Who Is The Antichrist? A Biblical Prespective.

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Marty fox

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Please take a look at chapter 7 where the little horn comes AFTER the 10 horns come out of the 4th kingdom of pagan Rome. Both of them come out BEFORE the 4th kingdom beast (pagan Rome) is slain in 7;11. Also, AE is not found in the book of Daniel - only in our history books.
Have you ever read the books of Maccabees?

I have studied it with a devout Christian Jew and fully believe that Antiochus Epehanies is the little horn who was the eleventh king who had the previous three kings uprooted and became the eight king this is history.

I also believe that the fourth empire is Greece not Rome. If you were a Jews living in the days of Antiochus and the Maccabees you would have known that Daniel was talking about those times especially when he desecrated the temple with pigs blood.
 

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Have you ever read the books of Maccabees?

I have studied it with a devout Christian Jew and fully believe that Antiochus Epehanies is the little horn who was the eleventh king who had the previous three kings uprooted and became the eight king this is history.

I also believe that the fourth empire is Greece not Rome. If you were a Jews living in the days of Antiochus and the Maccabees you would have known that Daniel was talking about those times especially when he desecrated the temple with pigs blood.
Daniel 2:37-44 describes the four empires.

Daniel 2
44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

The God of heaven set up His kingdom during the Roman empire, not the Grecian.
 
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Daniel 2:37-44 describes the four empires.

Daniel 2
44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

The God of heaven set up His kingdom during the Roman empire, not the Grecian.
Yes and the book of Daniel shows them come and reign of the Jews

Babylon
The Medes
Persia
and then Daniel is told in chapter 10 that the king of Greece will come
 

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Yes and the book of Daniel shows them come and reign of the Jews

Babylon
The Medes
Persia
and then Daniel is told in chapter 10 that the king of Greece will come
During which empire did the God of heaven set up His kingdom?
 
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The scriptures below clearly show that the antichrist is not just a person

There are only four verses in the entire bible that uses the word antichrist

1 John 2:18
18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.

1 John 2:22
22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.

1 John 4:3
3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

2 John 1:7
I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.
yes there is the spirit of the antichrist and there is the person called the antichrist.

He goes by many named in the bible

man of lawlessness
man of sin
prince of the people that shall come
the beast
the 11th horn
rider on the white horse

this is but to name several.
 

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yes there is the spirit of the antichrist and there is the person called the antichrist.

He goes by many named in the bible

man of lawlessness
man of sin
prince of the people that shall come
the beast
the 11th horn
rider on the white horse

this is but to name several.
1 John 2:18
18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.

There is no "person called the antichrist". John identified that as hearsay, then corrected it: "even now many antichrists have come".

Any other names are dispensational futurism's fantasies and fallacies.
 
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Please tell me where the verse is for this? Thanks.
Well Rev. 13 has a lot showing the counterfeit trinity.

Teh dragon is Satan as we know and he is called the god of this world.

the antichrist being Satan's son?
Gen. 3:15
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
 

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yes there is the spirit of the antichrist and there is the person called the antichrist.

He goes by many named in the bible

man of lawlessness
man of sin
prince of the people that shall come
the beast
the 11th horn
rider on the white horse

this is but to name several.
You seemed to have identified a true individual that does go against Jesus. But why did you leave out the ONE person that God specifically identifies in Daniel 7 as the little horn?

This is where he is first mentioned to the world. Now, all you have to do is determine when he arrives - and that is all within Daniel 7.
 
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Well Rev. 13 has a lot showing the counterfeit trinity.

Teh dragon is Satan as we know and he is called the god of this world.

the antichrist being Satan's son?
Gen. 3:15
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Daniel 7 and Revelation 13 are indeed sister chapters but Daniel 7 gives us his identity and his first mention.
 
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yes there is the spirit of the antichrist and there is the person called the antichrist.

