Churches are failing as we all know.

[Ronald Nolette]

Dont expect one word of argument on THAT my friend .
Very true that is . YET lets add to that list shall we .
For many trust in scholars and the RCC , in mormon and in interfaith .
GOTTA SAY that wont bode well at all for them .
SO the key is , WE learn and read that bible for ourselves and not through the lens of men .
Oh i am sure some still teach good solid truth , MOST DONT .
and its not a sin or a crime to have read that bible FOR OURSELVES and done so daily .

All true, but we are still commanded to be part of a local assembly of believers and to submit to the authority of the pastor for our maturing.

God doesn't use lone rangers.

 

[amigo de christo]

You are confusing the promises made to faithful Israelites and the church!

Jesus promised the church a place in heaven.

John 14​

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King James Version​

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14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

also Paul taught teh church that to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. That is not a preference but a statement of fact. It also shows that man is more than a body. Paul said when HE is away from his body, he will be present with the Lord.

After the 1000 year kingdom when Jesus physically returns and reigns for 1000 years, then the new Jerusalem comes down from heaven and all lincluding god Himself (the tri-une God head) will live on earth.

faithful who and what . i was rubbing my eyes when i read this . Promises made to faithful who and what .
THE CHURCH IS THE FAITHFUL JEW AND GENTILE TO GOD , TO HIS CHRIST . Anyway you be encouraged now .

 

[amigo de christo]

All true, but we are still commanded to be part of a local assembly of believers and to submit to the authority of the pastor for our maturing.

God doesn't use lone rangers.

A local assembly of believers , NOT wolves in wool . WE come and i did come out from amongst
them wolves in wool . The only one who commands us of what you said are those who twisted the scrips .
Mormons claim to be believers . SO according to YOU i need to just go sit in that place . I AM COMMANDED TOO .
Do you realize how silly this stuff sounds . Be a ice cold day in hell long before i step into any place
WHOSE LEADERS be wolves .
HEY i got a JW church RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD , they claim to beleive . WHAT DO YOU SAY , I AM COMMANDED
to go and have fellowship . OKAY but dont hold ya breath waiting for me to do so. I DONT SIT UNDER WOLVES .
i expose them . Sorry if that makes me seem hateful but i am so wore out with twisted doctrines.
WAIT my goodness i just remembered i have christain scientology nor more than six blocks from where i live
THEY Claim to be believers , HEY according to you i am COMMANED to go and sit under that .
WOA , i just realized i got new age beleivers , they also claim to be believers
According to you i must go and sit under that and have fellowship .
And do i need remind you of all the RCC catholic churches . BUT according to SOLD out christendom
HEY i just better go sit under that and have fellowship cause HEY they claim to be believers too .
WHEN THE HECK does the madness end my friend . WE NEED TO GET NOSE DEEP IN SOME bible
so we can really learn how to rightly divide truth

 

[amigo de christo]

All true, but we are still commanded to be part of a local assembly of believers and to submit to the authority of the pastor for our maturing.

God doesn't use lone rangers.

I have my church . its any and all who truly LOVED CHRIST JESUS . not wolves in wool
who decieve their flocks and are naught but hirelings who DONT care for the sheep .
You must go and learn for yourself what that means . BUT never say i didnt leave ya without an answer .
YE SHALL FIND THIS when you READ BIBLE FOR YOU without the influences of men . AND it aint hard either .
I have wept for souls over the years , i have rebuked many as well
and hated false doctrine and done what i could by grace . But i am NOT GOD , yes sir you heard me right
I am not CHRIST , yes sir you heard me right , THUS i while i can and must speak the truth
I cannot give the increase . and none who wont submit to GOD can even hear the truth let alone discern it .
Only truths will they know and even some of those truths will they have twisted unto their own destruction .
You are not looking at a great man or some scholar
i am but a wee thing , saved and changed by grace and BY his grace PUT RIGHT INTO that lovely book
to learn BY HIM that which i needed to learn . I aints THE ENEMY , THE WOLVES ARE YA ENEMY .
bible time friend . its so lovely to read again and start afresh in them lovely pages for YOU .
Be refreshed in TRUTH , be brought to remembrance again of the orignal pattern . BEWARE of men . TRUST IN GOD .
And understand that no matter how much i love the peoples this surely does not mean they do or will love me .
THE TRUTH is the more i warn , the more i remind , the more i be hated . but
I MUST DO as i must do . I pray for all and desire only good for all for even those who do hate me .

