THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

[Aunty Jane]

Read it and see the pictures, from 230 AD.

Earliest ‘Jesus is God’ inscription found — deemed ‘greatest discovery since the Dead Sea Scrolls’

Scientists are going gaga over the earliest inscription declaring “Jesus is God,” claiming that this 1,800-year-old engraving could change our understanding of Christianity.

nypost.com

Earliest ‘Jesus is God’ inscription found — deemed ‘greatest discovery since the Dead Sea Scrolls’​

I did…..but I want to know how this discovery is any more significant than what the apostle John wrote in John 1:1? Note the translation of the inscription….
”The god-loving Akeptous has offered the table to God Jesus Christ as a memorial.“
Lin described this as the “first physical proclamation of Jesus Christ as God,”….but was it really?

Since there are no capital letters in Greek, why is the first mention of “theos” not capitalized?
Just the use of capital letters is misleading. But we are going back 1800 years to a time when the apostasy foretold by Jesus and the apostles was in full swing, gearing up for the eventual takeover of a pagan Emperor seeking to consolidate his religiously divided empire into one adulterated state religion, combining pagan Roman sun worship with an impotent church, seeking nothing more than what this Emperor offered.…a fusion of both faiths.
What happened to Israel when they tried to do that? God punished them.

If only these floors could talk.

Yep…..and not have dodgy interpreters….

Scientists are going gaga over the earliest inscription declaring “Jesus is God,” claiming that this 1,800-year-old engraving could change our understanding of Christianity.

The mosaic is “the greatest discovery since the Dead Sea Scrolls,” declared Carlos Campo, CEO of the Museum of the Bible in Washington D.C., where the theologically significant relic has been housed since July, the Jewish News Syndicate (JNS) reported.

Ga ga? Much ado about nothing. If one understands the meaning of “theos” in Greek, then both the Father and the son can be described using this terminology. Look up “theos” in a Greek to English Interlinear. It means any deity, divinity, or divinely authorized person. Declaring that Jesus is “theos” is no more exciting than using the same word for human judges and even satan. (John 10:31-36; 2 Cor 4:4)

If it stated that Jesus was Yahweh, then you might have cause for excitement, but there is no such statement in the Bible….not a single one.

Inscribed on the mosaic are Greek words, “The god-loving Akeptous has offered the table to God Jesus Christ as a memorial. Lin described this as the “first physical proclamation of Jesus Christ as God,” the Daily Mail reported.

“The mosaic presents groundbreaking physical evidence of the practices and beliefs of early Christians, including the first archaeological instance of the phrase, ‘God Jesus Christ,’ seconded the exhibition’s curator Alegre Savariego.

This was significant as the artifact declared JC as God before Christianity became part of the Roman empire, JNS reported.

Earliest ‘Jesus is God’ inscription found — deemed ‘greatest discovery since the Dead Sea Scrolls’

The whole concept of the trinity took centuries to become ”Christian” doctrine. Generations of “Christians” had to have this idea slowly impregnated on a weakened and weedy church that Jesus himself foretold. These “weeds“ spawned Christendom with teachings that neither Jesus nor his apostles could ever have accepted as truth.

The “weeds” of Jesus parable were sown by the devil and overtook the world. Very few “Christian” denominations are free of the three principle doctrines that satan planted……the trinity, immortality of the soul and a hell of eternal torment. These three are woven into ambiguous verses of Scripture and taught as gospel truth….none of them are.

 

[Heart2Soul]

1 is the Number of - i 'll leave this for you
2 is the number of Marriage
3 is the number of God/Elohim - Genesis , Gospel, Revelation
4 - four corners of the earth - 4 gospels
5 - Grace - also Ministry = Ephesians 4:11
6 is the number of man - Genesis
7 is the number of Salvation - Genesis , Exodus , Gospel
8 is the Number of New Beginnings - Circumcised on the 8th day AND the New Earth - Revelation
9 is the number of Judgment also tribulation as in pregnancy "when her time has come" SEE Romans as well
10 is the Number of PERFECT - TEN Commandments = God's PERFECT Law which resides in Christ
10 is also the number of Tribulation = no one is able to keep the 10 Commandments as Christ did for us
10 - Tribulation - Revelation 10 Kings who receive power with the Beast
11 - i have not researched so you can fill in this spot
12 - Genesis 12 Tribes of Israel , 12 Apostles AND the New Jerusalem - Revelation

When you add 7 + 3 you get 10 = these numbers all pertain to God as shown above
Also when you ad 12 by itself you get 3 which is the number of God = Revelation chapter 21 where 12 becomes 3 and a Marriage made in Heaven.

