Churches are failing as we all know.

[amigo de christo]

Don't watch Satan. Keep your eyes on Jesus.

Much love!

sorry mark that dont float . I actually love people so i warn people .
Now christendom has tanked mark . DO you really THINK it brings me joy to say that . IT DONT , I WEEP
more than most do about it . BY grace i am gonna do something about it . ME IS GONNA WARN .
My eyes are ON CHRIST , but many have thier eyes and hopes on a false love that came of the world
that offers up a false hope that wont save squat . I am gonna do all to warn and to help them mark .
The church keeps scratching its head and saying MAN how did it get so bad
AS they sit silent and let leaven take over and wont correct . NOT I , mark , NOT I , by grace i am gonna continually remind
Even those who know the truth .

 

[marks]

sorry mark that dont float . I actually love people so i warn people .
Now christendom has tanked mark . DO you really THINK it brings me joy to say that . IT DONT , I WEEP
more than most do about it . BY grace i am gonna do something about it . ME IS GONNA WARN .
My eyes are ON CHRIST , but many have thier eyes and hopes on a false love that came of the world
that offers up a false hope that wont save squat . I am gonna do all to warn and to help them mark .
The church keeps scratching its head and saying MAN how did it get so bad
AS they sit silent and let leaven take over and wont correct . NOT I , mark , NOT I , by grace i am gonna continually remind
Even those who know the truth .

I guess the point here is that you are simply using my posts as an excuse to post your oft expressed warnings to others. It's kind of like spamming, when you think of it. I'm here to have a conversation, and you post replies, but instead of wanting to converse, you post your oft posted message. And you engage in the same overgeneralizations, It's not so meaningful when you just act as though every church were the same. There's no discernment, no fairness.

That don't float with me. Sorry!

Much love!

 

[amigo de christo]

I guess the point here is that you are simply using my posts as an excuse to post your oft expressed warnings to others. It's kind of like spamming, when you think of it. I'm here to have a conversation, and you post replies, but instead of wanting to converse, you post your oft posted message. And you engage in the same overgeneralizations, It's not so meaningful when you just act as though every church were the same. There's no discernment, no fairness.

That don't float with me. Sorry!

Much love!

always remember when our convesations put hopes into men its fruitless .
We need have our conversation in CHRIST JESUS . just keep that in mind my friend .
too many are abandoning doctrine for sake of unity and getting along . that will bode their destruction .

 

[Keiw]

Well even Paul in corinthians declared it was necessary for divisions to be in teh church, so the tried and true would stand out!

Paul didn't teach division-he taught the opposite=1Cor 1:10= Unity of thought(on all of Gods 1 truth found in the bible) no division.
hundreds of trinity religions have hundreds of different truths on matters= a house divided will not stand.

 

[amigo de christo]

Paul didn't teach division-he taught the opposite=1Cor 1:10= Unity of thought(on all of Gods 1 truth found in the bible) no division.
hundreds of trinity religions have hundreds of different truths on matters= a house divided will not stand.

Lets clear that up shall we . WHEN paul taught against division and spoke of unity
HE DID what most all DO NOT DO TODAY .
they try and remove doctrine and not just bad docrine BUT GOOD DOCTRINE TOO
in order to just have unity lets get along .
NOW paul he said , MARK those who cause divisions contrary TO THE DOCTRINE YE HAVE LEARNED
and AVOID THEM . THIS generation do THE OPPOSITE
it marks those who bring SOUND DOCTRINE and says GET OUTTA OF OUR CHURCHES HATERS , WE IS FOR UNITY .
but they forgot something , THEY UNITY AINT UNDER CHRIST . its under a pretender who has come
wearing wool and using the name of JESUS to preach a false love , a false unity , a dead end fake common ground message
that has decieved this people big time . OKAY now that we cleared that up , YOU haves a nice day now .

 

[Jay Ross]

But that suggestion is made in complete ignorance.

But it is surprising how much of ourselves that we unintentionally put on display for others to see. Yes, the outside of the cup may look nice and shiny, but what about the inside of the cup? Do we spend as much time on cleaning the inside of the cup, that others supposedly cannot see, as we do on the outside of the cup for appearance's sake?

 

[marks]

But it is surprising how much of ourselves that we unintentionally put on display for others to see. Yes, the outside of the cup may look nice and shiny, but what about the inside of the cup? Do we spend as much time on cleaning the inside of the cup, that others supposedly cannot see, as we do on the outside of the cup for appearance's sake?

That's a question one should ask themself.

Much love!

