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This is what blasphemy is.

LOL...un no....your irrelevant unsolicited opinion.

Job 1:
21: ...THE LORD GAVE...

Prov 2:
6: ...the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

2 Tim 2:
7:...[7] Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.

EXPRESSLY FOR YOU...
Prov 3:
[5] Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
 

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LOL...un no....your irrelevant unsolicited opinion.

Job 1:
21: ...THE LORD GAVE...

Prov 2:
6: ...the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

2 Tim 2:
7:...[7] Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.

EXPRESSLY FOR YOU...
Prov 3:
[5] Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
“Trust” is “thine own understanding”.

Where is “trust”?
Try to point to “it”.

It’s a belief.
 

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What I believe has been stated.
I’m not suggesting there’s anything wrong per se with beliefs.
I’m just pointing out that these are beliefs, and sharing that there is absolute truth, prior to all beliefs.
 

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I’m not suggesting there’s anything wrong per se with beliefs.
I’m just pointing out that these are beliefs, and sharing that there is absolute truth, prior to all beliefs.
What you are pointing out with your comments is me telling you my beliefs, is not understood by you, gibberish to you.

No issue, No effect on me.
I know what I hear, learn, study, believe, understand.......AND WHY.

What you believe or understand has no effect on me.
I have no clue what you hear, learn, study, believe or understand...OR WHY.

@Truth7t7 is quick to accuse anyone not in agreement with him...therefore they must have a “fairytale” gospel.

That IS a lying accusation, (for a supposed claimant of being a Christian, to promote Scripture as a “fairytale”)... since I have clearly said my SOURCE which gives credence to my Belief is Gods Word and my SOURCE for which I understand Gods Word ... IS God Himself.
 

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As you said, it’s what you believe. There’s no issue or problem here, as that belief isn’t believed here.

Big of you to share your psychic abilities and authority to speak for all on this forum.
 

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What you are pointing out with your comments is me telling you my beliefs, is not understood by you, gibberish to you.
Not, it’s not “gibberish”, it’s beliefs. There is nothing wrong with beliefs.

No issue, No effect on me.
I know what I hear, learn, study, believe, understand.......AND WHY.
”I know” is a belief.
Shared, it’s fundamental blasphemy and dishonesty.
And there’s nothing wrong with that!
Ignorance is innocence.

What you believe or understand has no effect on me.
Exactly!
Cause they’re just beliefs.
Understanding is a belief.

I have no clue what you hear, learn, study, believe or understand...OR WHY.
Nothing!
I am!

@Truth7t7 is quick to accuse anyone not in agreement with him...therefore they must have a “fairytale” gospel.

That IS a lying accusation, (for a supposed claimant of being a Christian, to promote Scripture as a “fairytale”)... since I have clearly said my SOURCE which gives credence to my Belief is Gods Word and my SOURCE for which I understand Gods Word ... IS God Himself.
No, that’s still beliefs.

Big of you to share your psychic abilities and authority to speak for all on this forum.
Lol! Nothing “psychic“ about it. It’s just beliefs. No one else shares your beliefs, as someone else is a belief.
 

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Where has in detail been answered. His Kingdom, Abrahams Promised Land.
His Place of conducting His Governing Authority, Jerusalem.

I suppose He can literally sit any place He pleases.
His Throne is parallel to an Office of Authority.
King of His city Jerusalem.
King of His Kingdom Abraham’s Promised Land.
King over All kings of All nations upon the face of the earth.
You have a glorified eternal Jesus Christ, sitting on a earthly throne in Jerusalem, amongst mortal humans that are dying around him

That's a big fairy tale
 
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@Truth7t7 is quick to accuse anyone not in agreement with him...therefore they must have a “fairytale” gospel.

That IS a lying accusation, (for a supposed claimant of being a Christian, to promote Scripture as a “fairytale”)... since I have clearly said my SOURCE which gives credence to my Belief is Gods Word and my SOURCE for which I understand Gods Word ... IS God Himself.
A Millennial Kingdom on this earth isn't found in scripture, it would be those teaching there is as being the "Liars" in adding to scripture

Jesus Is The Lord
 
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@Truth7t7

Amen!