So I looked up 11....it is very lengthy. The first thing that came to my mind was the 11th hour...and that was top of the list.

 

[David in NJ]

So I looked up 11....it is very lengthy. The first thing that came to my mind was the 11th hour...and that was top of the list.

For the Number 1 there is this: Exodus 12:49 "One law shall be for the native-born and for the stranger who dwells among you."
Now, as you know, this is a MONUMENTAL statement by God at this time in Hsitory AND it carries over as it is the EXACT Promise
of the FATHER:
a.) One MESSIAH
b.) only One begotten SON of God
c.) One Truth
d.) One Holy Spirit
e.) One FATHER
f.) One GOSPEL for ALL nations
g.) One Sacrifice = the Lamb that takes away the sins of the world
h.) JESUS only dies ONCE for sin


i have not studied the number 11 except what you correctly posted.

i do not like speculating but rather study to see how the number is used, for what purpose(s) and to whom.

We see 11 come up in Acts because Judas was lost so that left 11 disciples

11 comes up in the OT with 11 bulls for sacrifice but i have not examined it further

 

[Heart2Soul]

For the Number 1 there is this: Exodus 12:49 "One law shall be for the native-born and for the stranger who dwells among you."
Now, as you know, this is a MONUMENTAL statement by God at this time in Hsitory AND it carries over as it is the EXACT Promise
of the FATHER:
a.) One MESSIAH
b.) only One begotten SON of God
c.) One Truth
d.) One Holy Spirit
e.) One FATHER
f.) One GOSPEL for ALL nations
g.) One Sacrifice = the Lamb that takes away the sins of the world
h.) JESUS only dies ONCE for sin


i have not studied the number 11 except what you correctly posted.

i do not like speculating but rather study to see how the number is used, for what purpose(s) and to whom.

We see 11 come up in Acts because Judas was lost so that left 11 disciples

11 come sup in the OT with 11 bulls for sacrifice but i have not examined it further

Yes good...

 

[Aunty Jane]

I am too old to play like this. When a question is asked then an answer would be great. But answering a question with a question to me shows lack of sincerity to grow in truth for yourself and for me or whoever you are engaged with. I am not here to dominate, control or be puffed up about what I know or don't know about scripture. I just finished a 16 week semester in college and I am worn out.

Jesus asked questions as a means to clarify beliefs. On a forum such as this, sometimes a person’s beliefs get lost in the crowd. There are so many “branches” of Christianity that it becomes a quagmire of conflict. I ask questions to ascertain what a person believes and I quote scripture to help answer those questions.

The Holy Spirit unifies God’s worshippers…it does not divide them among themselves….the separation of the sheep and the goats is a dividing off of those who are united in truth from those who are not. Professing to be a Christian and quoting scripture means nothing if your interpretation is skewed by man made doctrines.

That is all I am going to say. It is out of a humble spirit that I entertained your questions challenging me to see if I know what I read in the Bible...Yes I do, only because the Holy Spirit helps me and teaches me the hidden wisdom of God's Word and gives me new Revelation of the meaning of scripture continually.

If you are confident of your beliefs then go in peace….its not my job to convert anyone….only God’s spirit can do that, but reading Matt 7:21-23, Jesus informs us that “many” are going to claim him as their ”Lord”, but it isn’t going to mean much when they start to make their excuses to God’s appointed judge…..when he says “I never knew you”……”NEVER” means “not ever”….so how far do we have to go back in time to discover when the church became unrecognizable to Christ?
Where do Christendom’s beliefs come from?……if the “weeds” invaded the church, as Jesus and the apostles foretold, when did that take place if Jesus says he has “NEVER” known those ones who say they are Christians….?

 

[David in NJ]

Yes good...

Let me know what you come up with as i SEE as you SEE that God established certain numbers for specific meanings.