He goes by many named in the bible

man of lawlessness
man of sin
prince of the people that shall come
the beast
the 11th horn
rider on the white horse

this is but to name several.
That person is not the antichrist as there is no antichrist

When John mentions them he describes the antichrist and the beast completely different he gives them different names for a reason because they have different descriptions personalities and purposes
 

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During which empire did the God of heaven set up His kingdom?
During the Babylonian empire as Daniel states

Daniel 2
44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. 45 This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands—a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces.

King Nebuchadnezzar was the first empire he was the head of gold

36 “This was the dream, and now we will interpret it to the king. 37 Your Majesty, you are the king of kings. The God of heaven has given you dominion and power and might and glory; 38 in your hands he has placed all mankind and the beasts of the field and the birds in the sky. Wherever they live, he has made you ruler over them all. You are that head of gold.

If it wasn't in the days of Babylon then how could the rock destroy them all with one blow?

34 While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. 35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were all broken to pieces and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth.

Jesus set up the kingdom in Daniels days but then came and called it to himself and sent it worldwide
 
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Jesus set up the kingdom in Daniels days
Mark 1
14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

That wasn't in Daniel's days.

That was in Roman days.
 

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Mark 1
14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

That wasn't in Daniel's days.

That was in Roman days.
Yes the kingdom of God was at hand that means that it was currently happening not that it started

The verse I quoted in Daniel clearly states when it started
 

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Yes the kingdom of God was at hand that means that it was currently happening not that it started

The verse I quoted in Daniel clearly states when it started
The time wasn't fulfilled until Jesus' day, as Mark 1:15 declares.
 

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The time wasn't fulfilled until Jesus' day, as Mark 1:15 declares.
Yes Jesus is the fulfilment on the kingdom of God but not the entire time of the kingdom of God we are still in the kingdom of God two thousand years later

Is Daniel not in the kingdom of God? Is Daniel not saved in the same way as we are saved after the cross?

Daniel 2
44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.

In your view it is impossible for the verses above to be true.

Is not all of the four kingdoms those kings? How can a kingdom of God crush all four kingdoms if it never came until hundreds of years later?

Really think about this because the bible can’t contradict itself
 

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God's love: infinite, abundant,unreserved,unconditional.
God so loves the world, that there is not one person, living or dead, that Jesus did not die for. The apostle Paul says that if God was so willing to give His Son, He along with His Son willingly offers everything else also (Romans 8:32). This without any doubt includes all the advice, counsel, and directions in order that we may find our way to Him (Jeremiah 6:16; Matt.7:14; Hebrews 1:1-3;12:1,2; 1 Peter 2:2:21-25) along with all the warnings of the pitfalls, dangers, and wrong paths that may lead us astray.God has clearly described the full gospel, demonstrated His love, proclaimed His grace and mercy, and He has defined sin, exposed heresy, exposed our enemies, and repeatedly warned us of Satan's many varied and subtle deceptions that would lead us into a false hope (John 10:10; Isaiah 45:19; Amos 3:7; Isaiah 8:19,20). When time comes that we must face our Maker, we will have no excuse.

