Is Ezekiel Chapter 39 In The Gog/Magog Battle Future And Unfulfilled?

[Spiritual Israelite]

People such as yourself claim to be spiritual leaders with the holy Ghost .You twist the word of God and say that it doesn't mean what it says.Fact is,it is perfect as it is without your twisted ungodly interpretations.


Revelation 20
20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


Perfect ,just as it is written.

Yes, it's perfect just as it is written. It's too bad that you don't understand it and interpret it in such a way that contradicts other scripture. You've made it clear that you don't care for Paul's teachings at all, but you don't want to talk about that since your interpretations of other scripture contradict what he taught.

 

[Hobie]

Nothing more than a completely false accusation. That's all you have to offer, so I'm not wasting any more time on you. You refuse to make any effort to show how your interpretation of Revelation 20 matches up with 1 Thessalonians 4:14-5:9, 1 Corinthians 15:22-23 and many other scriptures. Which tells me that you don't really care if your interpretation of Revelation 20 contradicts other scripture or not. I guess your Bible only contains Revelation 20 and nothing else.

It is key to understanding the events at the end. It goes right through the sequence and unveils what happens which matches up with the rest of the verses .

 

[Timtofly]

You avoided Spiritual Israelites claim again as if it didn't exist, the very reason I don't respond to the majority of your post's

He directly stated there is one future resurrection and he posted John 5:28-29 below in support, and you continue to claim there are resurrection 1,000 literal years apart "False"

"All" that are in the grave shall come forth, "All"!

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Resurrection does not have to wait until a certain hour. Jesus is not still dead waiting for that hour. No one since Jesus who has entered eternal life, is waiting for that hour. Those waiting since the Flood, or before Moses, may be waiting for eternal life. You all forget to include the verse that states, the hour now is for those redeemed in Christ who have the second birth. Those with the Second Birth are not waiting for that last hour of time to be redeemed. They already have eternal life currently in Paradise, because their eternal life started at physical death, when the soul entered God's permanent incorruptible physical body per 2 Corinthians 5:1.

No one redeemed since the Cross is waiting in their graves. Jesus was talking about the OT waiting in their graves, because they were waiting for the Second Birth, that was only available after the Cross.

There will be millions who receive eternal life who are in their graves, that is they are suffering in sheol, but have never rejected Jesus, because they died without knowing Jesus in the OT.

Equating those who have the Second Birth with those who do not, is your erroneous interpretation of those verses. You think those with the Second Birth are still dead and being punished, waiting in death for some last hour, instead of already enjoying eternal life. Having eternal life means one is not dead nor in a grave, but literally, they already have eternal life, not waiting for eternal life.

Your salvation wants everyone to receive eternal life at the same time, in the future. That is being a futurist along with your amil theory. You put off eternal life until some last symbolic hour.

The resurrection of life is not just physical. It is spiritual, and those with the Second Birth, already have physical life in Paradise, not waiting for it. The redemption of the body is when the soul leaves Adam's body passed down generation after generation, and enters God's permanent incorruptible physical body. You all deny God's Word on eternal life. You deny it is available upon our physical death.

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live."

Don't you think you already possess the resurrection of life spiritually? Why would you postpone that resurrection until thousands of years from when it was available? The resurrection of life has always been available since Jesus said that. The resurrection of damnation is what you all are waiting for (not that you are waiting for damnation, but you deny eternal life is already available), because you insist the physical is tied to your final resurrection.

Nope. The physical redemption of the redeemed is available, upon physical death. That is the epitome of eternal life. Most people have been shocked when they get to heaven, as they were taught wrong by amil for hundreds of years. Unless you all think that Amil don't have physical bodies in Paradise, but every one else does, because that was their interpretation of God's Word. Some of you seem to think your all's interpretation trumps what God actually states in Scripture. You think you have to wait for redemption thousands of years after physical death, even though you already have eternal life and just waiting for God's physical body, as Paul indicated. So you base your interpretation on false added human doctrine concocted from a lot of Scripture taken out of context, and applied to your Amil doctrine.

Were you already physically dead when Jesus said:

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Jesus never said you would be in your grave. Jesus said those still waiting in their graves. Why would that verse even apply to you? Will your soul be in the grave, or heaven at that point? Why do you think Jesus was talking about a physical body, when He was talking about, in your lingo, the spiritual soul, not the body.

I don't get this conflating soul and body stuff. You are the soul, not the body. The soul either puts on Adam's dead flesh, or God's permanent incorruptible physical body. The soul is either waiting in death, or has eternal life via the Second Birth. No one with eternal life is a soul waiting in a grave somewhere. You are not a physical body waiting in a grave. No one was, when Jesus made that promise. Jesus was talking about the eternal state of the soul, and those currently dead, a naked soul (without a body) waiting in death. You were not a soul waiting in death in the first century. Yet you claim you can have eternal life, and still be a soul waiting in death for hundreds of years at the same time. Nope! You either have eternal life now or you don't. Because the only ones still waiting for eternal life, are those dead waiting for eternal life. Those with eternal life, are not currently waiting for that eternal life, as that is the promise of the verse:

"they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life"

For one, you did not do good to receive your eternal life, so that would not apply to you at all. You have eternal life in Jesus, because that hour was already come, back in the first century.

How some people miss this is beyond comprehension. Well obviously, they don't comprehend their own error that contradicts the verses they use to make their erroneous point.