Yesterday i said that 7 is the number of Salvation

This is why -
Genesis - "on the seventh day God rested from all His work"
Exodus - "the seventh day is Holy - anyone who works on it shall be put to death"
Gospel - John 3:16-18 "Whoever believes is not condemned but whoever believes not is condemned already"
GOSPEL - Jesus says, come to ME......I will give you REST"


Here is something else - JESUS is also the number 70 in scripture = let me when you find the scriptures that detail this for us

SHALOM

 

[Heart2Soul]

Jesus asked questions as a means to clarify beliefs. On a forum such as this, sometimes a person’s beliefs get lost in the crowd. There are so many “branches” of Christianity that it becomes a quagmire of conflict. I ask questions to ascertain what a person believes and I quote scripture to help answer those questions.

The Holy Spirit unifies God’s worshippers…it does not divide them among themselves….the separation of the sheep and the goats is a dividing off of those who are united in truth from those who are not. Professing to be a Christian and quoting scripture means nothing if your interpretation is skewed by man made doctrines.

If you are confident of your beliefs then go in peace….its not my job to convert anyone….only God’s spirit can do that, but reading Matt 7:21-23, Jesus informs us that “many” are going to claim him as their ”Lord”, but is isn’t going to mean much when they start to make their excuses to God’s appointed judge…..when he says “I never knew you”……”NEVER” means “not ever”….so how far do we have to go back in time to discover when the church became unrecognizable to Christ?
Where do Christendom’s beliefs come from?……if the “weeds” invaded the church, as Jesus and the apostles foretold, when did that take place if Jesus says he has “NEVER” known those ones who say they are Christians….?

I can't answer whether someone is a Christian or not. The Bible says to let each work out their own salvation. When I am speaking to someone who isn't saved I can't tell them they are going to hell...all I can do is inform them of what the Bible says. Judgment is reserved for the Lord.

 

[Aunty Jane]

As we grow in the Spirit, our mind becomes spiritual, as when we became Born Again in our spirit, we were gifted spirit eyes and ears, because we now belong to God as his spirit children, the Holy Spirit who indwells our spirit, helps us develop our spirit ears and our spirit eyes, we see through the eyes of the Spirit.,

What comes along with being born again is spiritual comprehension…..as the ones chosen to be “joint heirs”, “kings and priests with Christ” in his kingdom, a sound knowledge of Scripture is required. This is what Jesus taught his apostles, using only the OT. (2 Tim 3:16-17) The apostles in turn quoted the OT in teaching about the Christ.

Only Scripture allows us to back up what we are learning.

What is your understanding of being Born Again by= supernatural divine heart revelation.?

My view of being “born again” is very different to your own I imagine. One has to take in knowledge of God and his Christ if they desire everlasting life. (John 17:3) In order to “know” God you need to know what the Hebrew Scriptures teach about him……and in order to “know” Jesus Christ, we have his words and actions recorded for us as well. This knowledge leads to baptism…freely chosen….water baptism that symbolizes a death and burial of the old person, and resurrection of the new person, fully informed and now ready to obey Jesus as the great teacher and exemplar for us all.

“The elect”, spoken about in Scripture are “the holy ones”..…”saints”…..”chosen ones”…so their choosing is from God, not something anyone can volunteer to be, but selected specifically by God for an active role in his Kingdom. This is why we need to know what God’s kingdom is….how it “comes” and what it will do for redeemed humanity.

None of the elect fail to understand what their purpose is….God implants an inordinate desire to leave all familiar earthly things behind and go to a very different realm in a very different form in order to join their king for their assignment in his kingdom.

For those who will have the “born again” experience, a token is given them to inform their spirit of that change, and grant them not only acceptance, but an inordinate desire to do so. It has to override their natural desire to remain on earth…a place where God purposed that we should live forever. (Gen 3:22-24)
Only upon their death and resurrection, will they have the “born again” experience of being transformed into spirit beings so as to live in the presence of God.
To me, this what being “born again” means…..it doesn’t happen to humans of flesh and blood, but pertains to their complete transformation, “born again” as a new creature.

If that makes no sense to you, then I can’t see how we can further our discussion.

I’m sorry if that fights with what you believe….but that is what the Bible tells me it means to be “born again”.

