BarneyFife
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Sure! Free love! It's the "Don't tread on me" brand of religion: Smaller government; less demands on people; don't judge me--it hurts.
Dead to the Law
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BarneyFife
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I know you can't wait to see me go down. It's all in your tone.
What Bible Truth? You didn't quote any.
No, the self-deception is believing you can keep Law by getting help from God for your own doings
@Blood Bought 1953 most assuredly can't wait to see me go down...this is evident in his threats against me where he has said that he wants to drive me off of these boards...
All for preaching the true and faithful gospel...which he, in his demented point of view, considers to be false and perverted...
I know you can't wait to see me go down.
It aint you—-I honestly could’t care less about you personally.....it’s your False, Perverted Gospel Additions That Ship Wreck the Lives Of Believers....You are Fallen From Grace....you don’t know it....and you spread your Damnable Leaven so that other poorly taught people “fall” right along with you.....I’m not gonna let YOU or anybody else “slide” with your False Teachings...
God’s remedy for your type is to “ CAST OUT the Bondwoman and her son”..... He does not say “ debate” them....he does not say, “kindly and sweetly try to persuade them” .....God does not even say to “ pray” for them —- he wants Legalists, Religionists and Tares Kicked Out Of The Church.....why?
“ A little Leaven , Leavens the whole batch”
Yes, it is my fervent hope to see your Doctrine “ go down” ....not you....I wish you much happiness in this life...it could be the only life you will ever know, depending upon how one defines “ fallen from Grace”......
As far as my “ tone” is concerned? You are spot-on with your analyses ....
It aint you—-I honestly could’t care less about you personally.....it’s your False, Perverted Gospel Additions That Ship Wreck the Lives Of Believers....You are Fallen From Grace....you don’t know it....and you spread your Damnable Leaven so that other poorly taught people “fall” right along with you.....I’m not gonna let YOU or anybody else “slide” with your False Teachings...
God’s remedy for your type is to “ CAST OUT the Bondwoman and her son”..... He does not say “ debate” them....he does not say, “kindly and sweetly try to persuade them” .....God does not even say to “ pray” for them —- he wants Legalists, Religionists and Tares Kicked Out Of The Church.....why?
“ A little Leaven , Leavens the whole batch”
Yes, it is my fervent hope to see your Doctrine “ go down” ....not you....I wish you much happiness in this life...it could be the only life you will ever know, depending upon how one defines “ fallen from Grace”......
As far as my “ tone” is concerned? You are spot-on with your analyses ....
All anybody has to do is read Galatians ....I have yet to see anybody prove that “ falling fromGrace” does not mean exactly what I say it means....of course, in and of itself , what I say it means is of no consequence .....it just so happens that Paul agrees with me
Any of you Legalists out there.....please inform me , in light of Paul’s writings, how does one actually “ Fall From Grace”...... not your worthless opinion —- I am talking about by Paul’s definition of it , which is to ADD to his Gospel with Works —- especially this Hog Wash of Repenting from all of your sins before you die or you go to Hell....aka, “Lucky Repentance”....
If you wanted the best for me you would want me to receive the reward that is due me for preaching the gospel; and instead of opposing me you would be confirming my words as being what they are...faithful words from the Holy Spirit to the people that I am ministering to.
But you don't...
1Pe 4:11, If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Thankfully I am not preaching any other gospel than what Paul preached.
Go ahead and "dig that up" (Proverbs 16:27 (kjv)) if you so desire.
But the thing is, even if I did willfully sin since coming to Christ, and Hebrews 10:26-31 condemns me, I am still being a faithful minister to preach what is taught by that passage.
Really, I have said that the Lord pointed out to me that He would chasten me for the willful sins that I have committed since coming to Him, even as it is written in Amos 3:2 and Hebrews 12:5-11 (especially Hebrews 12:6)...
Where did I say that?
I know that I have sinned even in the recent past; but I do not believe that my sins were willful.
I may have committed one willful sin since coming to the Lord...the rest, of a similar nature, were done out of weakness because I became addicted to that sin because it was a pleasurable one...and also, I have continued to commit it because I have thought that I could not repent of it.
And for that I felt condemned until the Lord showed me that I am not condemned because I walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit (Romans 8:1 (kjv)).
It only afflicts me on occasion...about once every three weeks I am tempted and find that I am very susceptible to that temptation when it comes.
So, when I sin that sin, it should be clear that I commit it out of weakness and not out of a willful intent to sin against the Lord. Because I usually fight it until it becomes unbearable not to give in...there are times that, because I know that it will eventually become unbearable, I give in long before it becomes unbearable.
However, most hours, my walk is in freedom and victory over sin. I just can't say yet that I have permanent or consistent victory over it.
While I believe that it is possible and because of that I am justified (Romans 4:20-22; 1 Thessalonians 5:22-23 (kjv), Hebrews 10:14 (kjv), 1 John 3:9; 1 John 3:7, 1 John 3:3, 1 John 2:6; Jude 1:24, 2 Peter 1:10, 1 John 2:10; 1 John 3:6, 1 John 2:17; Romans 6:6 (kjv), Colossians 2:11 (kjv), (NLT)).
If anyone truly loves and cares about me, I would appreciate their prayers as concerning the information that I have divested to the body today; as well as to my enemies.
I guess that Hosea 9:7 is true of me in that I am a foolish prophet.
