sin. Not one. It's the quintessential straw man.