In the flesh, sin makes us a pathetic excuse for God’s original perfect creation….but we who do not entertain a heavenly hope, will be made new as well, under the rulership of God’s Kingdom of a thousand years…having sin eradicated, to live forever on earth, as God first intended for us. The Earth will again be restored to God’s original purpose, becoming the paradise of pleasure he always intended for it to be. (Rev 21:2-4)

We will be ruled by God, as it was intended, and have eternal peace and happiness serving our purpose here on this beautiful earth…ruled by a perfect government….God’s will can then “be done on earth as it is in heaven.”

 

[MonoBiblical]

Here is the exact words of Truth

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers.
All things were created through Him and for Him.
And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.

What do the three verses in BOLD declare about JESUS???

What does being the exact "image of the invisible God" mean to you?

It means he is visible, but God is not.

 

[MonoBiblical]

It definitely not ancient Jerusalem as we know it. It is either a Greek or Roman city.

 

[Ritajanice]

What comes along with being born again is spiritual comprehension…

Yes, I would say , being Born Again can only come by a Living supernatural divine heart revelation, when Spirit gives birth to spirit.

..as the ones chosen to be “joint heirs”, “kings and priests with Christ” in his kingdom, a sound knowledge of Scripture is required. This is what Jesus taught his apostles, using only the OT. (2 Tim 3:16-17) The apostles in turn quoted the OT in teaching about the Christ.

I would say a sound knowledge that one’s spirit has been reborn , by divine heart revelation, which means that we can only know that we are Born Again by Gods Living testimony.

How do you know that God exists, just by looking at creation?

A Born Again knows of God on a much deeper level, as they grow and mature in their spirit..who is the one helping us grow in spiritual knowledge?

Only Scripture allows us to back up what we are learning.

Only the Living Holy Spirit who has birthed my spirit into Christ, can bring scripture to my understanding in my spirit, as a Born Again communicates with God via his Holy Spirit, he does the will of the Father through his children and on earth.

My view of being “born again” is very different to your own I imagine. One has to take in knowledge of God and his Christ if they desire everlasting life. (John 17:3) In order to “know” God you need to know what the Hebrew Scriptures teach about him…

No, in order to know of God, we must be reborn in our spirit.

How can reading scripture show that you know God, ? You are reading about him from your own human intellect, we can only know of God and communicate with him, via his Holy Spirit to our spirit...our spirit knows God...which comes through his Living testimony.

…and in order to “know” Jesus Christ, we have his words and actions recorded for us as well. This knowledge leads to baptism…freely chosen….water baptism that symbolizes a death and burial of the old person, and resurrection of the new person, fully informed and now ready to obey Jesus as the great teacher and exemplar for us all.

In order to know that Jesus was truly who the Bible says he was, once again is by his Living testimony, only he can witness to our spirit that truth.

“The elect”, spoken about in Scripture are “the holy ones”..…”saints”…..”chosen ones”…so their choosing is from God, not something anyone can volunteer to be, but selected specifically by God for an active role in his Kingdom. This is why we need to know what God’s kingdom is….how it “comes” and what it will do for redeemed humanity.

The elect are certainly chosen by God, some like to think they chose God, not so.

I’m in the Kingdom on earth, which is Gods Spiritual realm on earth, a Born Again glorifies the Father, we always testify of his power on earth plus his mighty power at work in his Born Again children, as soon as our spirit is reborn, he’s at work in our hearts, preparing us for heaven, he has prepared a place for us, now what my role will be in his Kingdom in Heaven, I have no idea.

I just know that while I’m here on earth, he is revealing more and more of himself to me, I seek him out with my heart every single day...i crave to know more and more about my Spirit Father in Heaven.

None of the elect fail to understand what their purpose is….God implants an inordinate desire to leave all familiar earthly things behind and go to a very different realm in a very different form in order to join their king for their assignment in his kingdom.

I’m one of the elect.,I know my purpose is to come in line with the will of God while I’m on this earth, I’m in his will, the moment my spirit was reborn,then it’s the role of the Holy Spirit, to help me understand what the will of my Father means, he’s also teaching me to be obedient to the will of God.
We are spirit children and learn all matters in the Spirit as we have spirit eyes and ears, as we grow, the Spirit helps us develop them..to see and hear more in our spirit.