 

[Keiw]

Lets clear that up shall we . WHEN paul taught against division and spoke of unity
HE DID what most all DO NOT DO TODAY .
they try and remove doctrine and not just bad docrine BUT GOOD DOCTRINE TOO
in order to just have unity lets get along .
NOW paul he said , MARK those who cause divisions contrary TO THE DOCTRINE YE HAVE LEARNED
and AVOID THEM . THIS generation do THE OPPOSITE
it marks those who bring SOUND DOCTRINE and says GET OUTTA OF OUR CHURCHES HATERS , WE IS FOR UNITY .
but they forgot something , THEY UNITY AINT UNDER CHRIST . its under a pretender who has come
wearing wool and using the name of JESUS to preach a false love , a false unity , a dead end fake common ground message
that has decieved this people big time . OKAY now that we cleared that up , YOU haves a nice day now .

Yes 99% of all the religions claiming to be Christian are false religions. Misleading all to not enter Gods kingdom.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Paul didn't teach division-he taught the opposite=1Cor 1:10= Unity of thought(on all of Gods 1 truth found in the bible) no division.
hundreds of trinity religions have hundreds of different truths on matters= a house divided will not stand.

No He didn't teach to ber divided, but He recognized the differences in people like Jews and Gentiles and how they apporoached worship etc.

He also recognized differences because of the different Apostles and how they approached church planting.

 

[Keiw]

No He didn't teach to ber divided, but He recognized the differences in people like Jews and Gentiles and how they apporoached worship etc.

He also recognized differences because of the different Apostles and how they approached church planting.

There is but one single path to take being a true follower= follow Jesus' footsteps as best as one can. By learning and applying and obeying= EVERY utterance from God.

 

[amigo de christo]

There is but one single path to take being a true follower= follow Jesus' footsteps as best as one can. By learning and applying and obeying= EVERY utterance from God.

today they call that legalism .
But what does the HOLY SPIRIT REALLY DO . IT TEACHES US TO DO JUST THIS and gives us even the ablity and desire to do so .
And it even reminds us to do so , JUST like JESUS DID and the apostels did .
The problem is man and mans love for sin for whatever pleasures the flesh . and the man who loves that which pleases
his flesh will NEVER love that which pleases GOD . THEY INVENT another image of GOD and of CHRIST
and attack anyone who walks holy and walks by the SPIRIT and reminds all to WALK by the SPIRIT .
WHY . you might be asking why
many are so fast to try and call one a legalist or label them as being in error .
ITS REAL SIMPLE .
SO simple a child can see it .
THEY DONT WANTTO BELEIVE they can walk as the true lambs walk . WHEN THEY SEE
a true lamb in action walking holy and righteously by the power of the SPIRIT
IT MAKES THEM REALIZE the very one thing THEY DO NOT WANT to beleive .
AND that is this , IF we can do it , THEN IT MEANT THEY COULD HAVE . THEY JUST DIDNT WANT TO WALK LIKE THAT
so they made every excuse under the book to condemn our walk . FACTS are facts and i know
what i just typed will probably have what is left of those who have not yet to put me on ignore , PUT ME ON IGNORE .
THEY DONT WANT TO BELIEVE it can be DONE IN CHRIST ,they want to beleive as they desire to believe .

 

[Keiw]

today they call that legalism .
But what does the HOLY SPIRIT REALLY DO . IT TEACHES US TO DO JUST THIS and gives us even the ablity and desire to do so .
And it even reminds us to do so , JUST like JESUS DID and the apostels did .
The problem is man and mans love for sin for whatever pleasures the flesh . and the man who loves that which pleases
his flesh will NEVER love that which pleases GOD . THEY INVENT another image of GOD and of CHRIST
and attack anyone who walks holy and walks by the SPIRIT and reminds all to WALK by the SPIRIT .
WHY . you might be asking why
many are so fast to try and call one a legalist or label them as being in error .
ITS REAL SIMPLE .
SO simple a child can see it .
THEY DONT WANTTO BELEIVE they can walk as the true lambs walk . WHEN THEY SEE
a true lamb in action walking holy and righteously by the power of the SPIRIT
IT MAKES THEM REALIZE the very one thing THEY DO NOT WANT to beleive .
AND that is this , IF we can do it , THEN IT MEANT THEY COULD HAVE . THEY JUST DIDNT WANT TO WALK LIKE THAT
so they made every excuse under the book to condemn our walk . FACTS are facts and i know
what i just typed will probably have what is left of those who have not yet to put me on ignore , PUT ME ON IGNORE .
THEY DONT WANT TO BELIEVE it can be DONE IN CHRIST ,they want to beleive as they desire to believe .

Jesus meant every word he said 100%--Man does not live by bread alone but by EVERY utterance from God.

