Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

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This sounds like SDA teaching to me since that is what they basically believe. Except not all of us are SDA and that a lot of us disagree with their interpretation. SDA denies that Christ is on the earth during the millennium. They have Christ in heaven during the millennium and have satan bound on the earth alone without a single human being on the planet at the time. Which then makes nonsense of some of Zechariah 14, for instance, since some of that chapter is involving things after Christ has returned and is obviously involving events taking place on the earth not in heaven. And that's hardly the only thing their interpretation contradicts.
Thanks but unless I am still not seeing this correctly, what do you say about the GWTRJ scene - doesn't this tell us the dead in Christ are resurrected once again to stand before God?
 

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Thanks but unless I am still not seeing this correctly, what do you say about the GWTRJ scene - doesn't this tell us the dead in Christ are resurrected once again to stand before God?

Yes, that is what it means. But you have to keep in mind, satan' s little season happens first. Which then leads to perhaps billions being devoured by fire at the end of his little season. Which then makes all these billions dead at that point. Which then means they have to rise from the dead in order to live again and be present at the GWTJ. People only die once and are only resurrected once. Therefore, these billions that are devoured by fire are already physically alive during the millennium and have never died yet and don't die until they are devoured by fire.

One reason I don't agree with any view that insists both the saved and lost rise the same day Christ returns, is because until all the lost are all dead first, no lost can rise from the dead in the meantime. Because if they do, what about the ones still alive? When do they rise from the dead? They can't rise from the dead before they are dead first, obviously.

Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.


Notice that after the 7th trumpet has already sounded, meaning after Christ has already returned, not all of the lost are even dead yet. Take verse 19, for instance. It speaks of an earthquake and great hail, meaning after the 7th trumpet already sounded. If the lost are already dead at this point, in that case an earthquake and great hail would be pointless. Events like that affect people who are still alive not already dead. And we know the great white throne judgment can't be in view here. Because, what does an earthquake and great hail have to do with Revelation 20:11-15? Nothing, that's what.

Therefore, the lost can't rise from the dead when the saved do because not all of the lost are even dead yet when the saved rise. And until all of the lost are all dead first, there can't be a resurrection of the lost in the meantime.
 

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The bows, arrows, shields, spears are symbolic of the actual weapons used in the latter days, latter years attack on Israel.
"Wrong" Douggg

A wooden bow and arrow doesn't become a M-16 rifle

A wooden shield doesn't become a Abraham's Tank

A wooden spear doesn't become a Javelin Missile

Here we go again Douggg, more fantasy land in Aesops fables Sci-Fi

It's absolutely amazing at how far one will go in trying to promote their private interpretations and doctrines, and this is a prime example

The battle seen in Ezekiel Chapter 39 was fought "Long Ago" with wooden weapons Bows, Arrows, Spears, Shields, these weapons were burnt in the fires of Israel "Long Ago"

Your claim the battle seen in Ezekiel Cgapter 39 is future, and all the wooden weapons seen below are symbolic of modern day weapons is 100% "Laughable" and that's in sincere love

Ezekiel 39:9-10KJV
9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:
10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord God.
 
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After the Millennium (Revelation 20:7-10):
  • The wicked dead are resurrected to join Satan’s final rebellion. (FIRST RESURRECTION OF WICKED IN CHRIST)
No, there is not "first resurrection of the wicked". And there are no wicked "in Christ". "in Christ" applies only to persons who are saved.

I think you are reading Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.... thinking that the first resurrection is applying to the rest of the dead, which you are understanding to be the wicked, yes ? And then are reasoning that therefore there must also be a second resurrection of the wicked.

Well, the first resurrection of verse 5 is referring to the previous verse applying to the resurrection of the great tribulation martyrs only of verse 4.

The wicked are only going to be resurrected, one time, and that will be to stand before the Great White Throne judgement. Their resurrection will be in Revelation 20:13.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Anyone who's name is not found written in the book of life will be cast into the lake of fire. That is second death.
 

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"Wrong" Douggg

A wooden bow and arrow doesn't become a M-16 rifle

A wooden shield doesn't become a Abraham's Tank

A wooden spear doesn't become a Javelin Missile
The bows, arrows, shields, spears wording is symbolic weapons of war of the actual weapons that will be used in the Gog/Magog attack on Israel.

Other use of symbolism regarding weapons used is in Revelation 9:16-19.

horses, which have heads as lions, and out out their mouth fire and brimstone. Symbolic language used to describe tanks.