For those who will have the “born again” experience, a token is given them to inform their spirit of that change, and grant them not only acceptance, but an inordinate desire to do so. It has to override their natural desire to remain on earth…a place where God purposed that we should live forever. (Gen 3:22-24)
Only upon their death and resurrection, will they have the “born again” experience of being transformed into spirit beings so as to live in the presence of God.

The Born Again experience happens on the earth today, we are being prepared for heaven as we are spirit children..upon our death, the Holy Spirit will take our spirit back to our Father God, we will be with him in spirit...we will also have a glorified body just like Jesus, not sure when I will get my glorified body.

To me, this what being “born again” means…..it doesn’t happen to humans of flesh and blood, but pertains to their complete transformation, “born again” as a new creature.

Thank you...I’ve explained it all above as you can see.

I’m sorry if that fights with what you believe….but that is what the Bible tells me it means to be “born again”.

That is your belief Aunty, why should I fight what you believe, I did at one time, I’ve grown in maturity since then.

In the flesh, sin makes us a pathetic excuse for God’s original perfect creation….but we who do not entertain a heavenly hope, will be made new as well, under the rulership of God’s Kingdom of a thousand years…having sin eradicated, to live forever on earth, as God first intended for us. The Earth will again be restored to God’s original purpose, becoming the paradise of pleasure he always intended for it to be. (Rev 21:2-4)

We will be ruled by God, as it was intended, and have eternal peace and happiness serving our purpose here on this beautiful earth…ruled by a perfect government….God’s will can then “be done on earth as it is in heaven.”

Amen!.,the flesh profits nothing, thank God I’ve been in the Spirit for over 33 yrs...I still go back into that old man at times...the Spirit is who leads us, the more we submit to his leading/teachings the more spiritual we become.

We need to really understand what it means to be in harmony with the Spirit, he’s bringing it to my understanding, we can’t be in the old man and the Spirit at the same time, I believe we can go in and out of the Spirit, if that makes sense.

Always remember that the Spirit is Alive, he can’t be seen.

His Born Again children know that the Spirit is Alive and Active in our hearts/ spirit.,.mind blowing revelation that is...

We walk in faith, knowing that the Spirit Of God is with us no matter where we go, always revealing more of himself to us.

I had to go to the hospital yesterday, lines and lines of cars trying to find a car space...well, he led me straight to a car space..I knew straight away that space was there waiting for me, plus I was running extremely late..Praise God for that!..

 

[Ritajanice]

Continued @Aunty Jane

Overall, the Bible encourages believers to pursue spiritual growth, continually deepening their understanding of God's grace, participating in the expansion of His Kingdom, and actively contributing to the growth and maturity of the Christian community.

Top Bible Verses about Growth​

2 Peter 3:18 - But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.

1 Timothy 4:15 - Practice these things, immerse yourself in them, so that all may see your progress.

Hebrews 5:12-14 - For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. You need milk, not solid food, for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child. But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil.

Hebrews 6:1 - Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,

Romans 5:2-6 - Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us. For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.

Philippians 1:9 - And it is my prayer that your love may abound more and more, with knowledge and all discernment,

Job 8:7 - And though your beginning was small, your latter days will be very great.

2 Corinthians 13:5-7 - Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you fail to meet the test! I hope you will find out that we have not failed the test. But we pray to God that you may not do wrong—not that we may appear to have met the test, but that you may do what is right, though we may seem to have failed.

1 Peter 2:1-3 - So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. Like newborn infants, long for the pure spiritual milk, that by it you may grow up into salvation-- if indeed you have tasted that the Lord is good.

Colossians 2:6-7 - Therefore, as you received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in him, rooted and built up in him and established in the faith, just as you were taught, abounding in thanksgiving.

 

[Heart2Soul]

Let me know what you come up with as i SEE as you SEE that God established certain numbers for specific meanings.