Foolish in that I am transparent before my enemies and will declare my weaknesses even knowing that they very likely will later use the information against me.
My understanding on that is still up in the air. It would seem that in Romans 3:25 (kjv) it says that Jesus only died for past sins...
However in Romans 4:8 it does seem to me that future sins might also be included in what He has died for.
And also, the sin that I commit 5 minutes from now will be a past sin 5 minutes and 1 second from now. So, if He only died for past sins, are not future sins also included to a certain extent?
The only problem with this doctrine in your life is the effect that it has had on your life.
While it may even be true and faithful doctrine, it has caused you to cast off all fear of the Lord; and therefore you are not wise...
Job 28:28, And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.
I find you to be arrogant and hard-hearted concerning those things that I might say to you that might, if you heeded them, make you into a contrite and humble person.
You come off as cocky and as though you feel that you can do any wrong and there will be no consequences....you have cast off all fear of the Lord.
You have just identified yourself as a Tare alongside of @Behold...if you lump yourself in with him who teaches the gnostic doctrine of denying indwelling sin, then you are just as much of a heretic as he is.
Thank you, there, for affirming the gospel that I preach, as one that has been attacked by you and therefore is very likely the correct one (and not only very likely...it is the correct one...though your statement only provides for the likelihood of it being so).
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At least I am not the only one that you are claiming preaches a false and perverted gospel...it appears that you say this about a lot of people...even certain people who are preaching the truth for the most part.
If you read your whole book of Galatians, you would have seen that Galatians 5:19-21 substantiates the doctrine of "Lucky Repentance".
Paul preaches that if you bear the fruit of the Spirit, there is no law that will condemn you for your behaviour (Galatians 5:22-23); and therefore we become law-abiding citizens of the kingdom of heaven when we bear the fruit of the Spirit; whom we receive through faith in Jesus Christ.
Also, the love of the Lord (which is the primary fruit of the Spirit) is not impractical (1 John 3:17-18); and that indicates to me that works will result out of faith in Jesus Christ by which we obtain the love of the Lord (Galatians 3:14, Romans 5:5).
You are not saved by works...
But I am saved unto good works; which the Lord has foreordained that I should walk in (Ephesians 2:10).
The thief on the cross didn't have any good works...but if you have the opportunity to do a good work and then don't do it, chances are you don't have the Holy Spirit in you to lead you to do that good work...because God has foreordained certain works for you to walk in and if you don't do it, you aren't necessarily unsaved...however you are going to have to give an account to the Lord on that day for your sin of omission...
Many will say to God on that day concerning this that "I was saved by grace; so I didn't have to do that good work..." He will respond to them, "I determine who is saved by grace and who isn't." and they will be judged as having been presumptuous concerning salvation and of "resting on their laurels" and will be found to have been a "wicked and slothful servant" (Matthew 25:26 and context); and He is going to cast them into outer darkness (Matthew 25:30).
Behold
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"behold" does not have "indwelling sin".
behold, and blood bought, and all the born again, have indwelling CHRIST.
If you, justbyfaith, have indwelling sin, then you are not born again, as Jesus does not yet have your sin.
Wake up.
Resolve this spiritual issue.
You are not promised tomorrow.
Get away from the Jehovah's Witness and "cult of the Virgin's" water cult demonic lies about WATER.
If you claim to have been born again and also claim to have "sin" then you are taking God's name in vain, and are a deceiving reprobate.
Do not be this person, any longer, as you claim to be.
What do you think this means?
Rom. 8:3-4
"For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."
Behold
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All who are born again are eternally secure.
Jesus, lives on the inside of the born again, so, He can never tell the born again...>"depart from me i never KNEW YOU".
He would be lying to say He never knew you, when He is on the inside of you, and you are blood bought with His own blood.
Its the HERETICS who deny that Jesus keeps you saved.
See....Once you are born again, you are always born again.
BarneyFife
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It simply means that Jesus did what He wanted to do all along, at least as far back as:
O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever! (Deuteronomy 5:29)
The new covenant faith was available long before the 1st century, even before it was known as such.
BarneyFife
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YOU HAVE HEREBY SHOWN YOUR TRUE COLORS.
Point/counterpoint? Your communication is just pure mayhem.
All in the same post. Great stuff.
BarneyFife
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What it means is that even though there was righteousness in the Law (Paul is speaking of the moral Law, 10 commandments) no one could attain it because no one could keep it. Jesus told them "did not Moses give you the Law, yet none of you keeps the Law." This is what Paul means by "for what the Law could not do, that it was weak through the flesh."
Paul told us that the Law was our schoolmaster to lead us to Christ. By not being able to keep the Law on our own, man was to look to the sacrificial Law, the sacrifice of an animal for sins, which represented the sacrifice of Christ.
When Christ came and became that sacrifice, He fulfilled the Law that we can't keep. By faith in Him the Law will be fulfilled in us by the fruits of the Spirit which dwells in us.
By faith in Christ, God sees us as Law-keepers, it is justification by faith, which is falsely seen by many as a license to sin.
The commandments that Christ gave us were given under the Law, but under Grace in which we live now that Christ has paid the sin debt of man in full, the commandments are keep in the New Covenant way, that is , faith in Christ.
Gal. 3:23-25
"But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster."
The RCC no more respects Paul's Gospel of the New Covenant that do the Muslims!
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