14 IRRESOLVABLE CONTRADICTIONS WHICH RESULT FROM A LITERAL RICH MAN AND LAZARUS

[Spiritual Israelite]

Primarily agree…

Disagree…about your Parable comment.
Yes Jesus taught in Parablrs. A story style of Teaching.

When did I say He didn't? Nowhere. I just said that Luke 16:19-31 isn't a parable. Do you think it is? His parables were fictional stories that He told to teach truth about reality. But, Luke 16:19-31 He refers to real people and places, so it's not a parable.

Jesus expressly revealed He IS the TRUTH…
Does it matter what word describes His “style / manner” of teaching ?
A Tale, a bed time Story ?? No.
He that IS the Truth can only Speak the Truth…
To deny, to argue against, is to proclaim Jesus could and did speak what is NOT True.

What are you even talking about here? I never said otherwise. You just had to come up with something to disagree with me about because that's just the way you are.

Your comment about “People”.
A Person, is a mankind of Living Being with a living soul in his body.
Body’s with out its soul in it is no longer a person.
( dead body’s are not called persons/people).

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. You deny that the souls of believers go to heaven when we die? Do you believe in soul sleep?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Paul never believed that good people would go to heaven before being resurrected.

1 Cor. 15:16 For if the dead are not to be raised up, neither has Christ been raised up. 17 Further, if Christ has not been raised up, your faith is useless; you remain in your sins. 18 Then also those who have fallen asleep in death in union with Christ have perished. 19 If in this life only we have hoped in Christ, we are to be pitied more than anyone.

As seen in the quoted passage, it is said of the dead that they have fallen asleep ... and this is not the only passage of the Scriptures saying that about dead people.

He was only talking about their bodies being asleep/dead. You need to differentiate between the body, soul and spirit. Paul also taught that to be absent or away from the body is to be present with the Lord (2 Corinthians 5:6-8), so how do you reconcile your belief with that?

2 Corinthians 5:6 Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord. 7 For we live by faith, not by sight. 8 We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord.

 

[Taken]

When did I say He didn't? Nowhere. I just said that Luke 16:19-31 isn't a parable. Do you think it is?

Yes.

His parables were fictional stories that He told to teach truth about reality.

Disagree.

Parables in a mans CARNAL understanding…
Is a “story, rhyme, fable, tale, even jokes; in a style and manner of speaking “as a story”.

The story typically has a “moral Lesson” about Life, Death, circumstances, situations, religion, family, governance, etc.

Some people Believe, a Parable MUST Be Ficticous, to Be a “Carnally understood Parable”.

Likely Some “parables people Tell are based on real people and others are based on fictitious people.”

Scripturally, I could care less WHAT the manner of Speech is Called…
If the Speaker IS JESUS….(AKA the TRUTH) … I trust EVERY word He spoke IS TRUE.

You have to come to your own belief and terms, of why Jesus would make up Lies to make a Moral point.

You deny that the souls of believers go to heaven when we die?

Odd…
Saying “you deny” begins a statement, ending with a question mark is improper.

Are you asking or telling me what I deny?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Yes.

Disagree.

Parables in a mans CARNAL understanding…
Is a “story, rhyme, fable, tale, even jokes; in a style and manner of speaking “as a story”.

The story typically has a “moral Lesson” about Life, Death, circumstances, situations, religion, family, governance, etc.

Some people Believe, a Parable MUST Be Ficticous, to Be a “Carnally understood Parable”.

Likely Some “parables people Tell are based on real people and others are based on fictitious people.”

Scripturally, I could care less WHAT the manner of Speech is Called…
If the Speaker IS JESUS….(AKA the TRUTH) … I trust EVERY word He spoke IS TRUE.

You have to come to your own belief and terms, of why Jesus would make up Lies to make a Moral point.

Explain your last statement here. What lies do you think I'm saying Jesus told in Luke 16:19-31? Regardless of whether you consider it to be a parable or not, He clearly indicated that people are conscious in heaven and hell. Do you deny that?

Odd…
Saying “you deny” begins a statement, ending with a question mark is improper.

Are you asking or telling me what I deny?

The question mark should have been enough to tell you I was asking a question. I'm asking if you deny that the souls of believers go to heaven when they die?

 

[Jack]

Rev 20 They will be tormented day and night FOREVER!

Amen Jesus!

 

[Taken]

Explain your last statement here. What lies do you think I'm saying Jesus told in Luke 16:19-31? Regardless of whether you consider it to be a parable or not, He clearly indicated that people are conscious in heaven and hell. Do you deny that?

