What Is "Predestination"? How Does It Shape Your Daily Life?

[Eternally Grateful]

LOL I don't want to get into it. I was merely explaining the bottom line difference between Synergist and Monergist.

Well I am neither.

so lets discuss the word. not some group we determine some people to be under..

 

[GracePeace]

I know with some people it really does seem to be a matter of semantics ..It's just where the emphasis lies.. in the semantics sometimes I rather think we can both be right at the same time, as the heart seems right with some..

But then there's the other's.... sigh.

Christianity is difficult to understand! LOL!

Remember when Christ returns there is the fearful lazy servant--and Christ doesn't even correct him about his erroneous view (instead, He says, "You KNEW that I was an austere man..."), rather, the problem Christ has with him is that he wasn't consistent with his erroneous view ("...Why didn't you take the talent and bring it to the bankers, so I could at least receive what was mine with interest!?").

Same as Peter--he wrongly thought he had to keep the dietary law, and that only Jews could be saved, but at least he lived consistently with that view, and, later, God corrected him.

 

[GracePeace]

Well I am neither.

so lets discuss the word. not some group we determine some people to be under..

Which, again, was why I said "type".
Anyway, we've discussed.
If you had anything else you wanted to discuss (on the topic of the thread) go ahead.

 

[GracePeace]

It's the difference between making sure you reach the door, so that you have the opportunity to go through it, compared to just setting you down on the other side, nothing to do with you.

Much love!

So, are there people who are predestined, making sure they reach the door, so that they have the opportunity to go through it, who DO NOT use that opportunity to go through the door?

 

[marks]

So, are there people who are predestined, making sure they reach the door, so that they have the opportunity to go through it, who DO NOT use that opportunity to go through the door

If you'd like to discuss a passage of Scripture, go ahead and post it, and we'll look at it together.

Much love!

 

[GracePeace]

If you'd like to discuss a passage of Scripture, go ahead and post it, and we'll look at it together.

Much love!

Funny you didn't ask me to quote the Scripture when you gave the answer you gave before. What changed? We're already discussing it (Ro 8), and I'm asking how you work these things out.

 

[marks]

Funny you didn't ask me to quote the Scripture when you gave the answer you gave before. What changed? We're already discussing it (Ro 8), and I'm asking how you work these things out.

Like I said, if you want to discuss a particular passage, I'm into that, but I don't see fruitfulness just going on as we were.

Much love!

 

[GracePeace]

Like I said, if you want to discuss a particular passage, I'm into that, but I don't see fruitfulness just going on as we were.

Much love!

We both know which Scripture I'm talking about.

You already addressed it lol. Now you're acting like no one has a clue which passage I'm talking about.

If it helps you to have it posted, you're welcome to post it. I don't need it posted.

 

[marks]

We both know which Scripture I'm talking about. If it helps you to have it posted, you're welcome to post it. I don't need it posted.

I'm talking in general, not about a particular post or topic.

I'm done with the discussions we've been having. Now, if you want to discuss something, make it about a passage of Scripture. Whatever it may be.

Much love!

 

[GracePeace]

I'm talking in general, not about a particular post or topic.

I'm done with the discussions we've been having. Now, if you want to discuss something, make it about a passage of Scripture. Whatever it may be.

Much love!

You already addressed it lol. Now you're acting like no one has a clue which passage I'm talking about.

You're welcome to post the Scripture you know I'm asking about.

If that's asking too much, you're free to bow out.

 

[marks]

You already addressed it lol. Now you're acting like no one has a clue which passage I'm talking about.

You're welcome to post the Scripture you know I'm asking about.

If that's asking too much, you're free to bow out.

I'm talking in general, not about a particular post or topic.

I'm done with the discussions we've been having. Now, if you want to discuss something, make it about a passage of Scripture. Whatever it may be.

Much love!

 

[GracePeace]

@marks All right, you demanded the Scripture you already know I'm talking about, and which you've already answered, be posted, yet you, the one demanding it be posted, did not care to post it, and you are upset that the Scripture that you know I'm talking about, and which you refuse to post, is not posted, so now you don't want to talk.

Sounds logical. Lol

Put it there if you want it there! Lol

 

[marks]

@marks All right, you demanded the Scripture you already know I'm talking about, and which you've already answered, be posted, yet you, the one demanding it be posted, did not care to post it, and you are upset that the Scripture that you know I'm talking about, and which you refuse to post, is not posted, so now you don't want to talk.

Sounds logical. Lol

Put it there if you want it there! Lol

I don't think you are understanding me. You keep chasing me for responses, I've given the responses I plan to. You are imagining I'm all upset about something, I'm saying, it's not working, that's all. No benefit. We are just talking past each other, or some such.

Now . . . going forward . . . if there is some particular passage of Scripture . . . whichever it may be . . . post it, make your comment or question. Not just this same round and round on predestination, or Israel/church, or whatever other topics we've been including.

Much love!

 

[GracePeace]

I don't think you are understanding me. You keep chasing me for responses, I've given the responses I plan to.

Now . . . going forward . . . if there is some particular passage of Scripture . . . whichever it may be . . . post it, make your comment or question. Not just this same round and round on predestination, or Israel/church, or whatever other topics we've been including.

Much love!

That was tangential to the topic. If you want a thread on Israel/Church, where you can address whatever angles on it you want, then start a thread on it. Lol

This thread is on "predestined", and I want to discuss that, and I am following up on a reply you made.

 

[marks]

@marks If you want to discuss

That was tangential to the topic. If you want a thread on Israel/Church, where you can address whatever angles on it you want, then start a thread on it. Lol

This thread is on "predestined", and I want to discuss that, and I am following up on a reply you made.

You are not hearing me.

Much love!

 

[GracePeace]

You are not hearing me.

Much love!

Sounds good.

 

[Bob Estey]

David said that God knew him before his was in hos mothers womb.

Is God limited to time and space?

Can you know me before I exist?

 

[Bob Estey]

That says we are predestined (not just once but a few times

I'd like to see the verses.

 

[Bob Estey]

That would be a Calvinistic or fatalistic view. But it is not the scriptural view..

Isn't that what "predestined" means?

 

[Bob Estey]

Have you sinned?

Yes, but why would God torture me forever because of a sin? Is that an eye for an eye?