 

[Keiw]

I have spoken with quite a few of your devoted followers of the watch tower .
SO do believe me when i say THEY DO NOT PREACH GODS BIBLE TRUTH . they preach at most only some truths
and use scriptures they do twist unto their own destruction to make desciples of the watch tower , not OF CHRIST .
Do not think within yourself that i have come to condemn you , i have come to speak the words of truth to help you .
IT is not i that condmens you or preaches condemnation to you , ITS the watchtower and its men that you so TRUST in
that preach destruction unto you and those who reject the truth condemn THEMSELVES .
ITS NOT the one who brings truth that condemns , ITS any and all who preach contrary to TRUTH
and reject TRUTH that condemn themselves . AND FRIEND , YES YOU , I DESIRE LIFE FOR YOU not destruction .
KEEP that in mind . i bear no man ILL will and hate , i only desire their good .

I have studied with different religions, i studied the bible, history, Israelite true God worship history and the teachings of Jesus since 1961--Undeniable facts= In every translation on Gods earth the teachings of Jesus back the JW teachers. Israelite true God worship history back the JW teachers. You best relook.

 

[Keiw]

You are confusing the promises made to faithful Israelites and the church!

Jesus promised the church a place in heaven.

John 14​

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King James Version​

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14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

also Paul taught teh church that to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. That is not a preference but a statement of fact. It also shows that man is more than a body. Paul said when HE is away from his body, he will be present with the Lord.

After the 1000 year kingdom when Jesus physically returns and reigns for 1000 years, then the new Jerusalem comes down from heaven and all lincluding god Himself (the tri-une God head) will live on earth.

Jesus promised the little flock a place in heaven, not the great crowd of other sheep who are not of that fold. Paul knew that fact as well. Some of the NT is to the little flock only.
The rest of your post is twisted untruths.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

A local assembly of believers , NOT wolves in wool . WE come and i did come out from amongst
them wolves in wool . The only one who commands us of what you said are those who twisted the scrips .
Mormons claim to be believers . SO according to YOU i need to just go sit in that place . I AM COMMANDED TOO .
Do you realize how silly this stuff sounds . Be a ice cold day in hell long before i step into any place
WHOSE LEADERS be wolves .

Now you are merely blowing up what I said out of proportion. I am sure that there is a faithful congregation of believers near you. No Pastor is perfect, just lik eus. And I do not think we would ever agree with a pastor 100% of the time. that would not make them a wolf.

but we are commanded to not forsake the assembling of our selves together.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I have my church . its any and all who truly LOVED CHRIST JESUS . not wolves in wool
who decieve their flocks and are naught but hirelings who DONT care for the sheep .
You must go and learn for yourself what that means . BUT never say i didnt leave ya without an answer .
YE SHALL FIND THIS when you READ BIBLE FOR YOU without the influences of men . AND it aint hard either .
I have wept for souls over the years , i have rebuked many as well
and hated false doctrine and done what i could by grace . But i am NOT GOD , yes sir you heard me right
I am not CHRIST , yes sir you heard me right , THUS i while i can and must speak the truth
I cannot give the increase . and none who wont submit to GOD can even hear the truth let alone discern it .
Only truths will they know and even some of those truths will they have twisted unto their own destruction .
You are not looking at a great man or some scholar
i am but a wee thing , saved and changed by grace and BY his grace PUT RIGHT INTO that lovely book
to learn BY HIM that which i needed to learn . I aints THE ENEMY , THE WOLVES ARE YA ENEMY .
bible time friend . its so lovely to read again and start afresh in them lovely pages for YOU .
Be refreshed in TRUTH , be brought to remembrance again of the orignal pattern . BEWARE of men . TRUST IN GOD .
And understand that no matter how much i love the peoples this surely does not mean they do or will love me .
THE TRUTH is the more i warn , the more i remind , the more i be hated . but
I MUST DO as i must do . I pray for all and desire only good for all for even those who do hate me .