 

[Marvelloustime]

today they call that legalism .
But what does the HOLY SPIRIT REALLY DO . IT TEACHES US TO DO JUST THIS and gives us even the ablity and desire to do so .
And it even reminds us to do so , JUST like JESUS DID and the apostels did .
The problem is man and mans love for sin for whatever pleasures the flesh . and the man who loves that which pleases
his flesh will NEVER love that which pleases GOD . THEY INVENT another image of GOD and of CHRIST
and attack anyone who walks holy and walks by the SPIRIT and reminds all to WALK by the SPIRIT .
WHY . you might be asking why
many are so fast to try and call one a legalist or label them as being in error .
ITS REAL SIMPLE .
SO simple a child can see it .
THEY DONT WANTTO BELEIVE they can walk as the true lambs walk . WHEN THEY SEE
a true lamb in action walking holy and righteously by the power of the SPIRIT
IT MAKES THEM REALIZE the very one thing THEY DO NOT WANT to beleive .
AND that is this , IF we can do it , THEN IT MEANT THEY COULD HAVE . THEY JUST DIDNT WANT TO WALK LIKE THAT
so they made every excuse under the book to condemn our walk . FACTS are facts and i know
what i just typed will probably have what is left of those who have not yet to put me on ignore , PUT ME ON IGNORE .
THEY DONT WANT TO BELIEVE it can be DONE IN CHRIST ,they want to beleive as they desire to believe .

@amigo de christo

 

[MA2444]

Churches are failing as we all know. When it comes to Christianity why are churches the last 10 years failing?

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There are several factors contributing to the struggles and decline of many churches over the past decade. While each church and community is unique, common themes emerge across regions and denominations. Here are some of the key reasons why churches have been facing challenges recently, particularly in the Western world:​

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1. Cultural Shifts and Secularization​

• Secularism: Many societies have become more secular, and there is often a cultural emphasis on individualism and self-reliance. For some, Christianity is viewed as outdated or irrelevant, making it challenging for churches to attract and retain members.
• Distrust of Institutions: Trust in institutions, including the church, has declined, especially among younger generations. Scandals, hypocrisy, or financial mismanagement in some high-profile churches have further damaged public trust.
• Moral Relativism: With increasing emphasis on moral relativism and "live your truth" mentalities, traditional Christian teachings on absolute truth, morality, and sin are often in direct contrast to cultural norms, making them less appealing to broader audiences.

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2. Generational Differences and Youth Disengagement​

• Failure to Engage Younger Generations: Many churches struggle to connect with Millennials and Generation Z. Some of these younger members feel the church hasn’t addressed their questions, social concerns, or interests.
• Relevance: Younger generations often seek authenticity and transparency, and if church services or teachings don’t resonate or feel relevant, they may drift away in search of community or purpose elsewhere.
• Rigid Traditions: Churches that are unwilling to adapt traditions or methods (without compromising core beliefs) can feel unapproachable or irrelevant to those unfamiliar with church culture or rituals.

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3. Internal Division and Lack of Unity​

• Political and Social Divisions: Political polarization has crept into many churches, creating divides over social and moral issues. When churches emphasize political agendas or specific viewpoints, it can lead to disunity and even alienation within congregations.
• Doctrinal Disagreements: Conflicts over doctrinal interpretations or social issues have split congregations and even denominations. This can weaken the church’s influence and credibility.
• Loss of Focus on Core Mission: When churches focus more on external controversies than on discipleship, worship, and community, it can cause members to feel disconnected from the primary mission of the church.

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4. Shifts in Attendance Patterns and Commitment​

• Less Regular Attendance: Many people now attend church sporadically rather than every week. This shift in attendance patterns has impacted community cohesion and financial stability.
• Competing Priorities: With busy schedules, family commitments, sports, and other activities, regular church attendance can take a back seat. Additionally, some people find spiritual fulfillment through other means, like online sermons, podcasts, or self-guided studies.
• Online Options and “Church Shopping”: The accessibility of online worship, particularly post-pandemic, has led some to engage less in traditional church settings. Others may “church shop,” moving from one church to another without forming long-term commitments.

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5. Failure to Address Relevant Issues and Provide Practical Guidance​

• Avoidance of Tough Topics: Some churches may avoid addressing pressing social issues, personal struggles, or complex questions about faith. This can lead to members feeling that the church isn’t meeting their real-life needs.
• Lack of Practical Application: Churches that focus solely on doctrine without teaching its practical application may struggle to engage members, who seek guidance for day-to-day life challenges and spiritual growth.
• Outdated Approaches: If preaching styles, outreach methods, or service structures haven’t adapted to contemporary needs and communication styles, some people may find them irrelevant or unappealing.

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6. Leadership Failures and Scandals​

• High-Profile Scandals: Unfortunately, instances of moral failure, financial misconduct, and abuse within churches have deeply affected public perception. These failures cause disillusionment, and hurt, and damage trust.
• Lack of Relatable Leadership: In some cases, church leadership can appear out of touch with the realities of congregants’ lives, failing to provide relatable or empathetic guidance.
• Poor Discipleship and Leadership Training: Churches that don’t invest in developing strong, servant-hearted leaders and disciples often struggle to maintain growth and spiritual depth within their communities.