The battle seen in Ezekiel Chapter 39 was fought "Long Ago" with wooden weapons Bows, Arrows, Spears, Shields, these weapons were burnt in the fires of Israel "Long Ago"
No, after the destruction of Gog's army there will be a graveyard site called "Hamongog". That does not exist. It is still future.

Ezekiel 39:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.

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In Ezekiel 39:
21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.

22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.

Jesus speaking in the text having returned to this earth. Israel which currently does not believe that Jesus is the LORD their God, will from the day of His return and forward.

Verse 28 is the gathering of the elect of Matthew 24:31 at Jesus's return.

Ezekiel 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
 
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Ok, let me throw something out there for everyone to consider.... there are at least two possibilities to resolving this multiple like number of resurrections and deaths.... and even before we evaluate these verses we all recognize that the wicked in Christ will have one physical death to be resurrected for their second and final death.

So, option one is that the actors, God and Magog do not represent a resurrection of the dead in Christ and the term "them" means all the fallen angels associated with Satan when he is resurrected and finally destroyed.

The second option is that the dead in Christ are resurrected after the 1000 years to be destroyed by fire and that is it for them. But that would have to mean the GWTJ is NOT a literal "another" resurrection and destruction, but it symbolic. God makes it known that all of those tha WERE destroyed was due to this judgement for their deeds, actions and rejection of God.

I am now voting for the second option because I do not find the language surrounding the GWTJ stating another literal resurretion and destruction but a judgement on them....

So, would lke to hear your thoughts either way.... thanks.
 

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and even before we evaluate these verses we all recognize that the wicked in Christ will have one physical death to be resurrected for their second and final death.
CTK, the term "wicked in Christ", where are you coming up that term ? It is not a term in the kjv bible. Do you mean by that term, the papacy and popes ?

So, option one is that the actors, God and Magog do not represent a resurrection of the dead in Christ and the term "them" means all the fallen angels associated with Satan when he is resurrected and finally destroyed.
Gog and Magog as used in Revelation 20:8 after the millennium is over, is just referring to the same nations that took part in the Gog/Magog event of Ezekiel 38-39 a thousand years earlier.
 

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The second option is that the dead in Christ are resurrected after the 1000 years to be destroyed by fire and that is it for them. But that would have to mean the GWTJ is NOT a literal "another" resurrection and destruction, but it symbolic. God makes it known that all of those tha WERE destroyed was due to this judgement for their deeds, actions and rejection of God.
I am going to make it simple for you.

1. the rapture/resurrection event of Christians that will happen before the great tribulation begins.

2. the resurrection of the martyred great tribulation saints, who will be Christians, Revelation 20:4-6

3. the resurrection of everyone else, in Revelation 20:13, to stand before the Great White Throne, for their eternal destiny.
 

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The bows, arrows, shields, spears wording is symbolic weapons of war of the actual weapons that will be used in the Gog/Magog attack on Israel.
I Disagree, Ezekiel Chapter 39 shows a historical battle that was fought with literal wooden weapons as shown, bows, arrows, shields, spears, "Long Ago"!

Douggg you claim the battle is future in a complete Sci-Fi fairy tale land, as your grasp at flying straws with the magical fairy tale claim that the wooden weapons described are "Symbolic" but scripture really means there modern weapons M-16 rifles, Javelin Missiles, Mortars, etc "Real Big Smiles"!

While we're in the realm of Aesops Fables, what's your "Symbolic" interpretation of the weapons being burnt with fire for 7 years, im waiting in suspense for this one???????

Ezekiel 39:9-10KJV
9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:
10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord God.
 

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I am going to make it simple for you.

1. the rapture/resurrection event of Christians that will happen before the great tribulation begins.
A Pre-Trib rapture is found no place in scripture, its the invention of John N. Darby in the 1830's and promoted by C.I. Scofield in his 1909 reference bible better known as the false school of dispensationalism's teachings at (Dallas Theological Cemetary)
2. the resurrection of the martyred great tribulation saints, who will be Christians, Revelation 20:4-6
False claim, the resurrection of all that are in the grave takes place at the second coming of Jesus Christ on "The Last Day" (The End)
John 5:28-29, John 6:39-40
John 5:28-29, John 6:39-40. the resurrection of everyone else, in Revelation 20:13, to stand before the Great White Throne, for their eternal destiny.
The resurrection of all that are in the grave takes place at the second coming of Jesus Christ on "The Last Day" (The End) John 5:28-29, John 6:39-40
 

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While we're in the realm of Aesops Fables, what's your "Symbolic" interpretation of the weapons being burnt with fire for 7 years, im waiting in suspense for this one???????
I think what is actually going to be burned is the diesel fuel from the vehicles, tanks, howitzers, etc. For heat and cooking, during the 7 years, that will include the great tribulation period when just surviving is going to be difficult.
 