You indicated you thought Luk 16:19-31 was a factious story.

I believe it is absolute Truth.

You keep repeating People Go to hell or Heaven.

No. Dead body’s go to their grave.

Living souls, departed out of Dead Bodys go to heaven or hell.

You think souls require EYES to See.
No. Living souls require SIGHT to See.
It is Body’s that Require EYES to See.

The question mark should have been enough to tell you I was asking a question.

Asking a question is not only the pun toon mark…
It also Is the words Actually Asking…not stating.

I'm asking if you deny that the souls of believers go to heaven when they die?

Yes, and I have said nothing to the contrary for you to wonder.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You indicated you thought Luk 16:19-31 was a factious story.

I believe it is absolute Truth.

That is absolutely false. Where did you get that idea that I was saying it isn't a true story? I'm not. I'm just saying it's not a parable because Jesus's parables contained fictitious people and places that represented things in reality.

You keep repeating People Go to hell or Heaven.

No. Dead body’s go to their grave.

Hello? I didn't say otherwise. But, what about people's souls and spirits? Jesus said the rich man was in hell, so why wouldn't you believe that?

Living souls, departed out of Dead Bodys go to heaven or hell.

Yes, exactly. That's what I'm saying. You have terrible reading comprehension skills.

You think souls require EYES to See.

No, I do not. I never said that.

No. Living souls require SIGHT to See.
It is Body’s that Require EYES to See.

Exactly.

 

[Taken]

That is absolutely false. Where did you get that idea that I was saying it isn't a true story? I'm not.

I'm just saying it's not a parable because Jesus's parables contained fictitious people and places that represented things in reality.

It was a teaching from Jesus…thus it is. parable.
There were no fictious Living souls IN having a Conversation.

Jesus called their souls BY Name.
Jesus can Not Lie .

Hello? I didn't say otherwise. But, what about people's souls and spirits?

I have taken indepth about souls and spirits of men.

Jesus said the rich man was in hell, so why wouldn't you believe that?

WHO said I didn’t believe that? I didn’t.
Men bury dead body’s.
Men do Not bury dead body’s in Hell!
Hell is a temporary place for Departed Living souls OF mens Dead Body’s.

Yes, exactly. That's what I'm saying. You have terrible reading comprehension skills.

I would rather stumble with reading skills, than stumble along without Understanding, as you do.

Living souls
(departed out of their dead and buried)
body’s were having a conversation IN Hell.

Jesus was Teaching a Lesson…
Once a mans Body is Dead… and buried…there is NO forgiveness Offered For his unsaved Soul.
His departed living soul shall suffer torments…utter discomfort being divided from God, nor have the possibility to Be Soul saved and Spirit quickened and Body Glorified.

At the end of Days of human existence (mans life being blood)… lifeless unsaved souls and their lifeless body’s shall be destroyed and forgotten.
Final destiny.

Mean time…no living Souls are without Gods Life…wether or not such souls are IN their living body, or departed Out of their dead body’s….life will Not depart or remain forever In a soul…
Until Judgement!

 

[soberxp]

如果有那么一个富人真的去建造一个足够大的针，并且让骆驼穿过针孔。他能进入天国吗？

所以，这是比喻呢还是具体的事情。

但是，我搜索了整个网络，我发现没有一个人真正的建造了一个真正的巨大的针，要么是半个，要么没有针尖，总之就是没有一个人。

富人不会因为他们认为没有利益的事情去做一件事情。

If there is a rich man really to build a big enough needle, and let the camel through the needle hole. Can he enter the kingdom of heaven?

So, is this a metaphor or a specific thing.

However, I searched the whole network and I found that no one had actually built a really huge needle, either half or no needle tip, There's no one.

Rich people don't do a thing because they think it's not profitable.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

It was a teaching from Jesus…thus it is. parable.

Only in the most technical sense, but in that sense it would be a true parable/story, unlike the made up stories in His other parables.

There were no fictious Living souls IN having a Conversation.

Right. I never said otherwise.

Jesus called their souls BY Name.
Jesus can Not Lie .

Who said He would? Who are you even talking to here? Can't be me since I never said otherwise from what you're saying.

I have taken indepth about souls and spirits of men.

WHO said I didn’t believe that? I didn’t.

I didn't say you didn't believe that, either. That's why I asked because I didn't know what you believed about that.

Men bury dead body’s.
Men do Not bury dead body’s in Hell!

Hello? Who said they do? What is the name of the straw man you're arguing with here?

Hell is a temporary place for Departed Living souls OF mens Dead Body’s.

I agree. Did you somehow think I didn't?

I would rather stumble with reading skills, than stumble along without Understanding, as you do.

LOL. Your lack of reading comprehension skills has caused you to argue with me about this topic that we agree about for no reason.

Living souls
(departed out of their dead and buried)
body’s were having a conversation IN Hell.

Right.

Jesus was Teaching a Lesson…
Once a mans Body is Dead… and buried…there is NO forgiveness Offered For his unsaved Soul.

Right.

His departed living soul shall suffer torments…utter discomfort being divided from God, nor have the possibility to Be Soul saved and Spirit quickened and Body Glorified.

Right.

At the end of Days of human existence (mans life being blood)… lifeless unsaved souls and their lifeless body’s shall be destroyed and forgotten.
Final destiny.

Where does scripture teach this? Instead, I see eternal torment as their destiny, according to scriptures like this one...

Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Mean time…no living Souls are without Gods Life…wether or not such souls are IN their living body, or departed Out of their dead body’s….life will Not depart or remain forever In a soul…
Until Judgement!

Right.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

如果有那么一个富人真的去建造一个足够大的针，并且让骆驼穿过针孔。他能进入天国吗？

所以，这是比喻呢还是具体的事情。

但是，我搜索了整个网络，我发现没有一个人真正的建造了一个真正的巨大的针，要么是半个，要么没有针尖，总之就是没有一个人。

富人不会因为他们认为没有利益的事情去做一件事情。

If there is a rich man really to build a big enough needle, and let the camel through the needle hole. Can he enter the kingdom of heaven?

So, is this a metaphor or a specific thing.

However, I searched the whole network and I found that no one had actually built a really huge needle, either half or no needle tip, There's no one.

Rich people don't do a thing because they think it's not profitable.

Jesus was using hyperbole there (exaggerating - talking about something that is literally impossible) to illustrate that with man certain things are impossible, but not with God.

 

[Taken]

Only in the most technical sense, but in that sense it would be a true parable/story, B] unlike the made up stories in His other parables.[/B]

Huh? No way!

His “Teaching” in Parables ARE NOT EVER Fictious Stories.

He IS the TRUTH, He can NOT LIE…!!

He can NOT Speak what is NOT TRUE!

Speaking what IS NOT TRUE IS A LIE!

You seem concerned about WHAT his Speech / teaching I’d Called.

Matt 13:
[34] All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:

The WHY…
Is so They who know He is the Truth, Will believe Every word He Spoke.

While others …who know Not the Truth, will walk about believing He is Simply A story teller of Fiction.

One Speech…
and Individuals either Believe every Word is TRUE…and give them insight / a Lesson, to What occurs in Hell, regarding unsaved souls.
Or
Ignore and think he tells factious stories, that do not concern them.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Huh? No way!

His “Teaching” in Parables ARE NOT EVER Fictious Stories.

He IS the TRUTH, He can NOT LIE…!!

There is something seriously wrong with you. You are COMPLETELY misunderstanding me, but I don't know why. Maybe you just have horrible reading comprehension skills. Anyway, I am NOT saying that Jesus is not speaking truth in his parables. Hello? Wake up. Why would I do that? No, what I'm saying is that Jesus makes up stories in His parables which illustrate truth. What is wrong with saying that? Take this short parable, for instance. I picked a short one to make it a bit easier to illustrate my point.

Matthew 13:47 “Once again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was let down into the lake and caught all kinds of fish. 48 When it was full, the fishermen pulled it up on the shore. Then they sat down and collected the good fish in baskets, but threw the bad away. 49 This is how it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous 50 and throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Do you think Jesus is telling a true story here about an actual net that was let down into the lake and caught all kinds of fish? That would have to be one giant net in that case. Do you think this is referring to real fishermen who pulled the net up to shore and then collected the good fish in baskets and threw the bad away? Or do you believe that Jesus made this story up to illustrate the truth that the angels will come at the end of the age and separate the wicked, who are represented by the bad fish in the parable, from the righteous who are represented by the good fish in the parable?

He can NOT Speak what is NOT TRUE!

Of course. Where did I say otherwise? Why do you no reading comprehension skills whatsoever? It's cause you to make a complete fool of yourself by falsely claiming that I'm saying Jesus told lies, which I am not claiming at all. To make up a story that illustrate truth in reality is not a case of lying. Do you understand that? Or are you just not able to understand simple things?

Speaking what IS NOT TRUE IS A LIE!

Did I say otherwise? No, of course I didn't. So, why are you acting as if I did? You're getting all upset about nothing here because I'm not doing what you think I'm doing.

You seem concerned about WHAT his Speech / teaching I’d Called.

No, I'm not. You are the one who is unhinged simply because I'm saying He made up stories to illustrate TRUTH in REALITY. Despite my saying that, you are falsely accusing me of saying that Jesus was lying, which is utterly ridiculous.

Matt 13:
[34] All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:

The WHY…
Is so They who know He is the Truth, Will believe Every word He Spoke.

Right.

While others …who know Not the Truth, will walk about believing He is Simply A story teller of Fiction.

He told parables that themselves were fiction, but they illustrated truth in reality (non-fiction). So, what He was teaching is true and I'm not saying otherwise. I'm simply saying that the fishermen and the net He referenced in His parable from Matthew 13:47-50 do not refer to any actual fishermen or net in real life, but is a story He made up to illustrate truth in real life.

One Speech…
and Individuals either Believe every Word is TRUE…and give them insight / a Lesson, to What occurs in Hell, regarding unsaved souls.
Or
Ignore and think he tells factious stories, that do not concern them.

Again, I believe that what He talked about in Luke 16:19-31 related to real people and places. However, in His parables like the one from Matthew 13:47-50, it does not refer to real fishermen or a real net or any certain fish in reality. That made up story illustrates the truth of how the angels will come and gather all of the wicked and righteous, but the righteous will be cast into a furnace of fire where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

 

[Taken]

There is something seriously wrong with you. You are COMPLETELY misunderstanding me,

I understood what you said … and responded.

“unlike the made up stories in His other parables”.

but I don't know why.

Read what you said.

Maybe you just have horrible reading comprehension skills. Anyway, I am NOT saying that Jesus is not speaking truth in his parables. Hello? Wake up. Why would I do that?

Made-up stories, are Not Truths!

No, what I'm saying is that Jesus makes up stories …

Exactly! I disagree.

Matthew 13:47 “Once again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was let down into the lake and caught all kinds of fish. 48 When it was full, the fishermen pulled it up on the shore. Then they sat down and collected the good fish in baskets, but threw the bad away. 49 This is how it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous 50 and throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Do you think Jesus is telling a true story here about an actual net that was let down into the lake and caught all kinds of fish?

Yes.
Are you unaware… Jesus chose men to follow and learn from him…
WHO,…cast out their nets into the water and hauled in fish!

That would have to be one giant net in that case. Do you think this is referring to real fishermen who pulled the net up to shore and then collected the good fish in baskets and threw the bad away?

Sure.
Not all in the net would be suitable to eat.

Or do you believe that Jesus made this story up

No.

the truth that the angels will come at the end of the age and separate the wicked,

Yes.

who are represented by the bad fish in the parable, from the righteous who are represented by the good fish in the parable?

The bad fish are dead fish.
The good fish are alive fish.

Of course. Where did I say otherwise? Why do you no reading comprehension skills whatsoever?

I am quite capable of understanding , your repetative claims, Jesus made up stories…which means (to you) that Jesus spoke things that were not True (Aka “made up”), while (oxymoron), claiming Jesus only spoke the Truth.!

It's cause you to make a complete fool of yourself by falsely claiming that I'm saying Jesus told lies,

I am not the one Trying to convince you…
Truth = made up stories..
Made up stories = the Truth.

Made up stories ARE NOT factual Truths!!

To make up a story that illustrate truth in reality is not a case of lying.

You may be able to convince Your Carnal Mind “reality” of your Statement…

However it is NOT a Spiritual Truth.
And lest you forget, the Carnal Mind is AGAINST God! (Rom 8:7)

Do you understand that? Or are you just not able to understand simple things?

Now that’s funny!! Being you are the one preaching A made up story, is the same as the Truth.

You are the one who is unhinged simply because I'm saying He made up stories to illustrate TRUTH in REALITY. Despite my saying that, you are falsely accusing me of saying that Jesus was lying, which is utterly ridiculous.

I’m in disagreement with you.
If that is “unhinged”…apply that to yourself, since you are in disagreement with me.

Bottom line…I’m in agreement with Gods Word / Jesus…

He told parables that themselves were fiction, but

Jesus the Truth, taught FICTION…?
Wow…

Utterly False.

I disagree with you.
i agree with Jesus.

John 14:
[6] Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Jesus NEVER said…I am the factious story teller…as you attempt to speak For Jesus.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I understood what you said … and responded.

“unlike the made up stories in His other parables”.

No, you haven't understood a word I've said so far. You just quote that part and leave out the multiple times I've said that the made up stories reflect truth in reality.

Read what you said.

Made-up stories, are Not Truths!

They can illustrate the truth, which is what I'm saying His parables do. Why can't you understand such a simple point? You are acting as if what He was teaching in His parables wasn't truth and I'm not saying that at all.

Yes.
Are you unaware… Jesus chose men to follow and learn from him…
WHO,…cast out their nets into the water and hauled in fish!

Sure.
Not all in the net would be suitable to eat.

What is wrong with you? You actually think that the parable of the fishing net really happened or will happen? I'm talking about the parable itself, not what it represents. You think there were or will be actual fishermen who somehow catch literally all fish and will somehow bring all fish to the shore? How can you think that's something that will literally happen? No, it's not something that will literally happen. It represents what will literally happen, which is that the angels will gather all people and separate them into a group of the righteous and a group of the wicked with the wicked being cast into a furnace of fire where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

The bad fish are dead fish.
The good fish are alive fish.

That's what they represent in the parable, yes, but the parable is not talking about an actual event where all fish will be caught. LOL. You are clueless.

I am quite capable of understanding , your repetative claims, Jesus made up stories…which means (to you) that Jesus spoke things that were not True (Aka “made up”), while (oxymoron), claiming Jesus only spoke the Truth.!

That is not what I'm saying! You have to be completely lacking in discernment to think that's what I'm saying. The lessons He taught with His parables were all true and I've said that multiple times! Yet, here you are foolishly and falsely claiming that I said He spoke things that were not true. You need help.

I am not the one Trying to convince you…
Truth = made up stories..

The stories reflect truth. How many times do I have to tell you that? Yet, you keep trying to say that I'm claiming that the stories are lies. You have no reading comprehension skills whatsoever. You interpret my words as poorly as you usually interpret scripture, which is really saying something.

Now that’s funny!! Being you are the one preaching A made up story, is the same as the Truth.

It illustrates the truth! What is wrong with you? If you can't understand the simple concept of making up a story that illustrates truth in reality, then what can you understand?

Bottom line…I’m in agreement with Gods Word / Jesus…

So am I. You are the one falsely representing what I believe. I believe that Jesus's parables are true and you're lying and trying to say otherwise. You are just completely misunderstanding what I'm saying about the parables themselves while ignoring that I'm saying they all illustrate truth.

Jesus the Truth, taught FICTION…?

That is not what I said at all! No, everything He taught is true, of course. You're completely misunderstanding what I'm saying. You have the worst reading comprehension skills I've ever seen in my life.

 

[Taken]

No, you haven't understood a word I've said so far. You just quote that part and leave out the multiple times I've said that the made up stories reflect truth in reality.

Exactly! You said it. I acknowledged it.
I disagree with you.

* “made up stories ARE NOT TRUE.”

* Jesus AKA “The TRUTH”. Did NOT “make up” stories.

* Everything Jesus Spoke Was TRUE!

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[Spiritual Israelite]

Exactly! You said it. I acknowledged it.
I disagree with you.

But, what do you disagree with exactly? You disagree that a made up story can illustrate truth in reality?

* “made up stories ARE NOT TRUE.”

Right, but they can illustrate truth, can't they? Yes or no. If you answer "Yes" then you actually agree with the point I've been trying to make. But, you have so far misunderstood my point because of you utterly horrible reading comprehension skills.

* Jesus AKA “The TRUTH”. Did NOT “make up” stories.

He made up stories that reflect TRUTH, which means the lesson He was teaching with those stories was TRUE and I'm not saying otherwise. Understand?

* Everything Jesus Spoke Was TRUE!

I have not said otherwise. Using a made up story to illustrate TRUTH is just one way of speaking what is TRUE. If you can't understand something this simple, then I wonder if you understand anything at all.

Tell me, in the parable of the wise and foolish virgins in Matthew 25:1-13, is Jesus referring to literally five certain wise virgins that live in the world somewhere and literally five foolish virgins that are out there somewhere who are literally carrying lamps with them and so on? You would say that is a true story that will actually happen literally as written? Or was Jesus just illustrating something in that parable about two different kinds of people in the world, rather than about 10 certain, actual people somewhere, in relation to His second coming?