My brother, I love you. but if you are not assembling yourself in what we call a local congregation under a pastor (not a wolf) you are in defiance of the Lords commands. God does not use lone ranger Christians effectively.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Jesus promised the little flock a place in heaven, not the great crowd of other sheep who are not of that fold. Paul knew that fact as well. Some of the NT is to the little flock only.
The rest of your post is twisted untruths.

That is just Watchtower teaching.

Jesus was speaking directly to the disciples (12) The watchtowewr took the 144,000 Jews of REvelation and forced them to be that little flock.

But remember, the Watchtower says you cannot be born again unless you are of the 144,000, buit Jesus said if you are not born again, you will not even SEE the kingdom of God!

 

[amigo de christo]

Now you are merely blowing up what I said out of proportion. I am sure that there is a faithful congregation of believers near you. No Pastor is perfect, just lik eus. And I do not think we would ever agree with a pastor 100% of the time. that would not make them a wolf.

but we are commanded to not forsake the assembling of our selves together.

Doctrine . this alone is why paul said as he did when he wrote to the churches .
And todays churches have long failed .
They have for decades appointed the wrong stuff to lead them churches and now this generation has become twice
the child of hell itself .
DOCTRINE MATTERS bud . It always did .
Appoint those that are grave , blameless in doctrine and lifestyle .
christendom has been annointing the wrong stuff Long before i was , you were or ya great grandpappy was .
But specially in the generations in the eighties and ninties a tidal wave was already coming in
with well spoken leaders who could DRAW a crowd , entertain a crowd .
Small was its beginning . By the mid to late ninties it was growing . as even women and babes began to lead this people .
BUT we had not seen squat yet . THE seeker friendly would come and the toronto Curse of satan
WHICH MOST ALL THEM FALSE LEADERS brought in and followed .
But that was but just another beginning , Rick warren would appear and write satans purpose driven lie
AND man by the time both rick and his book arrived many churches were leavened up
READY and MAN that book sold like hot cakes in the artic on ten cent night .
YALL GOT NO IDEA what is going on .
But lets continue . Shack books were coming and and PHEW WEE a lot bought satans shack .
Go ahead , by now you must be ready to call me satans spawn . BUT I GOT MUCH MORE
to remind us . SO into the twenty first century we went .
THEN began more leaven . But bud we had not seen Hardly squat ,
So on we went throughout the days which turned into months .
Diversity and inclusivty , satans false love had well began to sneak into churches
and since seeker friendly had well worked , THE JUDGE NOT CORRECT NOT
had leavened up the churches and they were ready FOR THE ANTI CHRIST lie .
INTERFAITH IS OF SATAN . DEAL with it . I WONT STOP warning
And finding common ground IS HOW it will FINISH OFF all who DO SO . I REFUSE
to accept a word of they false unity , false love , false judge not correct not pile of rotted dung .
NOT a word will i heed from them . DO YOU hear me . NOT a word .
Not you , not anyones denomination , NOT the united denomiations of christendom
Can persaude me to even stop FOR A DAY to cease my warnings .
YOU GONNA HAVE TO DECIDE . MAN up . stop trying to tell folks what you think might not offfend . TELL the truth .
ON this path we are on , WHAT should the love god of this world and its churches
DO for or to men like me . WHEN you see me , or my constant focus , my reminders
BE HONEST , i wont melt , where do you believe men like me belong . Are we in the way and need maybe a fun camp
so as we can learn better . What do you think in your heart when you see my continual warnings
and that no matter what you or any other has told me , I have refused to cease . Be honest .