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I think what is actually going to burned is the diesel fuel from the vehicles, tanks, howitzers, etc. For heat and cooking, during the 7 years, that will include the great tribulation period when just surviving is going to be difficult.
Bows, Arrows, Shields, Spears, Now Magically Turn Into, Vehicles, Tanks, And Howitzers

"Big Smiles"!

Ezekiel 39:9-10KJV
9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:
10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord God.
 

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A Pre-Trib rapture is found no place in scripture, its the invention of John N. Darby in the 1830's and promoted by C.I. Scofield in his 1909 reference bible better known as the false school of dispensationalism's teachings at (Dallas Theological Cemetary)

False claim, the resurrection of all that are in the grave takes place at the second coming of Jesus Christ on "The Last Day" (The End)
John 5:28-29, John 6:39-40

The resurrection of all that are in the grave takes place at the second coming of Jesus Christ on "The Last Day" (The End) John 5:28-29, John 6:39-40
Read Revelation 20.

The only ones resurrected at the time that Jesus returns will be the martyred great tribulation saints in Revelation 20:4-6.

The rest of the dead will be resurrected in Revelation 20:13, to stand before the Great White Throne, for their eternal destiny.

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The rapture (the living in Christ)/ resurrection of the dead in Christ event will take place before the great tribulation begins. And before the Antichrist commits the transgression of desolation act of 2Thessalonians2:4. Anytime between today and then.

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The rapture (the living in Christ)/ resurrection of the dead in Christ event will take place before the great tribulation begins. And before the Antichrist commits the transgression of desolation act of 2Thessalonians2:4. Anytime between today and then.

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The Bible below clearly teaches that Jesus returns and at his coming (Then Cometh The End) you don't want to see this because it destroys your false teaching in a pre-trib rapture-resurrection event

Douggg you aren't going to remove the very clear words below that shows (The End) at the Second Coming, as you falsely teach that a tribulation on this earth follows this event in the resurrection seen below "False"

1.) Christ's At His Coming
2.) Then Cometh The End

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end,
when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
 
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I Disagree, Ezekiel Chapter 39 shows a historical battle that was fought with literal wooden weapons as shown, bows, arrows, shields, spears, "Long Ago"!

Douggg you claim the battle is future in a complete Sci-Fi fairy tale land, as your grasp at flying straws with the magical fairy tale claim that the wooden weapons described are "Symbolic" but scripture really means there modern weapons M-16 rifles, Javelin Missiles, Mortars, etc "Real Big Smiles"!

While we're in the realm of Aesops Fables, what's your "Symbolic" interpretation of the weapons being burnt with fire for 7 years, im waiting in suspense for this one???????

Ezekiel 39:9-10KJV
9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:
10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord God.

Let's face it. It's basically in vain trying to reason with you and others like you about some of these things. Just believe what you want to believe, but don't expect some of the rest of us to believe it with you. If you want tobelieve Ezekiel 38-39 is some ancient battle that already took place, a battle that no religious Jew past or present knows anything about, go for it then.

Believe things that even Jews don't believe, Jews that know their own history better than you and I know their history, even they don't believe this to be a battle in the past that has already been fulfilled. Yet somehow you know their history better than they know their history. Go figure.

Ezekiel 38:16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter('achariyth) days(yowm), and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.


Maybe you don't even use a Strong's for all I know, but according to Strong's--'latter('achariyth) days(yowm)' are the same Hebrew words they are in the following passages.

Isaiah 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last('achariyth) days(yowm), that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.


Micah 4:1 But in the last('achariyth) days(yowm) it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

Anyone that is not asleep at the wheel would be thinking, someone is trying to tell us something here. That the time period Isaiah 2:2 and Micah 4:1 is involving, is the same time period Ezekiel 38:16 is involving. After all, obviously there can only be one era of time involving last days, not multiple different eras of time where there were last days that came and went, and then later there are some more last days, different last days, thousands of years after these alleged previous last days already came and went.