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7. Consumer Mentality and Shallow Engagement​

• Consumerism: Many approach church with a consumer mindset, expecting it to meet their preferences rather than approaching it with a commitment to serve and grow. If expectations aren’t met, they may leave or look for another church.
• Shallow Engagement: In some cases, churches focus on entertainment or surface-level experiences rather than deep spiritual growth. This can attract people initially but often fails to create lasting commitment and spiritual maturity.
• Overemphasis on Attractional Models: When churches focus heavily on programs and entertainment, they may draw crowds but struggle to build a strong, committed community of believers focused on discipleship.

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Moving Forward: What Can Churches Do?​

To address these challenges and remain effective in their mission, churches can:​

1. Reconnect with the Core Message: Churches that focus on the core message of the Gospel—God’s love, grace, and truth—can cut through cultural noise and offer something unique, transcendent, and transformational.
2. Prioritize Authentic Community and Discipleship: Building a strong community and offering genuine discipleship can meet the spiritual hunger that people still feel but may not find in other social groups or online.
3. Engage with Younger Generations: Listening to younger generations, addressing their questions, and involving them in meaningful ways within the church can create a lasting impact and inspire long-term commitment.
4. Model Integrity and Transparency: Churches that demonstrate honesty, humility, and openness can rebuild trust and credibility. When leaders acknowledge mistakes and approach ministry with a servant’s heart, it resonates with people’s desire for authenticity.
5. Equip Members for Real-Life Application: By providing practical, applicable guidance, churches can help believers navigate the complexities of modern life with a faith that is relevant and grounded in biblical truth.
6. Embrace Flexibility Without Compromising Doctrine: While it’s important to adapt to changing times, churches can do so without compromising their beliefs. Finding creative ways to worship, connect, and serve can allow the church to meet people where they are.
7. Cultivate Spiritual Depth: By emphasizing a relationship with Christ over ritual and personal transformation over entertainment, churches can create a spiritually fulfilling experience that draws people back to their faith and each other.

Though churches face many challenges, these can also be opportunities for renewal and growth. Addressing these issues with grace, courage, and adaptability can help churches thrive and continue to make a positive impact. These are opinion based on my life long experience with God. Your views may vary, please share what you think.​

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There is a great falling away happening. Did you realize that the church age is almost over? As soon as the rapture happens, it's over for the church age. The age of grace ends at the same time too, I'm pretty sure.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

There is but one single path to take being a true follower= follow Jesus' footsteps as best as one can. By learning and applying and obeying= EVERY utterance from God.

And yet true followers will still disagree. It is part of the human condition.

 

[amigo de christo]

@amigo de christo
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todays sick motto of even many within christendom is
The world dont love you haters cause you do expose its sins . YE ought to not correct , not judge
and just go with the flow . In fact if you examine most
they think IF the world DONT love us then we at fault . that the world SHOULD LOVE US . pretty sad days indeed .

 

[amigo de christo]

And yet true followers will still disagree. It is part of the human condition.

and yet true followers need to correct the church . its not about we agree to disagree
its about we NEED TO AGREE WITH WHAT JESUS TAUGHT and later the apostels taught . OH haters are gonna hate on me
for saying that . cause it is not lovey dovey sounding . WE are in DIRE TOTAL TROUBLE within christendom in these
very last and final hours .

 

[Ronald Nolette]

and yet true followers need to correct the church . its not about we agree to disagree
its about we NEED TO AGREE WITH WHAT JESUS TAUGHT and later the apostels taught . OH haters are gonna hate on me
for saying that . cause it is not lovey dovey sounding . WE are in DIRE TOTAL TROUBLE within christendom in these
very last and final hours .

Yes we are, but are you 100% correct 100% of the time? If you are, you are teh first believer who was or is or will be.

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes we are, but are you 100% correct 100% of the time? If you are, you are teh first believer who was or is or will be.

correct and always correct . that be the motto and the truth .
this agree to disagree and just get along , that came of SATAN not GOD and its how andwhy many fall away .
REMEMBER THAT .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes we are, but are you 100% correct 100% of the time? If you are, you are teh first believer who was or is or will be.

men can ask and say anything they desire , but i do not look to me nor do i answer by my own .
CORRECT and always correct . CORRECTION IS LOVE . that might seem hard to beleive
but what i mean is , IF WE TRULY LOVE we would have corrected any bro or sis IN ANY ERROR .
Take that to the bank friend . no man gonna hinder me , stop me from correcting or reminding others to do so .
IF i judged my walk by me and my efforts and heeded men who said ARE YOU PERFECT
i would have long went the way , the bad way christendom has went .
SPEAK TRUTH , always speak truth. CORRECTION GOOD , no correcting BAD .