 

[Marvelloustime]

Doctrine . this alone is why paul said as he did when he wrote to the churches .
And todays churches have long failed .
They have for decades appointed the wrong stuff to lead them churches and now this generation has become twice
the child of hell itself .
DOCTRINE MATTERS bud . It always did .
Appoint those that are grave , blameless in doctrine and lifestyle .
christendom has been annointing the wrong stuff Long before i was , you were or ya great grandpappy was .
But specially in the generations in the eighties and ninties a tidal wave was already coming in
with well spoken leaders who could DRAW a crowd , entertain a crowd .
Small was its beginning . By the mid to late ninties it was growing . as even women and babes began to lead this people .
BUT we had not seen squat yet . THE seeker friendly would come and the toronto Curse of satan
WHICH MOST ALL THEM FALSE LEADERS brought in and followed .
But that was but just another beginning , Rick warren would appear and write satans purpose driven lie
AND man by the time both rick and his book arrived many churches were leavened up
READY and MAN that book sold like hot cakes in the artic on ten cent night .
YALL GOT NO IDEA what is going on .
But lets continue . Shack books were coming and and PHEW WEE a lot bought satans shack .
Go ahead , by now you must be ready to call me satans spawn . BUT I GOT MUCH MORE
to remind us . SO into the twenty first century we went .
THEN began more leaven . But bud we had not seen Hardly squat ,
So on we went throughout the days which turned into months .
Diversity and inclusivty , satans false love had well began to sneak into churches
and since seeker friendly had well worked , THE JUDGE NOT CORRECT NOT
had leavened up the churches and they were ready FOR THE ANTI CHRIST lie .
INTERFAITH IS OF SATAN . DEAL with it . I WONT STOP warning
And finding common ground IS HOW it will FINISH OFF all who DO SO . I REFUSE
to accept a word of they false unity , false love , false judge not correct not pile of rotted dung .
NOT a word will i heed from them . DO YOU hear me . NOT a word .
Not you , not anyones denomination , NOT the united denomiations of christendom
Can persaude me to even stop FOR A DAY to cease my warnings .
YOU GONNA HAVE TO DECIDE . MAN up . stop trying to tell folks what you think might not offfend . TELL the truth .
ON this path we are on , WHAT should the love god of this world and its churches
DO for or to men like me . WHEN you see me , or my constant focus , my reminders
BE HONEST , i wont melt , where do you believe men like me belong . Are we in the way and need maybe a fun camp
so as we can learn better . What do you think in your heart when you see my continual warnings
and that no matter what you or any other has told me , I have refused to cease . Be honest .

@amigo de christo

 

[Keiw]

That is just Watchtower teaching.

Jesus was speaking directly to the disciples (12) The watchtowewr took the 144,000 Jews of REvelation and forced them to be that little flock.

But remember, the Watchtower says you cannot be born again unless you are of the 144,000, buit Jesus said if you are not born again, you will not even SEE the kingdom of God!

Did you miss Matthew 23:38 where Jesus cuts the Jewish religion off of being Gods chosen unless they do verse 39-to this day they outright refuse.
Jesus was speaking to the little flock concerning being born again.
Tell us all then why the bible separates the little flock=Numbered from the great crowd that no man can number, yet they are one flock.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

YOU GONNA HAVE TO DECIDE . MAN up . stop trying to tell folks what you think might not offfend . TELL the truth .

OK. If you are not part of a local assembly either as the senior pastor or a member in particular, you are in sin and rebellion against God.

there are many many apirit filled churches out there that aer preaching truth and discipling believers to follow th eLord.

Are they going to agree with you 100% I doubt it, but that is not an excuse to rebel against the doctrine of assembling. If you are not under the authority of a pastor, you have blocked god from maturing you.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Did you miss Matthew 23:38 where Jesus cuts the Jewish religion off of being Gods chosen unless they do verse 39-to this day they outright refuse.
Jesus was speaking to the little flock concerning being born again.
Tell us all then why the bible separates the little flock=Numbered from the great crowd that no man can number, yet they are one flock.