My view is that the last days involve the past 2000 years plus the millennium that follows Christ's return. And that the last day of the last days is not a literal 24 hour period but is meaning an era of time, meaning the millennium, for one.
 
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My view is that the last days involve the past 2000 years plus the millennium that follows Christ's return. And that the last day of the last days is not a literal 24 hour period but is meaning an era of time, meaning the millennium, for one.
There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.


2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance
on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
 

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If you want tobelieve Ezekiel 38-39 is some ancient battle that already took place, a battle that no religious Jew past or present knows anything about, go for it then.
"I Will Go For It" Because It's God's Truth Before Your Eyes, Your Belief Ezekiel Chapter 39 Is Future, Thats A Fantasy Fairy Tale

God's words clearly show that Ezekiel Chapter 39 surrounds Israel going into its captivity in Babylon, and the battle that took place "Long Ago" when Israel returned to Jerusalem to build the 2nd Zerubabbel temple in 536BC, Ezekiel Chapters 40-46 shows the 2nd Zerubabbel temple, not a Millennial Kingdom temple as many falsely teach

The Babylonian Captivity 70 Years, God Returned Israel To Jerusalem "After" The "Historical Battle" seen

Return = Now Will I Bring Again The Captivity

Ezekiel 39:23-25KJV
23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.
25 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
 
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Let's face it. It's basically in vain trying to reason with you and others like you about some of these things. Just believe what you want to believe, but don't expect some of the rest of us to believe it with you. If you want tobelieve Ezekiel 38-39 is some ancient battle that already took place, a battle that no religious Jew past or present knows anything about, go for it then.

Believe things that even Jews don't believe, Jews that know their own history better than you and I know their history, even they don't believe this to be a battle in the past that has already been fulfilled. Yet somehow you know their history better than they know their history. Go figure.

Ezekiel 38:16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter('achariyth) days(yowm), and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.


Maybe you don't even use a Strong's for all I know, but according to Strong's--'latter('achariyth) days(yowm)' are the same Hebrew words they are in the following passages.

Isaiah 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last('achariyth) days(yowm), that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.


Micah 4:1 But in the last('achariyth) days(yowm) it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

Anyone that is not asleep at the wheel would be thinking, someone is trying to tell us something here. That the time period Isaiah 2:2 and Micah 4:1 is involving, is the same time period Ezekiel 38:16 is involving. After all, obviously there can only be one era of time involving last days, not multiple different eras of time where there were last days that came and went, and then later there are some more last days, different last days, thousands of years after these alleged previous last days already came and went.

My view is that the last days involve the past 2000 years plus the millennium that follows Christ's return. And that the last day of the last days is not a literal 24 hour period but is meaning an era of time, meaning the millennium, for one.

Many Claim Ezekiel Chapters 40-46, Represents A Future Temple In A Millennium On Earth, Is This True?​


As clearly shown, Ezekiel Chapter 43 showed the temple "Pattern" to the House of Israel in the Babylonian Captivity let "Them" measure, Ezekiel was instructed to write the ordinances and law in "Their" sight, that "They" keep them, not some future generation as many "Falsely" claim

The temple seen in Ezekiel Chapters 40-46 is nothing more than the 2nd Zerubbabel Temple built 536BC after the Babylonian Captivity, where animal sacrifice for "Sin" was was instructed by "God", prior to the shed blood of Jesus Christ on Calvary, don't be deceived

Ezekiel 43:10-11 & 19-21KJV
10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.
11 And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them.

19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord God, a young bullock for a sin offering.
20 And thou shalt take of the blood thereof, and put it on the four horns of it, and on the four corners of the settle, and upon the border round about: thus shalt thou cleanse and purge it.
21 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it in the appointed place of the house, without the sanctuary.
 

Douggg

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God's words clearly show that Ezekiel Chapter 39 surrounds Israel going into its captivity in Babylon, and the battle that took place "Long Ago" when Israel returned to Jerusalem to build the 2nd Zerubabbel temple in 536BC,
Ezekiel 39:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.

The mass grave site full of the bones of Gog's armies dead bodies does not exist because Ezekiel 39 has not happen yet.
 
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Ezekiel 39:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.

The mass grave site full of the bones of Gog's armies dead bodies does not exist because Ezekiel 39 has not happen yet.

I wondered where can @Truth7t7 find the massive grave site in Israel today which it is called the Valley of Hamongog. Where is it, then? Where do you smell it? :-)