In Jesus name, Amen.

It’s so obvious!

Not Jesus’s name, not Jesus’s name Manymen, not Jesus name Aman - Amen!
One.
And not even.
 

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Not, it’s not “gibberish”, it’s beliefs. There is nothing wrong with beliefs.


”I know” is a belief.
Shared, it’s fundamental blasphemy and dishonesty.
And there’s nothing wrong with that!
Ignorance is innocence.


Exactly!
Cause they’re just beliefs.
Understanding is a belief.


Nothing!
I am!


No, that’s still beliefs.


Lol! Nothing “psychic“ about it. It’s just beliefs. No one else shares your beliefs, as someone else is a belief.

Belief is simply a thought/idea an individual is willing to Lean on, Be in agreement.

You can LISTEN to all kinds of individuals “REASONS” of who, what they are in agreement WITH.

Routinely, people on this forum, QUOTE, preachers, popes, each other, AND express their AGREEMENT. Some even go so far as to...QUOTE for example A PROTESTANT preacher, and demand you must agree with THEM, because that one may have said they are a PROTESTANT.

Christianity has ONE Basic Format....following along with Jesus’ Teachings..
(To the EXTENT that one following BELIEVES Jesus’ Teachings)...

And NOT NEWS...not everyone FOLLOWING along Jesus’ Teachings...
BELIEVES every word that Jesus spoke.

We have examples, by, through, of Jesus’ own expressly chosen Disciples...
Believing, Doubting, Denying and Murmuring doubt among themselves.

No different TODAY. Individuals believing SOME of Jesus’ Teachings, doubting SOME of Jesus’ Teachings, denying SOME of Jesus’ Teachings, SOME murmuring doubt of Jesus’ Teaching amongst men...CONTINUES.

Personally I have exercised my Freewill and chosen to BELIEVE every Word Jesus Taught...WITHOUT DOUBT.

And not a BIG MYSTERY, much of what Jesus Taught, IS Beyond the comprehension of a MANS LOGICAL THINKING and CONCLUDING CARNAL MIND.

But then FACTUALLY, Not once did Jesus Teach He came TO:
Restore, Save, Convert, Quicken, Birth Again...a mans Carnal Mind.

PERSPECTIVE.
 

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Belief is simply a thought/idea an individual is willing to Lean on, Be in agreement.
’Individual’ is a thought, believed.
Exactly like unicorn.

You can LISTEN to all kinds of individuals “REASONS” of who, what they are in agreement WITH.

Routinely, people on this forum, QUOTE, preachers, popes, each other, AND express their AGREEMENT. Some even go so far as to...QUOTE for example A PROTESTANT preacher, and demand you must agree with THEM, because that one may have said they are a PROTESTANT.
’Individual’ is a thought, believed.

Christianity has ONE Basic Format....following along with Jesus’ Teachings..
(To the EXTENT that one following BELIEVES Jesus’ Teachings)...
’Individual’ is a thought, believed.

And NOT NEWS...not everyone FOLLOWING along Jesus’ Teachings...
BELIEVES every word that Jesus spoke.
’Individual’ is a thought, believed.

We have examples, by, through, of Jesus’ own expressly chosen Disciples...
Believing, Doubting, Denying and Murmuring doubt among themselves.
’Individual’ is a thought, believed.

No different TODAY. Individuals believing SOME of Jesus’ Teachings, doubting SOME of Jesus’ Teachings, denying SOME of Jesus’ Teachings, SOME murmuring doubt of Jesus’ Teaching amongst men...CONTINUES.

Personally I have exercised my Freewill and chosen to BELIEVE every Word Jesus Taught...WITHOUT DOUBT.

And not a BIG MYSTERY, much of what Jesus Taught, IS Beyond the comprehension of a MANS LOGICAL THINKING and CONCLUDING CARNAL MIND.

But then FACTUALLY, Not once did Jesus Teach He came TO:
Restore, Save, Convert, Quicken, Birth Again...a mans Carnal Mind.

PERSPECTIVE.
’Individual’ is a thought, believed.