Matthew 23:38-39

King James Version

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38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.


NO, I have taught this verse many6 many times over teh decades.

But you seem to miss that one very important little word "TILL". That means that in the future, the nation will say blessed is he that comes in teh name of the Lord and like Ez. 20:33-37

Ezekiel 20:33-38

King James Version

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33 As I live, saith the Lord God, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:
34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.
35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.
36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord God.
37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:
38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.

Zechariah 13:8-9

King James Version

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8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

Jeremiah 31:33-38

King James Version

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33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:
36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37 Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord.

Romans 11:25-27

King James Version

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25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

This is the Word of God, not the Word of the man made organization the Watchtower.

 

[Stumpmaster]

Churches are failing as we all know. When it comes to Christianity why are churches the last 10 years failing?

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[Keiw]

Matthew 23:38-39​

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King James Version​

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38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.


NO, I have taught this verse many6 many times over teh decades.

But you seem to miss that one very important little word "TILL". That means that in the future, the nation will say blessed is he that comes in teh name of the Lord and like Ez. 20:33-37

Ezekiel 20:33-38​

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King James Version​

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33 As I live, saith the Lord God, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:
34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.
35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.
36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord God.
37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:
38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.

Zechariah 13:8-9​

​

King James Version​

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8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

Jeremiah 31:33-38​

​

King James Version​

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33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:
36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37 Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord.

Romans 11:25-27​

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King James Version​

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25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

This is the Word of God, not the Word of the man made organization the Watchtower.

They better hurry then, this system is almost done. Spiritual Israel will be saved.

 

[Marvelloustime]

Doctrine . this alone is why paul said as he did when he wrote to the churches .
And todays churches have long failed .
They have for decades appointed the wrong stuff to lead them churches and now this generation has become twice
the child of hell itself .
DOCTRINE MATTERS bud . It always did .
Appoint those that are grave , blameless in doctrine and lifestyle .
christendom has been annointing the wrong stuff Long before i was , you were or ya great grandpappy was .
But specially in the generations in the eighties and ninties a tidal wave was already coming in
with well spoken leaders who could DRAW a crowd , entertain a crowd .
Small was its beginning . By the mid to late ninties it was growing . as even women and babes began to lead this people .
BUT we had not seen squat yet . THE seeker friendly would come and the toronto Curse of satan
WHICH MOST ALL THEM FALSE LEADERS brought in and followed .
But that was but just another beginning , Rick warren would appear and write satans purpose driven lie
AND man by the time both rick and his book arrived many churches were leavened up
READY and MAN that book sold like hot cakes in the artic on ten cent night .
YALL GOT NO IDEA what is going on .
But lets continue . Shack books were coming and and PHEW WEE a lot bought satans shack .
Go ahead , by now you must be ready to call me satans spawn . BUT I GOT MUCH MORE
to remind us . SO into the twenty first century we went .
THEN began more leaven . But bud we had not seen Hardly squat ,
So on we went throughout the days which turned into months .
Diversity and inclusivty , satans false love had well began to sneak into churches
and since seeker friendly had well worked , THE JUDGE NOT CORRECT NOT
had leavened up the churches and they were ready FOR THE ANTI CHRIST lie .
INTERFAITH IS OF SATAN . DEAL with it . I WONT STOP warning
And finding common ground IS HOW it will FINISH OFF all who DO SO . I REFUSE
to accept a word of they false unity , false love , false judge not correct not pile of rotted dung .
NOT a word will i heed from them . DO YOU hear me . NOT a word .
Not you , not anyones denomination , NOT the united denomiations of christendom
Can persaude me to even stop FOR A DAY to cease my warnings .
YOU GONNA HAVE TO DECIDE . MAN up . stop trying to tell folks what you think might not offfend . TELL the truth .
ON this path we are on , WHAT should the love god of this world and its churches
DO for or to men like me . WHEN you see me , or my constant focus , my reminders
BE HONEST , i wont melt , where do you believe men like me belong . Are we in the way and need maybe a fun camp
so as we can learn better . What do you think in your heart when you see my continual warnings
and that no matter what you or any other has told me , I have refused to cease . Be honest .