 

[Taken]

But, what do you disagree with exactly? You disagree that a made up story can illustrate truth in reality?

No. i do not disagree, that “made up stories Can illustrate the Truth.

I disagree with you, that JESUS “made up stories”!!

He made up stories that reflect TRUTH, which means the lesson He was teaching with those stories was TRUE and I'm not saying otherwise. Understand?

I understand “made up stories can illustrate the Truth.”

What you are overlooking, is Jesus, did Not “make up “ (non-Truths), to make His point!

I have not said otherwise. Using a made up story to illustrate TRUTH is just one way of speaking what is TRUE.

Made up means …
invented, fabricated. NOT True!

If you can't understand something this simple, then I wonder if you understand anything at all.

Do you understand…?

1 Pet 2:
[22] Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:

Tell me, in the parable of the wise and foolish virgins in Matthew 25:1-13, is Jesus referring to literally five certain wise virgins that live in the world somewhere and literally five foolish virgins that are out there somewhere who are literally carrying lamps with them and so on?

Again…You Wonder, if Jesus said things that were invented, fabricated, Not True.

Again…No He did Not.

Again…Every word Jesus Spoke was True!

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

No. i do not disagree, that “made up stories Can illustrate the Truth.

I disagree with you, that JESUS “made up stories”!!

What in the world is wrong with you?

You agree that "made up stories can illustrate the truth" and that is what I'm saying Jesus did. Yet, you still disagree with me! How do you explain that?

You come across as if you believe that the parables Jesus told were all true stories that really happened or will happen. Is that what you believe? So, for example, you would then say that the five wise virgins and five foolish virgins in the parable Jesus told in Matthew 25:1-13 refer to real people carrying lamps with them?

I understand “made up stories can illustrate the Truth.”

Okay, good. Yet, you still disagree that Jesus ever did that?

What you are overlooking, is Jesus, did Not “make up “ (non-Truths), to make His point!

I don't know why you have such trouble understanding the simple points I'm making, but I know it's not my fault. It may not even be your fault. Maybe you just are lacking in reading comprehension skills and you can't help it. Either way, just calm down and try to pay attention to what I'm actually saying. I am NOT saying He is making up non-truths. Read that again. So, stop falsely accusing me of that. I have told you this several times now! Pay attention! What I am saying is that He made up stories which illustrate the truth, which you said above that you understand. So, if you understand that concept, why do you then falsely accuse me of saying Jesus made up non-truths when that is not what I'm saying at all?

He spoke the TRUTH in His parables. Okay? Are your reading that? I've already told you this several time and you keep accusing me of claiming that He spoke lies in His parables, which I NEVER claimed. Okay? Pay attention to what I actually say so you stop falsely accusing me.

Made up means …
invented, fabricated. NOT True!

No, not in this case. Is that what you say about any fictional TV shows or movies that you are watching, that they are full of lies? Let's say there's a movie with a story that someone made up and the intention of the creator of the movie was to teach people about something with his made up story. Does that mean his movie is a lie or is the creator of the movie illustrating truth with his made up story portrayed in the movie?

Do you understand…?

1 Pet 2:
[22] Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:

So, do you claim that all fictional books, movies and TV shows are sinful and full of lies since they are based on made up stories?

Again…You Wonder, if Jesus said things that were invented, fabricated, Not True.

He never said anything that wasn't true and I never said otherwise. Yet, here you are arguing with your straw man that he thinks that Jesus told lies. What is the name of the straw man that you're arguing with here?

Again…No He did Not.

Again…Every word Jesus Spoke was True!

I agree! Yet, you can't even discern that because your reading comprehension skills are TERRIBLE.

 

[Taken]

What in the world is wrong with you?

You are the one with the Problem.

You agree that "made up stories can illustrate the truth" and that is what I'm saying Jesus did.

I know. And disagree with you that that is what Jesus Did!

Okay, good. Yet, you still disagree that Jesus ever did that?

Shsssh…for the umpteenth time…YES, I disagree.

I don't know why you have such trouble understanding the simple points I'm making,

I understand your point….and it makes Jesus a fabricator, a liar! Which is False.

You say you believes the complete opposites.

You say Jesus speaker the Truth…
Then you say Jesus “Made up” Stories….
…Astounding!

Jesus IS the Truth.
Jesus Did Not make up stories.
Made up Stories ARE deceit, fabrication, Not Truths!

You are the one with a comprehension problem.

Opposites DO Not Mean the same thing!
Fabrication is Not Truth!