There is only to notice the truth of what’s said in direct experience.
Freedom, liberation from “the matrix” of “mind”.


There’s Nothing wrong with beliefs!
There’s no one ‘there’ to defend!
Rejoice!
I am!
 

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A Millennial Kingdom on this earth isn't found in scripture, it would be those teaching there is as being the "Liars" in adding to scripture

Jesus Is The Lord
You have a glorified eternal Jesus Christ, sitting on a earthly throne in Jerusalem, amongst mortal humans that are dying around him

That's a big fairy tale

Perhaps you have missed the teachings...OF HIS TIMES.
I have not SEEN you give YOUR belief of WHO ARE the “kings” OVER WHICH the King shall rule.

Perhaps you could ELABORATE. Who are the “kings” over which IN HIS TIMES...the KIng shall rule?

Perhaps you could ELABORATE. When are “HIS TIMES”....that King shall rule over other kings?

1Tim.6

  1. [15] Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

Rev.17

  1. [14] These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, andKing of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Rev.19

  1. [16] And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS
 

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What do you believe about the Rapture? Is a simple question.
The response can be very detailed and lengthy.
What a load of gibberish that makes no sense.
Now the Demand. Give to me every Biblical Reference for your Belief.

What I believe has been stated.
There is NO expectation for you to believe as I do, when it is OBVIOUS you have NOT done as I HAVE DONE.

Why expect ME to read, study, learn, ponder, study some more, Ask God for His Understanding...........FOR YOU?

Satan himself IS expressly learned in Gods Word....YET he LACKS Understanding of Gods Word...

Scripture is a text of Knowledge...You read it, You study it, You choose to believe it or not.
You want the Understanding of the Knowledge ? You ask God!
IF
you are NOT Committed TO the Lord God... Expect NO ANSWER.

Then you can join the ranks of those WHO accuse God of His Truths, Knowledge, Words are gibberish nonsense.

The Fact is; WHEN you DO NOT UNDERSTAND (regarding ANY Knowledge), the KNOWLEDGE will NOT make sense to YOU.

The Fact is: WHEN you DO UNDERSTAND (Any) Knowledge, it’s called WISDOM.

The Fact is: ONLY God gives another HIS UNDERSTANDING of HIS KNOWLEDGE.

You have spend multiple posts whining about wanting an ANSWER to YOUR SIMPLE QUESTION....Since your SIMPLE QUESTION is so pressing but has been over run by your whining.....

REPEAT your SIMPLE QUESTION, and I will give you a SIMPLE ANSWER.

More avoidance. More gibberish. No one is here to take lectures from you. Address the theological issues or we will just ignore you.

Where in Scripture teaches a rapture of the Church, followed by seven-year tribulation, followed by a third coming of the Lord?

Either cough up or shut up.
 

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What do you believe about the Rapture? Is a simple question.
The response can be very detailed and lengthy.
What a load of gibberish that makes no sense.
Now the Demand. Give to me every Biblical Reference for your Belief.

What I believe has been stated.
There is NO expectation for you to believe as I do, when it is OBVIOUS you have NOT done as I HAVE DONE.

Why expect ME to read, study, learn, ponder, study some more, Ask God for His Understanding...........FOR YOU?

Satan himself IS expressly learned in Gods Word....YET he LACKS Understanding of Gods Word...

Scripture is a text of Knowledge...You read it, You study it, You choose to believe it or not.
You want the Understanding of the Knowledge ? You ask God!
IF
you are NOT Committed TO the Lord God... Expect NO ANSWER.

Then you can join the ranks of those WHO accuse God of His Truths, Knowledge, Words are gibberish nonsense.

The Fact is; WHEN you DO NOT UNDERSTAND (regarding ANY Knowledge), the KNOWLEDGE will NOT make sense to YOU.

The Fact is: WHEN you DO UNDERSTAND (Any) Knowledge, it’s called WISDOM.

The Fact is: ONLY God gives another HIS UNDERSTANDING of HIS KNOWLEDGE.

You have spend multiple posts whining about wanting an ANSWER to YOUR SIMPLE QUESTION....Since your SIMPLE QUESTION is so pressing but has been over run by your whining.....