Brother @amigo de christo is spotted.

 

[amigo de christo]

OK. If you are not part of a local assembly either as the senior pastor or a member in particular, you are in sin and rebellion against God.

there are many many apirit filled churches out there that aer preaching truth and discipling believers to follow th eLord.

Are they going to agree with you 100% I doubt it, but that is not an excuse to rebel against the doctrine of assembling. If you are not under the authority of a pastor, you have blocked god from maturing you.

Would you mind listing me some of those well known spirit filled churches you speak about .
Some of us do have fellowship . But i am curious
as to what you think about particular churches . say those who follow the nar leaders , or emergent ,
those trying to bring us back into unity with the CC . What do you think about such churches .
For example what do you say about the prosperity gospel and leaders that teach that .
Do you know of any well known mainstream churches that are okay . i aint talking about the many churches
i mean the more well known ones .

 

[Jack]

We preach Gods bible truth. You are in error thinking anything other. The watchtower explains what the bible teaches with scriptures in the paragraphs backing the truths taught, No different than a sermon explaining what the bible says, just written down. Thus worldwide every JW gets the same spiritual feeding weekly. No other religion on earth can claim that efficiency. Its the only possible way to accomplish-1Cor 1:10--No other religion can.

And you said our Bibles are errors and Satanic! Remember? And your fellow JW Aunty said Jesus and CYB statement of Faith are Satanic!

 

[Jack]

Churches are failing as we all know. When it comes to Christianity why are churches the last 10 years failing?

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There are several factors contributing to the struggles and decline of many churches over the past decade. While each church and community is unique, common themes emerge across regions and denominations. Here are some of the key reasons why churches have been facing challenges recently, particularly in the Western world:​

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1. Cultural Shifts and Secularization​

• Secularism: Many societies have become more secular, and there is often a cultural emphasis on individualism and self-reliance. For some, Christianity is viewed as outdated or irrelevant, making it challenging for churches to attract and retain members.
• Distrust of Institutions: Trust in institutions, including the church, has declined, especially among younger generations. Scandals, hypocrisy, or financial mismanagement in some high-profile churches have further damaged public trust.
• Moral Relativism: With increasing emphasis on moral relativism and "live your truth" mentalities, traditional Christian teachings on absolute truth, morality, and sin are often in direct contrast to cultural norms, making them less appealing to broader audiences.

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2. Generational Differences and Youth Disengagement​

• Failure to Engage Younger Generations: Many churches struggle to connect with Millennials and Generation Z. Some of these younger members feel the church hasn’t addressed their questions, social concerns, or interests.
• Relevance: Younger generations often seek authenticity and transparency, and if church services or teachings don’t resonate or feel relevant, they may drift away in search of community or purpose elsewhere.
• Rigid Traditions: Churches that are unwilling to adapt traditions or methods (without compromising core beliefs) can feel unapproachable or irrelevant to those unfamiliar with church culture or rituals.

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3. Internal Division and Lack of Unity​

• Political and Social Divisions: Political polarization has crept into many churches, creating divides over social and moral issues. When churches emphasize political agendas or specific viewpoints, it can lead to disunity and even alienation within congregations.
• Doctrinal Disagreements: Conflicts over doctrinal interpretations or social issues have split congregations and even denominations. This can weaken the church’s influence and credibility.
• Loss of Focus on Core Mission: When churches focus more on external controversies than on discipleship, worship, and community, it can cause members to feel disconnected from the primary mission of the church.