Yesterday i said that 7 is the number of Salvation

This is why -
Genesis - "on the seventh day God rested from all His work"
Exodus - "the seventh day is Holy - anyone who works on it shall be put to death"
Gospel - John 3:16-18 "Whoever believes is not condemned but whoever believes not is condemned already"
GOSPEL - Jesus says, come to ME......I will give you REST"


Here is something else - JESUS is also the number 70 in scripture = let me when you find the scriptures that detail this for us

SHALOM

I am just going to post this link because it is so lengthy. Also, this is off topic and derailing the main topic. Start a new thread if you want to study more. I want to learn it as well

Meaning of the Number 11 in the Bible

How is the number 11 related to the Dukes of Edom? Who were the eleven officials offended at the truth?

www.biblestudy.org

 

[IronMaiden]

Yes, I would say , being Born Again can only come by a Living supernatural divine heart revelation, when Spirit gives birth to spirit.

Good morning, @Ritajanice
When you say “born again,” do you mean saved? Is that what your ”living supernatural divine heart revelation” has revealed to you?

 

[CadyandZoe]

You still have not put the word in the verse that you think it is.
If you are patient I will teach you something about the Greek language.

No Thank you.

 

[CadyandZoe]

I don’t quote or follow man made creeds or councils.

I quoted scripture.

You blatantly denied what the scriptures so plainly teach.

I deny the teaching concerning a supposed "godhead" consisting of three persons. I deny that the son, rather than the Father created the world. The scriptures do not teach these things.

 

[Ritajanice]

I deny the teaching concerning a supposed "godhead" consisting of three persons. I deny that the son, rather than the Father created the world. The scriptures do not teach these things.

When you think about it , the seed of Jesus has always been in the mouth of God ,was it not?

Do you believe Jesus was conceived by Gods seed?

Plus the Holy Spirit is a seed...how many seeds of the Holy Spirit does God send out of his mouth daily and brings new birth to his chosen and predestined children.?

 

[CadyandZoe]

Here is the exact words of Truth

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers.
All things were created through Him and for Him.
And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.

What do the three verses in BOLD declare about JESUS???

Paul did not intend to claim that Jesus is the agent of creation. Your translation claims that Jesus created all things, contradicting John's correctly stated claim that the Father is the agent of creation. John 1:3

The NET Bible translation is closer to what Paul meant to say. Speaking about the preeminence of Jesus, he says

Colossians 1:16 for all things in heaven and on earth were created in him—all things, whether visible or invisible, whether thrones or dominions, whether principalities or powers—all things were created through him and for him.

The Apostle asserts that Jesus is preeminent because the Father created all things "in him," which means that Jesus is set to inherit everything. He explains that creation was made "through him," highlighting Jesus' role as the mediator between God and humanity. Additionally, the creation was made "for him," indicating that he will be the central reason and focus of all creation.

In short, Paul was not identifying the agent of creation; he was identifying the reason, purpose and aim of creation.

What does being the exact "image of the invisible God" mean to you?

Paul declares that Jesus is the "εἰκὼν" [image] of God, indicating that Jesus represents God in a similar way that an image on a coin represents the king who minted it.

Matthew 22:19-21 Show Me the coin used for the poll-tax.” And they brought Him a denarius. And He *said to them, “Whose likeness [εἰκὼν] and inscription is this?” They *said to Him, “Caesar’s.” Then He *said to them, “Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s; and to God the things that are God’s.”

Just as Jesus says that the image on the coin is a likeness of Caesar; Paul declares that Jesus, a human being, is the likeness of God the Father. Jesus is the exact likeness of God in his character, values, motives, and commitments.

 

[Ritajanice]

Paul declares that Jesus is the "εἰκὼν" [image] of God, indicating that Jesus represents God in a similar way that an image on a coin represents the king who minted it.

Would you say that as Jesus grew in Spirit knowledge from his Father, that’s how he represented his Father, as he was in direct communion with his Spirit?.the Fathers Spirit..he never listened to any other only his Spirit Father?..because he was Born from his seed?

 

[CadyandZoe]

When you think about it , the seed of Jesus has always been in the mouth of God ,was it not?

Do you believe Jesus was conceived by Gods seed?

No, not in a literal sense anyway.

Plus the Holy Spirit is a seed...how many seeds of the Holy Spirit does God send out of his mouth daily and brings new birth to his chosen and predestined children.?

Well, I wouldn't put it that way but I know what you mean. :)