As we look to the future, prophecy informs us that we are nearing a time of great crisis of such magnitude that not since Noah has there been a time of such import and significance. And in fact in Revelation 14:9-11 is the most dire warning in all scripture, and that time is immediately before us. So I ask. Is this warning given in love? Yes. If such a dire warning is given, do you think God would also offer a sure identification of the Antichrist that we may not be deceived? Again, the answer is yes. And would not that same love also reveal not just who the beast is, but how we may avoid its mark? Remember, "He that spared not His own Son, but offered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things?"
Let us get real here.
Why is it that many in the church then move away from that revelation regarding the Antichrist, and attach to him their own theories and opinions when no such things are necessary? God has not enshrouded His warnings in a mystery that cannot be understood. The church has become full of prognosticators and clairvoyants, finding simple Biblical exegesis insufficient so people devise imaginative future enemies about to persecute the church, attack Israel, decimate all that they believe is good and sound, all the while ignoring and setting aside God's word that warns them that the enemy is not without the church, but within. In attempting to tell everyone that the enemy is still future and is coming from the horizon afar off, they do the devil's own work and deceive people into ignoring the real enemy who is standing beside them whose doctrines and dogmas they have all been partaking of. In this they are ignoring the very word of God that says "Come out of her my people". God says come out, they say he hasn't arrived yet. And not only so, but because they believe the coming enemy is an individual, how can they come out anyway from an individual? God's warning makes no sense to such a one. They fail to perceive that the Antichrist is not an individual, but a succession of individuals who preside over the one system. It is that system that is so very well described in scripture, and it is that system that God calls His people to leave. It is the system that God warns of, it is the system that is the enemy, and it is that system that so many are even now fully card-carrying-life members of but are totally unaware and oblivious of the danger!
In Revelation 13, that wonderful chapter that focuses so intently on the 'Beast' and its character and work, mentions 'worship' five times, and in the following chapter, 3 times. Satan lusts for and craves worship. Isaiah quotes Lucifer in
Isaiah 14:13,14. "I will ascend into heaven; I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation in the sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the Most High."!! Satan, aka Lucifer, has an "I" problem.
If Satan however strolled into the local church, of whatever denomination, introduced himself and said "worship me", is the congregation going to do that? Hardly. Does Satan know such a tactic would fail? Of course. So in order for him to receive the worship he so desperately craves, he has to make people believe they are worshiping the true God, when in actuality they are worshiping the false. Thus Satan has to use deception. He must introduce a system of worship that is so close to the original that it is almost impossible to tell them apart. He must introduce a counterfeit. He cannot do this by force, as people will be on to it immediately. In order to destroy the church, Satan tried with persecution through pagan Rome, but failing to lessen the growth of the church, he had to use more subtle methods. Introducing false doctrine he slowly but surely began to chip away at the foundations of truth until the people were believing a lie. Then they would be ready for the last great deception, and be led into false worship. God, Who sees the end from the beginning, warns us of this great counterfeit.
God has shown us who is Antichrist.
Paul wrote in
2 Thess. 2:3,4. "Let no man deceive you by any means, for that day (the second advent) shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition, who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped: so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God."
Here we see Antichrist promoting himself to a place of worship. What is the temple of God in the Christian era? It is the church. (1 Cor.3:16,17; 6:19; 2 Cor.6:16; Eph. 2:19-22). Therefore Antichrist is placing himself in a position of authority and as an object of worship within the church. He is not on the outside attacking the church, he is on the inside deceiving it. Paul repeats his former warning in
Acts 20:29,30. "I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them."
Paul also says in
2Thess. 2:7 "the mystery of iniquity doth already work." Thus the great apostasy he warned of had already begun in the days of the apostles, and this apostasy was to result in slowly and cunningly eroding away many important Bible truths from men's minds that would last for centuries.
The Antichrist who was to bring on the crisis of the mark of the beast at the end of time began forming and growing into power in those early days. John confirmed this saying in
John 4:3 "that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come, and even now is it in the world."
So Satan was raising up his counterfeit a long time ago,for it was through this counterfeit system of worship that Satan himself would be worshiped. Notice in...
Revelation 13:1 1 ¶ And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority."
Who is this dragon? Revelation 12:9 tells us
" And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."
Thus it is Satan who gives the beast its power, its seat (or throne) and authority. But this is not all. In reading Revelation 13:1,2 we are taken back to the 4th beast of Daniel, pagan Rome. The parallels between pagan Rome and the dragon, both in symbol and practice, is not a coincidence. And documented history reveals that it was pagan Rome, more specifically Emperor Justinian, that gave official approval to the popes in the 6th century to assume civil power in Rome. It was from this time that the Roman church began its venture as a church/state union, the typical and common characteristic of all pagan religions. And continuing in
Revelation 13:3 "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered (or marvel in admiration) after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?"
 
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