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4. Shifts in Attendance Patterns and Commitment​

• Less Regular Attendance: Many people now attend church sporadically rather than every week. This shift in attendance patterns has impacted community cohesion and financial stability.
• Competing Priorities: With busy schedules, family commitments, sports, and other activities, regular church attendance can take a back seat. Additionally, some people find spiritual fulfillment through other means, like online sermons, podcasts, or self-guided studies.
• Online Options and “Church Shopping”: The accessibility of online worship, particularly post-pandemic, has led some to engage less in traditional church settings. Others may “church shop,” moving from one church to another without forming long-term commitments.

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5. Failure to Address Relevant Issues and Provide Practical Guidance​

• Avoidance of Tough Topics: Some churches may avoid addressing pressing social issues, personal struggles, or complex questions about faith. This can lead to members feeling that the church isn’t meeting their real-life needs.
• Lack of Practical Application: Churches that focus solely on doctrine without teaching its practical application may struggle to engage members, who seek guidance for day-to-day life challenges and spiritual growth.
• Outdated Approaches: If preaching styles, outreach methods, or service structures haven’t adapted to contemporary needs and communication styles, some people may find them irrelevant or unappealing.

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6. Leadership Failures and Scandals​

• High-Profile Scandals: Unfortunately, instances of moral failure, financial misconduct, and abuse within churches have deeply affected public perception. These failures cause disillusionment, and hurt, and damage trust.
• Lack of Relatable Leadership: In some cases, church leadership can appear out of touch with the realities of congregants’ lives, failing to provide relatable or empathetic guidance.
• Poor Discipleship and Leadership Training: Churches that don’t invest in developing strong, servant-hearted leaders and disciples often struggle to maintain growth and spiritual depth within their communities.

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7. Consumer Mentality and Shallow Engagement​

• Consumerism: Many approach church with a consumer mindset, expecting it to meet their preferences rather than approaching it with a commitment to serve and grow. If expectations aren’t met, they may leave or look for another church.
• Shallow Engagement: In some cases, churches focus on entertainment or surface-level experiences rather than deep spiritual growth. This can attract people initially but often fails to create lasting commitment and spiritual maturity.
• Overemphasis on Attractional Models: When churches focus heavily on programs and entertainment, they may draw crowds but struggle to build a strong, committed community of believers focused on discipleship.

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Moving Forward: What Can Churches Do?​

To address these challenges and remain effective in their mission, churches can:​

1. Reconnect with the Core Message: Churches that focus on the core message of the Gospel—God’s love, grace, and truth—can cut through cultural noise and offer something unique, transcendent, and transformational.
2. Prioritize Authentic Community and Discipleship: Building a strong community and offering genuine discipleship can meet the spiritual hunger that people still feel but may not find in other social groups or online.
3. Engage with Younger Generations: Listening to younger generations, addressing their questions, and involving them in meaningful ways within the church can create a lasting impact and inspire long-term commitment.
4. Model Integrity and Transparency: Churches that demonstrate honesty, humility, and openness can rebuild trust and credibility. When leaders acknowledge mistakes and approach ministry with a servant’s heart, it resonates with people’s desire for authenticity.
5. Equip Members for Real-Life Application: By providing practical, applicable guidance, churches can help believers navigate the complexities of modern life with a faith that is relevant and grounded in biblical truth.
6. Embrace Flexibility Without Compromising Doctrine: While it’s important to adapt to changing times, churches can do so without compromising their beliefs. Finding creative ways to worship, connect, and serve can allow the church to meet people where they are.
7. Cultivate Spiritual Depth: By emphasizing a relationship with Christ over ritual and personal transformation over entertainment, churches can create a spiritually fulfilling experience that draws people back to their faith and each other.

Though churches face many challenges, these can also be opportunities for renewal and growth. Addressing these issues with grace, courage, and adaptability can help churches thrive and continue to make a positive impact. These are opinion based on my life long experience with God. Your views may vary, please share what you think.​

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People sit in churches and listen to a preacher, but are too lazy to STUDY the Bible at home. Satan loves that! They don't even know this is in the Bible!

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness,