Bible alone!

[theefaith]

2 different stories a thousand years apart.

with the same principle

here’s another



Ezekiel 44:2 “This gate shall remain shut; it shall not be opened, and no one shall enter by it; for the Lord, the God of Israel, has entered by it; therefore it shall remain shut.”

Song of Solomon 4:12 A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed.

(Mary had become the temple & dwelling place of the Almighty, like the Ark of the Covenant in the Old Testament. Mary was a vessel consecrated to God alone?)

 

[amigo de christo]

yes we owe obedience to Christ the king
And he founded a kingdom Dan 2:44 and appointed valid authorized ministers
Then ascended to heaven
Do obedience to his ministers is obedience to Christ the king!

the ring is only a sign of this authority that Christ ordained in Peter and his successors

not worship
Not adoration

Again its rather odd that the orginal peter is nothing like these popes .
As i said , you been decieved my friend .

 

[David in NJ]

Are you of the persuasion of folks that think that God does not know folks until they are born?

Did God actually know Jeremiah before his parents conceived him or was that just God making it up(exaggerating).

lol - The Holy Spirit which is the Spirit of Truth has taught me a 'thing or two' because HE's been around, well, let's just say for ETERNITY.

 

[Truther]

yes He became man!

Both God and man
Two natures two wills
One person

Only God has glory!

John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

begotten does not mean created
All men are created only Christ is begotten!

So, God is man?

Man is God?

Interesting.

I always thought I read the man Christ Jesus had a God???

Maybe God was inside the man Christ Jesus as he described in John 14?...


10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

 

[Truther]

It’s a logical conclusion

like there are three kings or wise men!

The Bible never says there are three!
But three gifts are mentioned so a logical conclusion would by that there are three kings or wide men!

and lk 1:43 shows that a vow of perpetual virginity is a logical conclusion

Do you know what we are when we ass u me something?

 

[Truther]

opposite divinity of Christ makes Mary the mother of God

No, Mary was the mother of the son of God, not God(the son).

Boy the RCC really messed you folks up.

 

[Truther]

with the same principle

here’s another



Ezekiel 44:2 “This gate shall remain shut; it shall not be opened, and no one shall enter by it; for the Lord, the God of Israel, has entered by it; therefore it shall remain shut.”

Song of Solomon 4:12 A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed.

(Mary had become the temple & dwelling place of the Almighty, like the Ark of the Covenant in the Old Testament. Mary was a vessel consecrated to God alone?)

No, it is a different story.

The Bible is not interpreted via "principle".

 

[Truther]

lol - The Holy Spirit which is the Spirit of Truth has taught me a 'thing or two' because HE's been around, well, let's just say for ETERNITY.

Just to give you a little insight of where God is regarding "time"...

5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

God is smart.

 

[David in NJ]

Just to give you a little insight of where God is regarding "time"...

5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

God is smart.

HE said this to Jeremiah and it pertains to all humans that were created by God.

JESUS was never a man BEFORE His Coming and HE was NEVER created.

In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with Elohim and the Word was Elohim.

 

[Truther]

HE said this to Jeremiah and it pertains to all humans that were created by God.

JESUS was never a man BEFORE His Coming and HE was NEVER created.

In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with Elohim and the Word was Elohim.

That’s not what Rev 13:8 and Col 1 says

 

[EloyCraft]

I'm asking what do I need outside of scripture ?

You need to be a member of the community that has surrounded Jesus since the beginning. The laying on of hands is the conduit of the Holy Spirit.
You need those Christians who came before you.

Without them You wouldn't have ever heard of Jesus.

You need a history unbroken and remembered generation upon generation back to the founders and authors of the scriptures. The scriptures are like a family album. The family knows the subtler meanings like the back story of a snapshot of the past. The Word of God is still the conduit of Faith but not confined to print. Sound is the conduit of Faith. The sound of the Word is heard during Mass.
A Sacrament is the activity of God in the life of the faithful. A teaching handed down from the Father's from generation to generation. An infallible teaching so truth didn't come down from heaven in vain.

 

[David in NJ]

That’s not what Rev 13:8 and Col 1 says

In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with Elohim and the Word was Elohim.
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men

He is the image of the invisible Elohim, the firstborn over all creation.
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.

Friend = Pray that your eyes may be opened to SEE His Glory

 

[n2thelight]

You need to be a member of the community that has surrounded Jesus since the beginning. The laying on of hands is the conduit of the Holy Spirit.
You need those Christians who came before you.

Without them You wouldn't have ever heard of Jesus.

You need a history unbroken and remembered generation upon generation back to the founders and authors of the scriptures. The scriptures are like a family album. The family knows the subtler meanings like the back story of a snapshot of the past. The Word of God is still the conduit of Faith but not confined to print. Sound is the conduit of Faith. The sound of the Word is heard during Mass.
A Sacrament is the activity of God in the life of the faithful. A teaching handed down from the Father's from generation to generation. An infallible teaching so truth didn't come down from heaven in vain.

So you adding to scripture ?
What history do I need ,history of the catholic church

I don't care how I got the Scripture's God saw to it that I did , why would one need that encyclopedia called the catechism ?

Ya'll worse than the pharisees and sadducees

Yet the question remains unanswered ,what do I need outside of scripture ?

 

[EloyCraft]

So you adding to scripture ?
What history do I need ,history of the catholic church

I don't care how I got the Scripture's God saw to it that I did , why would one need that encyclopedia called the catechism ?

Ya'll worse than the pharisees and sadducees

Yet the question remains unanswered ,what do I need outside of scripture ?

You asked I posted some things. I'm sorry I didn't mean to offend you.

 

[n2thelight]

You asked I posted some things. I'm sorry I didn't mean to offend you.

No offense taken .

 

[David in NJ]

So you adding to scripture ?
What history do I need ,history of the catholic church

I don't care how I got the Scripture's God saw to it that I did , why would one need that encyclopedia called the catechism ?

Ya'll worse than the pharisees and sadducees

Yet the question remains unanswered ,what do I need outside of scripture ?

Many people have read and studied the scriptures since they were given and yet the LORD says this:
"You diligently search the Scriptures because you think to have eternal life in them, and these are they bearing witness concerning Me"

So the written scriptures testify to who Christ is, and yet HE is outside of them, standing right in front of those who read them.

I believe in the application of Sola Scriptura for God's will to be done on earth as it is ??? Oh Yeah in HEAVEN

 

[Truther]

In the beginning was the (SPOKEN) Word and the (SPOKEN) Word was with Elohim and the (SPOKEN) Word was Elohim.
All things were made through Him(SPOKEN WORD), and without Him(SPOKEN WORD) nothing was made that was made. In Him(SPOKEN WORD) was life, and the life was the light of men

He is the image of the invisible Elohim, the firstborn over all creation.
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.

Friend = Pray that your eyes may be opened to SEE His Glory

Looks good.

 

[theefaith]

No, it is a different story.

The Bible is not interpreted via "principle".

you don’t accept biblical principles?
What about types and figures?

 

[David in NJ]

you don’t accept biblical principles?
What about types and figures?

What do you believe the symbolic nature and meaning of this passage from revelation means: Revelation 12:1

Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars.

 

[EloyCraft]

Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars.

A woman clothed with the sun( she is glorifed)
The moon under her feet.( Her body isn't subject to change )
And on her head a garland of 12 stars a( she is queen of apostles )