REPEAT your SIMPLE QUESTION, and I will give you a SIMPLE ANSWER.

The second coming brings a close to the day of salvation. Repeated Scripture shows that now is the only day of salvation. After showing us the destruction of this earth, the works that are in it, the heavens, the elements when Jesus comes, and after describing the longsuffering of God in the days of Noah before the destruction of all the wicked, Peter responds to the mockers scoffing at the apparent delay in Christ's return: “the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation” (2 Peter 3:15). See also Romans 2:4. He was reaffirming that salvation is limited to this side of the second coming. A sign of the end is that the Gospel must “be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come" (Matthew 24:14). The second coming brings the curtain down on the great commission. Once the ark door closes it is too late (Matthew 25:10-13, 28:19-20 and Act 3:19-21).

The age to come has no room for "mortals" (Luke 20:34-36, Romans 8:19-23, 1 Corinthians 15:50-55 and Revelation 21-22) or the unregenerate (Psalm 37:9-11, Luke 17:26-30, 1 Corinthians 6:9, I Thessalonians 5:2-3, 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10). This would be a strong argument to me that the second coming is “the end.”

John 6:39-44, 54, John 11:21-27, John 12:48, Ephesians 1:10 and Revelation 10:5-7 would seem to suggest that time reaches its fullness at the climactic return of Christ. This would be a strong argument to me that the second coming is “the end.”

Luke 20:34-36, Acts 3:19-21, Romans 8:19-23, 1 Corinthians 15:50-55 ,1 Peter 1:3-5 and Revelation 21:1-5 all show that the end of the bondage of corruption occurs when Jesus comes. This would be a strong argument to me that the second coming is “the end.”

1 Corinthians 13:12, Ephesians 4:13 and Revelation 10:5-7 show that the curtain coming down on the mystery of God, thus confirming we are at the end of time and entering into eternity when all will finally be revealed. This would be a strong argument to me that the second coming is “the end.”

Repeated Scripture locates the replacement of the current heavens and earth with the new heavens and earth and incorruption at the second coming. Job 14:12-14, Isaiah 13:9-11, Isaiah 34:1-4, 8, Isaiah 65:17-21, Isaiah 66:22-24, Joel 2:3, Joel 2:10-11, Malachi 4:1-3, Matthew 24:29-30, Matthew 24:35-44, Mark 13:24-26, Luke 21:25-27, Romans 8:18-23, 1 Corinthians 15:23-24, 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, 2 Peter 3:10-13, Hebrews 1:10-12, Revelation 6:13-17, Revelation 16:15-20, Revelation 19:11-16 and Revelation 20:11-15 shows us that this occurs at the second coming. This is indeed the end of time, the end of corruption, the end of the wicked, the end of sin, the end of death, the end for the devil. It is the beginning of eternity. It is the beginning of perfection. It is the beginning of incorruption. It is the beginning of a new arrangement.

It seems like whatever angle you examine the second coming it appears to be climactic, final and glorious.
 
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More avoidance. More gibberish. No one is here to take lectures from you. Address the theological issues or we will just ignore you.

Where in Scripture teaches a rapture of the Church, followed by seven-year tribulation, followed by a third coming of the Lord?

Either cough up or shut up.


Already had this discussion. Rapture and Tribulation are TWO different TOPICS.... a supposed THIRD coming is yet another TOPIC.

No, I will NOT answer your JUMBLED Question....Nor will I read FOR you concerning EACH TOPIC....

And No, you have not governing power over me that I must stop speaking!
 

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Already had this discussion. Rapture and Tribulation are TWO different TOPICS.... a supposed THIRD coming is yet another TOPIC.

No, I will NOT answer your JUMBLED Question....Nor will I read FOR you concerning EACH TOPIC....

And No, you have not governing power over me that I must stop speaking!

Everyone knows why you will not provide us with a proof text for your beliefs. That is because you do not have one. It is a man-made Jesuit doctrine that must be taught to you. You would never find it of yourself.

Until you bring something of substance it is pointless engaging with you. I will ignore the gibberish you write. It is unintelligible and horrible grammar.